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Turkish Aviation May 2013  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14016 times:

Hello Friends,
Welcome to the May edition of "Turkish Aviation" thread;


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-I guess we are all done with "orders" for most of the Turkish airline companies for sometime.
Now, it is time to build a new airport in Istanbul and the tender is due in a few days. Too bad the number of bids are going to be around 3-5. Good Luck to them, hope they can start on time and finish the first phase by late 2017.

-There is talk of a strike at TK, probably won't happen.

Please continue from where we left off, especially the role of ESB for the near future.

TK787

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User currently offlineankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 13940 times:

Thnaks to TK105 for the extensive information on ESB and is network potential, expectations etc.

However, I disgaree that any other alliance other than Star has no chance in ESB. In fact One World (through Air Berlin /Pegasus) has some chance to grow so BA can step in,

Also Skyteam should cover the airport with KL and AF and AZ all of which will make good business.

The reports prepared by TAV do not refer to ESB North America traffic. There is considerable transit traffic between North America and ESB too. We covered this topic in former debates, I mentioned the ESB JFK route introduction (in fact to be reinstated would be a right term to use as PAN AM flew the route between 1955 and 1990) and of course lots of discussion took place. I still think that it would work very well intially on thrice weekly basis.


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 13780 times:

What I think is ESB needs a hometown carrier that can emulate TK on a smaller scale, if TK itself is unwilling to do so, by creating a regional hub between Europe, N. Africa, Central Asia and MidEast. AnadoluJet is TK, so that leaves PC as the only candidate. Now, if PC can base at least 15-20 or so of its orders at ESB, it can carry traffic between these regions and possibly Turkish hinterland as well. It would also serve O&D at Ankara too.

Maybe TK will eventually expand into ESB, it is just waiting to reach critical mass at IST (the way LH branched into MUC after FRA was saturated).


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13650 times:

Diyarbakir's reception ceremony at KUL on 25 April 2013.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHXcK8Pf4G0

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jzVcu0Pmx8A/UXnzOTkh6wI/AAAAAAAAJ7A/0NL51zvVeJ4/s1600/Turkish+Airlines+Inaugural+Flight+to+Kuala+Lumpur.jpg

[Edited 2013-05-01 08:01:27]

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25335 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13633 times:

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 1):
In fact One World (through Air Berlin /Pegasus) has some chance to grow so BA can step in,

Except Sabanci specifically said PC would not join an alliance as it would complicate the business.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 1):
(in fact to be reinstated would be a right term to use as PAN AM flew the route between 1955 and 1990)

In reality PA flew many places around the world regardless of economics. Ankara service which was intermittent over the decades and was no different. The last attempt with 727 service via IST a few times per week was lucky to have 30-40 people onboard with most actually bound for Germany not the US.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2974 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13503 times:

I remember we tried to do this before (some months or even years ago). Is there a chance that we can compile a COMPLETE list of all different subtypes of TK. What I mean is for example in various booking systems the aircraft type shows 77C which obviously is a 777-300ER; however, there are others which aren't that clear to me. I'm pretty sure this is connected with the differentiation of leased and owned aircraft. It would be perfect to add the particular registrations to that list as well. Here is what I've found so far:

315 / A319-100 / ...
316 / A319-100 / ...
1AJ / (used by Anadolujet I guess)
2AJ - same
31D
32C / A32... / ...
32L / A32... / ...
32N / A32... / ...
32R / A32... / ...
33Q / A330-... / ...
3MF / A330-... / ...
73W / B737-... / ...
73Y / B73.-... / ...
77C / B777-300ER / ...
78D
78V
79B
7AJ
8AJ


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13485 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 3):

Are you sure this is the correct video link?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25335 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13491 times:

There are multiple internal aircraft codes. Some are operational others are commercial for use in things like GDS.

Anyhow here is latest company fleet list dated April 30.

The list specific list has two aircraft codes one commercial and second an operational one

Registration / Type / DVS Code / OPS Code / Seats

TC-JDJ A340-311 340 343 270
TC-JDK A340-312 342 342 270
TC-JDL A340-311 340 343 270
TC-JDM A340-311 340 343 270
TC-JDN A340-313 343 343H 270
TC-JIH A340-313 343 343H 270
TC-JII A340-313 343 343H 270
TC-JNA A330-203 332 332 250
TC-JNB A330-203 332 332 250
TC-JNC A330-203 332 332 250
TC-JND A330-203 332 332 250
TC-JNE A330-203 332 332 250
TC-JNF A330-203 33Q 33Q 281
TC-JNG A330-203 33Q 33Q 281
TC-JNH A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNI A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNJ A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNK A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNL A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNM A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNN A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNO A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNP A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JNR A330-343 333 333 289
TC-JDO A330-243F 33X 33X Freighter
TC-JDP A330-243F 33X 33X Freighter
TC-JDR A330-243F 33X 33X Freighter
TC-JCT A310-304F 31Y 31YJCT Freighter
TC-JCY A310-304F 31Y 31YJCVYZ Freighter
TC-JCZ A310-304F 31Y 31YJCVYZ Freighter
TC-JLM A319-132 319 319 132
TC-JLN A319-132 319 319 132
TC-JLO A319-132 315 319 132
TC-JLP A319-132 315 319 132
TC-JLR A319-132 31D 319 138
TC-JLS A319-132 316 319 132
TC-JLT A319-132 316 319 132
TC-JLU A319-132 316 319 132
TC-JLV A319-132 316 319 132
TC-JLY A319-132 316 319 132
TC-JLZ A319-132 316 319 132
TC-JUA A319-132 31E 319 132
TC-JUB A319-132 31E 319 132
TC-JUD A319-132 31E 319 132
TC-JLJ A320-232 32L 32L77 162
TC-JLK A320-232 32L 32L77 162
TC-JLL A320-232 32E 32E77 167
TC-JPA A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPB A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPC A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPD A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPE A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPF A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPG A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPH A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPI A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPJ A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPK A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPL A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPM A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPN A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPO A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPP A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPR A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPS A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPT A320-232 320 320 159
TC-JPU A320-214 32C 32C77 150
TC-JPV A320-214 32C 32C77 150
TC-JPY A320-214 32C 32C77 150
TC-JAI A320-232 32G 32G150 150
TC-JBI A320-232 32G 32G150 150
TC-JUG A320-232 B32 B32 180
TC-JRA A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRB A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRC A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRD A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRE A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRF A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRG A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRH A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRI A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRJ A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRK A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRL A321-231 321 321 194
TC-JRM A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRN A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRO A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRP A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRR A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRS A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRT A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRU A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRV A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRY A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JRZ A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JSA A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JSB A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JSC A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JSD A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JSE A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JSF A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JSG A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JSH A321-231 32R 32R 180
TC-JMH A321-232 32N 32N 178
TC-JMI A321-232 32N 32N 178
TC-JMJ A321-232 32N 32N 178
TC-JMK A321-232 32N 32N 178
TC-JML A321-231 32J 32J 194
TC-JDG B737-400 734 73422K 150
TC-JDH B737-400 734 73422K 150
TC-JDT B737-400 734 73422K 150
TC-JFC B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFE B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFH B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFI B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFJ B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFK B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFN B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFO B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFP B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFR B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFT B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFU B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFV B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JFZ B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JGA B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JGB B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JGC B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JGD B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JGF B737-800W 738 738W 165
TC-JGG B737-800W 737 737WHIGH 155
TC-JGH B737-800W 737 737WHIGH 155
TC-JGI B737-800W 737 737WHIGH 155
TC-JGJ B737-800W 738 738WHIGH 165
TC-JGK B737-800W 738 738WHIGH 165
TC-JGL B737-800W 73U 738WHIGH 165
TC-JGM B737-800W 738 738WHIGH 165
TC-JGN B737-800W 738 738WHIGH 165
TC-JGO B737-800W 73U 738WHIGH 165
TC-JGP B737-800W 738 738WHIGH 165
TC-JGR B737-800W 737 737WHIGH 155
TC-JGS B737-800W 737 737WHIGH 155
TC-JGT B737-800W 737 737WHIGH 155
TC-JGU B737-800W 737 737WHIGH 165
TC-JGV B737-800W 737 737WHIGH 155
TC-JGY B737-800WSFP 738 738WSFP 165
TC-JGZ B737-800WSFP 738 738WSFP 165
TC-JHA B737-800WSFP 738 738WSFP 165
TC-JHB B737-800WSFP 738 738WSFP 165
TC-JHC B737-800WSFP 738 738WSFP 165
TC-JHD B737-800WSFP 738 738WSFP 165
TC-JHE B737-800WSFP 738 738WSFP 165
TC-JHF B737-800WSFP 738 738WSFP 165
TC-JHG B737-800W 73A 738W24K189 189
TC-JHH B737-800W 73A 738W24K189 189
TC-JHJ B737-800 73E 73827K189 189
TC-JHK B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JHL B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JHM B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JHN B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JHO B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JHP B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JHR B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JHS B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JHT B737-800WSFP 78D 738WSFP151 151
TC-JYA B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYB B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYC B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYD B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYE B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYF B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYG B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYH B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYI B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JYJ B737-900ER 79B 739 151
TC-JKJ B737-700W 73W 73W24K124 124
TC-JKK B737-700W 73W 73W24K124 124
TC-JKN B737-700W 73W 73W24K124 124
TC-JKO B737-700W 73W 73W24K124 124
TC-JKP B737-700W 73Y 73Y62 149
TC-JKR B737-700W 73Y 73Y62 149
TC-JJE B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJF B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJG B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJH B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJI B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJJ B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJK B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJL B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJM B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJN B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJO B777-300ER 77C 77C 337
TC-JJP B777-300ER 77C 77C 337

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User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2974 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13382 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):

awesome! thank you...


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13345 times:

Is it true that all 78Ds are equipped with PTVs and 2x2 C class seating?


Coffee - Tea or Me?
User currently offlineSteelyman From Andorra, joined Feb 2007, 118 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13315 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 9):
Is it true that all 78Ds are equipped with PTVs and 2x2 C class seating?

Yes, it features AVOD in all seats and 2x2 C/CL configuration



BRGDS, Mike
User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13301 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 6):
Are you sure this is the correct video link?

Gosh, so sorry. Here is the correct link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwY8nDHObaI


User currently offlineTK105 From Turkey, joined Mar 2013, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13238 times:

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 1):
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 2):

I think long distance flights for ESB is still early. For such flights you need enough domestic and medium distance international flights for connecting transfer passengers. Otherwise you always have to rely on O&D traffic resulting lower yields even if you can find enough loads. ESB has very good domestic connections but medium distance international flights are missing.

I do not believe that Pegasus would ever be a dominant player in ESB (as in IST). To my view, passengers of Pegasus are the same group of people who used to be traveling with Varan 15 years back: Students, Private Business Owners (Doctors, Lawyers, Architects, etc), Young Professionals having private trips, Educated people visiting their summer houses; belonging to Medium-Medium/Upper Class with Secular Lifestyle.

Demand in ESB for international destinations is premium traffic which is corporate travelers. All such companies already have agreements with TK for certain benefits for corporates and additional benefits for decision makers in the companies. Even a simplest construction worker does not want LCC ticket as it is paid by the company. Similarly engineers or managers complains a lot if LCC ever have to be used. For example 2-3 years back in our company we had to use Anadolujet for ESB-AMS as it was the only alternative and it was a big headache for management after a few flights. Similarly a few months back one of our clients had to make TLV-ESB but TK tickets were very high. His company management opted to buy a Pegasus ticket for TLV-SAW-ESB-SAW-TLV. During the 3 days this person stayed, he complaint about the flight. For 1 hour flights (i.e. domestic) LCC is Ok, but longer flights it is not good for corporate travelers.

On an other note, now 3rd parallel runway for ESB, Government is taking new steps. It looks like it will be tendered with in 2013 or early next year. It will have 60m width and be able to accommodate A380.

http://wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112353 (Turkish Only)

Also next year extension of subway to ESB will be tendered. The idea is to transfer passengers going to nearby cities by fast trains from ESB. This will improve ESB's position as a transfer airport.

http://wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111306 (Turkish Only)

Together with the new exhibition grounds and hotels planned, as well as a probable extension of terminal, we may see a whole new ESB in a few years.

Then comes the next topic : Is Esenboga a good name for this airport. I leave this for another time.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25335 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12948 times:

Its time to find out about the new airport tender.

So far TAV put out a press release that they formally submitted their bid to the government on Tuesday.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12871 times:

Quoting TK105 (Reply 12):

Today all members should be excited about the new IST airport tender so I am not going to make a long discussion topic.

I think ESB case is not very difficult to restore. Immediate future development should be to reinstate some routes suspended or start new international routes and this will make it work;

Underserved routes; AMS (KL to step in), MUC (TK to step in), VIE (OS to step in), GYD (TK to step in), Arbil (TK to step in),

Routes to be introduced: LHR by BA and TK, Kiev by TK, Tripoli by TK, DXB by EK, CDG by AF, FCO by AZ or TK, ORY by TK, CPH by TK, ZRH by TK or LX, AMM by TK or RJ, Riyadh by TK, Tebriz (by TK), Batumi (by TK), Cairo (by TK or MS) + various CIS destinations to be served mainly by TK like Bishkek, Almaty, Ashgabat etc. The CIS flights can be triangle flights.

This will give sufficient boost also to Turkish domestic connections and will put ESB on the map for an initial step.

How likely is this, we will see.


User currently offlineTK105 From Turkey, joined Mar 2013, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 12818 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13):

You can follow online the tendering minutes:

http://www.airporthaber.com/canli (Turkish)


User currently offlineTK105 From Turkey, joined Mar 2013, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12688 times:

AMAN ALLAHIM.... (Oh my god)

Price is already above 21.000.000.000 Euro + Complete Construction...

What an open bid. This is once in a life time only...


User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2974 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12672 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13):
So far TAV put out a press release that they formally submitted their bid to the government on Tuesday.

TAV is out of the game... currently LIMAK and IC/FRAPORT are at 22.130.000.000 EUR...


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12657 times:

Honestly, this is insane. These companies are claiming that they can cover the 8-9 bn euros of construction costs AND pay 22 billon euros as rent for the airport? I doubt any airport can bring in over 30 billion euros over 25 years, (let's not forget operating costs and any profit the consortium is hoping to make). I know the rent is spread out over the lifetime of the project, but that coupled with financing costs for the construction can cripple any company.

User currently offlineumit From Turkey, joined May 2009, 130 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12630 times:

I watcted the tender and found it very interesting that lower bid at first round was 4 billion and highest was 9 billion then it had gone up to +22 billion ? what a calculations bidders made ?

User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12624 times:

And Limak-Cengiz-Mapa-Kalyon OGG wins the bid with a 22 billion 152 million Euros before taxes...

Let's hope that we see the new airport relatively on schedule..



Coffee - Tea or Me?
User currently offlinegokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12555 times:

I wanted TAV for operational reasons I really think they know what they are doing. The price is outrageous and the winning group was going to bid higher no matter what. Limak is owned by someone extremely close to PM and has ten fold his net worth in last 10 years.


Gercekleri Tarih Yazar Tarihide Galatasaray
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25335 posts, RR: 49
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12449 times:

I started a separate thread about the new airport tender since last time it received broad interest from A.net members that dont come and visit this thread directly.

New Istanbul Airport Tender Awarded (by LAXintl May 3 2013 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12215 times:

From airporthaber;
RTE says Tokyo flights to go 3 x daily.
I think he signed the nuclear reactor tender with the Japanese partner yesterday.
We know that TK doesn't have the metal yet, but is there demand for 3 x daily? Even in a decade?


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12021 times:

More news from TK:
http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...hyden-yeni-havalimani-hamlesi.html

TK's Hamdi TOPCU;
-3 x daily flights to JFK is not enough, might have to make a decision by the end of the year for 380/748, the same number of pax could be carried with 2 flights instead of 3.
-TK will fly to Caracas, Havana and Mexico City in 2013.
-TK marketing budget is up to $130M annually.


25 LAXintl : Maybe what they meant to say was Japan was going to go 3x daily. At the moment TK is limited to 14x weekly frequencies to Japan. With the nuclear dea
26 LAXintl : I hear Saga Airlines shut down or was grounded by the DGCA due financial issues.
27 JMO-777 : Hi, are there already hints of which airplane will get painted in Borussia Dortmund colors? Thanks, Jan
28 ASA : Does this justify getting a new - that too a VLA? How many other routes would need it? The other way to deal with this might be increasing 77W freque
29 TK787 : I bet only a 77W will do. Since Barca and ManU planes need a new paint job after those sponsorships end. JFK. Also he mentions China routes and HKG.
30 TK787 : TK is going ahead with plans to open more routes. 4 more this month; Isparta (Domestic), Santiago De Compostela, Malta and Salzburg. What happened to
31 Steelyman : IST-KTM-IST is open for sales in GDS to be operated by a 330-200 as of 01SEP
32 TK787 : Cool, Cross another destination from the wish list. I think it is slightly out of the range for TK 739ERs.[Edited 2013-05-08 10:52:50]
33 leftyboarder : Thanks! Happen to have access to the schedule?
34 Post contains images Steelyman : ISTKTM: .2.45.7 2145IST 0715*1 TK 726 3HF KTMIST: 1.3.56. 0845 1340IST TK 727 3HF For 739ER below you can see the comparison between 739ER range vs IS
35 ASA : Thanks for the map! Also, Trivuban airport (KTM) is at an elevation of 4400 ft ... eating into the payload / range of 739ER
36 behramjee : These timings will 100% have to be changed due to visibility issues and fog at KTM between OCT and MAR. Even in SEP, the earliest u can arrive is at
37 HB-IWC : Indeed a great move. TK will become the fastest option in many European markets. QR will not be thrilled at this move. I can see this flight go daily
38 777way : I think this is from ch-aviation.ch but found it quoted elsewhere with no reference: "myCargo Airlines (9T, Istanbul Atatürk/Yesilköy International
39 LAXintl : Yes the A300's were grounded. But the companies name is still ACT Airlines.
40 Post contains links TK105 : Very interesting: LH 1781 MUC-ADB flight diverted to Cigli Air Force Airbase due to fuel critical. Plane is now waiting at airbase. http://www.airport
41 LAXintl : I see TK is introducing the Do&Co flying chef concept on the 14x weekly Dubai services. TK now has 222 Do&Co flying chefs serving 16 markets.
42 CaliAtenza : I guess TK has abandoned its plan of opening further Indian destinations?
43 LAXintl : Its not a question of abandoning anything, TK as an airline cant do anything until a more liberal air-service agreement is reached between the governm
44 CaliAtenza : What is the main problem right now in liberalising the air services agreement?
45 leftyboarder : The Government of India.
46 Post contains links boun : Has anyone seen this? http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...a-kurulundan-sok-kotil-karari.html (Turkish) It seems TK management is in the midst of a
47 Post contains links Northstar80 : Well, the link doesnt work, but I saw this; http://ekonomi.milliyet.com.tr/thy-d.../ekonomi/detay/1707259/default.htm says; "Türk Hava Yolları (THY
48 OA260 : Pegasus will launch a new service from Istanbul (SAW) to Athens from 29th June and the service will be daily. Flights are open for booking now. The fa
49 TK787 : It is early to make a judgement, but if this stuff is true it all makes sense that they give conflicting news recently. About the fleet, Australia fl
50 IndianicWorld : With the new airport to be built at IST, I can't see the need. I would love to see ESB get more service though.
51 Steelyman : Can anyone make quick translation of the latest issue with Kotil and Topçu for non-turkish speakers please? Thanks,
52 TK787 : Sounds like last week Hamdi Topcu (Chairman of the TK Board) decided to give Temel Kotil (TK CEO) a paid leave. Kotil returns to Turkey from London r
53 TK105 : Well, Temel Kotil represents the global values in TK (as far as I follow on the media, any contribution from inside of TK will be greatly appreciated
54 Post contains links Steelyman : I think this is new from this afternoon, Topçu about the strike? http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...di-topcudan-calisanlara-cagri.html
55 LAXintl : Don't forget the political prism regarding management decisions. The Erdogan and Gul push and pull politics are well represented at TK through its man
56 Post contains links TK787 : Maybe things resolved for the time being between Topcu and Kotil; http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-after-ceo-kotil-s-suspension.html
57 777way : Wiki says Thessaloniki too.
58 Steelyman : TK recently announced all Spanish destinations to be daily by next winter season (end of OCT13): BCN - 21 weekly MAD - 20 weekly AGP - 7 weekly VLC -
59 Post contains links TK787 : Trying to see if TK warning the pax for tomorrow's possible strike in English, I couldn't find anything. But this; http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-t
60 Post contains links LAXintl : El Al is seeking to resume service to Turkey. The topic will be discussed in meetings with security and defense officials. El Al pulled out from Turke
61 boun : What do you guys think about the strike? The news and the explanations of the union contradict. How long can the airline sustain its flights efficient
62 TK787 : Really? Has it been that long?? Wow, that is incredible.
63 TK787 : A lot of he said, she said.. But looks like only a small number of members did strike and not affecting the flight schedule of TK. Hamdi Topcu looks
64 Post contains links LAXintl : While TAV might have lost on the new Istanbul Airport, they won bid to design and build a $400mil terminal and support facilities in Riyadh. This is T
65 TK105 : This new terminal is urgently needed for RUH. Congratulations to TAV. Few years back I had to wait at RUH for 8 hours. It was such a terrible experie
66 Post contains links TK787 : http://www.airkule.com/default.asp?page=haber&id=14493 AJet is adding 10 more domestic destinations from SAW. With more TK and more Pegasus flight
67 Post contains links TK787 : -New bilaterals with Japan grants Turkey 42 freqs, 14 to Narita and 7 to Nagoya. -Also TC-JHU, TK 737-800 gets the Borussia Dortmund livery; http://ko
68 777way : Saga only operating an A320? why.
69 TK787 : I'm on board TK 2 as I type this. Happy to report that it is a full flight on all classes. 2 hours delayed but so far so good. Meal service started. A
70 Post contains links and images LAXintl : THY partnering with the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of İnterior Affairs for an online "e-Visa" program. Program will allow trave
71 Post contains images gokmengs : I am amazed they allowed that racist guy back again... Hey guys hope all is well. I was on TK 11 yesterday in J row 1. Horrendous boarding, with no pr
72 Steelyman : Yesterday TK started its 1st flight to SCQ, with a first occupation of around 70% IST-SCQ and 95% SCQ-IST. This flight starts as 3 weekly and goes dai
73 LAXintl : In bilateral talks with Russia, the Turkish delegation proposed increasing the number of routes between the nation. Additional service points of Samar
74 777way : Is that country specific?
75 TK787 : SImilar situation with me. I seem like the only person in a tshirt, everyone is covered up in blankets and asking for more heat. I've overheard pax a
76 Post contains images Northstar80 : The on-board wifi is going to grow to be a problem for TK, people complaining from inside the plane Having lived in the US for many years, I think I
77 gokmengs : Its a subject I really spent time investigating. I found what you said in your post, People from US are much used to colder indoor temps, as opposed
78 LAXintl : For those in the US, TK starting on Monday will offer a special promotion of $575/rt on tickets to Istanbul from Washington. They also have another sp
79 Nimish : Is there any link with the T&Cs of this sale? Any date restrictions or duration of stay restrictions?
80 TurkishWings : Great news for me... Thanks for sharing...
81 Post contains links LAXintl : The IAH special offers are posted already. http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us...ll&class=economy&tab=specialprices The IAD sale will be post
82 TK787 : Hello everyone, I have a tight connection and have an question. Has anyone recently experienced JFK Terminal 1 Customs clearing times? For a Tuesday,
83 Post contains links LAXintl : I have flown TK3 twice. Customs was pretty quiet. One time there was an AF flight about the same time, the second time it was the KE A380, but still v
84 TK787 : Thanks as usual. Yes global entry I am trying to fit in. I just had to get a new 52 page passport when I realized that no more empty visa pages left.
85 Post contains links TK105 : Next milestone for Turkish Jet Fighter on 29th of Oct. is approaching, which will replace F-16s by mid 2020s. Details are here: http://www.hurriyet.co
86 OA260 : That E Visa still has technical issues. Website often crashes and help desk is not that helpful. I got an email back from them last week which didn't
87 Post contains images gokmengs : Oh my god lax, you wrote my reply At that time of the day you should be fine. I say you have more than enough time to make your EWR flight. As for gl
88 Post contains links tozbek : Iran's Qeshm Air bought ex-Onur's A300-600's:
89 stylo777 : how? isn't there an embargo?
90 ElPistolero : Haven't been posted so far.
91 LAXintl : Sure they have. $575 IAD fares are available online. For example you can make dummy IAD-IST-IAD bookings - Nov 14 - Nov 20 = $575 including tax. Also
92 TurkishWings : The IAH offer is only good for travel until May 31. That doesn't make sense... Only for another week? The availability of 575$ fare is much more limit
93 TurkishWings : Has anyone tried the UA service to IST yet?
94 Post contains images BLRAviation : The T&C for Mumbai ex IAH copy pasted from the TK website. If last day to commence travel is 31 May 2013, I am confused by the website accepting
95 Tupolev160 : TK risks bleeding heavily in KTM, especially if flown by A330. The perception of Turkey (unlike the Gulf states and their airlines) is virtually non-e
96 Post contains images ASA : But Nepal is a popular destination for Europeans and Americans, right? (like Maldives, I suppose) Isn't TK planning to catch the European feed for th
97 Post contains links Tupolev160 : I'm sure TK numbers would improve dramatically if more than 10% of people in Turkey actually had a passport to travel abroad. http://en.wikipedia.org
98 HB-IWC : It seems that the plan to operate the 3 leased 9W B77W aircraft on the IST GRU EZE and IST ICN route has been reversed. The Jet Airways aircraft will
99 Northstar80 : I remember a few months ago TK CEO said publicly that they leased 7 77Ws and that those airplanes would start flying for TK startin april (iirc). Wha
100 leftyboarder : Maybe it was a miscommunication, maybe he meant 7 long haul planes? 2 330s are already leased, and 3 77Ws will join from 9W. So maybe he hopes to fin
101 TK787 : And 2 x 333s arriving later this year. Maybe that is the math.
102 ankaraflyjet : Iraqi Airways will start twice weekly Baghdad Ankara Baghdad flights from June. TK also flies the route thrice weekly.
103 LAXintl : Here is another unique market for TK. Mazar-i-Sharif in Afghanistan. 2x weekly starting June 16th. Wed/Sun IST-MZR 0010-0615 738 MZR-IST 0800-1155 738
104 TK787 : It is incredible, wow! Still May31st here in Pepper spray smelly Istanbul, and I will start our new thread tomorrow as usual.
105 Post contains links santos : It has already been started on here: Turkish Aviation June 2013 (by Tupolev160 May 31 2013 in Civil Aviation)
106 TK105 : This week we had an exhibition in Istanbul where we had to carry some 40 persons from ESB and other parts of Turkey. All ticket prices were crazy. Eve
107 OA260 : Im wondering if anyone knows if the Airport bus from Taksim is disrupted by the civil unrest in Istanbul at the moment or is it adviseable to take a t
108 TurkishWings : He should seek alternative ways or even changing his hotel to a different part of the town. Taksim is like a war zone now and pretty much no one is a
109 Post contains links 777ER : This thread is now closed as a new one has been started Turkish Aviation June 2013 (by Tupolev160 May 31 2013 in Civil Aviation) In relation to the co
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