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50th Paris Air Show 2013 | June 17 - 23  
User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 18854 times:



That said Emeric d’Arcimoles, chairman and chief executive officer of the show, at a press briefing March 27: “This new air show in 2013 will be a very, very big air show.”

Will there be many orders again?

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User currently offlineSASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 771 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 18536 times:
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Boeing will officially start offering 777X and 787-10. Airbus will reveal its final design for the A350-1000. A380-900???  

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7560 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 18268 times:

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 1):
Boeing will officially start offering 777X and 787-10. Airbus will reveal its final design for the A350-1000. A380-900???

I doubt the A380-9 will be offered, but i'd be pleasantly surprised...
I see a number of orders for the 77W again, as well as 789 and (if offered) 7810 orders....hopefully some Japanese carriers will order some more 



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User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 18147 times:

A whole stack of Airbus orders that have been reported but not yet added to firm order list e.g. IAG A350, QR A330 maybe the AF A350. The 78J launch and a bunch of orders too

User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 17892 times:

Bloomberg, by Andrea Rothman: "Airbus engineers are working 13-hour days to get the company’s latest A350 plane off the ground in time to scoop the headlines at next month’s Paris air show."

“A first flight by Paris would bring a huge credibility boost for Airbus just as people are having doubts about Boeing’s execution,” according to Richard Aboulafia, vice president of U.S.-based Teal Group.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...to-paris-show-blow-for-boeing.html


User currently offlineviasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1880 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 17514 times:

Will be there for ch-aviation...

User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5465 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 17404 times:

More, 'the sky is falling' from Teal. By now anybody with any sense knows Airbus was pretty much ready to fly the 350 in June and if they work hard enough at it, they could fly it by Paris. While it would be a huge PR event, it won't make a teeny bit of difference to any customer who usually prefers to spend their billions based on a bit more than a flyby or two...just like customers didn't leave by the droves because of the 787 grounding.

If the CSeries doesn't fly before Paris, is that a disaster for them? Oh wait, Richard is vehemently anti CSeries anyway so that's irrelevant.

Real problems and disasters like the 320 flyby accident, the 747 cargo door, 737 rudders, A380 wing cracks and the 787 batteries, didn't spell the end of any company...the 350 making it to Paris won't be the end of the 777x either.

Is the Teal group a National Inquirer subsidiary? Every quote from this guy seems like the aeronautical version of, 'Brad Pitt might be gay'.



What the...?
User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 17120 times:

Good smile
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EnxwDKsDd1k/UZK2UwpDgHI/AAAAAAAAEGw/D8N6kMqQMvA/s1600/lebourget.jpg
from bloga350


User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16721 times:

This can be exciting.

Airbus, Boeing, will battle for PR at Paris Air Show


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10897 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16720 times:

Quoting viasa (Reply 5):
Will be there for ch-aviation...

Will be there as a Boeing guest with access to their chalet.

     



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6656 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16457 times:

Will be there as a fake professional...

  



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 723 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16434 times:

Will be there for the "Avionics and the Airbus A350" workshop on Wednesday  


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineAlpage From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2013, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16427 times:

Got my ticket already...  

User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15919 times:

Expectations are fueled and published several times, including Aviation Week.

Quote:
First Flight Nears, A350 Could Make Paris Show Flypast


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15853 times:

Quoting viasa (Reply 5):
Will be there for ch-aviation...
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
Will be there as a Boeing guest with access to their chalet.
Quoting Aesma (Reply 10):
Will be there as a fake professional...
Quoting starbucks (Reply 11):
Will be there for the "Avionics and the Airbus A350" workshop on Wednesday
Quoting Alpage (Reply 12):
Got my ticket already...

Am I the only one here who is hoping not to have to go?   


Dan  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7532 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15702 times:

What are the chances of an B v A battle with BA the winner?

I am thinking of an A380 in BA livery competing for attention with a Dreamliner in BA livery.

My thinking is that with either at least possible A would want to demonstrate it had broken into the twin-aisle fleet of an important customer while B would want to counter this by showing it was still a twin-aisle supplier to that airline. Or is this pie in the sky with both types only likely to appear in house colours?


User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2721 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 15662 times:

I just received from a business partner a corporate access badge and invitation to some of the vendor salons, with lunch and cocktails on the terrace overlooking the action. Checked with our procurement people and they indicate it is allowed corporate hospitality, so I guess I'll be going. Should be good.


When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
User currently onlinemarky From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 15541 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 15):
I am thinking of an A380 in BA livery competing for attention with a Dreamliner in BA livery.

I have read A380 will be in BA colours, but 787 will be Qatar. Can't remember where I read it so can't vouch for its accuracy!


User currently offlinePaolo92 From Italy, joined Oct 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 15359 times:

I'll be also there!
But I don't know of what am I excited more: to visit the Paris airshow for my first time or for the "trip to Paris".
I'm training for the ATPL license... and I managed to organize an "IFR training flight" from Northern Italy to Paris for a 3-day visit there  



Each evening, stars come out their daylight hiding places... But one of those, will be my wingtip, passing over...
User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5465 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 15225 times:

I think the only thing that could possibly trump an A350 flyby, would be a flyby of a formation of 787's...say Qatar, BA and LOT...nothing fancy but pretty damned cool all the same.

It won't happen but it would still steal some thunder back.



What the...?
User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 15043 times:

Oh oh
http://www.bloga350.blogspot.com/201...wb-first-flight-aircraft-msn1.html


User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 14646 times:

Analyst: Boeing could launch 787-10X at Paris Air Show, but unlikely to kick off 777X there

User currently offlineAlpage From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2013, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 14466 times:

Funny to how they are so tight·lipped about their moves until the Air Show.

User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14267 times:

Quote:
Airframer sales teams will focus on securing orders for aircraft not yet in flight at this year’s Paris air show. With less than three weeks to the start of the show, here’s how the order books look for the newest narrowbodies:
http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.as...2ae2b7-3ce0-4d88-9a6d-88cdd1686286


User currently offlineBogi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13985 times:

Thanks for the contributions.
The other topic "Possible Orders At Le Bourget" is likely to be more appropriate.


25 redzeppelin : Rookie question: is the Paris Air Show an industry-insiders-only sort of event, or is it open to the public? Is attending the show something that shou
26 PBNZ : Intending to be there Sunday 23rd if anyone else is around that day - is it wise to get a place in the grandstand / tribune?
27 motorhussy : It is both. There is an "industry only" part and then the public show.
28 Bogi : sldinfo: Two A400Ms will be seen at the upcoming Paris Air Show, with the first French Air Force one seen on the static display.
29 rwy04lga : Yes. This'll be my third visit. 1995 2009 2013
30 Post contains links and images Bogi : Jon Ostrower tweets: It's becoming increasingly clear that Airbus and Bombardier are aiming for first flights to coincide with the Paris Air Show. htt
31 starbucks : Credit: Bombardier and a picture of the AIRBUS!! A350?? :/
32 JoeCanuck : Those Canadians love taking pictures.
33 PHX787 : ......I thought someone said the C-series wouldn't be flying before PAS13?
34 Post contains images Paolo92 : That's the point! BBD said "first flight not before PAS but before the end of the month". No one said that they won't fly during
35 Post contains images Aesma : Is there a free seat on your plane ? The week is for insiders then the week-end for the public, the show and demos staying the same (except when the
36 JoeCanuck : I just noticed your post. I don't know you Paolo, but I think my jealousy may prompt me to hate you.
37 Post contains links VV701 : http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-display-at-paris-air-show-386592/ Half way there! Come on Boeing.
38 Post contains links Paolo92 : On the official airshow website: Provisional Aircraft List Interactive map of the exhibition List of Events - 2013 Paris Air Show
39 Post contains links Bogi : The is very exciting. http://gulfnews.com/business/aviatio...series-on-track-for-june-1.1192112
40 Aesma : Handed to the flight test crew without paint ? I guess they really want the publicity of first flight.
41 Post contains links Bogi : News in advance. The daily La Tribune announces second Monday that the Air France - KLM sign next week (PAS) its order for 25 A350s (plus 35 options).
42 KarelXWB : Tuesday, June 18, Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of Airplane Development for Boeing Commercial Airplanes, will provide an overview
43 Post contains links and images EK413 : I'd say the A350 will make an appearance at the 50th Paris Air Show 2013 MSN001 made the first RTO. EK8413
44 Bogi : Yes, the chances are good. Airbus has confirms that the A350 XWB first flight is planned for the 14th June.
45 tortugamon : I wonder if this will be the location for the 787-10 launch announcement. tortugamon
46 rotating14 : I'd be willing to bet yes. Singapore has already ordered and selected its engines. They'll do it.
47 Post contains links Bogi : The most exciting air show of all time? http://www.southwestbusiness...airbus-pares-to-fly-high-at-paris-airshow
48 starbucks : The 787 just arrived... BOE787 visible on FR24 at LBG
49 Post contains links Bogi : Airbus expects orders for at least about 200 aircraft? http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2013-06/14/content_16623473.htm
50 Post contains images MadameConcorde : In Qatar Airways colours! I hope Boeing will bring the same test pilot and former fighter pilot who did those crazy stunts at Farnborough last year!
51 india1 : I'd say more, simply because Enders corrected himself from "a couple of hundred" to " a few hundred".
52 stlgph : Bloomberg is reporting that Qatar Airways will order 30 or more 787's at the Paris Air Show.
53 Post contains images slimshady :
54 Post contains links rotating14 : A top of the 777's that AB has said he will buy. This will be very interesting. http://www.ameinfo.com/akbar-al-baker-ceo-qatar-aiways-340919
55 scbriml : I believe he's also been talking about additional A380s as well.
56 Post contains links tortugamon : Yes. It looks like it is the much talked about conversion of the 30 options. Not sure the model but my guess is that it will be mostly, if not all, -
57 Post contains images rotating14 : That's what vacation does to ya! But, yes they will most certainly be for the 77W's. Since, AB is known for lambasting one minute and being cozy the
58 Post contains links Stitch : In addition to ordering the 787-10X, UA is now said to be converting their A350-900 order to the A350-1000 and adding additional A350s (model unknown)
59 Post contains images tortugamon : True. I will take that tradeoff. Could be. In Novermber AAB said that he was extremely interested in being the launch customer and now all of a sudde
60 Post contains images 797 : I wonder why Boeing isn't bringing its 747-8i to the show... They haven't done any flight displays as of today and even a static display would have be
61 Post contains links and images Pihero : Are you talking about the A380 display by Peter Chandler A80 tesdt pilot display because that, I agree, is reeally impressive... as were all the disp
62 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : nahh... I've seen that too, of course... but... this is what I call really impressive: I am talking about the spectacular Qatar 787 flying display by
63 Pihero : I was there, too and from a professional point of view there is nothing apart from the brutal after takeoff turn - which all 'Buses heve been doing fo
64 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : I was by that same runway at Farnborough in 2006 the day Claude Lelaie, the man from Aix-en-Provence (I know him in person) hard-landed the A340-600
65 Pihero : ... my A318 /19/20/21/32/43... which all have demonstrated a lot better displays than the 787 will ever do. Then I'm happy, too. And no, I have never
66 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Pot. Kettle. Hamlet69
67 Post contains links KarelXWB : No, that was the one in Air India colors. The Qatar 787 will depart later today: http://t.co/0qrTPtRksB
68 PlymSpotter : Does anyone know if there will be a live feed of press releases/news conferences from the show? Dan
69 Post contains links tortugamon : Great video. I enjoyed hearing him walk through each of the maneuvers as he is making them. Very interesting. I prefer some of the other videos of th
70 Post contains images Pihero : An example, perhaps ?
71 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Sure thing: 'Ever' is a very long time. Yet after just 1 demonstration, you're hell-bent on calling this out. Personally, I really don't see the poin
72 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Looks like I may have locked another aircraft visit this coming Tuesday! This will be a biiiiiiiiiiiiig one!!!!
73 Post contains links Pihero : Sorry, Hamlet69, I did not call that one out . Someone else did, with the usual anti-A disparaging style. You are probably one of the last people I w
74 Unflug : Thanks for that link!
75 Post contains images tortugamon : It is not a Boeing (or substitute Airbus if that is your bias) aircraft so I don't care . I am not sure how much they may have cut from that video bu
76 Post contains links and images Pihero : The pro days are an opportunity to have an unrushed visit of the exhibitions : getting infos and brochures and CD / DVDs from the companies there . T
77 StressedOut : Not sure what you mean by this......as you did write:
78 francoflier : Not to weigh in in this 'what's the best flight display' thing (I counldn't care less), but technically speaking, a jetliner flying 280kts, clean, at
79 Pihero : Your technique is called *selective quoting*. The argument started with this : To which I responded with this : and... End of - pointless, I agree -
80 Post contains links holzmann : BBC is reporting that the Airbus A380 demo ac had a collision with a building and clipped its starboard sharklet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-1
81 KarelXWB : Look at the date of that video.
82 francoflier : On se calme... I have honestly no idea what you're on about or the point you're trying to make... I must have missed something?[Edited 2013-06-17 05:
83 Pihero : Nul n'est pire sourd que celui qui ne veut entendre. 'twas a response to your previous assumption, (which I quoted btw)
84 Post contains links flood : BA's A380 taxiing and about to go fly... live feed: http://event.airbus.com/airshows/bourget2013/home/
85 Post contains images MadameConcorde : End of the webcast Next webcast tomorrow I missed it! I will be at Le Bourget tomorrow so I will see the BA Big Bird doing rounds up in the air for r
86 francoflier : Still in the blur here... What was wrong about that 'assumption'?
87 Pihero : The quietest one isn't the one you thought of ; Proof : on its passes, its noise covered the announcer's comments... the bigger one, with an extra two
88 tortugamon : Thanks for the insight Pihero. tortugamon
89 francoflier : I never said I thought the 787 was quieter. I was replying Hamlet69's post who seemed to state that a fast aircraft will be louder than a slow one, w
90 rotating14 : That happened 2 years ago, 2011.
91 Post contains images neutrino : Either he was in a time warp or he just came back from Mars.
92 Post contains links tortugamon : Choppy video of today's A380 demonstration: Take off is at 4:45 ish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBpButcpbiQ&feature=youtu.be tortugamon
93 atnight : The manuvers of the BA A380 are great... Airbus sure puts a great show! Seeing that beast behaving the way it does is amazing.. No matter what is as s
94 tortugamon : The latest I have heard is July 4th. tortugamon
95 Focker : Anybody know what the "29" on the nose means?
96 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : Just seen on a spotters forum while looking for news of today's displays: Breaking news: According to a fan who followed the frequency of Bourget and
97 tortugamon : It is MSN095 - Airbus' internal ordering system. That probably gets removed before delivery. tortugamon
98 Pihero : A PAS code number
99 Post contains images Focker : 29 = 95 ?
100 Post contains links and images MadameConcorde : RT UFO over Paris? Unique Russian 4++ gen fighter to debut at Paris Air Show Russia’s Sukhoi is ready to rock the 50th Paris Air Show at Le Bourget
101 Post contains images tortugamon : woah. copied and pasted wrong. oops. tortugamon
102 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I had a fabulous day at the air show. I received royal treatment by both Airbus and Boeing. The Sukhoi 35 flying display is really hairy! These Russia
103 Post contains images KarelXWB : I assume some sort of mockup?
104 Bogi : And the show was successful?
105 Post contains images Stitch : It was for Airbus and Boeing.
106 Post contains links and images Pihero : I went to the airshow yesterday to meet with two friends. Weather was borderline awful but it didn't matter in the end as I could take a few pictures.
107 Post contains links and images Bogi : One of the most beautiful photos http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...during-its-debut-le-bourget-fly-by
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