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Reports: IAH Shootout  
User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1243 posts, RR: 19
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9547 times:

Just hearing initial reports of a shootout just outside of the Security Checkpoint at Terminal B at IAH.. Nothing being reported on the news yet. But this is coming from crewmembers at the Terminal now.

EDIT: Also possible multiple fatalities

[Edited 2013-05-02 11:55:50]

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User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1243 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9496 times:

ExpressJet will be having the FAA ATCSCC issue a company groundstop momentarily. Unsure if UA will follow.

User currently onlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9497 times:
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Reports I'm seeing on twitter that it was a single self inflicted gun shot wound while in line at security, not good. But one does have to wonder what the person was doing with a gun at security...
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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9499 times:

Coming across the Houston Chronicle's site now:

http://www.chron.com/



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20636 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9499 times:

One dead in self-inflicted wound.

HPD: One person dead of self-inflicted wound at Bush Intercontinental Airport



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20636 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9243 times:

From KHOU-TV:

Quote:
Updated today at 2:05 PM (CDT)
HOUSTON –- A man shot himself at Bush Intercontinental Airport in north Houston early Thursday afternoon, the Houston Police Department confirmed with KHOU 11 News.

The suspect walked into the security checkpoint area inside Terminal B and fired at least two shots into the air, according to an HPD.

The captain said an air marshal fired at the suspect, but missed. The man then pulled out a pistol and shot himself, according to an HPD captain.
He was taken by ambulance to an area hospital.



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8268 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9174 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 2):
Reports I'm seeing on twitter that it was a single self inflicted gun shot wound while in line at security

We've definitely all thought about doing that at one point or another...



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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8952 times:
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Quoting N766UA (Reply 7):
We've definitely all thought about doing that at one point or another...

Since a good number of flights into Mexico depart Terminal B using E145 equipment, I'm guessing there's more to the story than simple frustration with the TSA folks.


User currently offlineSP90 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8935 times:

I'm surprised this didn't happened sooner. What's next? Prescreening before you actually get into the TSA lines?

User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1243 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8937 times:

I guess that FAM was in the right spot at the right time. Even though he missed. It made the guy end it himself. Considering I'm seeing he had an AR-15 and a Pistol. Obviously if that FAM hadn't been there to draw on him, he was going to do harm to others.... Kind of like what happened around January in Oregon. A guy pulled out a gun just as he was about to head into a mall and another man with a concealed carry pulled on him and the potential offender ended it himself outside the mall right then and there.

User currently offlinedetroitflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8527 times:

CNN is now reporting that injuries were life threatening but does not say anything about a death. Shot 2 bullets and in the air, before shooting himself.


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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 5033 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8365 times:

The suspect was taken to the hospital and later died. Interesting that this happened with a big gun convention taking place in Houston this week.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/hp...978/19990090/-/cf23nx/-/index.html



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8277 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 13):
The suspect was taken to the hospital and later died. Interesting that this happened with a big gun convention taking place in Houston this week.

When is there NOT a gun convention going in Texas at any time? :P



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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 5033 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8230 times:

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 15):
When is there NOT a gun convention going in Texas at any time? :P

You do have a point there..... but it gets even better!

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...to-arm-local-residents-4298926.php



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7986 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 13):
Interesting that this happened with a big gun convention taking place in Houston this week.

You haven't driven down I-45 near IAH lately have you?

There is a big billboard when you are headed southbound - advertising "Big Gun Show" - and there is one at some location in the Houston area every weekend.


User currently offlinefalkerker From Seychelles, joined Apr 2012, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7964 times:

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 21):
It would depend on who was selling what to whom, yes?

I sincerely hope you are not living up to stereotypes and are truly joking.

Anyhow, any news on why/how this all happened


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1881 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7841 times:
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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7717 times:
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Quoting falkerker (Reply 22):
I sincerely hope you are not living up to stereotypes and are truly joking.

After the fifteen years I spent as an urban high school teacher,
I pretty much stereotype anything I feel like stereotyping.   

Otherwise, I read the El Paso Times on-line every morning.


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3863 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7704 times:

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 8):
I'm guessing there's more to the story than simple frustration with the TSA folks.

Perhaps distraught over baggage fees?



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6762 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7560 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 25):
Perhaps distraught over baggage fees?

Probably looked at his boarding pass and realized he was flying out of Gate B-84.


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7368 times:
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Quoting ScottB (Reply 26):
Quoting Confuscius (Reply 25):Perhaps distraught over baggage fees?

Probably looked at his boarding pass and realized he was flying out of Gate B-84.

Best comment of the day.

Yep -- that would sure set me off.  


User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6892 times:

Quoting PHLapproach (Reply 9):
Kind of like what happened around January in Oregon. A guy pulled out a gun just as he was about to head into a mall and another man with a concealed carry pulled on him and the potential offender ended it himself outside the mall right then and there.

No. It was back in December. He went into the mall and killed two people before himself, not outside.


User currently offlineBA0197 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2011, 313 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6525 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 19):
Probably looked at his boarding pass and realized he was flying out of Gate B-84.

This is probably one of the best posts on the site in a long while. If only the new terminal was fully opened.


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12546 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6318 times:

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Shots...continental-Airport-205835961.html says:

Quote:

He left behind a suicide note that said he had a "monster within" and wanted the cops to take care of it. The note said Moore had a bigger plan, but decided to show mercy on others.

Moore posted two cryptic messages on his Facebook wall Wednesday: "This Life Will Crash Tomorrow!" and "I recently had the chance of staring death in the face, and she was beautiful."

So, this was a premeditated but failed 'suicide by cop' scenario...



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User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 2):
Reports I'm seeing on twitter that it was a single self inflicted gun shot wound while in line at security, not good. But one does have to wonder what the person was doing with a gun at security...
Pat

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User currently offlineXEspecialist From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

Hopefully this spurs some additional thinking and discussion when it comes to airport security measures.

I've always been leery of long security lines being vulnerable. Any time you have a large concentration of people in a small area, it can be problematic. All the more reason to go for the shorter line at security, and measures to speed up, spread out security screening efforts.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 26, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 14):
there is one at some location in the Houston area every weekend.

I need to amend my post.

Yes there is a 'big gun show' somewhere in the Houston area every weekend.

However, this weekend May 3 - 5 is the National Rifle Association Annual Meeting at the George R Brown Convention Center in downtown Houston.


User currently offlinerobsaw From Canada, joined Dec 2008, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1637 times:

Quoting XEspecialist (Reply 25):
Hopefully this spurs some additional thinking and discussion when it comes to airport security measures.

Unfortunately, it will probably spur knee-jerk reactions.

But really, there is no getting around the fact that democracy/liberty and security are not fully compatible, which would you choose? That combined with the fact that there is always a bigger fool/mentally deranged/criminally inclined person that will go beyond the scope of anything less than an infinitely costly/complex/time-consuming/invasive security system means such risks can NEVER be totally avoided.


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