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User currently offlineBA-747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 983 times:

just heard on sky news that the black boxes have been found at WTC what information do u think will come from them?

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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 937 times:

I'm pretty skeptical that they would be found this soon, and even more that they would survive the collapse intact enough to be able to read. But we can be hopeful...

Charles


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 921 times:

Does that mean found as in "located" or "retrieved"?

Daniel


User currently offlineBA-747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 906 times:

i dont actually know i caught a bit from SKY news here in the uk and there was an american guy talkin about the black boxes he said one is very severly charred on the outside so i dont know if they have got them or just located them.

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 898 times:

Ah, OK. If they can actually tell it´s charred, they must have seen it.

You know, I thought if they located it but it´s under that great pile of rubble, that piece of knowledge might not help so much. And until they find their way to the centre of the pile, the ping might have stopped.
How long are the black boxes pinging anyway?

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineCVG-Mike From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 894 times:

According to CNN, the following black boxes have been found:

AA77 (Pentagon): Both the FDR and CVR.

UA93 (Pennsylvania): Only the FDR.

None at the WTC yet.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 880 times:

I recall that the pinging is supposed to last for a few weeks, maybe up to a month.

Charles


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 873 times:
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NBC's Bob Hager reports that custody of the CVR/FDRs in NTSB hands (from the Pentagon and Pennsylvania crashes) has been handed over to FBI.

Hager speculates that the quick handoff may indicate that there is nothing on the tapes, since they would otherwise be analyzing them closely for cockpit/engine/cabin noise, etc.


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6761 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 867 times:

I would not be surprised if the CVRs were switched off as soon as the terros got control of the aircraft...

Mandala499



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User currently offlinePoopsie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 859 times:

The black boxes are tested to survive a hell of a lot more then a building collapsing on them. They can survive fires in excess of 3000 degrees for days on end. They will find the boxes (eventually) and bomb the crap out of those pig f**kers!!!!

User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 841 times:
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Poopsie, please... let's keep this on a human level.

The keys here are the CVR recordings. Apparently, on at least one of the planes, the pilot's mike was kept open to Air Traffic Controllers, meaning that there's at least one tape that may be able to give us clues.

These people obviously knew the capabilities of these planes, so we can only assume that they knew how to turn the CVR's off.

I don't believe that FDR data will be as valuable - we know where these planes flew, how fast they were going, and where they crashed. FDR data here would be purely academic, in my opinion.


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 833 times:

Black boxes are not designed to withstand 200,000 tons of debris.

Daniel


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