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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 33931 times:

Today's news about SMC winning the NAIA Expressway contract connecting the airport with the Skyway at SLEX and linking all the terminals to have fast access to ongoing foreshore developments seems like a good start for a new thread on the local aviation scene.....

http://business.inquirer.net/116873/...-expressway-project-with-p11-b-bid

Quote:
"Conglomerate San Miguel Corp. (SMC) has bested rival Metro Pacific Investments Corp. over a new 7.15-kilometer expressway project that will connect Metro Manila’s main airport terminals to the Entertainment City casino complex with an 'aggressive' bid.

The financial proposals for the P15.52-billion Naia Expressway Phase II project, the third public private partnership (PPP) project to be successfully bid out, were opened yesterday at the headquarters of the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH).

SMC unit Optimal Infrastructure Development Inc. offered an upfront cash of P11 billion, far superior to the P305 million offered by Metro Pacific’s Manila North Tollways Corp., to build the expressway and operate it for 30 years."



The project's scope was summarized as follows in an earlier report.....

http://business.inquirer.net/116829/...ssway-contractor-known-monday-dpwh

Quote:
"The proposed 7.15-kilometer elevated expressway will connect Naia Terminals 1, 2 and 3.

The DPWH said the project 'will supplement the recently completed Phase 1 which interfaces with the Manila South Skyway at Sales Interchange.

The project involves the design, construction, operation and maintenance of an elevated structure from the terminus of Phase 1 at Sales Interchange going to Andrews Avenue, Domestic Airport Road, MIA Road and ending at Diosdado Macapagal Boulevard,' it said.

The project includes the 'construction of a 2.2-kilometer road going to Entertainment City' on the reclaimed land facing Manila Bay.

The government will finance the project’s right-of-way acquisition costs amounting to P2.25 billion."



The following link to an opinion column is provided for balance and a wider perspective.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/201.../keep-naia-forget-fast-train-clark

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...terminal-3-gets-funding-boost.html

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http://rvp-architects.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/COM040-naia3.jpg

The rendering above shows possible new international terminal site across T3 and adjacent to T2 (at Nayong Pilipino) for future capacity, after GA facilities are cleared. The woods in the top right corner are actually built-up residential/commercial areas which might form part of future airfield expansion. However, a cursory review of the existing airport layout suggests a potential parallel runway will fall below minimum requirements, even when coupled with dependent precision instrument approaches.

All these, of course, are purely theoretical and based on the scenario in the link above that NAIA shall be the premier gateway which, while still workable with a single runway, must meet the long term demand for dramatically increased aircraft movements. Further, it holds the view that the $10B estimated for the fast-train link to Clark would be better allocated to the expropriation of properties around NAIA (a virtual Pandora's box of unending suits and litigation) and towards the construction of a new terminal.

Which in turn would allow T2 to revert to its intended domestic role, and pave the way for the conversion of T1 into an LCC terminal.

The beginning of the elevated tollway is halfway down the image on the left. Okay for passengers arriving at T1, T2 and T3 and going to the Resorts World area...but a rather circuitous route for T3 arrivals to first drive south to NAIA Ave, go west, then north again on DM Blvd when trying to get to, say, Entertainment City (map).

http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=14...tbutton_normal&gw=30&lyt=large_map

With this contract, the authorities seem to have conceded that mass transit is best suited for residents and workers around the airport area...and might at most, put up one light rail station just outside the CAA compound across their depot, to restrict access to operations areas by airport personnel only - thus enhancing security.

Too bad no updated NAIA Master Development Plan is publicly available for comparison.

Comments and other Philippine aviation developments welcome.


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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks ago) and read 33879 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Thread starter):

How long will this take? I hope it's shorter than this project...

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/390403/...years-and-six-presidents-to-finish



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 33668 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 1):

How long will this take?

A minimum of three years, per the second link.....

Quote:
"Project construction, scheduled to start this year, will take at least 36 months, according to the DPWH."



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 33607 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 2):
will take at least 36 months, according to the DPWH."

I'm glad it's months instead of years.

Speaking of airports, it seems like construction has stopped on SLIA (Bicol International).
Maybe it'll take 36 years to complete when Ferdinand III is the president...you know trapos rule the Philippines.  



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User currently offlineairlineaddict From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 33370 times:
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Thanks Devilfish for starting the thread and providing the articles.

Here's the order of priorities from my perspective if NAIA is to remain the premier gateway:
1. Get T3 fully functional ASAP
2. Ensure all of the navigational equipment is state of the art to maximize runway usage
3. Make way for a new terminal in Nayong Pilipino

1 and 2 seem relatively easy, but I'm always astounded with the inertia/road bumps.


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 33283 times:

Whatever they do, it cannot happen soon enough. I just spent several days this past week dealing w/ this airport and when you think it could not get worse, it truly does. It took 2 1/2 hours to clear Immigration at T1 when I arrived with lines backed into the terminal exits. Never seen anything like this in my life. Taxi lines with zero organization. The best thing though, is the nightmare 2 lane road leading into T1 that is a complete bottleneck. From the last traffic light to the terminal, it took more than a 1/2 hour to travel less than a mile. Upon arrival, there are 500-1000 people that are standing outside T1, blocking passengers from entering the terminal. I observed all of these same problems, over several days. What are all these people standing outside doing? There is zero crowd control and total disorganization. Then once inside, be prepared to stand in crazy check-in lines, unless you are flying C/F class. The Philippine government after all these years, really needs to get their head out of their arse and fix this airport once and for all. They should also do something with the wasted land where a massive airport hotel has sat derelict for so many years. I don't even know when it closed. No excuses and enough is enough already!

User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 33072 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):
What are all these people standing outside doing?

If this is departures, these are wellwishers waiting for their families' flights to leave, as they don't leave until the plane takes off. It also helps in situations like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWaUi1DpJQA (in Filipino)

Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):
Then once inside, be prepared to stand in crazy check-in lines, unless you are flying C/F class.

Weird. I just flew out yesterday and the crowds seem fine, but I will admit this was 6:00 pm.

Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):
They should also do something with the wasted land where a massive airport hotel has sat derelict for so many years. I don't even know when it closed.

The Panlilios (owners of Grand Air) owned the Philippine Village Hotel, which closed during the Asian financial crisis due to bankruptcy, and was later sequestered by the government. A very long legal battle ensued over the property, which was only recently (2009, I believe) decided in favor of the government, allowing it to take over the property from the Panlilios. But even until now, the property's still mired in controversy.

http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/publications/benchmark/2009/02/020911.php

http://www.mb.com.ph/article.php?aid=7847&sid=1&subid=3#.UXDX0MrzqdE

Should this come to pass, the Nayong Pilipino area will definitely be turned into an extension of Terminal 2.


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 33051 times:

Anyway, some good news about the EU blacklist! 

http://www.interaksyon.com/business/...-a-very-positive-curve----eu-envoy


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 32711 times:

Yes, there seems to be plenty of activity going on if these blogs are any indication.....


http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...-bags-3000-seats-to-australia.html

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...cebu-pacific-to-fly-melbourne.html

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...grades-8-domestic-airport-for.html

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...ring-airlines-comes-to-manila.html

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...4/china-eastern-to-fly-manila.html


Good that 5J was allotted 3,000 weekly seats to Australia...that could easily be covered by their high-density, single-class HGW A330s due for delivery...this will surely intensify competition down-under. However, most intriguing is the mention of beyond rights from Oz to NZ.

Also interesting are Spring and China Eastern's coming over...both will certainly boost commerce and tourism...but China Eastern's current inability to get a slot highlights the acute saturation problem besetting NAIA. This is bound to get worse once new aircraft ordered by PR and 5J start arriving.

The CAAP and MIAA better start working on the airport's precision navs modernization to maximize aircraft movements while minimizing turnaround times - with its single runway. Also, there is not much time to wait for an international pax terminal capacity boost, aircraft parking apron expansion and new airline ops and hangar construction.

The above could only be expedited if the Government would prioritize and fund these projects.



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 32574 times:

Manila really needs a new airport, not a new or expanded terminal. The current airport with only one runway for large aircraft is not working with the increased traffic. The cross runway can accomodate some traffic but still very limited.

Instead of spending money on this project, revive the idea of a new airport in Bulacan that was proposed recently by San Miguel Co.

The777Man



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 32317 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):

Instead of spending money on this project, revive the idea of a new airport in Bulacan that was proposed recently by San Miguel Co.

The proponent has backpedaled on that...which, in any case, doesn't seem to have much favor among the three options tabled.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/201...mulls-3-options-phl-airport-system

Quote:
"Abaya said the first option involves a single airport system wherein the government would shut down and sell the NAIA and develop the Clark International Airport in Pampanga.

The second option, he said, involves a twin or dual system wherein the government would develop Clark and at the same time maximize the operations of NAIA until 2025 but at the same time look for an alternative site for a new airport that would be 25 kilometers or 30 minutes away from the existing gateway.

The DOTC chief said the third option also involves a twin or dual system wherein the government would jointly develop Clark and NAIA and then decide whether or not to put up an alternative airport.

'Previously, the direction was to move all NAIA’s current operations to Clark International Airport within the next five to seven years. What is clear now is that we need Clark to absorb some of the traffic in NAIA. Even if initially, it seems more cost efficient to have a single main gateway, there are dual airport systems existing around the world that actually perform well commercially,' he said in his speech.

He said the agency is looking at ways to further increase the capacity of the old NAIA airport to 60 events or landings and take offs per hour from the average 40 events per hour.

He added that there is no available land to further extend the runway of NAIA or put up a new terminal as it is surrounded by subdivisions and commercial areas.

Abaya pointed out that Cabinet secretaries are leaning towards the second option jointly developing NAIA and Clark and at the same time looking for a site for a new international gateway that may involve the reclamation of Laguna de Bay or Manila Bay as well as the Sangley airport in Cavite."




Meanwhile, PAL just announced the restart of its services to KSA and the end of its codeshares to the GCC states...

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...ines-in-major-route-expansion.html

http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=mnl-dmm/jed/ruh/auh/doh/dxb&MS=wls&MR=540&MX=720x360&PM=*
http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=mnl-dmm/j.../dxb&MS=wls&MR=540&MX=720x360&PM=*

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...-approval-for-mideast-flights.html

Quote:
"Philippine Airlines officially launched Friday new destinations to the Middle East as it re-opens route network to Dammam, Jeddah, and Riyadh all in Saudi Arabia on December 1 using a fleet of new generation A330-300.

PAL will soon be ending its code-share flights to the Gulf on the next winter schedule by introducing flights to Doha, Qatar and Dubai, UAE on November 1."


[Edited 2013-04-26 09:38:01]


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User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32211 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 6):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):
What are all these people standing outside doing?

If this is departures, these are wellwishers waiting for their families' flights to leave, as they don't leave until the plane takes off. It also helps in situations like this:

Akiestar...Most appear to have luggage and documents and are not wellwishers. The drop off area as you know, is totally inadequate. It was designed for a Pan Am 707, a CX CV-880, a BOAC VC-10 and a Philippine DC-8 departing at different times of the day and not a Qatar 77W, EK 77W, Etihad 77W, Kuwait A340, SV 744 and misc Jumbos all either arriving or departing at the same time. That is part of the problem at this airport. If they want to ease some of the congestion, start telling these airlines that they can no longer all arrive and depart w/ one another! In the Middle East, no of these destination airports are under any traffic restrictions, aside from DXB.


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 32205 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 6):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):
Then once inside, be prepared to stand in crazy check-in lines, unless you are flying C/F class.

Weird. I just flew out yesterday and the crowds seem fine, but I will admit this was 6:00 pm.

Well, you were lucky. Seems every time I am at Terminal One, it is a zoo.

Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):
They should also do something with the wasted land where a massive airport hotel has sat derelict for so many years. I don't even know when it closed.

The Panlilios (owners of Grand Air) owned the Philippine Village Hotel, which closed during the Asian financial crisis due to bankruptcy, and was later sequestered by the government. A very long legal battle ensued over the property, which was only recently (2009, I believe) decided in favor of the government, allowing it to take over the property from the Panlilios. But even until now, the property's still mired in controversy.

http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/publications/benchmark/2009/02/020911.php

http://www.mb.com.ph/article.php?aid=7847&sid=1&subid=3#.UXDX0MrzqdE

Should this come to pass, the Nayong Pilipino area will definitely be turned into an extension of Terminal 2.

Very interesting reading. Unfortunately, the second link would not open for me. I realize you are trying to defend your "home turf" and the U.S. has our own crappy airports, but when you have no choice but to use this airport, it is not a pleasant experience. Pinoy or not, you have to admit that massive derelict hotel sitting on prime airport property, is a bit ridiculous. If the rightful parties maintained possession in 2009, it has now been four years and nothing has happened. Maybe part of my frustration is the great photo ops, one could have from those east facing balconies  

Manila is a booming city. There are construction cranes everywhere building many high rise apartments, condos, offices etc. along with fancy water front casinos. OK, i realize this maybe private money, but at that same time, there is practically zero activity in the way of improving this airport. When was the last time the windows were cleaned in Terminal One? Heck, hire some minimum wage folks (there are plenty looking for a job) and have then clean windows! I see the same stains on windows there year after year. How much could that cost?

Personally, I don't think the government has a clue what to do w/ this airport. The last time they hired somebody, was FraPort. I don't think we need to talk about that fiasco! I get the feeling they have thrown their hands up and have no rudder on this ocean liner. The airport is land locked by buildings and shanty towns and cannot be expanded. It has bisecting runways that have poor flow control and the main runway gets bogged down with ATR's, Dash 8's and Q400's that further impede on large a/c. NAIA is not going to give up the revenues to Clark. An entirely new airport needs to be built, like every other Asian city has done, but I just do not see it happening. In other words, it is only going to get worse, so I guess I better get use to it.


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 32093 times:

Any one who knows why Abu Dhabi still isn't bookable on PAL's website,even though I'm able to book it via different web travel agencies?

Quoting crownvic (Reply 11):
If they want to ease some of the congestion, start telling these airlines that they can no longer all arrive and depart w/ one another!

Good point, but there's a reaosn why. EK/EY/QR all want their MNL-flights to fit into their two-three departure/arrival banks at their respective hubs.

/Alex



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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 31974 times:

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 13):
Any one who knows why Abu Dhabi still isn't bookable on PAL's website,even though I'm able to book it via different web travel agencies?

I guess it´s because PR´s own flights are not yet listed in the CRS.
Those flights with PR flight numbers are still the codeshares on EY metal ...



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 31944 times:

Keep 'em coming...    ...

http://paineairport.com/images/kpae9328.jpg
http://paineairport.com/images/kpae9328.jpg



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 31749 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 10):
The proponent has backpedaled on that...which, in any case, doesn't seem to have much favor among the three options tabled.....

Thanks for the update.

Clark seems really far away.....

At least they are looking at alternatives.

Thanks again!

The777Man



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 31519 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 16):
Thanks for the update.

You're welcome. Here's another (non) update.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2013/05/new-york.html

Quote:
New York?

"Philippine Airlines President and Chief Operating Officer Ramon Ang said the airline has filed with US DOT regulatory approvals to fly New York and Chicago to Manila using Boeing 777-300ER beginning on the next winter schedule. Ang said the next American destination after Toronto is New York. PAL will receive two new triple seven this year."


It wasn't stated how the flights would be routed. PR seems quite upbeat..    ..even in the face of this.....

http://business.inquirer.net/119741/route-of-the-problem

Quote:
"PAL nevertheless must contend with other problems such as the refusal of the governments of South Korea and Japan to grant PAL additional flights, which PAL felt to be rather underserved, as airline ticket prices have been flying through the roof because of big demand with short supply.

Reason for their refusal has always been our CAT-II problem, courtesy of the US Federal Aviation Authority, or the FAA, which a few years ago downgraded its rating of the Philippines for airport safety to Category II. As a result, PAL could not add new routes to the United States or even replace its existing aircraft serving the US routes with new ones.

From what I heard, our salvation from the damning CAT-II has been a moving target for the Aquino (Part II) administration, as the FAA insisted on some measures that would perhaps take more than a lifetime for us to meet. For instance, the FAA insisted that the government should not rely on PAL experts for pilot training, meaning, the government should train its own instructors, which would only take years and years of flying experience, and where would you get that except from PAL?

Hmmm, maybe there is something more in the CAT-II problem than just the airport 'safety.' After all, US airlines are also having a grand time flying here, serving those 10 plus million OFWs."


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http://www.commlawblog.com/uploads/image/FAA%20thinking-1.jpg


Are they saying PAL trained pilots are less-qualified...or there's a conflict of interests so they're "suggesting" a different trainer...who might that be? Wonder what else lies strewn on the path to Cat I ...perhaps RSA has reasons to be optimistic?   

[Edited 2013-05-02 11:15:00]


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24847 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 31484 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 17):
Are they saying PAL trained pilots are less-qualified...or there's a conflict of interests so they're "suggesting" a different trainer...who might that be?

Its a bit of a conflict when the one who plays the role of the regulator is also employed by a local airline they have oversight over.

For instance in the US, Europe and other nations, such flight standards employees are full time employees of the government regulatory agency, and have no links to the airlines they supervise. Same goes with maintenance inspectors and other oversight positions.
While in practice some of these folks might be former airline employees themselves, they are bared from providing oversight of their former employer or colleagues.

At the end of the day, the independence and strength of regulator body is quite important to ensure safety and proper oversight.



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User currently offlineLurveBus From Philippines, joined Mar 2007, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 31340 times:

There's a rumor going around that the four A343 that PAL is gonna acquire are coming from Iberia.

I know that Iberia is replacing their A343s, however, can they afford to retire 4 within the next few months?


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1142 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 31205 times:

Cebu Pacific's first A330. The photo is from May the 1st and I can't find any other images of it on this site yet, so I assume this is news. Unfortunately I don't know who the photographer is so can't credit the image to them.  http://24.media.tumblr.com/d4ebb39475bc2ef3ff91de630b4e25cd/tumblr_mm4l82MsuD1s7b3gjo1_1280.jpg


Someone repaint ZK-PBG!
User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 31166 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):
Its a bit of a conflict when the one who plays the role of the regulator is also employed by a local airline they have oversight over.

Point taken, but the question remains..."Are the pilots PAL graduate any less proficient compared to their foreign counterparts?

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):
While in practice some of these folks might be former airline employees themselves, they are bared from providing oversight of their former employer or colleagues.

So, former PAL hands don't necessarily have to stay out of the regulatory regime...they merely have to be inhibited from exercising oversight functions on their erstwhile employer and colleagues.

Quoting zkojq (Reply 20):
Cebu Pacific's first A330.

   Looking good! I'm guessing it will get deployed to the ME first...and hopefully, to Oz and Kiwiland too.  



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24847 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 31151 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 21):
Point taken, but the question remains..."Are the pilots PAL graduate any less proficient compared to their foreign counterparts?

Hard to say.

With a weak regulatory regime who knows if people are really proficient, and were not simply passed or promoted based on various other motivations. It probably hard to gauge peoples qualifications, when there might be doubt about the paper trail that follows them.

For example, I know have a Filipino pilot friend who works for EVA. He has told me stories of people virtually buying their pilot licences from inspectors, with student log book being filed up with fake flights, or doctors that could be paid off to sign medical certificates, etc. And that is only the pilot licensing end of stuff. There was a host of other stories about maintenance, gray market parts etc..


So whatever the stories, I think it imperative Philippine government once and for all establishes a strong and trustworthy oversight regime - for benefit of all parties, especially the safety of its own citizens.



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User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 31133 times:

According to this post, SEAIR Philippines plans to launch a direct service from Manila to Phuket, Thailand by the end of the year....

http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...ippines-looks-at-expansion-in.html

Think link offers a handy timeline of the big route launches coming up for Philippine Airlines. The article also suggests that Turkey could be the first European destination once the ban is lifted....

http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...ing-flight-path-of-philippine.html


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 31124 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 21):
I'm guessing it will get deployed to the ME first...and hopefully, to Oz and Kiwiland too.

It's flying to ICN first, actually.   


User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 31211 times:

Here is another good article with plenty of information on route deployment and what the future holds for Cebu Pacific's first A330 and the remaining 7 to be delivered... http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...limpse-of-cebu-pacifics-brand.html

User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 31003 times:

IATA has finally weighed in and reported that they would prefer a single airport system for Manila, Philippines rather than a dual airport system.

"The International Air Transport Association (IATA) prefers Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) as the main gateway for Manila with alternative airport to be establish within the metropolis. It recently submitted its position to the government relative to the creation of multi-airport system espoused by the Department of Transport and Communications (DOTC). Malacañang is carefully evaluating the three options before it reaches a decision on whether Manila would adopt a single or twin airport system."

The Philippine government must evaluate which of three options are best for the long term development of airport infrastructure for the country's main gateway. What do you think is the best option?

More Info and complete list of options, click Here:
http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...urs-single-airport-system-for.html


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 27, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 31196 times:

I guess the second option sounds best but don't as long as 2025. Have a plan in place by 2020 for a new airport closer to the city. Second option sort sounds like a way of saying we'll see what happens.

The777Man



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 28, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 31170 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 26):
What do you think is the best option?

The best option is that which would serve the country's interests the most.....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vUtWpp9U6YI/UYeVnhB4gXI/AAAAAAAAAYY/jJCmrN-7Tnw/s1600/200806220319577088.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vUtWpp9U6Y...-7Tnw/s1600/200806220319577088.jpg

http://www.philstar.com/business/201...a-pushes-single-airport-system-phl

Quote:
"Abaya said the first option involves a single airport system wherein the government would shut down and sell the congested NAIA and develop the Clark International Airport in Pampanga.

The second option, he revealed, involves dual system wherein the government would develop Clark and at the same time maximize the operations of NAIA until 2025 while looking for an alternative site for a new airport that would be 25 kilometers or 30 minutes away from the existing gateway.

The DOTC chief said the third option also involves dual system wherein the government would jointly develop Clark and NAIA and then decide whether or not to put up an alternative airport."



That strongly argues for the third option which brings the most immediate and tangible results for the least outlay. They could maximize the operations at NAIA while not adding to airspace congestion by having another busy one so close by ...there would be an adequate diversion airport suitably located to handle emergencies or absorb overflow flights in case of downtime in the other.

This option also brings the benefits of a gateway nearer to the broader population base in central/western/northern Luzon ...at the same time keeping the premier airport for the national capital region and southern/eastern provinces ...in contrast to IATA's preference for a single Manila airport.

Option 1 leaves no wiggle room, Option 2 seems a tentative solution, and Option 3 is open ended.



[Edited 2013-05-06 11:50:11]


"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Garfield
User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 29, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 31035 times:

No corroboration yet, but the best news for Philippine aviation in quite a long while could be forthcoming.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...05/faa-confirms-icao-findings.html

Quote:
"The Federal Administration Administration (FAA) has completed its reassessment of the country's aviation standards scheduled on May 2 and 3, 2013. But the US regulator has not made itself available for comment regarding the Agency's visit to the country last week.

'They have accepted our position and we have accepted their position at the same time, so we have meeting of minds,' says Deputy Director General John C. Andrews yesterday.

Andrews told that FAA inspectors are not the ones who decide the category rating but merely inspect compliance to aviation standards which then make recommendations to John Barbagallo, FAA Manager for International programs and policy.

CAAP is however optimistic on the results of the audit as they defended their position on international compliance previously issued by United Nation's International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)."



Better keep the seal on the bubbly for now...    .



Meanwhile, QR is transferring one flight from MNL to CRK starting Oct 28.....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-t_c3p6Ojqro/T-MbHTg5oJI/AAAAAAAAJz8/PopsBWfIb48/s1600/boeing_777-300_qatar_airways.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-t_c3p6Ojqr...0/boeing_777-300_qatar_airways.jpg

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2013/05/qatar-flies-clark.html

Quote:
"Qatar Airways will move one of its flight out of Manila to Clark from October 28 after Philippine Airlines (PAL) cancelled code-share deals with Doha based carrier effective on the next winter schedule. Earlier, PAL cancelled deals with Dubai-based Emirates Airlines after PAL decided to fly own metal to the Middle East countries on the next winter schedule beginning November 1."

[Edited 2013-05-06 22:21:55]


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User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 30949 times:

Is there any significance or implication that the Gulf carriers seem to be shifting towards Clark? Could this be that they are starting to acknowledge Clark as the new gateway to the Philippines?

I wonder if PAL will ever consider launching a middle east route from Clark. The Philippine airspace blog above notes that Qatar will be replacing one of its Manila flights with the service to Clark. Is that true? I haven't been able to confirm that anywhere.

I bet Etihad will be launching a Clark service within the next few months.

More details here:
http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...irways-announces-new-route-to.html

Also, will Qatar be using the A330 or B777? Are Clark's facilities adequate to handle this huge influx of international passengers through the customs area if the flights were scheduled around the same time?


User currently offlineLurveBus From Philippines, joined Mar 2007, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 31, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 30842 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 30):
I wonder if PAL will ever consider launching a middle east route from Clark. The Philippine airspace blog above notes that Qatar will be replacing one of its Manila flights with the service to Clark. Is that true? I haven't been able to confirm that anywhere.

The gulf carriers are renting entitlements from PAL. If PAL decides to take the entitlements back and fly their own metal to the middle east, then they have no choice but to reduce frequency. Even EK's service to Clark comes at a time when they're going to lose a frequency to Manila because PAL is no longer going to codeshare by the 4th quarter.

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 30):
Are Clark's facilities adequate to handle this huge influx of international passengers through the customs area if the flights were scheduled around the same time?

They're not. But then again, they're not really adequate at MNL either, and that hasn't stopped multiple widebodies arriving at the same time in a cramped terminal.


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 32, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 30718 times:

Sorry folks...afraid I got burned by that link in Reply 26...    ...

http://cdn.feeyo.com/pic/20080628/200806280325235010.jpg
http://cdn.feeyo.com/pic/20080628/200806280325235010.jpg

Apparently, the photo is - of all places, Chengdu airport. I thought it was the Koreans' proposed design for CRK..    ..again, apologies if I had misled anybody...    .



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User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 33, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 30688 times:

Quoting LurveBus (Reply 31):
Quoting dforce1 (Reply 30):
Are Clark's facilities adequate to handle this huge influx of international passengers through the customs area if the flights were scheduled around the same time?

They're not. But then again, they're not really adequate at MNL either, and that hasn't stopped multiple widebodies arriving at the same time in a cramped terminal.

I agree...I have landed at Clark when just one other flight arrived and it was a one hour wait in Customs. If three a/c hit at the same time, it is chaos. I just hope the airport authority there is prepared for this influx on the Customs side. They can barely handle multiple A320 arrivals let alone a 77W!


User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4753 posts, RR: 43
Reply 34, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 30638 times:

I guess QR will keep the popular QR 926/927 service at MNL which is a standardized schedule operated with a B77W departing MNL at 1725 daily and arriving into MNL at 1555 respectively.

CRK does not have the slot problems that MNL has so hopefully the 2nd daily MNL which is operated currently with a split schedule, shall change to a standardized one with a 0825 dep from DOH, arriving into CRK at 2215 and departing back for DOH from CRK at 0005. Though from my experience working with GF on this route, I know Filipinos find it unsafe to commute back to their homes between 2300-0200 after arriving from the GCC, so if this is the deal breaker for QR and if they can obtain other slots at CRK, they have the choice of moving QR 928/929 to CRK which is a 1925 dep from DOH, 0915 arr into CRK and departing back at 1040 !


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 30508 times:

Some breaking news: the A321 will be entering service with PR this August! Planes will be registered as RP-C99XX. Kudos to fransarj of SkyscraperCity for this info. 



Source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=103058541&postcount=34010

[Edited 2013-05-08 10:02:10]

User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 30424 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 33):
I agree...I have landed at Clark when just one other flight arrived and it was a one hour wait in Customs. If three a/c hit at the same time, it is chaos. I just hope the airport authority there is prepared for this influx on the Customs side. They can barely handle multiple A320 arrivals let alone a 77W!

If Philippine Airlines ever wants a fair chance at making Manila a transit hub for international passengers, it will need to make significant improvements to the guest experience. I suppose if the Philippines is your final destinations, you just simply don't have a choice but if you are connecting to an onward destination, Singapore is far more appealing!

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 35):
Some breaking news: the A321 will be entering service with PR this August! Planes will be registered as RP-C99XX. Kudos to fransarj of SkyscraperCity for this info.

Awesome news! Does anyone know when Cebu Pacific will be receiving its first A321?


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 30259 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 35):
Some breaking news: the A321 will be entering service with PR this August!

I wonder if Time Airways will purchase similar aircraft. It pretty much mirror's PAL's fleet except for the CRJ. Perhaps Ser Chief's company will do maintenance on PAL's fleet as well.



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User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 30142 times:

I just read that the Civil Aeronautics Board is reporting that it will ask Philippine Airlines and Cebu Pacific to reduce its flights to Boracay after repeated flight cancellations beginning the first week of April.

Read More Here:
http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...lights-to-boracay-may-get-cut.html

What do you think is going on here with the so-called flight cancellations? Is Cebu Pacific and PAL trying to monopolize slots at Caticlan to prevent competitors from coming in? If they are indeed forced to reduce flights, who will fill the void? Zest is dropping their turbo props and I'm not sure what is happening with SEAir but I know turboprops are not part of their new Tiger Airways-adopted business model. How about SkyJet? They said they wanted to service Caticlan with the Bae-146. Is the Caticlan runway capable of handling this aircraft?


User currently offlinePRFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 30136 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 37):
I wonder if Time Airways will purchase similar aircraft.

Just as long as Captain James Ventura is still the Chief Pilot for Time Airways.  

Any news on the recently concluded FAA audit? Is FAA recommending the lifting of CAT II?


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 30015 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 37):
Perhaps Ser Chief's company will do maintenance on PAL's fleet as well.

   Keep in mind that El Capitan also owns LTP    .

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 38):
What do you think is going on here with the so-called flight cancellations? Is Cebu Pacific and PAL trying to monopolize slots at Caticlan to prevent competitors from coming in?

Your guess is as good as anyone else's   .

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 38):
If they are indeed forced to reduce flights, who will fill the void? Zest is dropping their turbo props

.
http://www.flightglobal.com/Assets/GetAsset.aspx?ItemID=10998

Been there, and done that.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWg6EpiFrAQ&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNdtwGFeCPk

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 38):
How about SkyJet? They said they wanted to service Caticlan with the Bae-146. Is the Caticlan runway capable of handling this aircraft?

If they're willing to put up with the restrictions, and make money despite those.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...duled-regional-jet-service-211530/

Quote:
"Po says that to clear the way for operations into the strip, the airline had to obtain BAE Systems' certification and special approval from the Philippine civil aviation authorities. He adds that the carrier is only allowed to land at Caticlan using the 83-seat BAe 146-100 variant, but with capacity restricted to 60 passengers."


   Not sure if the CAAP has now banned jet ops into MPH altogether...and don't know about the current status of the runway extension project    .

That said, I wonder if 5J or 2P would still order this for Caticlan and Panglao.....

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User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 41, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 29907 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 38):
What do you think is going on here with the so-called flight cancellations? Is Cebu Pacific and PAL trying to monopolize slots at Caticlan to prevent competitors from coming in? If they are indeed forced to reduce flights, who will fill the void? Zest is dropping their turbo props and I'm not sure what is happening with SEAir but I know turboprops are not part of their new Tiger Airways-adopted business model. How about SkyJet? They said they wanted to service Caticlan with the Bae-146. Is the Caticlan runway capable of handling this aircraft?

I recently read with the Tiger Air purchase, the original SEAir was split into the Airbus operation they were interested in, and the turbo-prop operation will rebuild, completely independent of Tiger ownership. This may resurrect the D328 operation and I'm sure Caticlan will be high on their list.

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 40):

Not sure if the CAAP has now banned jet ops into MPH altogether...and don't know about the current status of the runway extension project .

That said, I wonder if 5J or 2P would still order this for Caticlan and Panglao.....

I was there last week. The grading of the hill had already started and I also noticed, the green "Mabuhay" YAK-40 (ex-IslandAir) is gone. They said the a/c was moved for the expansion and it was trucked to Kalibo. Not sure if that is factual though. Anyway, the expansion has started.


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 42, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 29895 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 41):

I was there last week. The grading of the hill had already started and I also noticed, the green "Mabuhay" YAK-40 (ex-IslandAir) is gone. They said the a/c was moved for the expansion and it was trucked to Kalibo. Not sure if that is factual though. Anyway, the expansion has started.

somehow, my text got italicized in the previous thread


User currently offlinebabaero From Philippines, joined Jan 2002, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 29879 times:

Who is Astro Air.

Noted there crew in Clark terminal the other day waiting to take a CRK - TPE - KALIBO sector, however no passengers were getting on in CRK.

MD80 was on ramp being prepared, and a/c had 8 cabin crew, seemed excessive for an MD80


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 44, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29777 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 41):
This may resurrect the D328 operation and I'm sure Caticlan will be high on their list.

   I was kinda hoping they would acquire a few of these to widen the variety they have had over the years.....

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   Would certainly be exciting to watch it land and climb out of MPH.....

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Quoting crownvic (Reply 41):
I was there last week. The grading of the hill had already started and I also noticed, the green "Mabuhay" YAK-40 (ex-IslandAir) is gone. They said the a/c was moved for the expansion and it was trucked to Kalibo. Not sure if that is factual though. Anyway, the expansion has started.

Thank you for the information. Expecting the terminal would look nice like this.....

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Photo © Paulo Santos - Aerospray

Quoting babaero (Reply 43):
Who is Astro Air.

Sorry, no idea who.

Quoting babaero (Reply 43):
MD80 was on ramp being prepared, and a/c had 8 cabin crew, seemed excessive for an MD80

I wonder if this could be the very same plane?.....

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5935183


BTW, a pity that catchy user name rarely makes an appearance here lately...brightens the day!   



[Edited 2013-05-10 02:51:50]


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User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 29607 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 41):
I recently read with the Tiger Air purchase, the original SEAir was split into the Airbus operation they were interested in, and the turbo-prop operation will rebuild, completely independent of Tiger ownership. This may resurrect the D328 operation and I'm sure Caticlan will be high on their list.

Yes, I read that as well. They formed a new company called SEAir International which is rather ironic considering they will never fly internationally with those aircraft. I thought they were to have launched by now but I haven't heard a single word about them in a while. Maybe one could dig through the CAB website for some information.

Quoting babaero (Reply 43):
Who is Astro Air.

Astro Air appears to be a reincarnation of Spirit of Manila Airlines. At present, it appears their fleet consists of a couple of MD-83 aircraft. The focus of the airline will be flights to Taipei, Taiwan served non-stop from both Subic and Kalibo airport. They are currently awaiting permission from the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines for permission to fly the new routes. Flights were supposed to have launched in January 2013. https://www.facebook.com/AstroAir

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 40):
Not sure if the CAAP has now banned jet ops into MPH altogether...and don't know about the current status of the runway extension project

What is the maximum size of aircraft they are hoping to accommodate after the runway extension? Is anything planned for the terminal?

On another note, are SkyJet's BAE-146 aircraft ex-Asian Spirit?

Yesterday was retirement day for Zest Air's fleet of MA-60 turboprop aircraft. Last flight was from Busuanga and arrived in Manila at 5pm. More on that story here: http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...013/05/zest-air-retires-ma-60.html


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 46, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 29491 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 45):
What is the maximum size of aircraft they are hoping to accommodate after the runway extension? Is anything planned for the terminal?

I don't have time to find the link, but if you google "Caticlan Airport Expansion" there are full details. There will be a whole new terminal (there are images) and the r/w will be expanded to 1900m from 890m. Long enough to accommodate flights from most Asian cities.

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 45):

On another note, are SkyJet's BAE-146 aircraft ex-Asian Spirit?

No they are not. If you click on this link, you will find quite a history of this particular a/c including it's start at PSA and it then migrating through Europe for most of it's recent life
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7596947&nseq=1

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 45):
Yesterday was retirement day for Zest Air's fleet of MA-60 turboprop aircraft. Last flight was from Busuanga and arrived in Manila at 5pm. More on that story here: http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...013/05/zest-air-retires-ma-60.html

Sad to see them go. I flew on them many times and never had anything to concern me w/ their safety. Both accidents at Caticlan I personally do not blame on the a/c. Every ATR and Dash 8 flying into MPH is pushing it's performance parameters. Both landing accidents were really not the fault of the a/c


User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 29295 times:

Quoting babaero (Reply 43):
Who is Astro Air.

According to this article, Astro Air already has its air operator certificate but its still waiting approval to fly the routes. Anybody know what the hold up is or why this airline hasn't launched flights yet? It says they were supposed to have launched in January. Would be nice to see some MD-83's back in the Philippine skies for a bit more variety!

More here: http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...international-ready-to-launch.html


User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 29119 times:

Does anybody know if PAL's new A330-300's and the leased A340 from Iberia will have personal televisions with video on demand like the B777?

User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 49, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 29090 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 47):

Well, I suspect it´s related to the bilaterals between the Philippines and Taiwan as Astro Air needs to get a certain amount of entitlements ...
I think it´s the CAB that slows down the process - don´t think there´s opposition on the Taiwan side.

My comment is pure "guesswork" ...
So, don´t take it as given fact !



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 29053 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 48):
Does anybody know if PAL's new A330-300's and the leased A340 from Iberia will have personal televisions with video on demand like the B777?

I'm not confident with the leased A340s, but I am pretty sure the new A330s will have AVOD. I wonder if the A321s though will be equipped though.


User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 28923 times:

Here's an interesting news item I discovered. SEAir is cancelling their flights to Davao in favour of increasing flights to Bacolod. I wouldn't have guessed that Bacolod is more profitable than Davao. But I suppose both Bacolod and Davao represent the few routes in the country where all of the Philippine carriers compete. It's especially interesting given that Air Asia - Zest just launched new service to Bacolod which is bound to spark a fare war. What do you make of it?

http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...air-suspends-flights-to-davao.html


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 52, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 28758 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 45):

What is the maximum size of aircraft they are hoping to accommodate after the runway extension?

What they were hoping for and what is practical in the short - medium term may be too far apart.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/search/label/caticlan%20airport

Given the GC distances from MPH to potential destinations, just one city falls close to the 500nm range from a 1,147m TOFL requirement of the E170 - the smallest jet in production that still has a decent revenue potential.....

http://www.embraercommercialjets.com/img//download/138.pdf

Maybe they could better their 1,000m target and add 300m more of runway by 2016 so it might be granted a 2C classification. Would be more than good enough for small bizjets.

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 45):
Is anything planned for the terminal?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6C_WRrCWJsI/Tgh2dJTKVZI/AAAAAAAAGlo/zqcRhy6IQ_g/s1600/ph3-250611_RB-1.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6C_WRrCWJs...Rhy6IQ_g/s1600/ph3-250611_RB-1.jpg

http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z463/pangyao/Caticlan%20Airport/cadc.jpg
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/...angyao/Caticlan%20Airport/cadc.jpg

Gotta love the idea of a VLA @ MPH...    !

Not sure what will become of this.....

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mh4ok8y-bQ.../New_Caticlan_Airport_Terminal.jpg

Quoting crownvic (Reply 46):
the r/w will be expanded to 1900m from 890m. Long enough to accommodate flights from most Asian cities.

Don't know if it was a misprint or the goal was updated, but they were looking at 1,500m only in 2025.....

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http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=mph-hkg/i.../oka&MS=wls&MR=300&MX=540x540&PM=*

Thus, they could only fly to the rest of the cities within the E170's 2100nm range then. By which time, the G2 E-Jets will have long been in service. It might be best if they kept the NEOs at KLO.



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User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 28523 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 52):
Given the GC distances from MPH to potential destinations, just one city falls close to the 500nm range from a 1,147m TOFL requirement of the E170 - the smallest jet in production that still has a decent revenue potential.....

Would the Bombardier C-Series be effective here? It seems ridiculous if they wait until 2025. They will have a much better chance of meeting their tourism goals if they get this in place by 2016.

I also wonder why aren't there any regional jets currently in the Philippines? The only one that comes to mind is SkyJet's Bae-146.

[Edited 2013-05-17 10:11:53]

User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 54, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 28383 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 53):
Quoting Devilfish (Reply 52):
Given the GC distances from MPH to potential destinations, just one city falls close to the 500nm range from a 1,147m TOFL requirement of the E170 - the smallest jet in production that still has a decent revenue potential.....

Would the Bombardier C-Series be effective here? It seems ridiculous if they wait until 2025. They will have a much better chance of meeting their tourism goals if they get this in place by 2016.

I also wonder why aren't there any regional jets currently in the Philippines? The only one that comes to mind is SkyJet's Bae-146.

[Edited 2013-05-17 10:11:53]

Well, when you have Airbus giving the store away all over Asia with A319/320 types, why would you even bother with an RJ? Missile launched  


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 28354 times:

Hey guys! I've been away for a while and it was a surprise to find all the interesting posts you've been doing during the month.
Last night I found something that I thought would be of interest to some of you too. On CABs website they usually publish statistics of domestic and international passengers in the Philippines, but never before have I seen detailed information of ALL airlines, and even more so, the load factor of every airline operating in the country:

http://www.cab.gov.ph/statistics/category/international-3 (Choose the first file)

The most notable figures according to me are the following:

EK: On January 1, the airline added a third flight on a 77W (a 50% increase in capacity), but still the airline kept an LF of 91% on all three flights! Usually the LF decreases after adding capacity and then gradually gain back, but EK seems to have filled the new flight up without any problems.

EY, QR and GF haf LFs of 90%, 89% and 84%.

HA: LF of 36%?? No wonder the airline is cutting Manila!

NOTE: ALthough I do find the numbers reliable, the LFs has to be double checked. Example: EKs figure of 210,210 passengers has been divided by 90 days, which is 2336. This figure has in turn been divided by six flights, and your result is 389 passengers per flight. CAB has chosen the 427-seated 77W to get an LF of 91%, but EK mostly use a 442-seated 77W which gives you an LF of 88%.

After realising this, I noticed that the figure for DL and SV (and maybe others?) are surely correct, but the LF is incorrect! The LF on HA is unfortunately correct.

/Alex



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User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 28352 times:

If Philippine Airlines is looking to acquire more wide bodies, I wonder if they would consider purchasing these aircraft. Must be cheaper than getting them brand new....

http://worldairlinenews.com/2013/05/...ling-all-eight-boeing-777-200-lrs/


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 57, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 28212 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 53):

Would the Bombardier C-Series be effective here?

The CS100 might...but there are no specifics yet regarding short field performance on their website (other than generalities) that would indicate its compatibility with MPH.

http://media.bombardiercms.com/cseries/medias/cseries/galleries/cseries_path_large_en_cs007.jpg
http://media.bombardiercms.com/cseri...es/cseries_path_large_en_cs007.jpg

http://cseries.com/info/en/#/cseries/technology/

The CS100 would need more than twice the current available runway length at Caticlan...assuming roughly the same 2,056m TOFL as the E190 for full range...compared to the E170's 1,644m requirement.

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 53):
It seems ridiculous if they wait until 2025.

A big part of the problem is 'right-of-way' acquisition. The government could invoke 'eminent domain' but it would still have to pay the owners' asking price. Forcing the issue may lead to an interminable legal battle. And then there are the geo-technical and environmental hurdles.

All these will require vast sums of money that people of the province will see as favoring parochial financial interests and foreign leisure seekers...versus the wider KLO community. Which in turn could give rise to social unrest...as we have the opposite of NIMBYs here. Politics being what it is, it's entirely possible the government would take the easy way out.

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 53):
I also wonder why aren't there any regional jets currently in the Philippines?

The frequency demand in the country is not as acute as in the West. The market is more efficiently and profitably served by bigger aircraft. It's only in cases like MPH where they want to bring in regional travelers directly that twinjets like the E170 begin to be considered (turboprops beat it locally). It'll help that used E170s are immediately available at reasonable cost...pending G2 EIS in 2018.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...year-service-entry-in-2018-383416/

Besides, it's doubtful Bombardier and Embraer could match A & B's financial clout.


Quoting dforce1 (Reply 56):
If Philippine Airlines is looking to acquire more wide bodies, I wonder if they would consider purchasing these aircraft. Must be cheaper than getting them brand new....

I guess it's more likely for PR to order 787s than buy those.  



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 58, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 27979 times:

Just found what I've been searching for.....

http://cseries.com/info/en/#/cseries...y/urbanoperations/cityconnections/

So, the CS100 could do 1,500nm from a 1,200m takeoff run, and basically cover most of the target cities in the region.....

http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=&R=1500nm%40mph&MS=wls&MR=360&MX=540x540&PM=*
http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=&R=1500nm...0mph&MS=wls&MR=360&MX=540x540&PM=*

If proven true, then it'd be much better than the E170 - with lower seat-mile cost due to greater pax capacity. The GTF EJets would have a tough act to follow and face stiff competition...at least for ops into this tiny airport.

I wonder which airlines in the region are interested in the CSeries or the G2EJets    ?

Now, if only the CAAP and DOTC could achieve 1,300m by 2016...    ...!

[Edited 2013-05-19 17:15:05]


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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 59, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 27739 times:

The opening of Laguindingan Airport postponed for June 15, 2013 may face another delay.....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m6ajez6AOW0/UZkkAprmgnI/AAAAAAAAAqQ/oR_CJF9g850/s1600/ladpmarch2012.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m6ajez6AOW...R_CJF9g850/s1600/ladpmarch2012.jpg

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/396831/...de-oro-airport-undergoes-dry-run-2

Quote:
"The DOTC announced recently that the opening of the Laguindingan Airport will be moved from end of this month to June 15 in light of a request from the airlines to be given more time to rearrange flight schedules.

Misamis Oriental Governor Oscar Moreno welcomed the DOTC announcement.

'I am happy that the DOTC took a step backward in order to take another look to address the concerns of the public,' he said."


.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yHf8EhPCSy...AqY/rQghVNdf5C4/s1600/65045465.jpg


Concerned parties claim the lack of navigational aids as the reason for the need to defer the opening anew. But wasn't the $13M loan funding for those approved a long time ago?       .....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...llion-navaid-for-laguindingan.html



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 60, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 27586 times:

Why are PR quitting DEL?

User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 61, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 27445 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 60):
Why are PR quitting DEL?

Poor sales was given as the reason.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/pal-quits-delhi.html

Quote:
"Philippine Airlines announced that it will be cancelling flights to Delhi from June 17, 2013 due to poor sales. Passengers affected after that date will be accommodated by airline partners. Flights to Bangkok remain unchanged. Services to Delhi has seen flight downgrades from Airbus 330 to Airbus 320 until the airline finally pulled the plug to the Indian Capital."



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User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 27042 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 28):
That strongly argues for the third option which brings the most immediate and tangible results for the least outlay. They could maximize the operations at NAIA while not adding to airspace congestion by having another busy one so close by ...there would be an adequate diversion airport suitably located to handle emergencies or absorb overflow flights in case of downtime in the other.

This option also brings the benefits of a gateway nearer to the broader population base in central/western/northern Luzon ...at the same time keeping the premier airport for the national capital region and southern/eastern provinces ...in contrast to IATA's preference for a single Manila airport.

Option 1 leaves no wiggle room, Option 2 seems a tentative solution, and Option 3 is open ended.

Looks like the government is setting aside P3 billion for construction of a P6 billion budget terminal for Clark Airport next year. Is this a sign that the government is now leaning towards Option 2?

http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...on-allocated-for-clark-budget.html

Has anyone seen any drawings of what a proposed budget terminal would look like? The government said that it wasn't part of the original plans...


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 26873 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 62):

Looks like the government is setting aside P3 billion for construction of a P6 billion budget terminal for Clark Airport next year. Is this a sign that the government is now leaning towards Option 2?

I would hate to see anything more budget than the existing facilities. The recent upgrade of CRK has been a joke. Having said that, it probably would be a good idea to have a completely new terminal and start from scratch.

I know Philippines have limited resources, but why does it always have to be budget, discount and lowcost. Everything just always seem so mediocre. I would love to see something properly done, which the country could benefit from!



Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 26874 times:

Seems like China Eastern is launching its first route to the Philippines in october, by launching a daily PVG-MNL service on A320.
Midnight arrival and departure, I guess this was the only slot they could get. Anyone who knows if these flights will be good for connections at PVG?

/Alex



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 26827 times:

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 64):
Seems like China Eastern is launching its first route to the Philippines in october, by launching a daily PVG-MNL service on A320.

Actually, it's their second. The first route was PVG-CEB, which was launched a few years ago, and is currently operated on a seasonal basis.

----

Anyway, since we're talking about Greater China, I think it would be fitting to announce that Z2 and 5J have announced reductions in their services to Taiwan. Z2 has suspended their KLO-TPE flights until further notice, while 5J has postponed the launch of CEB-TPE indefinitely due to the row between the Philippines and Taiwan.

http://www.interaksyon.com/business/...est-air-suspends-flights-to-taiwan

http://www.interaksyon.com/business/...suspends-maiden-cebu-taipei-flight

Meanwhile, in other news, PR has announced that it is upping its no-show fee for domestic flights to P1500, and it is reducing domestic baggage allowances systemwide (PR and 2P) from 15 kilograms to 10. It is also increasing excess baggage fees on domestic flights to P200/kilogram.

http://www.interaksyon.com/business/...-passengers-cuts-baggage-allowance

Also, it seems that not all is lost for HA, as it has received an extension of its authority to fly to the Philippines. While it is pulling out on July 31, its authority has been extended to 2015, and they will consider resuming service to MNL should market conditions allow it to be more profitable.

http://www.interaksyon.com/business/...s-permit-to-fly-to-the-philippines


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 26740 times:

Akiestar, I was thinking about PVG-CEB too, but that route is charter right, not a regular service.

[Edited 2013-05-28 07:50:59]


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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 26534 times:

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 66):
Akiestar, I was thinking about PVG-CEB too, but that route is charter right, not a regular service.

I was under the impression that it was a scheduled service, not a charter.


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (1 year 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 26419 times:

Not really aviation related, but I thought some of you would be interested anyway. The Philippine economy has grown fast during last three years, but as the Q1 2013 growth was released today, the economy grew by an amazing 7.8 %! This is even faster than China (7,7%), India, Indonesia and all ASEAN economies.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/
Lets all hope this growth shows sustainable and reflected in the country's aviation business.

/Alex



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User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 26227 times:

I was reading the FlightGlobal news headlines and there were a couple that got my attention. Unfortunately, I don't have a subscription so cannot enjoy access to the full article. I was hoping that maybe some people here could help fill in the blanks...

HEADLINE 1:

"Philippine carrier PAL Express plans to launch four new domestic services in June. It will start a four times weekly Iloilo-Puerto Princesa service on 1 June. This will be followed by thrice weekly Iloilo-General Santos, Cebu-Busuanga and ..."

What would the fourth new route be?

HEADLINE 2:

"Philippine Airlines (PAL) plans to configure its incoming fleet of Airbus A321 and A330-300 aircraft in four classes to cater to a larger range of passengers. The A321s will be configured with 202 seats, including 12 business, 36 premium economy and ..."

The official headline says that PAL will be introducing four classes of service. But here, I only see Business and Premium Economy. It's fairly obvious they will be maintaining an economy section which leaves one question unanswered - are they going to introduce a first class? If anyone has any information about the configurations of both aircraft, would appreciate any extra info.

Can't find anything anywhere else on the web. No clue how Flight Global gets this info!


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 26222 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 69):
What would the fourth new route be?

Not necessarily new: 2P is restarting USU-PPS (Busuanga-Puerto Princesa), which was discontinued just last year.

I am curious though: 2P is taking over ILO-GES, which was a PR route. Perhaps the economics did not justify PR metal being used on this route?

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 69):
It's fairly obvious they will be maintaining an economy section which leaves one question unanswered - are they going to introduce a first class? If anyone has any information about the configurations of both aircraft, would appreciate any extra info.

The configurations haven't been made public yet, as far as I know. At the same time, PR has no immediate plans of reintroducing First Class after getting rid of it in 2008. If I had to guess, it could be the reintroduction of Econolight (ultra-basic economy class, complete with LCC-like service), but I am not sure.


User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 71, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 26158 times:

I need some help...

According to wikipedia Fil-Asian Airways http://www.filasianair.com started operations on March 27th 2013 between Zamboanga and Cebu... Is it true? Which a/c is used, NAMC YS11?

Also any news about ASTRO AIR - https://www.facebook.com/AstroAir ?!


User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 26136 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 71):
According to wikipedia Fil-Asian Airways http://www.filasianair.com started operations on March 27th 2013 between Zamboanga and Cebu... Is it true? Which a/c is used, NAMC YS11?

Also any news about ASTRO AIR - https://www.facebook.com/AstroAir ?!

I am following both of these closely myself. From what I understand, Astro Air has been operating weekly charter flights between Kalibo and Taipei but has yet to begin scheduled service. I can't seem to get in touch with anyone from there but will keep trying.

This is the most recent information I have:
http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...international-ready-to-launch.html

In regards to Fil-Asian Airways, they have not started operations. I got a message from their e-commerce officer via their Facebook page (which gets updated) and he said they are TRYING to launch this June. He is going to send me more information on Monday about their plans and I will write up an article. Not quite sure why there are delays. And yes, they will be using the NAMC YS11! Looking forward to flying in that! Anyway, will let you know more once I hear it .

Here is their Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FilAsianAir


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 73, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 26070 times:

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 72):
Quoting debonair (Reply 71):
According to wikipedia Fil-Asian Airways http://www.filasianair.com started operations on March 27th 2013 between Zamboanga and Cebu... Is it true? Which a/c is used, NAMC YS11?

Also any news about ASTRO AIR - https://www.facebook.com/AstroAir ?!

I am following both of these closely myself. From what I understand, Astro Air has been operating weekly charter flights between Kalibo and Taipei but has yet to begin scheduled service. I can't seem to get in touch with anyone from there but will keep trying.

This is the most recent information I have:
http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c....html

One of the ex Manila Airlines MD83s is rotting away at CRK. It will not fly again in this state. I think Astro Air is not intending to put that one back to service.



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 74, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 25848 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 3):
Speaking of airports, it seems like construction has stopped on SLIA (Bicol International).

If you were referring to this, the delay appears to have been worked out now.....

.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-quFcTr7Mcn...of+Bicol+International+Airport.jpg

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...ecures-bicol-airport-contract.html

Quote:
"The Sunwest Construction Development Corporation (SCDC) has been cleared by the Regional Trial Court of Mandaluyung City to begin construction of the 1.2 billion pesos Daraga Airport Project phase 1 after the court confirmed the awards by DOTC of the contract to the company.

The 1.2 billion contract includes airside development covering the runway strip construction, concrete paving of runway, construction of taxiway, rigid pavement, and other peripheral works.

Legal challenges has been thrown by losing bidders, BSP & Co Inc and 4B Construction Corp.on the capacity of the company to undertake the bid. Judge Maria A. Cancino-Erum of RTC Branch 211 dismissed both companies' petition for lack of jurisdiction."


Seems the "right considerations" have been made.   

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 62):
Looks like the government is setting aside P3 billion for construction of a P6 billion budget terminal for Clark Airport next year. Is this a sign that the government is now leaning towards Option 2?

It appears more like Option 3.....

http://clarkaviationconference.com/w...-Conference-Solis-Feb-18-Final.pdf

[quote=dforce1,reply=62]Has anyone seen any drawings of what a proposed budget terminal would look like? The government said that it wasn't part of the original plans...

Those could be the images in the above link...not too sure though.


Quoting dforce1 (Reply 72):
And yes, they will be using the NAMC YS11! Looking forward to flying in that!

No c/n number to determine provenance, but definitely a beautiful plane    .....

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Photo © Tsuyoshi Tsuda



[Edited 2013-06-01 14:43:43]


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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 25782 times:

I'm not sure how often we follow airport improvements here on A.net, but I figure we should see some of them, particularly since this is where our tax money goes! 

(I am still a skeptic of this administration, but I'm glad they're doing something right.)

Calbayog Airport (CYP)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=100310826&postcount=145

Catarman National Airport (CRM)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88716537&postcount=37

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=102834280&postcount=746

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=102834368&postcount=747

Roxas Airport (RXS)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=102121363&postcount=292


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 76, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 25729 times:

[quote=Devilfish,reply=74]No c/n number to determine provenance, but definitely a beautiful plane .....

Any chance this is the Aero Majestic YS-11 that was flying out of Zambo last year? I have not heard anything about them recently.


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 25457 times:

The schedules for PAL's new Saudi routes have been released:

Manila – Dammam 3 weekly
PR682 MNL1630 – 2100DMM 333 135
PR683 DMM2230 – 1240+1MNL 333 135

Manila – Jeddah 4 weekly
PR680 MNL1445 – 2105JED 333 x246
PR681 JED2235 – 1405+1MNL 333 x246

Manila – Riyadh 6 weekly
PR654 MNL1400 – 1930RUH 333 x6
PR655 RUH2100 – 1145+1MNL 333 x6

Airline route update claims that these A333s will be all-economy configured, do you guys know anything about this?
If true, I'd say it's a smart move by PAL to be very Y-heavy on these routes, although wouldn't it be better with atleast a small J-cabin with maybe 12 or 18 seats.

AUH was already released a while ago:

PR656 MNL1625 – 2145AUH 343 D
PR657 AUH2315 – 1225+1MNL 343 D

Now only DOH and DXB remain.

/Alex

[Edited 2013-06-06 13:18:31]


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User currently offlineairlinebuilder From Philippines, joined Nov 2012, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 25330 times:

if these supposedly A333s are going to be all economy, meaning it will be flown by PALexpress, contrary to the billboards on Philippine Airline properties at the airport parameters, all these are going to be flown by PAL and only DXB was assigned to PALexpress, so which goes to what and where?

Considering PALexpress will be getting 8 brand new A333s then I wander where these machine will be flown aside from DXB if almost all mideast destinations have been assigned to its mother company.... Any thoughts? insiders perhaps?


User currently offlineflyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 25257 times:

Any thoughts on this? Oman air and Jet airways (india) have been denied traffic rights to MNL.

http://www.emirates247.com/news/emir...by-philippines-2013-06-04-1.509078

from the article:
The Philippines has denied the applications of Oman Air and India’s Jet Airways to fly to Manila, owing to the limited capacity of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA).

“We are denying foreign airlines, such as Oman and Jet Airways…” an unnamed source at the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) was quoted as saying by ‘The Philippine Star’ on Tuesday. “It is not that the market is becoming less vibrant. It is due to the infrastructure.”

Oman Air and Jet Airways had filed separate applications with the CAB for the issuance of Foreign Air Carrier’s Permit (FACP), in order that they could operate international scheduled air transportation services to and from the Philippines.
=---------------------------------

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 61):
Quoting 777way (Reply 60):
Why are PR quitting DEL?

Poor sales was given as the reason.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/pal-quits-delhi.html
."

So the only direct link between India and Phil is gone ....again. but DEL was always a bad choice. BOM would have been better choice but just my 2 cents....

Am pretty sure jet airways with its good on board product would have a better run if they are given the route but i guess they wanted to serve from BOM instead of DEL.


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 25254 times:

Quoting flyhigh@tom (Reply 79):
Any thoughts on this? Oman air and Jet airways (india) have been denied traffic rights to MNL.

http://www.emirates247.com/news/emir...09078

They were not denied traffic rights per se: they were denied slots. 9W and WY are still free to fly to any point in the Philippines except to MNL, but the CAB ruled that out.

http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.p...gestion-costs-naia-2-big-air-deals


User currently offlineflyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 25239 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 80):
They were not denied traffic rights per se: they were denied slots. 9W and WY are still free to fly to any point in the Philippines except to MNL, but the CAB ruled that out.

http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.p...deals

All the more reason why CRK should be developed as the gateway...and high speed connectivity between CRK and MNL.

I flew out from Phil a week back. Started from Clark in my car on a saturday at 1400 hrs for the 1825 EK departing from MNL. Managed to step into NAIA at 1735 hrs.   

Am waiting for the day EK starts DXB-CRK but i guess the time spent on the road from MNL-CRK i will just spend in the immigration queue in DMIA....well something has to happen. I hope DMIA authorities are geared up for a 440 seater aircraft...currently it is a harrowing time when 2 A320s come in at the same time.  

My friends have a tough time when i explain to them the 40 to 45 mins it takes to get airborne from pushback on an emirates flt when RWY 24 is in use. that kind of underscores how congested MNL is.


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 25191 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 71):
According to wikipedia Fil-Asian Airways http://www.filasianair.com started operations on March 27th 2013 between Zamboanga and Cebu... Is it true? Which a/c is used, NAMC YS11?

Fil-Asian Airways is the former Mid-Sea Express. I wonder what happened to their other planes?

Quoting dforce1 (Reply 72):
Not quite sure why there are delays.

I was reading through SkyscraperCity and the cause may be with the aircraft itself. Since the Piper Seneca crash back in 2012 that killed Jesse Robredo, the CAAP has ordered that all aircraft have to be re-certified as airworthy by a reputable MRO licensed to certify that aircraft (this is called the "Robredo Rule"). Since there are no MROs in the Philippines for the YS-11, and I don't know if they have tried looking abroad, the plane is effectively grounded.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=102597879&postcount=3423


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 83, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 25185 times:

Anyway, since I think the memo missed people here. 

http://business.inquirer.net/125323/...ifting-restrictions-on-ph-airlines


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 84, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 25011 times:

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 78):
if these supposedly A333s are going to be all economy, meaning it will be flown by PALexpress, contrary to the billboards on Philippine Airline properties at the airport parameters, all these are going to be flown by PAL and only DXB was assigned to PALexpress, so which goes to what and where?

If this is the case, I find it more reasonable. I always tohught sending PAL to Saudi and PALExpress to Dubai was very, very strange. I mean their routes to Saudi must be 99% OFW, while their route to DXB would (surely be atleast 95% OFW aswell) atleast see some business.
Although competition is higher on DXB-MNL...

Well it'll be interesting to see which routes get what...



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 85, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 24961 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 83):
Anyway, since I think the memo missed people here.

Saw it earlier, however...given how previous announcements misfired, decided to give it a bye.

But if true, this is one really big bombshell...  ...

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp39/istilomodelo/SANMIGUELCORPORATION.jpg
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/p...ilomodelo/SANMIGUELCORPORATION.jpg

Lucio Tan sells PAL

                          

Quote:
"In a deal valued at one billion us dollars, Lucio Tan has sold his remaining 51% equity stake of PAL Holdings to the Philippines largest conglomerate San Miguel Corporation.

The deal includes the sale of Air Philippines which carries the brand of PAL Express.

Last year, San Miguel paid US$ 500 million to Tan for a 49-percent stake in PAL Holdings in April 2012 for management control of both Philippine Airlines and Low Cost Carrier Air Philippines.

The airline has since embarked on an aggressive expansion to its route network riding on the massive equity infusion by its stockholders as it launched US$ 7 billion refleeting program comprising 54 wide and narrow bodied aircraft from Airbus."


http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...u/2013/06/lucio-tan-sells-pal.html


There were rumblings in the local business media about it...but nothing definite was published. Perhaps El Capitan was sore his brew was not sold on PR flights?         

It's a wonder for how long SMC would keep PR given RSA's comment that it's a business and there's no room for sentimentality (though I think it was about SMC's beer operation)?   



[Edited 2013-06-07 10:32:41]


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User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 86, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 24946 times:

Just heard from a person involved in the EU/EASA audit that CAAP has passed the audit and the inspection team will recommend to lift the blacklisting.  
Apparrently the results are even better than when ICAO made its audit earlier ...
Sounds promising   

Among the philippine carriers only Zest Air seems to give inspectors some headaches ...

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User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 87, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 24799 times:

So, from how I gather this, SMC paid $1.5 Billion in total for PAL ($500M for the initial 49% and $1B for the remaining 51%)? Is this airline really worth that much money? I don't get it...

User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 88, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 24555 times:

Quoting flyhigh@tom (Reply 81):
All the more reason why CRK should be developed as the gateway...and high speed connectivity between CRK and MNL.

Undeveloped aerial view of Clark.....

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http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...0/ferrarilover08/dmia_from_air.jpg

Development proposals were supposed to be submitted last February but no new plans have been seen (publicly, that is) so far. The following images are generic plans from many years ago.....

http://www.clarkab.org/maps/mainzone.jpg
http://www.clarkab.org/maps/mainzone.jpg

http://www.clarkab.org/maps/DMIA_master_plan.jpg
http://www.clarkab.org/maps/DMIA_master_plan.jpg

http://s77.photobucket.com/user/ryucloud/media/DMIA.jpg.html

http://s77.photobucket.com/user/ryucloud/media/DMIA-2.jpg.html

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Sadly, purported CRK terminal renderings appearing on the web are of something else...composed largely of enthusiasts' daydreams for this gateway. It may be a while yet before actual final designs can be available (which will still have to grind through an exasperating approval and funding process).


Quoting MHG (Reply 86):
Among the philippine carriers only Zest Air seems to give inspectors some headaches...

After the "unholy" alliance, can the CAAP expect differently? Now that Z2 is practically on its own and no longer has the MA-60s, I wonder if Mr. Y would acquire a few of these to continue flying into MPH.....

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.....perhaps with some feed from his "partners"? His Zest Air livery will look great on the Q200 for this leisure destination    .

The way things are looking now, it will be some years yet (if ever) before jets can operate into and out of MPH.....

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Quoting crownvic (Reply 87):
So, from how I gather this, SMC paid $1.5 Billion in total for PAL ($500M for the initial 49% and $1B for the remaining 51%)? Is this airline really worth that much money?

From this Inquirer report, it seems SMC just forwarded the original $500M and paid an additional $500M.....

http://business.inquirer.net/125921/lucio-tan-sells-rest-of-pal-to-smc

Quote:
According to a source from the Lucio Tan camp, the transaction involves the acquisition by San Miguel of 51 percent of the airline currently owned by the tobacco and beer magnate.

The deal is valued at $500 million and, once executed, would give San Miguel president Ramon Ang complete control over the board of the country’s largest airline.

In April 2012, San Miguel also paid $500 million for a 49-percent stake in PAL Holdings Inc., which controls the airline. Under that transaction, the conglomerate infused $500 million in equity into PAL and was also handed management control over it.



Considering the flight entitlements alloted to PAL in the various bilaterals and the large SMC investments in infrastructure connected to aviation, the conglomerate clearly sees it as a vital element in their business strategy.

[Edited 2013-06-08 09:58:52]


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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 24400 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 88):
Development proposals were supposed to be submitted last February but no new plans have been seen (publicly, that is) so far. The following images are generic plans from many years ago.....

Actually, the plans seemed to have changed. Instead of a layout similar to KUL or HKG, CRK is now pursuing a plan similar to SIN.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=103570980&postcount=9329

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 88):
I wonder if Mr. Y would acquire a few of these to continue flying into MPH.....

I doubt it, now that AK controls Z2.

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 88):
The way things are looking now, it will be some years yet (if ever) before jets can operate into and out of MPH.....

Well, SkyJet has long-term plans of flying their BAe 146 to MPH, so let's see how that goes. They're starting service to SUG this August, and they're already flying to BSO, VRC and USU.


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 90, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 24199 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 89):
Actually, the plans seemed to have changed. Instead of a layout similar to KUL or HKG, CRK is now pursuing a plan similar to SIN.

Thank you very much for the link.....

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q687/Transporter89/Album%205/F_zpse1851bdb.png
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The layout looks more efficient now and will allow phased construction...it actually resembles LAX with its sideways 'U' configuration. However, it doesn't show a fast rail connection like in the old concept...are they doing away with it? Also, there doesn't seem to be POV parking in the immediate vicinity of the terminals. It will be quite inconvenient for travelers to haul their luggage and boxes onto shuttles or an AGT to the GTC. I guess they're limiting curbside access for security and to reduce traffic...but what would they accomodate for spotters?   

There will be much demolition and siteworks as a lot of old existing structures need to be torn down, and existing underground utilities dug up, replaced or redesigned and rerouted. Mt. Pinatubo had already done some of the demolition...I wonder what risk factor they are assigning to it.

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 89):

Well, SkyJet has long-term plans of flying their BAe 146 to MPH, so let's see how that goes.

Long-term is apt...as I don't see them making much headway under the current conditions at MPH. Besides, it's unlikely they'd be allowed to use jets there ahead of the airport operator.

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IMHO, they'd be better off acquiring ATRs than operating with the restrictions linked in #40. It should be fairly easy finding used 42-500s in good condition to lease or buy relatively cheap. Its derated PW127Es would be a plus for the short field profile rather than the four thirsty hairdryers on the 'jumbolilit' carrying just 60 passengers.   



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 24111 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 90):
it doesn't show a fast rail connection like in the old concept...are they doing away with it?

Not at all. The HSR link between Manila and CRK pops up quite often in the news. The latest word we have on it is that the JICA got someone to make a study.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=104046144&postcount=9429

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 90):
rather than the four thirsty hairdryers on the 'jumbolilit' carrying just 60 passengers.


Their 146 seats 94 passengers.

[Edited 2013-06-09 10:18:57]

User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 92, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 24077 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 91):
The latest word we have on it is that the JICA got someone to make a study.

Thanks again for that. From the link.....

Quote:
"The JV will also conduct a feasibility study, including the basic design parameters and a preliminary cost estimate. The preliminary feasibility study prepared by JICA last year envisioned a standard gauge line on an elevated alignment"

An analysis of alternatives between a fully elevated carriageway on piers vs tracks on built-up fill above maximum historical flood levels at selected segments along the PNR's right-of-way should show the safest, most economical way to achieve this vital connection to MNL.

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 91):
Their 146 seats 94 passengers.

I don't know if the CAAP would backpedal on their predecessor's conditions that only 83-seat Series-100s limited to 60 pax could be deployed there. It's the sort of brinksmanship that got the country into Cat II in the first place. Of course, even Avro RJ 100s will likely be allowed once the hill is cropped and the runway is long enough to accept EMB175s, CS100s and the smaller A & B narrowbodies. However, they might be looking outer medium term for that, at best.



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User currently offlineflyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 23885 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 88):

Undeveloped aerial view of Clark.....
Quoting Akiestar (Reply 91):

Not at all. The HSR link between Manila and CRK pops up quite often in the news. The latest word we have on it is that the JICA got someone to make a study.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...=9429

Thanks for the links   

I can see that plans have been aloft since 2005 and now nearly 8 years hence .... nothing has translated to reality   in the meanwhile how much is the increase in pax that NAIA has catered to in the past 8 years? Am pretty sure on the airside things are already stretched to their limits. Now even if we are optimistic that in the next 5 years CRK will be developed    will it not be too little too late?


User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4753 posts, RR: 43
Reply 94, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 23828 times:

With regards to the newly planned Saudi Arabia services by PAL using an all Y class configured A333, can someone please reveal how many Y class seats this aircraft type shall have on board?

Thanks


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 23801 times:

Quoting behramjee (Reply 94):
can someone please reveal how many Y class seats this aircraft type shall have on board?

PAL hasn't released the seat plan yet. But if this will be an all-economy A333, 2P might be operating this, not PR.

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Anyway, some news: PR is starting twice-weekly MNL-MWX on July 25!

http://www.philippineairlines.com/fl...mnlmwx_mwxmnl_timetable.jsp?to=MWX


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 96, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 23686 times:

Finally some sense denying 9W and WY slots as the situation just gets worse by the day.

CRK airport is off the menu for me whatever development there will be... I won't post it publicly so PM me if you want a very bizarre story.

This PQ/Z2 tie-up is interesting... Haven't followed the news when travelling. But MNL T4 has very properly coloured red passport control desks ready.  

That YS11 I will fly asap if it becomes real, kicked myself for not doing it with Interisland before. Has SEAIR I really gotten an ATR42 for ITI? That's what the inflight mag said. I thought they only had DO228s?



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 97, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 23647 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 96):
Has SEAIR I really gotten an ATR42 for ITI? That's what the inflight mag said. I thought they only had DO228s?

RP-C4201. I flew it 2 weeks ago myself. In basic Azerbaijan Airlines colours.



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User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 23602 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 95):
Anyway, some news: PR is starting twice-weekly MNL-MWX on July 25!

Interesting, this will be the first destination in Korea outside Seoul and Busan.



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User currently offlineairlinebuilder From Philippines, joined Nov 2012, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23377 times:

hey, everyone try booking online on PAL, their Middle East is already available on line and the seat plan are all economy A333s.

Ethiopian will be flying to Manila 3x a week via Hong Kong starting July 3. fyi


User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 100, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 23267 times:

Does ET have rights on the HKG-MNL-HKG route?

I tried booking it but came up empty handed.

If they do this would be a very good addition on the Star Alliance Map.



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 101, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 23269 times:

Quoting flyhigh@tom (Reply 93):
I can see that plans have been aloft since 2005 and now nearly 8 years hence .... nothing has translated to reality

Welcome to the Philippines!

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In fairness, it's only lately that the country has emerged from its huge debt problems and still has substantial domestic borrowings. Huge sectors of society live in poverty and they, perforce, will take precedence over any new, shiny, airport showcase.

Quoting flyhigh@tom (Reply 93):
Now even if we are optimistic that in the next 5 years CRK will be developed...will it not be too little too late?

If you'd check out the Clark Conference link in #74 above, you'd see the milestones they're working off of.


Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 96):
Has SEAIR I really gotten an ATR42 for ITI?

Is that Itbayat Island?...ITB is the official IATA airport code for RPLT per Wiki...and shows a 'Northsky Air' for it, but their page has been deleted.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 97):

RP-C4201. I flew it 2 weeks ago myself.

Great...the very first ATR42 on the Phil. register IINM. Must be fun climbing out and landing on ITB's 801m long runway  .

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 97):
In basic Azerbaijan Airlines colours.

I wonder how many of AZAL's five 42-500's they got (lease?)...will it be changed to Seair's livery? They now have a plane very well suited to plenty of secondary destinations    .....

http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=&R=1000nm%40MPH&MS=wls&MR=240&MX=540x540&PM=*
http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=&R=1000nm...0MPH&MS=wls&MR=240&MX=540x540&PM=*.

   HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY spotting!   



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User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 102, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 23344 times:

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 99):

Hey, thanks for the update! I tried doing this just a few days ago, but the seat maps weren't available yet at the time.

Note that PALs all economy A333s will be 9-abreast and according to my my quick headcount there were a total of 379 seats! Compare this to 436 seats at Cebu Pacific.

/Alex



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User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 23303 times:

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 102):

Or even as much as 414 seats according to Airline route update.

What I don't understand though, is why PAL plan to use an A340 to AUH. Shouldn't it be an all-economy configured A330 to Abu Dhabi aswell?



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 23208 times:

Quoting KL808 (Reply 100):
Does ET have rights on the HKG-MNL-HKG route?

I tried booking it but came up empty handed.

As I have said previously, they do not.


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 23127 times:

PR's new in-flight Wi-Fi service has a name: Philippine Airlines InAir

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...866.160470.117387315866&type=1


User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 997 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 23056 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 104):
Quoting KL808 (Reply 100):
Does ET have rights on the HKG-MNL-HKG route?

I tried booking it but came up empty handed.

As I have said previously, they do not.

I'm not even able to find MNL as a destination on ET's website. Doesn't make it easier to book a flight then!



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 107, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 22913 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 101):
Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 96):
Has SEAIR I really gotten an ATR42 for ITI?

Is that Itbayat Island?...ITB is the official IATA airport code for RPLT per Wiki...and shows a 'Northsky Air' for it, but their page has been deleted.

ITI is the airline actually. They fly it on MNL-ELN for the resorts.



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 108, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 22875 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 107):
ITI is the airline actually.

Could it be the former Interisland Airlines then?.....

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Hmmn...makes one wonder which actual version of the ATR-42 they're flying    .

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 107):
They fly it on MNL-ELN for the resorts.

El Nido, Palawan (ENI)?.....

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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 109, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 22817 times:

Found a few nice photos of ENI and ITI.....

http://www.watchobs.com/pics/travel/ElNidoAirportPan.jpg
http://www.watchobs.com/pics/travel/ElNidoAirportPan.jpg

View of the ramp...  .
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http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/38663299.jpg

Remote stand.....
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http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slide...val-at-el-nido-airport-el-nido.jpg

Ramp from taxiway...  ...
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http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/43055325.jpg

The ground support equipment...  ...
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http://wowislands.com/photos/ipap-ph...-palawan-philippines%20%288%29.jpg

The "million-miler" lounge...  ...
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http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slide...ounge-el-nido-airport--el-nido.jpg   

Now I get it.....Island Transvoyager Inc...quite a mouthful...  ...

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Their hotel shuttle in front of the exotic terminal...  ...

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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 110, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 22760 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 109):
Found a few nice photos of ENI and ITI.....

Yeah, the photos are way outdated. ENI runway is concrete as well is the apron. The hammock in their 'lounge' is still there and I used it personally. As well the ladies and the carabao. The ladies will sing a Palawan song when you arrive or board.

 



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User currently offlinePRFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 22756 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 110):
The "million-miler" lounge...  ...
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http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slide...ounge-el-nido-airport--el-nido.jpg   

That's way better than PR's Mabuhay Lounge at T2.      


User currently offlineFlyingGoat From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 22741 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 109):

That is awesome. Man, I miss the Philippines.


I'd love to see a west coast USA to CEB route eventually, but that will probably never happen.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 113, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 22538 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 101):
Is that Itbayat Island?...ITB is the official IATA airport code for RPLT per Wiki...and shows a 'Northsky Air' for it, but their page has been deleted.
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 107):
ITI is the airline actually. They fly it on MNL-ELN for the resorts.

ITI is indeed Island Transvoyager Inc. I believe they own resorts also in ELN. Part of old SEAIR, now SEAIR I.



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22295 times:

So the new Laguindingan Airport in Cagayan de Oro will be opening today! I presume it will inherit CGY from Lumbia, but no ICAO code has been issued yet. Instead, the new airport has the temporary code RP02.

User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 115, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 22109 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 110):
Yeah, the photos are way outdated. ENI runway is concrete as well is the apron.

I hope they don't spoil the natural beauty of the place with too much construction.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 110):
ladies and the carabao

Great name for the singing group  .

Quoting PRFlyer (Reply 111):
That's way better than PR's Mabuhay Lounge at T2.

Calling PR.....

Quoting FlyingGoat (Reply 112):

That is awesome. Man, I miss the Philippines.

Thank you.

Quoting FlyingGoat (Reply 112):
I'd love to see a west coast USA to CEB route eventually, but that will probably never happen.

There used to be direct PR 747 international flights to Cebu but I cannot recall from where.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 113):
Part of old SEAIR, now SEAIR I.

Glad that Seair (in a way) now has an ATR42...hope someone snaps some nice pics of it at ENI or elsewhere and post those here. Wish that Seair I and others acquire more to fly in these islands.


Quoting Akiestar (Reply 114):
So the new Laguindingan Airport in Cagayan de Oro will be opening today!

Yep. Photo of PR docked and 5J taxiing out in the distance.....


https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/7309_10151680745844683_93860476_n.jpg

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 114):
I presume it will inherit CGY from Lumbia, but no ICAO code has been issued yet. Instead, the new airport has the temporary code RP02.

Isn't it CDO? Anyway, what is needed there more is the ILS.

Another interesting snippet from Flightglobal is this PR bird in the assembly line.....

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http://www.flightglobal.com/Assets/GetAsset.aspx?ItemID=51112

.....a subtle hint of things to come?.....

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http://www.aviationweek.com/media/im...tion/Miscellaneous/777X_Boeing.jpg

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User currently offlinePRFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22086 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 115):
Quoting PRFlyer (Reply 111):
That's way better than PR's Mabuhay Lounge at T2.

Calling PR.....

They probably heard us. PR is renovating both domestic and International lounges.

https://www1.mabuhaymiles.com/index.php/program-news/news/mabuhay-lounge-renovation/

Mabuhay Lounge Renovation

As part of our efforts to provide you with a better lounge experience, we shall be renovating the Mabuhay Lounge International starting 15 June 2013. As such, may we invite you to join us at the following locations while waiting for your boarding during these hours:



3:00 a.m. – 10:30 p.m. – Temporary Lounge beside Boarding Gate N6

5:00 p.m. - 1:00 a.m. – Mabuhay Lounge entrance across Boarding Gate S2



Likewise, the Mabuhay Lounge Domestic will be closed from 5:00 pm to 1:00 am as we are progressively enhancing the lounge experience. We have reserved an area at Ya Kun Kaya Toast Café for you to partake of snacks as you wait for your boarding.


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 117, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22056 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 115):
Glad that Seair (in a way) now has an ATR42...hope someone snaps some nice pics of it at ENI or elsewhere and post those here.

As you might have noticed, I'm usually mostly active in the tripreports section of the forums. Expect soon a full report on that Filipino ATR-42  



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User currently offlinePRFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 118, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 22009 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 115):
Another interesting snippet from Flightglobal is this PR bird in the assembly line.....

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http://www.flightglobal.com/Assets/GetAsset.aspx?ItemID=51112

Devilfish, as someone pointed out in PPSG, this is a photo of RP-C7775. If you enlarge it, the banner says "Proudly Building the third 777". Is there something that Flightglobal is hinting about? A new order perhaps?


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 119, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 21882 times:

Quoting PRFlyer (Reply 116):
They probably heard us. PR is renovating both domestic and International lounges.

Way to go...   .

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 117):
As you might have noticed, I'm usually mostly active in the tripreports section of the forums. Expect soon a full report on that Filipino ATR-42

I do not go there often...but I'll keep an eye out for your report.

Quoting PRFlyer (Reply 118):
Devilfish, as someone pointed out in PPSG, this is a photo of RP-C7775. If you enlarge it, the banner says "Proudly Building the third 777". Is there something that Flightglobal is hinting about? A new order perhaps?

I know...the timing could be the hint...them showing the photo again during PAS. May be alluding to PR's interest in the 777X...or am I reading too much into it?



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User currently offlineairlinebuilder From Philippines, joined Nov 2012, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 21895 times:

instead of speculating, I suggest to looking forward to an update on the 4 A340s for PAL, the first one has already arrived if I am not mistaken, as for the remaining 3, can anyone update as to there delivery dates? their mission? any interior pics?

Any plans for PAL to entertain at least 4 to 6 B7478i interim the 777x?


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 5
Reply 121, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 21892 times:

Last month, I was in MNL for a few weeks and kept seeing this ATR-42 flying in and out of MNL. I could not get a tail number, but it had a solid navy blue tail and all white fuselage. I could not see any titles. Is this the SEAir a/c?

User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 122, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 21872 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 121):
I was in MNL for a few weeks and kept seeing this ATR-42 flying in and out of MNL. I could not get a tail number, but it had a solid navy blue tail and all white fuselage. I could not see any titles. Is this the SEAir a/c?

Yes, RP-C4201. Basic Azerbaijan Airlines colours. It was mentioned a few posts above by me.



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User currently offlinejetblue777 From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 1451 posts, RR: 1
Reply 123, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 21652 times:

If you guys are wondering what 5J's A330 look like on the inside, they posted some pictures and videos on their facebook page.

http://www.philippineairlinepromos.c...-now-viewable-on-our-live-event-pa



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 124, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 21518 times:

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 102):
Note that PALs all economy A333s will be 9-abreast and according to my my quick headcount there were a total of 379 seats!

Those must be the 235T interim delivery version as the full HGW version won't be available till 2015. Or maybe, PR has decided to limit the seat count for their Australian, Hawaiian, Japanese and other markets.


Quoting CityAirline (Reply 103):
Or even as much as 414 seats according to Airline route update.

That would be their 242T flagship for the Middle East LCC battles waged by PAL Express.

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 120):
instead of speculating

I wonder what this is.....

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 120):
Any plans for PAL to entertain at least 4 to 6 B7478i interim the 777x?
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Quoting crownvic (Reply 121):
I was in MNL for a few weeks and kept seeing this ATR-42 flying in and out of MNL. I could not get a tail number, but it had a solid navy blue tail and all white fuselage.

Am most interested about the c/n and previous regs, if available.

Quoting jetblue777 (Reply 123):
If you guys are wondering what 5J's A330 look like on the inside, they posted some pictures and videos on their facebook page.

Thanks for the link. Like this best...  ...

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http://images.scribblelive.com/2013/...14-9841-4ca9-9467-679d16030ddb.jpg

.....though not sure if she'd be on the A333 LH seat for 5J.   



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User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4253 posts, RR: 51
Reply 125, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 21431 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 124):

Am most interested about the c/n and previous regs, if available.

msn 689 ex Azerbaijan AIrlines 4K-AZ53



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 126, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 21392 times:

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 102):
Note that PALs all economy A333s will be 9-abreast and according to my my quick headcount there were a total of 379 seats! Compare this to 436 seats at Cebu Pacific.

I was told there are 414 seats.

Quoting airlinebuilder (Reply 120):
instead of speculating, I suggest to looking forward to an update on the 4 A340s for PAL, the first one has already arrived if I am not mistaken, as for the remaining 3, can anyone update as to there delivery dates?

According to SSC, all four A340s are now in MNL.

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 124):
Or maybe, PR has decided to limit the seat count for their Australian, Hawaiian, Japanese and other markets.

These markets however are relatively premium compared to the rest of the PR network, so I don't think it would make a lot of sense for PR to send all-economy A330s to these destinations.


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 127, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 21553 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 125):
msn 689 ex Azerbaijan AIrlines 4K-AZ53

Thank you very much. It's this one then.....

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   Very nice bird...wish they would get the other...    ...

I take it they concreted the 1,000m long second runway instead of the 750m R/W 12/30.....

http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=11...94140053;111981677;0;76117;49673;0


Quoting Akiestar (Reply 126):
These markets however are relatively premium compared to the rest of the PR network, so I don't think it would make a lot of sense for PR to send all-economy A330s to these destinations.

Hence the lower seat count, achieved by adding a premium economy section...or putting in their full-service, two-class layout to be operated by PR itself.





[Edited 2013-06-16 22:37:28]


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User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 21392 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 126):
Quoting CityAirline (Reply 102):
Note that PALs all economy A333s will be 9-abreast and according to my my quick headcount there were a total of 379 seats! Compare this to 436 seats at Cebu Pacific.

I was told there are 414 seats.

Yes, read my next post (#103):

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 103):
Or even as much as 414 seats according to Airline route update.



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 129, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 21205 times:

Finally, the plane I dream would make it to these shores is out...  ...

http://www.embraer.com/PublishingImages/press-releases/fly_new_175.jpg
http://www.embraer.com/PublishingImages/press-releases/fly_new_175.jpg

80 seats with an extra row...EIS in 2020...  ...

Hopefully, a local airline would find it a good fit for their operations.   



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User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 130, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 21021 times:

PAL has now released the Doha schedule and opened reservations:

PR652 MNL1330 – 1800DOH 333 x1
PR653 DOH1930 – 0930MNL 333 x1

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 77):
Now only DOH and DXB remain.

And now only DXB remain out of the six announced routes to the Middle East.

Also, PAL has changed the aircraft dedicated to AUH from an A343 to an all-economy A333. Reasonable!

/Alex



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User currently offlinePRFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 20763 times:

ET cancels HKG-MNL and BKK-SGN. They were supposed to start service HKG-MNL on 01Jul.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/06/19/e...%2Bmedia&utm_campaign=tweets130619


User currently offlineCityAirline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 132, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 20758 times:

Quoting PRFlyer (Reply 131):
ET cancels HKG-MNL and BKK-SGN. They were supposed to start service HKG-MNL on 01Jul.

Not surprised! I never really understood these routes. Didn't count on them lasting too long either.

/Alex



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 133, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 20567 times:

Back to our dear, old Terminal 1...it seems she is finally on her way for a makeover...    ...

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http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...undergo-facelift-2015-apec-meeting

Quote:
"MANILA, Philippines - Architectural and design firm Budji-Royal was awarded the P1.6-billion contract to redesign the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) in preparation for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) leaders’ meeting in 2015.

Royal Pineda, Budji-Royal architectural and design firm president, told The STAR: 'It’s the spirit of bayanihan at work to fix the country’s airport, dubbed in 2011 as the worst airport in Asia.'

The team is composed of Pineda and designers Budji Layug and Kenneth Cobonpue with the Leandro V. Locsin Partners architectural firm as the 'Architect of Record.'

Pineda said the team would start working on the project within the year and strive to finish it by 2015 in time for the APEC meeting.

In 2011, the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) also tapped the same team for the NAIA facelift, but the project did not push through following a change in leadership at the agency."



Those sexy, expansive canopies on tall, slanted columns could be tricky during high winds and seismic events. Hoping they have enough time and resources to do more than just a cosmetic Botox treatment for the aging dame.  


Now, how about a new terminal at the PVH area? They would need plenty of space for all those planes they're ordering!



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User currently offlineflyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 134, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 20571 times:

A quick question on 5J's planned A330 services to dubai.....

One of my colleagues booked a flight for Dec. the ticket says dubai international airport. It does not say DXB. requesting to know if it is going to be DXB or DWC? Repeated requests to cebu pacific on this regard have remained unanswered...even on their Fb page.

If its going to be DWC instead of DXB that will be a big bummer   Its gonna cost atleast 250 dhirams for a taxi ride from Jebel ali to downtown dubai and another 100 dhirams to sharjah!

Recently there has been a trend of low cost and charter operations slowly being shunted out of DXB to DWC.

To those unfamiliar with DWC..wiki link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_W...-_Al_Maktoum_International_Airport


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 135, posted (1 year 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 20279 times:

Re #85, here's the latest on offer of El Capitan's remaining 51% stake in PR.....

http://business.inquirer.net/128803/mvp-group-not-interested-in-pal

In another report, SMC had said they were not going after those shares.


Blog reported a rather old A340 had arrived at MNL as one of the stopgap planes leased by PR...  ...

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A poster commented it had undergone a C-check, and would need interior refurbishment.


Lastly, three more conceptual images of NAIA 1's proposed renovation.....

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http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/files/2013/06/t0623thumbsup-naia_1.jpg

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http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/files/2013/06/t0623thumbsup-naia_2.jpg

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http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/files/2013/06/t0623thumbsup-naia_3.jpg

http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/109763...orate-with-locsin-in-naia-makeover


Hopefully, there would be an adequate number of slots in the parking structure, and more ground parking spaces for growth. Couldn't ascertain whether the elevated structure in the other photo was the LRT spur/AGT...or if indeed there would be one...    .



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User currently offlinecityairline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 136, posted (1 year 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 19929 times:

According to the following link (that someone posted in another thread), PAL's new A333s will as we know be delivered in two different configurations. One singleclass version seating 414, and one that apparently will seat 18 in C, while 350 in three different types of Y-class. Does anyone else find it odd that these lower-density A333s will seat a total of 368? Something must be wrong!

http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...ne-airlines-new-aircraft-four.html



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User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (1 year 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 19789 times:

Quoting cityairline (Reply 136):
Does anyone else find it odd that these lower-density A333s will seat a total of 368? Something must be wrong!

Not at all. As far as I know, these lower-density A333s will have C, Y+, Y and Y- (Econolight, but with a tangible product) installed. Depending on how PR prices each class, this may work in spite of competition from 5J.


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 138, posted (1 year 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 19081 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 137):
Depending on how PR prices each class, this may work in spite of competition from 5J.

Its president tries hard to emphasize that PR is not comparable to an LCC.....

http://business.inquirer.net/130945/...ign-airlines-eyed-to-invest-in-pal

Quote:
"He added that PAL could not be compared to a low-cost carrier, but PAL could be very competitive in terms of pricing because it has in its fleet bigger aircraft that could seat more passengers. He noted that fuel consumption and labor cost were almost the same if an airline operator were to operate a 240-seater plane and a smaller 170-seater aircraft, implying PAL’s advantage in terms of generating revenues from its bigger capacity."


.....and is eyeing a strategic partnership with either ANA or Emirates.....

"San Miguel Corp. is in talks to bring in a major foreign firm as a strategic partner in flag carrier Philippine Airlines and the prospective partners include Tokyo-based All Nippon Airways (ANA) and Dubai-based Emirates Airline.

Inquirer sources said SMC was in talks with ANA on a prospective partnership in PAL while some exploratory talks have been conducted with Emirates.

SMC president Ramon Ang, who is also president of PAL, confirmed that these foreign airlines have expressed interest to invest in PAL and that SMC was open to taking any of them as a partner.

Ang said PAL would welcome a strategic investor and that a partnership could happen 'within this year.'

[.....]

Ang said PAL would need to invest $1 billion more to become a very competitive regional airline, adding SMC could very well provide the money.

The PAL chief said the flag carrier was lucky because delivery period by aircraft manufacturers had narrowed to one to two years from five to seven years because of the economic problems in Europe and the United States. As such, he said PAL could embark on a 'very, very quick' refleeting program that, in turn, could allow the airline to unlock more operating efficiencies."



Meanwhile, the DOTC sees the completion of the P13.25B CNS/ATM Systems Development Project by 2015.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/201...tion-p13.25-b-aviation-system-2015

Quote:
"MANILA, Philippines - The Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) expects the completion of the P13.25 billion world-class communication, navigation and surveillance system by 2015 or before the end of the term of President Aquino.

Transportation Secretary Joseph Emilio Abaya said the joint venture between Sumitomo Corp. of Japan and Thales Australia Ltd. has committed to complete the Communications, Navigation and Surveillance/Air Traffic Management (CNS/ATM) Systems Development Project Package–I by November 2015.

'I don’t expect any further delay. I know the whole project is estimated to be done by November 2015,' Abaya said.

The CNS/ATM Systems Development Project was first conceptualized in accordance with the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Global Air Navigation Plan, and would replace the aging vital communications, surveillance, and air traffic control equipment at selected airports nationwide.

The DOTC awarded the two work packages to Sumitomo-Thales joint venture."



This should pave the way for safer and more efficient use of the country's airspace.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (1 year 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19057 times:

Didn't see this mentioned, but PR requested slots for a daily MNL-AMS-MNL with 777 in W13. Anyone know how likly this is to materialise (as slot can be returned)?

User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4753 posts, RR: 43
Reply 140, posted (1 year 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19038 times:

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 130):
PAL has now released the Doha schedule and opened reservations:

PR652 MNL1330 – 1800DOH 333 x1
PR653 DOH1930 – 0930MNL 333 x1

DOH launch being pushed back for a bit...until S14 I bet and instead DXB-MNL is being launched with these same timings !


User currently offlinecityairline From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 141, posted (1 year 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 18959 times:

Quoting behramjee (Reply 140):
DOH launch being pushed back for a bit...until S14 I bet and instead DXB-MNL is being launched with these same timings !

So I've heard. Although are you sure it's just being pushed back? Because I noticed Qatar is keeping their second daily MNL as a parallel to the new CRK.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/06/24/qr-mnlcrk-w13/

And limitations only allow for two daily services between DOH-MNL, meaning that if PR pushes through later with their Doha serivce, QR will either have to step away or wish for new negotiations to be held...

/Alex



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4777 posts, RR: 1
Reply 142, posted (1 year 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 18877 times:

Quoting cityairline (Reply 141):
And limitations only allow for two daily services between DOH-MNL, meaning that if PR pushes through later with their Doha serivce

PR got six grandfathered frequencies of the eight daily services allowed for the Philippine side. 5J also wanted those and is seeking reallocation of the entitlements.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/5j-mulls-doha.html

The odds of PR acquiescing are slim...but given that they initially must spread their ordered A333s thinly over several planned ME routes until they have the flexibility...would they be amenable to sharing those allotments with 5J?

http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/photogallery/big/800x600_1349164643_A330-300_PAL.JPG


Of course, such a split could lead to a bitter fare war...and the annexation of already very scarce slots at NAIA.   



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User currently offlineSYDAIRPORTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 143, posted (1 year 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 18862 times:

with the PR flights MNL/DRW/BNE presume PR can't sell DRW/BNE in isolation, so how does it justify empty seats DRW/BNE ?

Ok, so many passengers continue MNL/BNE but some must only fly the MNL/DRW sectors, so for every one of them, there must then be an empty DRW/BNE seat.


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 144, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 18804 times:

Quoting SYDAIRPORTS (Reply 143):
with the PR flights MNL/DRW/BNE presume PR can't sell DRW/BNE in isolation, so how does it justify empty seats DRW/BNE ?

The fare ex DRW is probably horrendously high ( I did a search a while back) 1) discourage people from buying, and 2) to subsidise the empty seats DRW-BNE/PER


User currently offlinejpen4314 From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 18706 times:

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 144):

No, actually, whether you do a search on Kayak 2 weeks from now or 2 months from now, or 1 week before Christmas, it's consistently the lowest fare ex DRW to MNL, beating even Jetstar. Ex-MNL to DRW, it is only marginally more expensive if not on par.
Not sure if these are regular fares, or extended promos to promote the route.

Not sure about load factors, statistics for June onwards are still unavailable, April 2013 is the most recent one uploaded.
PR generally has loads of roughly 50%...
Although am unsure about the breakdown between SYD vs MEL which now have dedicated services rather than a triangular routing.</body></html>"/>


User currently offlinejpen4314 From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 18710 times:

Also, PR also has heavy discounts on HKG fares ex DRW and BNE in the off-peak (e.g. less than $700 on a Kayak search ex-BNE, but a 2 two-stop routing via DRW and MNL).

User currently offlineflyhigh@tom From India, joined Sep 2001, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 147, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18333 times:

Is this old news or a development thats been in the offing for a while now?

I did not know 5j was ever planning on india ops? personally i don't think they will succeed where PAL failed simply because unlike Philippines where literally the gateway to the country is MNL....India does not have a gateway to Philippines. you have pax equally spread between DEL, BOM, MAA, BLR, HYD, COK which are all equally important. No wonder carriers like SIA, TG and Malaysian are the ones that carry the bulk of Indians traveling to Philippines and vice versa.

http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...cific-gets-clearance-to-india.html

Cebu Pacific Gets Clearance to India, Zest Cleared for Saudi Arabia


User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18037 times:

Well, it's still better than nothing: the EU will officially take PR off the blacklist on Friday! http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...an-on-pal-flights-starting-july-12

Now I wonder if 2P is covered under this as well (which could see PR resuming its interline arrangement with KL), or not. (EDIT: They are not.)

[Edited 2013-07-10 05:44:45]

User currently offlineAkiestar From Philippines, joined May 2009, 784 posts, RR: 0
Reply 149, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18035 times:

In addition to the blacklist news, PR is currently trending on Twitter. According to Miguel Camus of the Philippine Daily Inquirer, PR might mount flights to the EU as early as September or October, with LON (still not sure if LHR or LGW, though I presume PR still has its LHR slots), CDG, AMS and FCO as the most likely candidates.

Now, three of those four cities are SkyTeam hubs. Please take PR, SkyTeam! 

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Anyway, more PR news: one of the 77Ws is now outfitted with GSMConneX for both mobile and Wi-Fi services.

http://www.etravelblackboardasia.com...ht-gsmconnex-connectivity-hardware

Right now I hope OnAir, when offered, will be cheap.


User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 150, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 17925 times:

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 149):
In addition to the blacklist news, PR is currently trending on Twitter. According to Miguel Camus of the Philippine Daily Inquirer, PR might mount flights to the EU as early as September or October, with LON (still not sure if LHR or LGW, though I presume PR still has its LHR slots), CDG, AMS and FCO as the most likely candidates.

When Philippine Airlines last operated flights to London, were they flying into Gatwick or Heathrow? I read an article not to long ago that Gatwick was trying to increase its flight network to Asia and specifically wanted a service to the Philippines. I also read that Philippine Airlines had recently applied for slots at Gatwick. Not sure if there is any truth to any of that.

This good news triggers even more good news in that PAL will no longer have to lease out their Boeing 777 aircraft as these can now be deployed to Europe and I am sure that we will probably hear an announcement hopefully by the end of the year that PAL has decided on a new long range aircraft either the A350, B787 or B777X.

http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...pine-airlines-removed-from-eu.html