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DAL Unveils Newly Renovated Terminal To Employees  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3153 posts, RR: 10
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks ago) and read 10472 times:

Last Wednesday April 10th the first 11 gates of the new terminal at Dallas Love Field were unveiled to airport employees. A whole new array of restaurants, concession stands and an art gallery are included in this 5 year renovation. Linked below are 15 pictures to look at to give you a glimpse. This new terminal section opens to the public today April 16th. It will nice to have this renovation well underway prior to the lifting of restrictions of the Wrong Amendment.

Courtesy: WFAA-TV

Dallas Love Field Unveils Newly Renovated Terminal To Employees

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Dalla...rminal-to-employees-202378611.html

15 Photos

http://www.wfaa.com/news/slideshows/...--202380721.html?gallery=y&c=y

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User currently offlinedfwcre8tive From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9829 times:

Here's another article with video/photos:

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/a...-show-off-new-terminal-tuesday.ece

[Edited 2013-04-16 14:12:48]

User currently offlinetxjim From United States of America, joined May 2008, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9711 times:

Although I applaud the new terminal, the old wing will be missed. Many memories from childhood travel. Anyone remember the AA eagle bust by the end gates?

[Edited 2013-04-16 15:11:33]

[Edited 2013-04-16 15:11:47]

User currently offlinealfa164 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 694 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9657 times:

Quoting txjim (Reply 2):
Although I applaud the new terminal, the old wing will be missed. Many memories from childhood travel. Anyone remember the AA eagle bust by the end gates?

Heck... I miss the old Braniff monorail!


User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 9075 times:

Here are some photos and a video from SWA of the terminal in use. Very nice terminal!

http://swamedia.com/photos/opening-d...w-terminal-at-dallas-love-field-21
http://swamedia.com/videos/dallas-lo...ield-new-concourse-gates-1-12-open



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User currently offlinemilemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8781 times:

Looks great and a definite improvement over the old facility. As long as its not paid for with any of my property or sales taxes I'm happy. Nice of the city of Dallas to build a new terminal for the near exclusive use by 1 airline.

User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 959 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8551 times:
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Quoting milemaster (Reply 5):
Nice of the city of Dallas to build a new terminal for the near exclusive use by 1 airline.

Just a note, that 1 airline spent a whole lot of its own money on this terminal.


User currently offlineinfiniti329 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 874 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8072 times:

Quoting milemaster (Reply 5):
Nice of the city of Dallas to build a new terminal for the near exclusive use by 1 airline.

Well seeing how its only dallas airport that the city sees any revenue from they are kind of on the hook to help keep it up to prestige. Its not like other airlines are dying to fly to DAL anyways.. Im pretty sure your tax dollars helped pay for it... so honestly quit the whining

[Edited 2013-04-17 03:50:42]

User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 13092 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7548 times:

The most interesting thing is the power outlets in the seating area.

Outside of that, just another terminal. Nice, but nothing special...



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User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3877 posts, RR: 32
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5570 times:

Quoting milemaster (Reply 5):
Nice of the city of Dallas to build a new terminal for the near exclusive use by 1 airline.

The City of Dallas didn't do it to be "nice." The City of Dallas (and WN) spent all this money to significantly improve Love Field because it was a requirement of the Five-party agreement to resolve the Wright Amendment issues which led to the Wright Amendment Reform Act of 2006. Prior to the reform act, Love Field didn't even have a PFC. It was so old that it was already paid for and the last interior refurbishments had been done in 1990. It was (and still will be) a much cheaper airport to to operate out of than DFW.

The City of Fort Worth, DFW, and AA felt this put them at an unfair disadvantage and they were the ones who pushed for these improvements that have been made at Love Field.

LoneStarMike


User currently offlinemilemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5388 times:

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 7):
Well seeing how its only dallas airport that the city sees any revenue from they are kind of on the hook to help keep it up to prestige. Its not like other airlines are dying to fly to DAL anyways.. Im pretty sure your tax dollars helped pay for it... so honestly quit the whining

That doesn't even make sense.

Anyway, the new DAL looks great!


User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 959 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4706 times:
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Sometimes I wonder what drives people to post against capitalism. WN and the City of Dallas and Dallas county and the Feds. provided funds for this project. What does it do for the City/County? It provides positive cash flow and will pay for itself in very little time. What does it do for WN? In the whole scheme of things not alot. They were/are doing fine in the old terminal. In all actuality this knew terminal is going to make life for WN in DAL harder.

There were alot of rules that were grandfathered under the old terminal/operations that will/have expired due to the new opening. EPA rules, OSHA rules, City ordinances, County ordinances, Federal laws. I know you guys and gals don't see it but the folks working downstairs sure do. Alot of it is very simple things, seatbelts on all self powered equipt., orange safety vests everywhere, entry/exit points to the terminal, and it goes on and on. Trust me here, in the big picture WN will do better in the new terminal but when it comes to general operations, it will be more difficult (for a while).


User currently onlinepar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7819 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

Quoting LoneStarMike (Reply 9):

The City of Fort Worth, DFW, and AA felt this put them at an unfair disadvantage and they were the ones who pushed for these improvements that have been made at Love Field.

So in effect raise the cost of transportation to citizens at DAL because they wanted DAL to be as nice as DFW?
Cool


User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3877 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4357 times:

Quoting par13del (Reply 12):
So in effect raise the cost of transportation to citizens at DAL because they wanted DAL to be as nice as DFW?

A few months before the agreement over the Wright Amendment, there was an article in the Dallas Morning News about DFW possibly having to ask the airlines using DFW for more money due to projected revenue shortfalls at DFW.

D/FW may have to tap carriers' wallets
Airport projects shortfall, and tenants are required to chip in
February 3, 2006


Quote:
American Airlines Inc. and other carriers may have to kick in more money to
cover expenses at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport because of a
projected revenue shortfall, officials said Thursday.

The lighter revenue, expected to be as much as $39 million below
expectations, or 6 percent, is largely the result of airlines cutting back
their schedules at D/FW.

The deficit also reflects American's later-than-expected move into D/FW's
new international terminal, as well as higher energy costs for the airport.

American is by far the largest carrier at D/FW, accounting for 86 percent of
passenger traffic.

But the carrier is relocating some of its service to Dallas Love Field to
compete directly against Southwest Airlines Co. American also has
temporarily canceled some flights to lower fuel expenses.

Those cuts, along with reductions in service by ATA Airlines Inc., AirTran
Airways Inc. and Northwest Airlines Inc., will cause landing fee revenue to
be $20.2 million less than expected.

Landing fees account for 33 percent of D/FW's revenue - the airport's
largest revenue source.

After the new international Terminal D and the Skylink at DFW were built, (and DL de-hubbed DFW) AA's Cost per enplaned passenger at DFW was much higher than WN's cost per enplaned passenger at DAL. So it had nothing to do with wanting DAL to be as "nice" as DFW. It had everything to do with raising the costs of airlines using Love Field, so that would put DAL & DFW "on a more level playing field" with regards to operating costs for the airlines at both airports. And it was an idea pushed by DFW, AA, & the City of Fort Worth. Dallas & WN probably would have been just as happy to make minor (less costly) refurbishments at Love Field, but in a compromise, not every party is going to get everything they want. The City of Dallas & WN agreed to the compromise in exchange for the right to immediate through-ticketing and the ultimate repeal of the Wright Amendment in October 2014.

LoneStarMike


User currently onlinepar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7819 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Quoting LoneStarMike (Reply 13):
It had everything to do with raising the costs of airlines using Love Field, so that would put DAL & DFW "on a more level playing field" with regards to operating costs for the airlines at both airports.

Ok, but still raising the cost of DAL, not for DAL's benefit but for DFW. I thought this so called "leveling of the playing field" was already taken care of by the articial limits which were put on DAL to prevent expansion, as in carriers leaving DFW for DAL and its lower cost base, seem as if they got hit twice.


User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

Looks like they got rid of the map on the floor and the cowboy statue in the lobby of the terminal. I wish they had kept those.

User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 959 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3797 times:
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Quoting type-rated (Reply 15):
Looks like they got rid of the map on the floor and the cowboy statue in the lobby of the terminal. I wish they had kept those




Nope, they are both still there. They just aren't shown in the video. Have you ever looked at the statue from his right side. LOL.


User currently offlinejustplanenutz From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 566 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3651 times:

Any update on the People Mover to the DART station? It's been about a year since I last heard anything.

User currently offlinewilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

So will old concourse now be torn down?

User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 959 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3492 times:
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Quoting william (Reply 18):
So will old concourse now be torn down?

Eventually all of the old terminal will be demolished. The portion parallel to 13R/31L will remain until the rest of the new terminal is completed. Edit to say just the gates will be demolished, the main building remains.

[Edited 2013-04-21 19:06:03]

User currently offlinedeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Quoting justplanenutz (Reply 17):
Any update on the People Mover to the DART station? It's been about a year since I last heard anything.

The people mover money is being moved over to fund the extension of the new streetcar to Oak Cliff. That money will now be used to extend the line all the way to Bishop Arts (Zang and Davis).



http://oakcliffblog.dallasnews.com/2...car-line-to-near-bishop-arts.html/


User currently offlinealfa164 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 694 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3145 times:

Quoting deltaffindfw (Reply 20):
The people mover money is being moved over to fund the extension of the new streetcar to Oak Cliff. That money will now be used to extend the line all the way to Bishop Arts (Zang and Davis).

Now I really miss the old Braniff monorail!


User currently offlinejustplanenutz From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 566 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Quoting deltaffindfw (Reply 20):
The people mover money is being moved over to fund the extension of the new streetcar to Oak Cliff. That money will now be used to extend the line all the way to Bishop Arts (Zang and Davis).

I thought the $250mm APM was part of the settlement agreement and was funded by the Love Field PFC. No?


User currently offlinewilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

I have seen pics of this monorail, where did it go? Love was not that big back in the day.

Quoting alfa164 (Reply 21):
Now I really miss the old Braniff monorail!


User currently offlineskycub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

Quoting william (Reply 23):
I have seen pics of this monorail, where did it go? Love was not that big back in the day.

It linked a remote parking area with the Braniff terminal.


25 Post contains links and images dfwcre8tive : Latest photos: http://www.lovefieldmodernizationprogram.com/photos#tab
26 Post contains links dfwcre8tive : Here's some information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jetrail
27 jsnww81 : I grew up in Dallas and have always been fascinated by Love Field and its history (although I missed the pre-1974 "glory days" by almost a decade). I
28 737tdi : The tower cab is still there and will remain.
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