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Irish 6/13: Airborne Dreaming  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12408 posts, RR: 37
Posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 26760 times:

Good morning folks and welcome and No. 6 of 2013. Hope this fine morning finds you well and enjoying a nice weekend!

There's not an awful lot to report this month; the first Aer Lingus Regional ATR72s will be coming shortly; we await news on the fate of Cityjet, which has apparently attracted two potential investors. The Summer season is now upon us and week by week, we should be seeing extra flights and additional frequencies on existing routes.

Here's the link to the last thread: Irish 5/13: Climbing Through The Turbulence (by kaitak Apr 3 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Enjoy!

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 26461 times:

Hi everyone . Just completed my Aer Lingus TR . Preview of the new wifi being launched next week I believe.

Tá áthas ar Aer Lingus fáilte ar bord a chur romhat / Aer Lingus is delighted to welcome you on board.

Aer Lingus A330 New Wifi Trial And TV Crew+Lounges (by OA260 Apr 21 2013 in Trip Reports)

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/EIAGP/file_zps53bcaca5.jpg

It will be interesting to see the uptake on this new product and its reliability. Also the shorthaul pricing is something that will be interesting. The service provider is quite a good one so I feel it will be a stable product.


User currently offlineDublinspotter From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 26320 times:

Hi,

One of my favourite trip reports about EI!!! Very informative and some nice terminal shots!  
It's a very easy flight to catch an A330 within Europe. I personally have travelled to Malaga but only on FR....  

I have to try out the A319's from BHD.

Dublinspotter  



Dublinspotter :)
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 26165 times:

Quoting Dublinspotter (Reply 2):
One of my favourite trip reports about EI!!! Very informative and some nice terminal shots!  
It's a very easy flight to catch an A330 within Europe. I personally have travelled to Malaga but only on FR....  

Thanks really glad you enjoyed it .   Next time you know what to book   The fares booked in advance are not that bad. Especially at the start and end of the season.

Good to see SNN - JFK back with DL from May .  


User currently offlineRandWKOP From Ireland, joined May 2012, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 26077 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):

I really like that view of the A330. The Wifi bubble actually spoils the fuselage a little.
Anyway I have been lurking here for about 2 years and finally decided to join. I have no connections in the industry. I have a question on these short hops. Are all the 330s cycled through in order to manage the number of cycles used up on these trips?


User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4085 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 26062 times:

That's a nice picture of EI-DAA, which I was on twice last week on a BOS-DUB-BOS trip.

User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days ago) and read 25877 times:

Did EXS 377 from Murcia to BFS divert into DUB last night?.
Surely this runway issue at BFS was sorted or was there a different reason for the divert?


User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 25799 times:
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Quoting RandWKOP (Reply 4):
I have a question on these short hops. Are all the 330s cycled through in order to manage the number of cycles used up on these trips?

All airlines would tend to rotate aircraft through their route network in order to even out the cycles on each aircraft. You can sometimes spot an odd aircraft change which can be done to reduce/maintain cycles. Airlines would plan out their maintenance schedule months in advance based on estimated cycles achieved. Using the EI AGP route as an example, EI may decide to stop using 1 unit on this route in May in order to keep its cycles on track for end of month hanger visit.


User currently offlinenightfox365 From Ireland, joined Jul 2011, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 25775 times:

Just to prove what Eagleboy said, I was at the airport, and EI-ELA had just come out of the Hanger and towed around to the gate, to start service again. That was last Friday. And if EI-ELA did that Malaga route recently, means they were using that route to get the cycles to where they want them to be before each Hanger visit.


Flown on: bae146, bn2 islander, 741, A320, A321, A333, A332, MD80, 738
User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 25747 times:

The A330-300 takes over AGP in early May.

Jet 2 did diverted to DUB last night because the shorter runway was closed for preperation of works taking place on the main runway, closes between 22.00-22.30 daily but Jet 2 were running 10 minutes late, DAA need to teach BFS how to carry out runway works and cause as little problems for carriers as possible as BFS seem to go out of their way to make problems for Jet2.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 25731 times:

Quoting RandWKOP (Reply 4):

I really like that view of the A330.

Yes me too I like that shot.

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 5):
That's a nice picture of EI-DAA, which I was on twice last week on a BOS-DUB-BOS trip.

Did you have a good experience?

Quoting nightfox365 (Reply 8):
And if EI-ELA did that Malaga route recently,

Yes ELA brought me back AGP-DUB. Was nice to get the A330-300  



Not a good day for LH at DUB but EI cleaning up with rebooks .

Lufthansa cancels flights to and from Ireland

German airline Lufthansa has cancelled dozens of flights to and from the UK and Ireland due to strike action.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0422/383...ncels-flights-to-and-from-ireland/


User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 25622 times:

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 9):
DAA need to teach BFS how to carry out runway works and cause as little problems for carriers as possible as BFS seem to go out of their way to make problems for Jet2.

Totally agree,and even with the aircraft running late by 10 minutes,surely works could have been held up for those few minutes to allow the flight to land.Overall great customer service by the management of BFS,not only to their customer but to the passengers as well,and then they(BFS) wonder why there is such a lot of people using DUB.


User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 25387 times:

Quoting Nibog (Reply 11):

I have to ask why these works are not carried out until all aircraft arrive its not as if the airport is busy all night, when DUB close the runway at nights for works they wait until 23.00-23.30 when most flights are in and then use 16 for the last few flights before reopening for EI T/A arrivals. Managment at BFS need to get a grip and lean how to run an airport.

[Edited 2013-04-22 10:52:50]

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 25327 times:

Quoting RandWKOP (Reply 4):
Anyway I have been lurking here for about 2 years and finally decided to join.

Meant to say welcome by the way . Im sure everyone here looks forward to your input in future.  


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One thing I have noticed about the pre ordering of meals is that the offerings sometimes do not reflect the time of day . For instance on some of my future bookings I see that on some early morning flights there is a choice of 1: Irish Breakfast 2 : Seared Beef 3: Chicken Noodle.

However on an evening flight some only offer Irish breakfast and nothing else even at 7/8/9 at night ! Who wants breakfast at 8pm? I know there might be a few but why not offer hot wraps or at least the salads. Is this a technical issue that it does not recognise the flight time or is it just bad planning? I noticed this on my DUB-AGP flight also . Only salads were available at 7am but no Irish breakfast.

[Edited 2013-04-22 11:36:06]

User currently offlineEI104 From Ireland, joined Aug 2010, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 25071 times:

Folks, for the last I don't how many years I have read this forum and especially the trip reports.

I work within the aviation leasing industry (firstly I am amazed how many people know whats happening on this forum even when NDA's are signed and the info is still not made public) and have I to do a LOT of travel with work, mostly long haul and lucky enough in F or if not available J. I am gold with EI, BA, EY Gold Elite, EK Platinum and UA Premier 1K, I don't do Sky Team.

To me the best airline out of Dublin is EK especially in F, all my Asia trips are with EK however EY are getting close. EK need a lounge in DUB ASAP as the EY lounge is fantastic especially the breakfast, I don't eat onboard until an hour before landing in AUH when I order my steak sandwich. Yesterday I flew stateside to SFO via Washington with United on UA127 in Business First and I have to say job well done, excellent service, lie flat seats (take heed EI), good food, CO cabin crew sorry flight attendants who are very different to UA cabin crew who are not passenger friendly!! and what wins it for me with United are the Ice Cream Sundaes!!

I travel back from SFO tomorrow night with BA in F, roll on EY next Monday.

I admire OA260 who does fantastic trip reports, usually I get onboard finish calls, read the papers, before I know it were airborne, computer out order a few drinks, eat, sleep watch a movie and land. OA260 brings back the nostalgia of flying.

By the way I have no problems posting photos to prove I fly as I say I do above as I do take the odd photo to show my son along with the model airplane I get him.......


User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 25024 times:

I've noticed that EK is sending a mix of 3-Class and 2-Class 77W's to DUB.

Does anyone know what days the 3-Class flies and what days the 2-Class flies?



Next Flights: DUB-KEF-DUB, DUB-DXB-MEL-DXB-DUB, DUB-MAN-DME-MAN-DUB, DUB-CDG-KUL-CAN-HKG-KUL-CDG-DUB
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4161 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 25017 times:

Quoting cipango (Reply 15):
I've noticed that EK is sending a mix of 3-Class and 2-Class 77W's to DUB.

Does anyone know what days the 3-Class flies and what days the 2-Class flies?

There do not appear to be any set days. It is sporadic, and looking head to next month, there are only a handful of days where it is a 2 class aircraft. I beieve EK are somewhat short of airframes at the moment which may explain it.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 4 days ago) and read 24959 times:
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Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 16):
I beieve EK are somewhat short of airframes at the moment.....

There's a statement that sounds against the grain!!


User currently offlineIre2008 From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 24840 times:

Random question again, but im looking for information on rough operating costs per hour for narrowbody planes eg 737, 757 and A321 preferably. Have done some seatching but cant seem to find anything more up to date than the year 2000. Any help would be greatly appreciated for a college assignment.

Thanks

Kevin


User currently offlineac747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 24743 times:

AC Rouge to go year round YYZ-DUB.

http://irishaviationresearchinstitut...da-toronto-dublin-route-to-be.html



Haven't we been here before ?
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 24697 times:

Quoting EI104 (Reply 14):
EK need a lounge in DUB ASAP as the EY lounge is fantastic especially the breakfast,

Hi and very interesting post. Sounds like a nice job   I totally agree with you EK apparently were in negotiations about a lounge so hopefully we will hear something good soon. It does certainly water down the product on the ground without one. EY certainly has the best lounge at DUB and I agree their breakfast is top class.

It is interesting to read you prefer EK over EY . Its really split it seems you either are EK or EY . I hear that from a lot of Irish business travellers.

Quoting EI104 (Reply 14):
I admire OA260 who does fantastic trip reports, usually I get on board finish calls, read the papers, before I know it were airborne, computer out order a few drinks, eat, sleep watch a movie and land. OA260 brings back the nostalgia of flying.

Well what can I say I really appreciate those comments and its comments like that which make me feel its all worth while. It takes time and effort to produce these and sometimes you feel is it worth it but you have helped to make me realise it certainly is. I have a few interesting ones coming up which I hope you and everyone will enjoy.  
Quoting cipango (Reply 15):
Does anyone know what days the 3-Class flies and what days the 2-Class flies?

Looking at the schedules for the next 10 months it seems 99% of the time its 3 class. The travel trade even have F Class consol fares so its fairly stable that DUB get 3 class.

Quoting ac747 (Reply 19):
AC Rouge to go year round YYZ-DUB.

Great to see and I wonder what effect it will have on any EI route. I always thought Rouge would be the only way AC would go year round as its the product best to suit the Irish market. Lets hope it does well and its well supported.


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 24660 times:
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Quoting ac747 (Reply 19):
AC Rouge to go year round YYZ-DUB.

The only thing about this that is surprising is that it has taken this long! I recall that we were expecting this route to go year round since Open Skies came into effect. The other side of the coin is have EI missed the boat yet again for what should be a successful long haul route?



Next Flights: 27/06/14 CX 178 MEL-HKG; 28/06/14 CX 830 HKG-JFK; 04/07/14 EI 134 BOS-SNN
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 24649 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 21):
The only thing about this that is surprising is that it has taken this long!

Well the type of product did not exist until now. Yes AC sent their Domestic F aircraft here but it needed a ''Rouge'' type model to make if feasible. It will be interesting to see the pricing during Winter though.


User currently offlineaidansnn From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 24439 times:

Quoting EI104 (Reply 14):
have I to do a LOT of travel with work, mostly long haul and lucky enough in F or if not available J. I am gold with EI, BA, EY Gold Elite, EK Platinum and UA Premier 1K, I don't do Sky Team.

I'm definitely in the wrong industry!   Great to hear such insight into the various services on offer from Dublin from clearly a very experienced flyer.


User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 746 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 24061 times:

Quoting ac747 (Reply 19):
AC Rouge to go year round YYZ-DUB.

Have there been any further developments with the EI AC codeshare to LHR? You cant book through EI.com or AC.com and I have seen no advertising for it, has it all gone belly up?



Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4085 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 24145 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
Did you have a good experience?

I did! Pictures below (which many of you have seen already). I was in seat 4F, Business Premiere. It was only 7/24 seats occupied. I think EI-DAA just does the Boston-Dublin route. In the winter when there is only one daily, the plane is a -300. But in the summer when EI doubles up, they use the -200. I've been on -LAX also; just missing -DUO.

Maeve handled the controls from the right seat on EI-DAA to BOS
EI-DAA (A330-200) decending into Boston on EI 136
40,000 feet over Newfoundland on the way to Boston on EI 136


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 26, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 23995 times:

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 25):
I did! Pictures below (which many of you have seen already).

Arr yes sorry I do remember seeing them before . Good stuff.

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Etihad is having issues with their new systems today . It has been randomly cancelling confirmed bookings.


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Aer Lingus to pursue ‘wet-leasing’ contracts with other carriers

Aer Lingus says it is working on plans to fly short-haul routes for major European airlines keen to exit unprofitable services while retaining feeder traffic to their hubs.
Accords with Virgin Atlantic Airways and Nova Airlines AB of Sweden mark the beginning of the contract-flying strategy, with Aer Lingus pursuing outsourcing work with larger carriers, chief executive Christoph Mueller said.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...acts-with-other-carriers-1.1370856

Aer Lingus will release its 1st QTR results tomorrow and will be interesting reading !


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 27, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 24163 times:

Aer Lingus Regional will move to T2 at DUB from 1st May.

Quote:
Aer Lingus Regional flights, operated by Aer Arann, are to move to Terminal 2 at Dublin Airport from May 1.
Until now, some Aer Lingus Regional flights have operated from Terminal 1.

All regional routes will now operate from Terminal 2, including flights to Southend, Edinburgh, Birmingham and Manchester. The move to Terminal 2 will also make life easier for Aer Lingus Regional passengers linking to Aer Lingus’s transatlantic services from Terminal 2.

Good news, always heard people complaining about the walk between the two terminals.

http://www.businesspost.ie/

The link to the article is a bit dodgy for some reason but the story is there on the main page.

Quoting EIRules (Reply 24):
Have there been any further developments with the EI AC codeshare to LHR? You cant book through EI.com or AC.com and I have seen no advertising for it, has it all gone belly up?

It was just an interline agreement at LHR with the possibility of a full code share agreement sometime this year. I would have expected to hear something about it by now though.


User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4085 posts, RR: 2
Reply 28, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 24167 times:

That Air Canada ROUGE service to Ireland looks terrific! Aboard 763s, painted the way AC used to look (i.e. red-and-white livery, newly stylized).

User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 24142 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 27):
Aer Lingus Regional will move to T2 at DUB from 1st May.

I take it that the aircraft will still park where they are and people will be bussed to/from T2? There's hardly room to park them all at T2 unless you kick out the cargo aircraft from that little cul de sac?


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 30, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 24136 times:

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 28):
That Air Canada ROUGE service to Ireland looks terrific! Aboard 763s, painted the way AC used to look (i.e. red-and-white livery, newly stylized).

Yes I agree. Dare I say Rouge looks better than AC livery . The old AC livery was just classic and I like it so much. Cant wait to see it at DUB . Also I intend to take a trip as I have a Cousin in Toronto so will be a good excuse  


User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 24047 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 29):
I take it that the aircraft will still park where they are and people will be bussed to/from T2? There's hardly room to park them all at T2 unless you kick out the cargo aircraft from that little cul de sac?

I've seen stop mark positions on the T2 stands that have ATR written adjacent. Whether or not they will use them that remains to be seen.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 23847 times:

Does RE only use remote/bus stands at DUB now? Do they ever park at contact stands at Pier A?


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 23653 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 32):
Does RE only use remote/bus stands at DUB now? Do they ever park at contact stands at Pier A?

I've not been on or seen one at A in years. But there has to be no chance they'll countenance bussing from E to the stands they currently use - the distance is huge. Is there even an underpass under Pier A?


On a seperate note, I can now tell whether its a A32x or a Ryanair flight going overhead (my new house is on a path in to 28 and still has single glazing, not for long) due to the engine note. I really need to get out more - if only so I don't hear as many and check FR24! Both are quite distinctive but the 320s, even CFM56 powered ones, are far louder at that altitude.


User currently offlinephen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 23617 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 33):
I can now tell whether its a A32x or a Ryanair flight going overhead

Indeed , I lived under the flight path out of Heathrow's 09R and soon learned how to tell the aircraft type by sound alone. I was able to tell the difference between a RR and GE powered 77E. 77Ws are particularly distinctive along with the CX and MH 744s - the loudest of all due to being fully laden on the way to the far east. Hopefully things will become more diverse at DUB soon with EY adding the 77W and hopefully the 787 as currently planned! And who knows EK may send an A380 before we know it...


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 35, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 23560 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 33):
I've not been on or seen one at A in years. But there has to be no chance they'll countenance bussing from E to the stands they currently use - the distance is huge. Is there even an underpass under Pier A?

They very much still use pier A. Saw 2 re aircraft parks there this afternoon!

On another note, saw part of the refurbished Pier B (312/313) today and must say I was highly disillusioned afterwards! A lick of paint and repositioned gate desks and its costing so much??? I'm sure I've missed some thing!



My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 23541 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 35):
They very much still use pier A. Saw 2 re aircraft parks there this afternoon!

Must not be there at the times I'm there (generally very early or horrendously late in either direction, thanks to work), always been bussed to beyond D from the old terminal non-contact gates.

Is it done on a gate availability basis or cost basis?


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 37, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 23550 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 36):
Quoting tonystan (Reply 35):
They very much still use pier A. Saw 2 re aircraft parks there this afternoon!

Must not be there at the times I'm there (generally very early or horrendously late in either direction, thanks to work), always been bussed to beyond D from the old terminal non-contact gates.

Is it done on a gate availability basis or cost basis?

It does tend to become Cityjet world at peak times alright!!! Even the interior of the "chapel" of Pier A is predominated with WX Branding! Actually had an enjoyable flight to LCY in their Dornier a few months back!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 38, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 23547 times:

Anyone know whats happening with that First Nation at DUB ? Is it going to someone else.

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/MISC/fndub1_zps13cccb9e.jpg


User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 39, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 23528 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 35):
On another note, saw part of the refurbished Pier B (312/313) today and must say I was highly disillusioned afterwards! A lick of paint and repositioned gate desks and its costing so much??? I'm sure I've missed some thing!

Havn't being up around there recently but they were due to get new airbridges.


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 40, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 23527 times:

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 39):

They got new jetties a year or two ago. They are now the same as the ones in T2. I remember YEARS AGO when I used to drive those things for a llivong. B22 used to be an ancient jetty (why they didn't upgrade it in the 90s is anyone's guess) with the most unusual control. You could pull the control unit down to the ramp from the steps beside the cab and drive it from there. Ancient!!!!!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 41, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 23367 times:

Aer Lingus seeking 100 redundancies as first quarter losses grow


Aer Lingus reports operating loss of €45.5m for first quarter of 2013

Aer Lingus has said is seeking about 100 voluntary redundancies as it continues to streamline its organisational structure. It made the announcement in an interim management statement today.

It said its performance for the first three months of the year highlighted the need to continue to review its cost base to protect profitability for the rest of 2013 and beyond.

Aer Lingus said today that its revenue for the first three months of 2013 rose by 3.3% €259.7m.

The airline reported an operating loss before exceptional items of €45.5m for the three months from January to March - this compares to a loss of €36.1m the same time last year.

The airline noted that its first quarter of the year is usually loss making.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013/0425/385524-aer-lingus-ims/

So some interesting figures ! Thoughts?


User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days ago) and read 23363 times:
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"Aer Lingus put the increased loss down to start-up costs for the Virgin ''wet lease'' operation in the UK, changes to the long haul fleet and slightly weaker trading on UK routes. Total passenger numbers between January and end March increased by 2.2%. The overall yield per passenger increased by 3.7%"

Sounds to me as if this quarter was actually an improvement. Did RTE make the link between redundancies and Q1 losses?

However this linking does support the logic of Herr Mueller. At the CAPA conference 10 days ago he made a statement hinting at "ongoing continuous change" at EI. While this is a good concept there comes a point where you cut too much and lose the difference between 'value airline' and LCC.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 43, posted (1 year 3 months 2 days ago) and read 23342 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 42):

Well going back to the article I posted before where it mentioned EI had one of the highest staff costs in Europe I guess they need to look at this in more detail. They need to look at some legacy employees on bloated contracts/ wages before they hit the average paid Check in agent/lounge agent.

The annual general meeting tomorrow will be interesting Im sure.


The full facts and figures are here :

http://corporate.aerlingus.com/media...3_Interim_Management_Statement.pdf

[Edited 2013-04-25 00:25:36]

User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 44, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 23287 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 42):
While this is a good concept there comes a point where you cut too much and lose the difference between 'value airline' and LCC.

In terms of service I think Mueller appreciates that Aer Lingus needs to set itself apart, there have been a number of improvements along side the greenfield cost cutting programme so staff cuts don't seem to be immediately affecting the product.

Any idea where the redundancies are coming from? 100 seems a low number for front line staff.


User currently offlineac747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 45, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 23295 times:

Aer Lingus Adds Boeing 757s to Link With JetBlue Hubs in U.S.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ink-with-jetblue-hubs-in-u-s-.html



Haven't we been here before ?
User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 46, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23150 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 43):
Well going back to the article I posted before where it mentioned EI had one of the highest staff costs in Europe I guess they need to look at this in more detail. They need to look at some legacy employees on bloated contracts/ wages before they hit the average paid Check in agent/lounge agent.

Especially considering that EI have pretty much halved their average length of service among frontline staff over the last 5-6 years. Over 50% of all check-in/boarding/cabin/arrivals staff are there under 8 years. A long way away from the more mature staff demographic of the late 90's/early 00's.


User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 47, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23123 times:

Turkish AIrlines will operate 12 weekly flights to IST from 30 March 2014 up from 10.

Etihad B777 will not operate for the winter season.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 48, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23084 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 46):
Over 50% of all check-in/boarding/cabin/arrivals staff are there under 8 years. A long way away from the more mature staff demographic of the late 90's/early 00's.

I guess the check in staff are on around EUR10-12 an hour or is that an over estimate? It used to be between EUR17-23 depending on what contracts you were on .

They need to consolidate departments where possible and cut the highest wage costs.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 49, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 22841 times:

Interesting development from Norwegian :

Budget airline may register aircraft in Ireland to avoid Norwegian labour law

Budget airline Norwegian Air Shuttle is considering registering a long-haul aircraft in Ireland to circumvent Norwegian laws, which bar it from hiring cheaper Asian cabin crews.

The carrier has sent a letter to Norway's Civil Aviation Authority asking it to authorise "renting an aircraft that in all likelihood will be registered in the Irish Aircraft Registration Department", reports AFP.
The contents of the letter, seen by business daily Dagens Naeringsliv, were confirmed by company spokesman Lasse Sandaker-Nielsen.

The new aircraft would operate on Norwegian's recently announced routes to Thailand and the United States.
To ensure competitive fares on the new routes, the company wants to hire staff in Asia for a fraction of the cost it is now paying in Scandinavia.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013...0425/385693-norwegian-air-shuttle/


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 22809 times:

Quoting ac747 (Reply 45):
er Lingus Adds Boeing 757s

Great to see this confirmed, though SNN will truly be 757 country now! TS will be the only A330 operator. I wonder if EI would consider using one 757 on the morning LHR rotation to free up the A320 for other European destinations. I suppose they will be watching how the new SNN-FAO route does before considering new routes.



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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 51, posted (1 year 3 months 1 day ago) and read 22507 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 50):
Great to see this confirmed, though SNN will truly be 757 country now! TS will be the only A330 operator. I wonder if EI would consider using one 757 on the morning LHR rotation to free up the A320 for other European destinations. I suppose they will be watching how the new SNN-FAO route does before considering new routes.

Assuming SNN-ORD and SNN-PHL return next summer, there will nearly be as many B757 rotations in and out of SNN as there are B737 rotations. Hard to have imagined that a few years ago when FR were in full swing.



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7081 posts, RR: 57
Reply 52, posted (1 year 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 22339 times:

I note that Rennes is up to three times daily this summer. Anyone else remember the weekly summer fokker 50s via ORK?

I assume that this route is highly seasonal, and there is no chance of a weekly winter service.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 53, posted (1 year 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 22329 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 52):
I assume that this route is highly seasonal, and there is no chance of a weekly winter service.

Indeed mostly used by people doing fly drive to the Campsites around the Brittany area between May-Aug.

---

SWISS will maintain a daily service DUB-ZRH during Winter 2013-2014. Usually this service drops in frequency so good to see it daily.

[Edited 2013-04-26 07:10:45]

----

Ryanair fails to block UK competition authority probe over Aer Lingus stake

RYANAIR has failed to block a UK Competition Commission investigation into its 30pc stake in Aer Lingus.

The UK's Supreme Court in London has refused to re-open an earlier court decision to allow the investigation to go ahead.

The UK's highest court opted not to consider the Ryanair appeal saying the matter would not "raise an arguable point of law of general public importance," in an e-mailed statement today.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...ver-aer-lingus-stake-29224185.html


[Edited 2013-04-26 07:22:22]

User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (1 year 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 22244 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 52):
Anyone else remember the weekly summer fokker 50s via ORK?

Yep, and the Sheds before that, that would have been some flight in bad weather!

Before that you also had the Brit Air Bandit's to Morlaix too.


User currently offlinebx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 678 posts, RR: 3
Reply 55, posted (1 year 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 22195 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 52):

I remember it well, it was a long days work, but people were in good form as they were off on holidays. I also remember DUB-ORK-CDG and vv. That was another long day, also on the F50. Then EI decided to expand out of ORK and used the BAe 146 to AMS and CDG. That was two days as we went DUB-ORK-CDG-ORK, overnighted and then the following day it was ORK-AMS-ORK-DUB.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3916 posts, RR: 9
Reply 56, posted (1 year 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 22092 times:

Quoting bx737 (Reply 55):
Then EI decided to expand out of ORK and used the BAe 146 to AMS and CDG. That was two days as we went DUB-ORK-CDG-ORK, overnighted and then the following day it was ORK-AMS-ORK-DUB.

I remember flying the 146 to BHX in the mid to late 90's, both from ORK and DUB. I remember my Dad used to like them because they had four jet engines. I don't remember that much about them, but they were 3-3 across. I also have a vague recollection that there was a mid-cabin FA station, is that right?
Back in those days they even flew the 737s on ORK-DUB. I think the aircraft used to go onto DUS, or possibly FRA. I still remember the little glass of orange juice they used to offer.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 57, posted (1 year 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 21920 times:

I flew DUB-ORK on the 146 . Some amazing scenery on the way down and landed at the old ORK airport. I then took the bus to town and got the Inter city train back  

User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 21875 times:

Flew the newest A319, EI-EPT, back from LGW tonight. Cabin was immaculate, still had that new smell and had a good flight but there is noticeably less leg room and I definitely wouldn't want to be stuck on a flight on it to the canaries. It has the same Recaro seats as the odd ball A320s. Comfortable but tight.

User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 59, posted (1 year 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 21835 times:
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A somewhat unusual but a very practical and no doubt a very well appreciated gesture from SNN to help out the local farming community County Clare

'Shannon Airport support for farmers' fodder crisis'

http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/abo...ort_for_farmers_fodder_crisis.aspx

Apparently they are moving forward a grass cutting for the entire airfield which was next scheduled for 2015 and they intend to donate the resulting silage bales to local farmers.



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User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (1 year 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 21803 times:

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 58):
Flew the newest A319, EI-EPT, back from LGW tonight. Cabin was immaculate, still had that new smell and had a good flight but there is noticeably less leg room and I definitely wouldn't want to be stuck on a flight on it to the canaries. It has the same Recaro seats as the odd ball A320s. Comfortable but tight.

Was on it last Saturday (and on one of the oddball 320s on the way back) and my ankles were sore for days afterwards. They seriously have to sort the eating out soon - 1-7 have masses of legroom and 8-24 don't.

Got the impression that they weren't intending to put it in to service as quickly as they did, so hopefully they'll do it in winter if not before.


User currently offlinenightfox365 From Ireland, joined Jul 2011, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 21606 times:

I will be out at Dublin airport today, if anyone wants to join me out there, they are more then welcome. Look for a guy with a white cap with IPSC in a rudimentary plane design on it.


Flown on: bae146, bn2 islander, 741, A320, A321, A333, A332, MD80, 738
User currently offlinebx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 678 posts, RR: 3
Reply 62, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 21538 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 56):

The BAe146s did not have an FA station mid cabin. As they came from different sources, they had different internal layouts. IIRC EI-CLJ had a lateral galley at the front as they had integral stairs at the front. The 146s had 110 or 111 seats in them, depending on whether they had integral stairs. The stairs were stored in the cabin. CLH and CLI had stairs at the rear. CLG did not have stairs and had 111 seats.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3916 posts, RR: 9
Reply 63, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 21445 times:

Quoting bx737 (Reply 62):

I thought it seemed unlikely, must have been mixing them up with the A321s, which I flew on around the same time on those middle of the night charters down to Faro!



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7081 posts, RR: 57
Reply 64, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 21394 times:

Quoting bx737 (Reply 62):
The BAe146s did not have an FA station mid cabin. As they came from different sources, they had different internal layouts. IIRC EI-CLJ had a lateral galley at the front as they had integral stairs at the front. The 146s had 110 or 111 seats in them, depending on whether they had integral stairs. The stairs were stored in the cabin. CLH and CLI had stairs at the rear. CLG did not have stairs and had 111 seats.

Didn't the stairs go to the right of the door where the toilet is on the ARJ?



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User currently offlinebx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 678 posts, RR: 3
Reply 65, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 21220 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 63):

Until the A321 was configured to 212 seats, it had a galley at row 9.

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 64):

The stairs were stowed in the cabin, opposite the crew seats at the front, and at the back they were stowed across from the lav, beside the crew seat.


User currently onlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1462 posts, RR: 3
Reply 66, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 20870 times:

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 58):
Apparently they are moving forward a grass cutting for the entire airfield which was next scheduled for 2015 and they intend to donate the resulting silage bales to local farmers.

A nice gesture. I recall that Dublin had a grass drying facility for cut grass just off the field in the dim and distant past.

Not, I believe, reported here yet is that the DAA have applied for permission to demolish the former IONA hangar. A sad end for a facility that many of us will always associate with happier times.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7081 posts, RR: 57
Reply 67, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20611 times:

Which is the iona hangar. Is that the ryanair one?


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User currently offlinenbmike From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 20568 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):

Well the type of product did not exist until now. Yes AC sent their Domestic F aircraft here but it needed a ''Rouge'' type model to make if feasible. It will be interesting to see the pricing during Winter though.

Flying with AC to YVR from DUB in June. Comfort Plus on the DUB-YYZ-DUB leg, then got to choose a Preferred Seat on the YYZ-YVR-YYZ legs for free. Total including taxes E801. It cost E220 to upgrade to comfort plus.

As you say it will be interesting to see the winter pricing.


User currently offlineEIBusiness From Ireland, joined Feb 2010, 639 posts, RR: 7
Reply 69, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 20541 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 42):
Sounds to me as if this quarter was actually an improvement. Did RTE make the link between redundancies and Q1 losses?

However this linking does support the logic of Herr Mueller. At the CAPA conference 10 days ago he made a statement hinting at "ongoing continuous change" at EI. While this is a good concept there comes a point where you cut too much and lose the difference between 'value airline' and LCC.

On individual metrics perhaps - but the overall performance represented a notably adverse annualised trend. Quite simply: the relative increase in Total Operating Costs (Year on Year) markedly outstripped the relative increase in Total Revenues in an inflationary environment where further sharp increases in Yield Per Passenger remain unlikely. The decline in Retail Revenue Per Passenger underscores this. Against this backdrop, cost discipline remains paramount - as it does for every airline.

Looking at the Q1 announcement further - I would note that:

- A substantial proportion of the Wi-Fi installation costs will have been capitalised and will have had an immaterial impact on full Q1 earnings when considered. The same can be said of further planned installations.
- Exceptional item costs are likely to feature in Full Year 2013 - The already identified Redundancy scheme (provision) and a possible provision relating to the Pension Deficit.

Although so many have contributed so much to date at EI - there is still much further progress to be made. As alluded to in previous posts, there is much scope for cross departmental consolidation of various functions. Legacy pay agreements that are significantly disproportionate to the current operating environment persist across several functions while functional inefficiencies and duplication also persist.

Aer Lingus' business model has been transformed relative to three years ago. However, the degree of transformation achieved to date is simply not sufficient. Given the recent reduction in core operating expense items (namely wages and salaries); future near term cost consolidation exercises are likely to take the form of organisational change. In 2013, we must all now accept that almost every role across all industries demands flexibility. Labour force flexibility and adaptability will be a key point upon which companies can differentiate in the coming years - when input prices are likely to remain sticky downward. ''More output with existing resources'' is ultimately the theme that now dominates and will continue to do so.

Some may point to the current annual return of the EI Share Price as evidence of perhaps positive trends. However, once plotted against industry rivals and the ISEQ Benchmark - we can see that the majority of the positive momentum does not represent out-performance of competitors - particularly during 2013.

C Mueller's message of the requirement for continuous change is apt - and that's what we will continue to see at Aer Lingus if the company is to secure a stable, profitable future - to establish a business that is well placed for change in its ownership structure, that can compete upon its own merits and reduce the pro-cyclical nature of its revenue streams to the absolute minimum.

One Year Share Price Performance



Regards,

EIBusiness



Vivo Per Lei...
User currently offlinebx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 678 posts, RR: 3
Reply 70, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20426 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 67):

It's over beside the SAR hangar, it used to be an orange colour. To be totally Irish about it, it's beside The Boot Inn (Irish people only give directions using pubs or churches  )


User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20395 times:

Quoting bx737 (Reply 70):
The Boot Inn (Irish people only give directions using pubs or churches  )

Very true and up North,Orange halls as well     

Any idea what the plans are for the site??


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 72, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 20113 times:

Quoting nbmike (Reply 68):

Let us know your feedback. Would be nice to see some pics too  
Quoting EIBusiness (Reply 69):

Very interesting and detailed as usual.   Been missing your posts!


User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 251 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 19857 times:

http://www.belfastairport.com/en/new...online-check-in-from-30-april.html

All easyJet flights will be 100% online check in from 30 April. [ BFS ]

I hope U2 gave their passengers more notice than BFS!



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User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 74, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 19703 times:

Quoting Jambost (Reply 73):

Easyjet have being moving to online check in for a few months now, currently 89% of passengers for the week ending 26 April were doing it online so by no menas was it rushed.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12408 posts, RR: 37
Reply 75, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 19732 times:

EI-FAS was handed over to Aer Lingus Regional/Aer Arann at Toulouse today; should be home very shortly (if not already?)

This is EIR's first ATR72-600.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 76, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 19553 times:

Reported on another thread that a delegation from PK recently visited SNN regarding the KHI-LHE-JFK transit stop. Still no date confirmed for start-up operations though. Also it appears the resumption of their on-off every-second-year ORD operations are suspended (again) so I don't know whether to hold my breath!


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 19534 times:

Also - an interesting story here about a three-hour delay on the tarmac at Shannon Airport; the first such instance I've seen at an Irish airport. These stories usually surface in North America when weather-related delays prompt diversions and legislation had to be drawn up requiring airlines to have "tarmac delay plans":

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/bu...ight-diverted-to-shannon-1-5041132



Shannon-Chicago
User currently onlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1462 posts, RR: 3
Reply 78, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 19334 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 75):
EI-FAS was handed over to Aer Lingus Regional/Aer Arann at Toulouse today;

There is a feature and a cockpit photo in the Independent this morning.
Of course Fas is a curiously appropriate registration, if you add a fada!


User currently onlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1462 posts, RR: 3
Reply 79, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 19327 times:

The Shannon Airport long grass saga latest is that over 300 acres of grass, cut specially on Sunday, was then donated to farmers.

The silage was estimated to be valued at over €40,000.
Dont know if it will improve the quality of photo shots at SNN or not.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 80, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19320 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 79):
The Shannon Airport long grass saga latest is that over 300 acres of grass, cut specially on Sunday, was then donated to farmers.

I did notice on the RTE report the other day that the Iberia 727 was still there, I thought it had left Shannon a while back.

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 78):
Of course Fas is a curiously appropriate registration, if you add a fada!

Glad I'm not the only one who was thinking that, I keep pronouncing it that way whenever I see this registration pop up in discussion.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7081 posts, RR: 57
Reply 81, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19304 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 80):
I did notice on the RTE report the other day that the Iberia 727 was still there, I thought it had left Shannon a while back.

That 727 will go nowhere in a hurry.

Iberia 727 At Shannon? (by BestWestern Feb 14 2005 in Civil Aviation)

How time flies...



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User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 82, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19289 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 81):
That 727 will go nowhere in a hurry.

It certainly looks that way judging by this sad photo.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/elevationair/5558990129/

The side that faces the terminal is kept clean while the other is left to rot.


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 83, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19264 times:
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Quoting BestWestern (Reply 81):
That 727 will go nowhere in a hurry.

That poor plane. I always feel so sorry for it whenever I drive past. It would be more dignified if it had been broken up into coke cans rather than abandoned against the perimeter fence with grass growing up around it and the algae growing on the wings and fuselage. Surely any parts worth cannibalising are long gone. It often surprised me as to why Iberia left their name and full livery on the aircraft. Normally these are removed when aircraft as placed in 'storage' like this?



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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 84, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 19221 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 66):

A nice gesture. I recall that Dublin had a grass drying facility for cut grass just off the field in the dim and distant past.

If you look back at photo's from the 70's and 80's it was common to see bales of grass between taxiways and runways.
I believe it was discontinued when practices were introduced to manage the height of grass to aid prevention of bird hazzard.

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 66):
ot, I believe, reported here yet is that the DAA have applied for permission to demolish the former IONA hangar. A sad end for a facility that many of us will always associate with happier times.

Really sad to hear about that. The only reminder left of what was a hugely important part of Irish aviation history.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 19120 times:

Is the Iberia 727 not used for fire training purposes?


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 86, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19107 times:

What a complete balls up on the part of Dublin Airport !!


RTÉ News has learnt that Dublin Airport Authority's top executives are being strongly encouraged to volunteer for shifts at airport security because too many security staff were allowed to take redundancy.
In an email to staff, DAA Director of Human Resources Damien Lenagh thanks managers for stepping in to help by taking on passenger service duties in Terminal 1.
He writes that he wants them to be aware of the level of support that has been given to date, and also what efforts are required in the next couple of weeks.


http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0430/388945-daa-security-detail/


User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 746 posts, RR: 10
Reply 87, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19075 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 86):
What a complete balls up on the part of Dublin Airport !!

I can only imagine that the TSA would turn in their graves. Thankfully Im flying out of T2 tomorrow, not T1



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User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 88, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19075 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 86):
RTÉ News has learnt that Dublin Airport Authority's top executives are being strongly encouraged to volunteer for shifts at airport security because too many security staff were allowed to take redundancy.

That is priceless......how were HR allowed to let go more than was over quota....someone needs to get another job.

Reading the article this caught my eye:
"The total managers who have enlisted for a shift to date are 116 with 298 operational shifts scheduled".

So DAA have 116 'managers' in T1? Seems a little excessive to me. (Printer mngr, fax Mngr, IT mngr, IT development Mngr, Comms Mngr, Internal Comms Mngr, Staff break room Mngr, Roster sitcker upper mngr...........)


User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 19012 times:

http://www.routes-news.com/news/1-ne...o-pass-on-heathrow-slot-pair-to-ba

EI looking to offload a Heathrow slot pair, arriving in at 10pm and departing at 06.40am. This must mean they are looking to reduce overnighting aircraft to one.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7081 posts, RR: 57
Reply 90, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 18907 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 88):
So DAA have 116 'managers' in T1? Seems a little excessive to me. (Printer mngr, fax Mngr, IT mngr, IT development Mngr, Comms Mngr, Internal Comms Mngr, Staff break room Mngr, Roster sitcker upper mngr...........)

No, 116 managers from Dublin airport that signed up, not just 116 managers from T1.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 86):
What a complete balls up on the part of Dublin Airport !!

What was lost in the T1 security problems was a good year in comparison to other state organisations like irish rail.

• Group operating costs 8% below 2008 levels, when Dublin Airport was operating with only one terminal
• Net debt reduced by €60 million
• Shannon separated with no debt, on time and in accordance with Government decision



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineEI564 From Ireland, joined May 2007, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 18818 times:

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 89):
EI looking to offload a Heathrow slot pair, arriving in at 10pm and departing at 06.40am. This must mean they are looking to reduce overnighting aircraft to one.

This came up on another thread. It says 10pm and 06:50 in that article but EI doesn't operate flights at that time from Heathrow. So i'm not sure is this another slot pair which it has leased to another airline?

Did SNN once have a flight from LHR at 06:50?


User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 92, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 18802 times:

Quoting EI564 (Reply 91):

They mean the 06.40 from LHR and 21.10 from DUB flights.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4161 posts, RR: 13
Reply 93, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 18605 times:

Quoting EI564 (Reply 91):
Did SNN once have a flight from LHR at 06:50?

Those times were in fact the operating times of the 4th daily SNNLHRSNN service when it operated, the EI382 I think it was.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 94, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 18496 times:
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Quoting EI564 (Reply 91):
This came up on another thread. It says 10pm and 06:50 in that article but EI doesn't operate flights at that time from Heathrow. So i'm not sure is this another slot pair which it has leased to another airline?

Could this be a situation where EI hold the slot but do not currently utilise it....they thus want to to swop this slot pair with another airline who have a timing more favourable to EI shorthaul ops?


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 18440 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 94):
Could this be a situation where EI hold the slot but do not currently utilise it....they thus want to to swop this slot pair with another airline who have a timing more favourable to EI shorthaul ops?

The report says the slot is being sold to BA


User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2147 posts, RR: 4
Reply 96, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 18373 times:

According to Skyliner Aviation, EI are to lease an A320 from IB for the summer season.

User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 18340 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 96):
According to Skyliner Aviation, EI are to lease an A320 from IB for the summer season.

With some of the recent hire-in's they could do with a backup machine.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 98, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 18348 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 88):

No doubt they will be hiring again  

Anyone travelling to and from Dublin Airport by Bus Eireann over the next few weeks should be aware of a pending all out strike! Obviously would effect SNN NOC ORK also.


User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18196 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 96):

According to Skyliner Aviation, EI are to lease an A320 from IB for the summer season

I think the aircraft arrived into DUB yesterday(30th) in an all white scheme EC-KNM,just shortly after 5pm.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 100, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 17891 times:

The two inaugurals to FAO and GLA tookoff from SNN today. A presentation was made by Declan Power (Head of Aviation Development) to the BE captain to welcome them back. The previously operated BHX-SNN from 1999 to 2005.

http://i41.tinypic.com/zlrol1.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2q9ly8o.jpg

A fine day for them and hopefully they will prove very successful!



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 101, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 17888 times:

SNN-FAO has being extended from 13 September to 24 October, reduces from 3 to 2 weekly but a postive sign that EI are happy with the route, ORK-PMI willbe dropped to fit it in.

User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 102, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 17789 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 96):
EI are to lease an A320 from IB for the summer season.

Will EI keep this in an all white scheme,or will they apply some hybrid colour scheme,considering the current push on branding?


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 103, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 17739 times:

Quoting Nibog (Reply 102):
Will EI keep this in an all white scheme,or will they apply some hybrid colour scheme,considering the current push on branding?

Hopefully they will make it as ''Green'' as possible and blend into the rest of the fleet. Branding is very important.

---

Quite a valid point and another reason for a ruling to make FR sell its stake.

Competition body told Ryanair could stop Aer Lingus buying planes

An institutional shareholder in Aer Lingus has told the UK's Competition Commission that Ryanair might be able to stop the former state-owned carrier from raising equity to fund new aircraft purchases if such a situation arose.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...lingus-buying-planes-29236714.html


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 104, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 17198 times:

For anyone interested my latest Aer Lingus TR :

NCL Cruise Ship ''Breakaway'' Inaugural+Aer Lingus (by OA260 May 2 2013 in Trip Reports)

Flights were good and on time. Pre order meals not actively handed out again.

The lounge Aer Lingus uses in LGW the No.1 has gone down hill sadly and not as good as it was. More like a No.3 lounge !

Whats happening with EI - REP?

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/NCLBR/NCLBREAK2/file_zps62f291f6.jpg


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 105, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 17068 times:
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Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 101):
SNN-FAO has being extended from 13 September to 24 October, reduces from 3 to 2 weekly but a postive sign that EI are happy with the route, ORK-PMI willbe dropped to fit it in.

It certainly bodes well for the route if frequency has been increased and the service period has been extended. Lets hope it (along with BE to GLA) are at SNN to stay.



Next Flights: 27/06/14 CX 178 MEL-HKG; 28/06/14 CX 830 HKG-JFK; 04/07/14 EI 134 BOS-SNN
User currently onlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1462 posts, RR: 3
Reply 106, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 17052 times:

FR has lost a claim in the High Court that they should be refunded €770,700 in VAT for professional services, related to its unsuccessful 2006 bid to take over a well known Irish airline.

The Court also refused an application to refer the matter to the European Court of Justice.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 107, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 17014 times:

Good news for the IAA !


Irish Aviation Authority made €22.9m profit in 2012

The Irish Aviation Authority recorded an operating profit of €22.9m last year, up 27% on 2011.
The IAA, which is State-owned, provides air traffic management services in Irish airspace and also acts as a regulator in relation to safety and security standards.
It had a turnover of €175m in 2012 and paid a €5m dividend to the Department of Transport.
The majority of the IAA’s revenue comes from en route charges, which covers international aircraft using Irish airspace to reach another destination.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013.../390028-irish-aviation-authority/.


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 16813 times:

I see the new Aer Arann ATR EI-FAS is currently heading for Dublin, passing over Wales at the moment. Nice to see that these -600's are now appearing on Flightradar too.

User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 16681 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 103):
Hopefully they will make it as ''Green'' as possible and blend into the rest of the fleet. Branding is very important.

Apparently staying white to allow subbing in for a opf VS craft if needed, VS not wanting an EI branded plane.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 104):
The lounge Aer Lingus uses in LGW the No.1 has gone down hill sadly and not as good as it was. More like a No.3 lounge !

Whats happening with EI - REP?

I would hope the lounge situation is improved when the terminal is less of a building site.

EI-REP is being disposed of, not sure where the engines have gone though.


User currently offlineirish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 964 posts, RR: 4
Reply 110, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 16454 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 109):
EI-REP is being disposed of, not sure where the engines have gone though.

They are being overhauled and will be reinstalled when that work has been completed.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16387 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 109):
EI-REP is being disposed of, not sure where the engines have gone though.

Why? Isn't that one of the newer -500s that was delivered just a few years ago?



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 112, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16360 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 109):
Apparently staying white to allow subbing in for a opf VS craft if needed, VS not wanting an EI branded plane.

It's a bit late for that, pretty sure some of EI A320s have already subbed for Little Red.

It will probably stay white to save on costs, the EI livery can't be the cheapest to paint and if the aircraft is only staying for the summer months I don't think even Mueller could justify the cost of a repaint. Keeping it all white is also a better option than sticking a shamrock on the tail and Aer Lingus titles by the door as that makes it look like EI have adopted a cheap new livery which passengers won't like the look of.


User currently offlinerufusisgod From Ireland, joined Nov 2008, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 113, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 16318 times:

Someone mentioned already that ei-rep has been sold to part fund the new aircraft . Not sure how true it is but it would make sense.

User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 114, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 16103 times:

Quoting rufusisgod (Reply 113):

Could be wrong but the airrcraft that was for sale was then kept because of the VS deal.


User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 115, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 15932 times:

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 114):
Could be wrong but the airrcraft that was for sale was then kept because of the VS deal.

EI-REP is a (now former) RE craft not an EI one


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3916 posts, RR: 9
Reply 116, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 15497 times:

Ive taken a screen grab from the RE delivery promo video. From what I can see the interior seems to be much improved over the -500s and -200s in the fleet. I think the seats are the same as in the refitted AT4s? The seatbacks look much higher, which is a good thing. The seats in the -500 fleet are awful, they stop mid-shoulder and provide no head of neck support. Hopefully the higher seat pocket frees up some kneeroom too.
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y395/esquire250/IMG_0403_zpsa309a484.png
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y395/esquire250/IMG_0402_zps5cf836e9.png
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y395/esquire250/IMG_0401_zpsd203c80a.png



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4626 posts, RR: 23
Reply 117, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15167 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 116):
Ive taken a screen grab from the RE delivery promo video. From what I can see the interior seems to be much improved over the -500s and -200s in the fleet. I think the seats are the same as in the refitted AT4s? The seatbacks look much higher, which is a good thing.

Oh, nicely done! I assume the overhead bins are still the same crazy tiny size as the ones on the current Aer Lingus Regional fleet? Or has there been some kind of design change at ATR with larger bins?



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 118, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15105 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 117):

An improvement for sure looks nice. The bins are still the same size AFAIK.


User currently offlinerufusisgod From Ireland, joined Nov 2008, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 14846 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 117):

The Overhead bins are a little bigger i think. Watched a video on the cabin design of the -600 awhile back.

Looks like a very nice cabin. I have flown on the 42s with the new cabin and the legroom is very much improved. Better than EI 320s i'd say. A step in the right direction for RE.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 120, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14525 times:

Aer Lingus passenger numbers fall 2.5% in April due to Easter

Load factors down 3.8 percentage points to 68.9%.

Short-haul passenger numbers were down 4.2%.

Long-haul up 6.3%.

Regional up 5.1%.

http://www.businesspost.ie/#!story/H...410615-5218-5188-99d8-bcf0e2334190

Expected with the earlier Easter but it seems long haul and regional continue to grow while short haul lags, it's been that way for a while but could be partly down to the Belfast move, a few routes were dropped during the swap to BHD.


User currently offlinejrfspa320 From Australia, joined Sep 2005, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 14382 times:

Any Chance of seeing ATR 42-600s being ordered to replace older ones? Could be useful for Belfast and knock expansion.
With EI selling a LHR slot, I thought they might try move to NOC flight from LGW, I'm sure the route would be a lot busier from LHR?


User currently offlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 122, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 14213 times:

Anybody know if EI-LAX went tech today? It did the Malaga rotation this morning and was due to do the 139 to BOS. Looks like flight is delayed with no updates coming(my wife is seating in T2 waiting to board 139)

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 123, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 14195 times:

EI have another Ad campaign in London. This is in tonights Evening Standard:



Also they are putting billboards up in more affluent areas in Surrey I noticed.


User currently offlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 124, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14162 times:

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 122):
Anybody know if EI-LAX went tech today? It did the Malaga rotation this morning and was due to do the 139 to BOS. Looks like flight is delayed with no updates coming(my wife is seating in T2 waiting to board 139)

Actually it looks like EI-DUZ is the aircraft due to operate the 139.


User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 125, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14138 times:

Aer Lingus website has an estimated departure time at 18.30

User currently offlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 126, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14132 times:

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 125):

Aer Lingus website has an estimated departure time at 18.30

thanks. They have started to board..


User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 127, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 14126 times:

Looking at prices to OXF on Minoan and the date I wanted outbound has the lowest fair as sold out. Are they doing well or do they seriously limit the lowest price band?

They're marked as saver/semi-flex/flex/fully-flex which seem quite odd as names.


User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13816 times:

Very quiet here lately...

I took a peek around the "refurbished" pier B gates and I have to say if all that is going to cost €1m then some builder / decorator is having a right old laugh down to the bank. The quality of the painting is shocking and messy. Brush strokes and uneven application is rampant. Engraved graffiti is just painted over but still visible and the grey panelling along the window perimeter is just painted over white. It looked better and more presentable before. I sincerely hope this is just the base coat / primer and that they are returning in weeks to come. And would someone please give those windows a wash outside!


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 129, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13796 times:
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Have EI started operating a codeshare with AC on LHR flights? I noticed two out of three SNN-LHR arrivals/departures have both the normal EI flight number and an AC flight number also.


Next Flights: 27/06/14 CX 178 MEL-HKG; 28/06/14 CX 830 HKG-JFK; 04/07/14 EI 134 BOS-SNN
User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 746 posts, RR: 10
Reply 130, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 13750 times:

Yeah I asked about this a few weeks ago and nobody seemed to know the answer. But there are EI flights to LHR bookable on AC.com however if you try book to Canada you are often only given the option of UA to EWR and connect from there, and I tried a dummy booking to YVR and while I was given the option via LHR with EI flights, I also had the option of flights to LHR with BA!!! And the AC website says the EI flights are operated by United Express!


Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 13732 times:

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 128):
I took a peek around the "refurbished" pier B gates and I have to say if all that is going to cost €1m then some builder / decorator is having a right old laugh down to the bank. The quality of the painting is shocking and messy. Brush strokes and uneven application is rampant. Engraved graffiti is just painted over but still visible and the grey panelling along the window perimeter is just painted over white. It looked better and more presentable before. I sincerely hope this is just the base coat / primer and that they are returning in weeks to come. And would someone please give those windows a wash outside!

I meant to ask, is Pier B like Pier A now in the way that once you enter it you can't come back out because of the automated doors? It seemed that way when I last passed through and I was a bit disappointed as it used to be a grand place for spotting.



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 132, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 13613 times:

Looks life wifi on T/A flights has being delayed until June, anyone know why?

User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 133, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13227 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 131):

Hopes you can still wander over and back cos it has segregated arrivals!



My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 134, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 12918 times:

All Airport services by Bus Eireann will be cancelled from Sunday due to all out strike.

User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 135, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 12916 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 131):
is Pier B like Pier A now in the way that once you enter it you can't come back out because of the automated doors?

Still open to pass in and out as of yesterday.

Got to see 4 ATR beside and A330 on Pier B yesterday morning...


User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 136, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 12904 times:

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 101):
SNN-FAO has being extended from 13 September to 24 October, reduces from 3 to 2 weekly but a postive sign that EI are happy with the route, ORK-PMI willbe dropped to fit it in.

How is that possible? Those routes are outgoing pax, not incoming. The Cork area has way more citizens then Shannon/Limerick right?

I know FR flies the route too, but is often very expensive. I'm afraid that will only go up. Where are those 25 euro tickets I am used to??



Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 12741 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 136):
I know FR flies the route too, but is often very expensive. I'm afraid that will only go up. Where are those 25 euro tickets I am used to??

FR is not in the business of providing low fares if it can at all avoid doing so. If there's demand, they're not cheap.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 138, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12611 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 137):
FR is not in the business of providing low fares if it can at all avoid doing so. If there's demand, they're not cheap.

Indeed. FR have been very expensive. I have been over and back to London twice in the last 10 days and their fares were alot more than EI BA BE . I always check just in case but have not flown them for nearly two years and thats the reason.


User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 139, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12596 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 137):
FR is not in the business of providing low fares if it can at all avoid doing so

That's so unfair..  



Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 140, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 12460 times:

Shannon Airport have have a new look website (well mainly the homepage only) and have an airport app.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 141, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12333 times:

Some interesting figures from SNN.

DAA deal puts Shannon value at under €35m

SHANNON Airport is valued at €35m under the deal that frees the airport from the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA), according to documents seen by the Irish Independent.

The DAA will take on €14m of Shannon debt under the deal, according to the documents.

Shannon Airport has been separated from the DAA following a government decision made at the end of last year, but it will remain in state hands.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...n-value-at-under-35m-29255438.html


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 142, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12217 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 141):
DAA deal puts Shannon value at under €35m

I know it is not exactly the hottest asset in the country in terms of profitability and real estate values are not exactly at their prime but €35m sure does seem awful low!



Next Flights: 27/06/14 CX 178 MEL-HKG; 28/06/14 CX 830 HKG-JFK; 04/07/14 EI 134 BOS-SNN
User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 143, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12195 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 142):
I know it is not exactly the hottest asset in the country in terms of profitability and real estate values are not exactly at their prime but €35m sure does seem awful low!

It really sounds low, it must be based on just the value of the land or something like that. I'm sure it would fetch far more than that as a going concern on the open market.

Stobart bought SEN for £21M stg in 2008. And STN was sold for £1.5bn.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 144, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11969 times:

Aer Lingus Regional plans Southend expansion

Quote:
Aer Lingus Regional flew its new ATR aircraft from Dublin to London Southend Airport this week after with hopes to boost the service in the coming months.

The service, operated by Aer Arann, is due to fly a record 5,600 people this month, a year after it was launched. Throughout those 12 months more than 55,000 people have flown on the route.

Plans to increase it to 4 daily are encouraging and a bit surprising.

http://www.traveldailymedia.com/1538...end-expansion#.UYzoxXAQM6k.twitter


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 145, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11964 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 144):
Plans to increase it to 4 daily are encouraging and a bit surprising.

I thought comments about them axing SEN were just guess work though to be honest. Its certainly encouraging and still on my to do list  


User currently offlineIre2008 From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11716 times:

Flew to SEN yesterday on the new ATR72-600. Had never been on a prop before. Must say hugely impressed! Felt like more legeoom than airbuses. Comfortable enough seats for 1 to 1.5hr flights. Friendly crew and the smallest, easiest and most silent airport ive been to! A real competitor to the London market with the train if marketed more. We got te water canon salute and all!

Kevin


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 147, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11720 times:

Some interesting charter airlines into DUB SNN ORK for Summer :

Air Explore Code : OR / ORK-REU / SNN-REU / ORK-PMI / ORK-LPA Capacity 168 seats .

Alba Star Code: JQ / DUB-PMI Capacity 170 seats .

Avion Code : X9 / DUB-REU / DUB-IBZ / DUB-PMI / DUB-TFS / DUB-FAO / DUB-LPA / DUB-ACE Capacity 138 seats.


User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2147 posts, RR: 4
Reply 148, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11497 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 147):
DUB-IBZ

I knew my brother 's IBZ flight would flown by Avion Expres, this was originally an Orbest flight.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 149, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11437 times:



DL restarted their seasonal daily SNN-JFK service today; it runs until mid-September. The route's average load factor last summer was 91% and SFO, MCO and LAS are among the most popular onward connections for SNN passengers.

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1980



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineaer lingus From Ireland, joined Mar 2001, 529 posts, RR: 4
Reply 150, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11160 times:

Some bizzare incident happened at DUB this morning. Apperently a car flipped over outside T2.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0511/391671-rta/



Split Scimitar or Sharklets?
User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 151, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11071 times:
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Quoting aer lingus (Reply 150):
DL restarted their seasonal daily SNN-JFK service today; it runs until mid-September. The route's average load factor last summer was 91% and SFO, MCO and LAS are among the most popular onward connections for SNN passengers.

Good to hear that DL are doing well (at least during the summer) at SNN. They are afterall the longest serving US airline at SNN. A 91% load factor would also indicate that Business Class demand must be fairly good on their SNN-JFK flights. I wonder if there is any possibility of SNN-ATL returning for S14?



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 152, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11011 times:

Glad to see this finally up and running. Hopefully it will be rolled out to all areas sooner rather than later. The UK has had them for some time now and its proved a great success. I used the ones at LGW last week and was from the aircraft to the train station in less than 10 minutes.

I would also like to see a priority channel for J Class/Gold card holders and maybe a subscription service for frequent flyers.

Dublin Airport testing 'self-service' border control

A six-month trial of "self-service" automated border control gates has started at Terminal One in Dublin Airport.
This will mean that holders of Irish, EU, EEA and Swiss passports aged over 18 will not be required to present themselves to an Immigration Officer.

Instead they will have the picture on their passport verified electronically.
The e-gates will be located at Pier A to Pier D in Terminal One, which facilitates the entry of 4.4m passengers to the State every year.

The e-gate trial is being run in co-operation with the Dublin Airport Authority.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0510/391...border-control-for-dublin-airport/


User currently offlineEICPT From Ireland, joined Jun 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10902 times:

Aer Lingus have this morning re-opened the Cadet Pilot Training Programme for 2013, with details posted on their Facebook page earlier. An interesting career path for anyone interested I'm sure!

http://careers.aerlingus.com/careers-in-the-air/cadet-pilots/

EICPT



EI FR RE BA VS KL LH LX CO AA BD IG TY BV IB CC
User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 154, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10830 times:

Looks like BE are leaving LGW, so it good for EI at BHD where LGW has being doing very bad however I'm not sure that BE are the problem, IMO its the serous over capacity on Belfast to London market and Easyjet over at BFS. Wonder will this have any affect on the future of EI service from BHD or have they made a decision already. FR are also after the 25 BE slots....

User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 155, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10816 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 152):
I used the ones at LGW last week and was from the aircraft to the train station in less than 10 minutes.

So 3 minutes slower than normal then?  



(that is of course the domestic/Irish arrivals speed, the UKBA queues can be horrific)


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 156, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 10594 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 155):
So 3 minutes slower than normal then?  

Sometimes it can be quite a bit longer especially if you have people that are intent of holding up the ROI line. I was lucky I managed to make an earlier train. Sometimes a few mins can mean all the difference  


User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 157, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10482 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 156):
Sometimes it can be quite a bit longer especially if you have people that are intent of holding up the ROI line. I was lucky I managed to make an earlier train. Sometimes a few mins can mean all the difference  

The specific flight I use a lot comes in when there's no others that qualify, and I try and get as close to the front as possible. Those few minutes mean getting a Southern (much, much better) rather than a First Capital train, and ensures I get to the Amex on time!


User currently offlinelinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 158, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10288 times:

Hi all,

I'm relatively new to all this. I'm a Belfast local. Not surprised to hear that the London-Belfast routes are over capacity. Are airliners frightened of losing slots at those airports? Who is filling most of the seats on the BHD-LHR route?

Regards

Colin


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3508 posts, RR: 2
Reply 159, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10171 times:

I see that today's EI362 to Warsaw has been operated by Titan's 767. Does anyone know the reason?

User currently offlineJamie2k9 From Ireland, joined Jan 2012, 175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 160, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10168 times:

Quoting Danny (Reply 159):

Not sure of the reason but EI had 2 aircraft tech in Amsterdam and Paris on Saturday, another had a brid strike on Saturday, last nights BCN-DUB was delayed by about 4h30m because of tech problems. Would imagine its aircraft problems or crewing problems. EI-DVF which left the EI fleet on 15 April has left DUB to return to leasor this morning. All these sub operatores are going to cost EI, over the last few weeks Titan have operated many flights for EI because of their problems.

[Edited 2013-05-13 05:30:36]

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 161, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10097 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 157):
Those few minutes mean getting a Southern (much, much better)

I seem always to have cancellations and delays with Southern . Lost £10 last week because of them. Still not worth the hassle of claiming back via their long refund process.

Quoting linco22 (Reply 158):
Who is filling most of the seats on the BHD-LHR route?

Well exact figures are obviously commercially sensitive. Ive heard some numbers mentioned but BA seem to be holding their own.


User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 251 posts, RR: 0
Reply 162, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9769 times:

Any thoughts of the roll out image of the A350-900 and how it would look in EI colors?

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/5/8/2260853.jpg

It is a thumbs up from me, just love that nose. Will we see the current classic EI livery or will they whip up a new modernised masterpiece for such a great looking aircraft?



1APR14 Ireland Direct, 3 A380-9LR,Equiped Irish Bar & Casino. All Y+ seating. Serving DUB-PER-SYD/MEL
User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 163, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9654 times:
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I see TS have resumed their summer SNN-YYZ service as of today. With DL having started earlier this week, US due to start next week and SNN-ORD with UA commencing in June as well as the other new UK and European services that have started/are about to start, SNN's arrivals/departures boards are looking much less barren than they have in the recent past (specially this past winter).


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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4626 posts, RR: 23
Reply 164, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9582 times:

Quoting Jambost (Reply 162):
It is a thumbs up from me, just love that nose. Will we see the current classic EI livery or will they whip up a new modernised masterpiece for such a great looking aircraft?

Let's hope they keep the current livery. Any update would probably mean a whole load of white and that should be avoided!



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 165, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9527 times:

Quoting Jambost (Reply 162):

Love it and cant wait too see it in Aer Lingus livery. Also looking forward to any new products EI will offer along with it.


User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 166, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9460 times:
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Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 164):
Let's hope they keep the current livery. Any update would probably mean a whole load of white and that should be avoided!

I'm with you on this point.


User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1596 posts, RR: 1
Reply 167, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9474 times:

For those of you who use Twitter, @AerLingus has become active and is tweeting like there is no tomorrow since yesterday.

User currently onlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1462 posts, RR: 3
Reply 168, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9408 times:

A good measure of the extent of the freefall of the Celtic Tiger is given in the Irish Air Letter current issue

Small helicopters registered in Ireland (below 2,250kg)
In 2008 = 107, in 2012 = 32. Over this size, heli numbers have only halved, going from 31 to 15.


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 169, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9357 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 168):
A good measure of the extent of the freefall of the Celtic Tiger is given in the Irish Air Letter current issue

Small helicopters registered in Ireland (below 2,250kg)
In 2008 = 107, in 2012 = 32. Over this size, heli numbers have only halved, going from 31 to 15.

Yeah, it was one of the "must have" accessories of property developers, most of which have fled to far off shores leaving only the echoes of rotary blades over a haunted ghost estate landscape behind them. 


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12408 posts, RR: 37
Reply 170, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9121 times:

I think it will look great; it's a fine looking aircraft. It wouldn't surprise me if EI introduced a new livery

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 166):
Let's hope they keep the current livery. Any update would probably mean a whole load of white and that should be avoided!I'm with you on this point.

I agree; sadly, there are so many "bleh" liveries around at the moment; I was at LHR yesterday and saw the JAL 77W come in; MY GOD, how did they come up with something as unimaginative as that? White, "Japan Airlines" titles and then, the crane on the tail; clearly, they didn't waste any money on it ... and Finnair isn't much better. And as for IB's proposed new scheme ... ay carumba!

Let's hope that if they do something new for the A350, that it will be something imaginative ...

Still wondering what kind of config they'll be going for; it will almost certainly be 9 abreast in Y Class; perhaps we'll see the launch of a premium Y service?


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 171, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9001 times:

Just reading an article on VS' "Little Red" operation and it got me thinking; do EI pilots operating these flights have to wear VS uniforms as the cabin crew do? Seeing as the pilots are hardly seen at all compared to the crew I don't know how economical that would be.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 170):
White, "Japan Airlines" titles and then, the crane on the tail; clearly, they didn't waste any money on it

It's literally a step backwards in time. JL had that livery before the "Rising Sun" one (which I think looked great). Then they underwent a massive restructuring and launched that old crane livery again - it looks terrible and old fashioned I think. One would have thought they'd go for a more modern look to symbolise a new beginning for them...

Also keeping to the A350 roll-out discussion - does this signal the beginning of the end for the three A330-200s in EI's fleet? EI-LAX and EI-DAA are shoving on a bit now in comparison with their -300 counterparts and with the 757 operation (and presumably A321NEOs succeeding them) and the A350 order will there be an issue with over-capacity in the EI longhaul fleet? Wouldn't the A321NEO (~200 seats), A330-300 (322 seats) and A350-900 (~366 seats) be varied enough to support EI's future longhaul needs?



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 172, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8983 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 171