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A380 Production Thread Part 14  
User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2847 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 82105 times:
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The previous thread had become quite long so a new part is being created so the thread loads easier for all members. The previous thread can be found here A380 Production Thread Part 13 (by SA7700 Nov 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)
Thanks!
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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 82181 times:

MSN095 CFF canceled for today due to a technical issue.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 81777 times:

MSN142 EK #46 has been spotted around Bordeaux and will be the next MSN carried on convoy 2013/15.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 81327 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 1):
MSN095 CFF canceled for today due to a technical issue.

A fuel line broke during the RTO test but the issue has been addressed. MSN095 flew yesterday (CFF), here is some nice footage:

> Picture 1
> Picture 2
> Video 1
> Video 2



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 80739 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 3):
here is some nice footage:

Thanks for posting. You really keep us very well informed here.  .


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3516 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 80026 times:

MSN123, EK #35, had its RTO today, and CFF and eventual delivery shouldn't be too far away. Yesterday MSN135, EK #40, was transfered to XFW for outfitting

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 79559 times:

The EASA finally released the AD for the permanent wing fix:

http://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/2013-0108



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 79027 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 6):
The EASA finally released the AD for the permanent wing fix:

Is there an overview available which A380's are already flying with the wing fixe installed? And which are still to be done? Just had an A380 of LH overtake me on the Autobahn A3 last weekend. That was an awesome view where the wings just looked glorious.  .


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 78724 times:

Air France 9th A380 (F-HPJI) completed cabin outfitting and painting at XFW.


(picture by XFW-Spotter)



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 78658 times:

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 7):
Is there an overview available which A380's are already flying with the wing fixe installed?

It's hard to track the wing repair, this is what I currently have:

> MSN031 CZ #1: wings currently being repaired in Beijing
> MSN041 LH #2: wings repaired, back in service
> MSN044 LH #3: wings currently being repaired at Lufthansa Technik
> MSN080 EK #17: wings currently being repaired in Beijing
> MSN090 EK #19: wings currently being repaired in Dresden
> MSN095 BA #1: wings repaired during outfitting in XFW, awaiting delivery
> MSN115 AF #9: wings repaired after assembly in TLS, in XFW awaiting delivery
> MSN121 BA #2: wings repaired during outfitting in XFW, awaiting delivery
> MSN125 TG #5: wings repaired after assembly in TLS, now in XFW for outfitting
> MSN127 EK #38: wings repaired after assembly in TLS, now in XFW for outfitting



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days ago) and read 78509 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 9):
It's hard to track the wing repair, this is what I currently have:

Great. Thanks for posting this info.  .


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 77920 times:

BA's second A380 (G-XLEB) performed a RTO today.

> Picture
> Video



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 77370 times:

Construction of Skymark Airlines' first A380 (MSN162) has started.


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User currently offlineRuscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 77136 times:

How can you have "permanent repairs" completed before the AD is issued.

I presume these must be "alternative" and "substantiated" or perhaps the airlines involved took the gamble that the repair they were doing would in fact be the final AD.

One presumes that the changes Airbus has incorporated in frames under construction, will be compliant.

I don't have a problem with this but it is a little risky. I'm sure the same applied to 787 battery mods otherwise Boeing could not have got them out the door so quickly!

Ruscoe


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 76777 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):
Construction of Skymark Airlines' first A380 (MSN162) has started.

I still can't believe those guys are doing this. At NRT they use remote gates typically, and the A380 can't fit at HND, so this will be fun to see how they employ this.



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User currently onlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5828 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 76706 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 14):
the A380 can't fit at HND, so this will be fun to see how they employ this.

What part of HND doesn't the A380 fit?

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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 76529 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 15):
What part of HND doesn't the A380 fit?

Hm Maybe I'm mistaken, but I dont think there's any A380 gates



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 76528 times:

BA's 5th A380 (MSN148) is currently on its way to TLS.

Quoting Ruscoe (Reply 13):
How can you have "permanent repairs" completed before the AD is issued.

The AD is just paperwork, everyone already knew for a long time what the permanent would be.



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 76484 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 16):
Hm Maybe I'm mistaken, but I dont think there's any A380 gates

The A380 visited HND in 2010 for compatibility checks:
http://www.jas-fbo.co.jp/english/new...-new-chitose-intl-airportrjcc.html


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8663 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 76464 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 16):
Hm Maybe I'm mistaken, but I dont think there's any A380 gates

HND has been A380 ready for nearly 3 years.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/...-gets-its-first-airbus-a380-visit/


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 76125 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 17):
BA's 5th A380 (MSN148) is currently on its way to TLS.

And it seems like LH #11 (MSN146) will be on the next convoy.



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User currently offlineAviaponcho From France, joined Aug 2011, 644 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks ago) and read 75827 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):

Great news... for this "strange" order


User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 75498 times:

Quoting Ruscoe (Reply 13):
How can you have "permanent repairs" completed before the AD is issued.

I presume these must be "alternative" and "substantiated" or perhaps the airlines involved took the gamble that the repair they were doing would in fact be the final AD.

One presumes that the changes Airbus has incorporated in frames under construction, will be compliant.

I don't have a problem with this but it is a little risky. I'm sure the same applied to 787 battery mods otherwise Boeing could not have got them out the door so quickly!

That's likely exactly what happened, both for the A380 and the 787. Once the content of the AD is known, work was started to be compliant with it so that by the time the AD is formally released, only the paperwork remains.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 75488 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 19):
HND has been A380 ready for nearly 3 years.
Quoting flood (Reply 18):
The A380 visited HND in 2010 for compatibility checks:

Ah, nice! Forgot about those.

Then again, I've been here for about 3 months now   

Either way though BC is going to be operating the 380 out of NRT, not HND.



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User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2594 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 75224 times:

Quoting Aviaponcho (Reply 21):
Great news... for this "strange" order

Indeed. This order has now proceeded (much) further than other "strange" orders like Kingfisher, Virgin, Vietnam, Air Austral, Vietnam Airlines . . .

Wonder when this is no longer considered a strange order . . . !
Also wonder if this would put pressure on ANA and/or JAL to order the beast.

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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3516 posts, RR: 3
Reply 25, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 75614 times:

MSN135, EK's 41st, has been transfered to XFW for outfitting

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 26, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 75559 times:

Quoting PW100 (Reply 24):
Indeed. This order has now proceeded (much) further than other "strange" orders like Kingfisher, Virgin, Vietnam, Air Austral, Vietnam Airlines . . .

Vietnam Airlines never firmed their MoU.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 27, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 76334 times:

Emirates #34 (MSN119 / A6-EEH) was delivered yesterday.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 28, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 75509 times:

The next A380 for Korean Air (MSN126 / HL7621) completed painting and cabin outfitting at XFW.


(picture taken and uploaded by XFW-Spotter)



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 29, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 75189 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 28):
The next A380 for Korean Air (MSN126 / HL7621) completed painting and cabin outfitting at XFW.

Still my favourite colours on an A380!  


User currently offlinedesediez From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 74917 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 20):
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 17):
BA's 5th A380 (MSN148) is currently on its way to TLS.

And it seems like LH #11 (MSN146) will be on the next convoy.

Interesting....
This page
http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Airbus/A380/index.php?p=2
shows MSN146 to become part of Qatar fleet. and MSNs 118 and 148 as #11 and #12 for LH.
The information on that page seems to be rather outdated. Is there any source with more reliable information available?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 31, posted (1 year 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 74825 times:

That page is not up-to-date.

MSN118 was LH #11 but this MSN has been canceled. Now MSN146 will become LH #11 and MSN149 will be LH #12. MSN148 is BA #5 and is already in TLS for final assembly.

Also MSN104 does not exist anymore, MSN115 is now AF #9.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 32, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 74349 times:

Today BA #2 (MSN121) was transferred to TLS.


Picture taken and uploaded by A380_TLS.



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User currently offlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 750 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 74031 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 32):
Today BA #2 (MSN121) was transferred to TLS.

Thank you KarelXWB for that picture, prettiest A380 ever.  



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 34, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 73544 times:

Here is another picture of MSN137 being on the move to another station.




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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2840 posts, RR: 25
Reply 35, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 73000 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 32):

Great picture! But why was it transferred to TLS? Final wing fix? I guess all airframes for European customers will be still delivered ex XFW?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 36, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 72692 times:

BA requested a delivery from TLS.


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User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1735 posts, RR: 8
Reply 37, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 72178 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 36):
BA requested a delivery from TLS.

For the first one only?


User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 38, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 72170 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 36):
BA requested a delivery from TLS.

BA's Airbus chief pilot needed to go on a wine shopping trip?   



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 39, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 71478 times:

The Qatar A380 will feature 517 seats:

> 8 First class located at the front of the lower deck
> 52 Business seats on the upper deck
> 457 Economy seats on the lower and upper decks

http://www.aircraftinteriorsinternational.com/news.php?NewsID=49844



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 40, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 71374 times:

Emirates number 44 (MSN140) finished final assembly. To be A6-EER.


(picture by A380_TLS)

[Edited 2013-06-15 06:54:33]


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User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 892 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 71211 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 38):
BA's Airbus chief pilot needed to go on a wine shopping trip?

More likely the Prime Minister will be on holiday in France so he can hop over to witness the hand over and serve the drinks on the flight home.


User currently offlineSemaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 833 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 70675 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 39):
The Qatar A380 will feature 517 seats:

> 8 First class located at the front of the lower deck
> 52 Business seats on the upper deck
> 457 Economy seats on the lower and upper decks

Looks a lot like the LH config.
Without wanting to go into too much detal, but is QR really hoping to counter EK with this high density seating?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 43, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 70124 times:

Emirates #35 A6-EEI (MSN123) has been delivered today.

[Edited 2013-06-17 00:56:44]


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User currently offlineJerseyFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 69979 times:

RR are now offering an upgraded Trent 900 for EIS mid next year:

"The Trent 900EP2 further optimises turbine case cooling using technology from the Trent XWB to modulate tip clearances. There is also improved LPT sealing, and an optimised intermediate-pressure compressor. With aerodynamic improvements introduced for the core air inlet, an additional fuel burn benefit of 0.5-0.8% will be delivered at entry into service in mid-2014"

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-out-legacy-trent-upgrades-386958/


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Reply 45, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 69815 times:

Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 44):
RR are now offering an upgraded Trent 900 for EIS mid next year:

"The Trent 900EP2 further optimises turbine case cooling using technology from the Trent XWB to modulate tip clearances. There is also improved LPT sealing, and an optimised intermediate-pressure compressor. With aerodynamic improvements introduced for the core air inlet, an additional fuel burn benefit of 0.5-0.8% will be delivered at entry into service in mid-2014"

Great to see XWB technologies trickle down to the other models. Already the A380's from BA onwards will have the new wing twist and higher MTOW, and every incremental improvement will make an already very efficient aircraft better. Now if only Airbus could get production rates up, I'm sure more airlines would be signing up.


User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 46, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 69645 times:
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Quoting r2rho (Reply 45):
Great to see XWB technologies trickle down to the other models. Already the A380's from BA onwards will have the new wing twist and higher MTOW, and every incremental improvement will make an already very efficient aircraft better.

Well, that was always expected of course. It shows that like every airplane, the A380 is steadily improving. And that whilst she is still in its first version. There are no A380-900's, A380-1000's, A380-800R's of A380-800F's yet in sight.

But in time, at least one or more of those version will emerge, and will make sure the A380 is going to be around us for a very long time to come.  .


User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 47, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 69121 times:

Probably not the best thread for it, but Airbus' press release about the DORIC order indicated that the A380 fleet is nearing 1,000,000 flight hours (of commercial service I presume).

Is there any celebration of sorts planned for that event?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 48, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 68864 times:

I haven't heard or seen anything about such an event.


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Reply 49, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 68736 times:

When the configuration of the BA 380s was announced the F Class cabin was described as being "Enhanced First". It was stated that the enhancements related to "additional personal and stowage space". Does anyone know what this actually means? For example I assume the word "additional" is a comparison with other BA (and not other airlines') "New First" cabins. Is this correct?

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Reply 50, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 68300 times:

Yesterday afternoon BA #1 (MSN095) was transferred to TLS after presentation at Paris Air Show. To be delivered soon .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bycac/9087021656/

[Edited 2013-06-20 03:36:13]

User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 51, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 68306 times:
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Quoting bycac (Reply 50):

Yesterday afternoon BA #1 (MSN095) was transferred to TLS after presentation at Paris Air Show. To be delivered soon .

After which we can add another new airline who is flying the A380. And there are more to come. And a wider customer base is always a good thing.  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 52, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 68249 times:

The convoy with MSN143 QR #2 is on its way to TLS.


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Reply 53, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 68064 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):

Construction of Skymark Airlines' first A380 (MSN162) has started.

What is the delivery timeline now?

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 29):
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 28):
The next A380 for Korean Air (MSN126 / HL7621) completed painting and cabin outfitting at XFW.

Still my favourite colours on an A380!  

And mine. Pepsi Light airways!  
Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 33):
Thank you KarelXWB for that picture, prettiest A380 ever.

Very pretty, but KE's livery seems to work best on the big plane.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 34):
Here is another picture of MSN137 being on the move to another station.

Not the prettiest until she gets a bit more makeup on...  
Quoting r2rho (Reply 45):
Already the A380's from BA onwards will have the new wing twist and higher MTOW, and every incremental improvement will make an already very efficient aircraft better. Now if only Airbus could get production rates up, I'm sure more airlines would be signing up.

Agreed. Its not just the rate, but the economics of assembly as Airbus will have to offer the A380s at a price that offsets the 'size risk.' Oh, the planes will go out at a profit.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 54, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 67995 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 53):
What is the delivery timeline now?

Q4 2014.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 55, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 67875 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 20):
And it seems like LH #11 (MSN146) will be on the next convoy.

MSN146 is now is now in body join, the tailfin arrived today in TLS.



Picture by http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/9100812917/



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 56, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 67376 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 55):
MSN146 is now is now in body join, the tailfin arrived today in TLS.

An impressive picture.   It shows how large the individual components of large airliners are, especially those of the A380.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 57, posted (1 year 6 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 66881 times:

MSN137 (QR #1) was seen outside today with at least 1 engine attached.



MSN148 (BA #5) finished body join and was moved to the next stage of assembly.



MSN141 (EK #45) was moved to the last stage of final assembly.



Credit for the pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts

[Edited 2013-06-24 11:15:00]


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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2840 posts, RR: 25
Reply 58, posted (1 year 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 66705 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 57):
[QR]

Very nice, even with one engine only. I think this will become a beautiful if not the most beautiful A 380 (before A 389-launch).

Thanks for keeping us up to date.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 59, posted (1 year 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 66120 times:

MSN095 had its customer acceptance flight today.





Picture by http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/9135930311/



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2840 posts, RR: 25
Reply 60, posted (1 year 6 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 66014 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 59):

For a moment I was wondering "what are all these A 330s doing in XFW?". But then it came to mind again that this A 380 will be delivered ex TLS. Is this an exception or will all BA A 380s delivered via TLS?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 61, posted (1 year 6 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 65984 times:

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 60):
Is this an exception or will all BA A 380s delivered via TLS?

It's not an exception, MSN121 BA #2 has also been transferred to TLS.



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User currently offlineA380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1118 posts, RR: 1
Reply 62, posted (1 year 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 65794 times:

Why would BA demand delivery from TLS? Why would they care either way?

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 63, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 65283 times:

British Airways has taken delivery of G-XLEA (MSN095). The jet is parked at the delivery center in TLS and the test registration has been removed.



Picture taken by http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/9157311855/



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User currently offlinesassiciai From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2013, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 65199 times:

What a great picture of the BA 380 and the AF Concorde together!

Just look at the difference in size. It really brings home the size of the 380, and the neat, almost toy-like proportions of Concorde in comparison.

The two extremes of air travel perhaps, seen from today's point of view. I find that in this photo, the two aircraft somehow complement each other, producing a rich whole! It grows on me as I write (and look)!


User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4073 posts, RR: 33
Reply 65, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 64796 times:

Quoting A380900 (Reply 62):
Why would BA demand delivery from TLS? Why would they care either way?

Probably because they are accepting A320s at the same time, and would like them delivered from the same place.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 66, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 64681 times:

Parts for MSN151 BA #6 have been spotted in Saint-Nazaire. Delivery is slated for the first half of 2014.



Thanks Olivier Cabaret for this picture.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oliviercabaret/



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2840 posts, RR: 25
Reply 67, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 64292 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 66):

What is that part covered completely in red? Obviously just the upper part of a fuselage section. Is this eventually a part for the A 350 production?


User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 64266 times:

Hang on, according to wiki only 6 A380s have been delivered Jan-May 2013. Is that right? How come it's so low, and will they increase the rate shortly?

User currently offline388crazy From Australia, joined Mar 2013, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 63966 times:

Hi,
I was just wondering if there is a list of A380s like on All Things 787?

Thanks


User currently offlineart From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 70, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 63960 times:

Quoting 388crazy (Reply 69):
Hi,
I was just wondering if there is a list of A380s like on All Things 787?

Thanks

There was for some years at http://plane.spottingworld.com/A380_production_list It stopped being updated a long time ago but the list is still there at the moment.

Quoting thegeek (Reply 68):
Hang on, according to wiki only 6 A380s have been delivered Jan-May 2013. Is that right? How come it's so low, and will they increase the rate shortly?

3 deliveries made in June.

Airbus seem to deliver a lot more in the last few months of the year. Not sure why. Airlines prefer them a few months before peak season? Airbus squeezes extra deliveries in before Dec 31st to enhance annual figures? To do that, could they be pulling labour off frames destined for delivery in Q1 of the next year and so reduce the next year first half figures?

[Edited 2013-06-29 01:57:26]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 71, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 63038 times:

The 8th A380 for Korean Air (MSN128 / HL7622) completed painting and cabin outfitting at XFW.



Picture taken by http://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter



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User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3695 posts, RR: 4
Reply 72, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 62913 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 68):
Hang on, according to wiki only 6 A380s have been delivered Jan-May 2013. Is that right? How come it's so low, and will they increase the rate shortly?

It may be conencted to the wing mods, the 1st BA A380 completed outfitting a few months back, but wing mods (either the physical work or its certification) has held the plane back. Others are probably similarly affected.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 73, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 62853 times:

MSN147 EK #47 has been confirmed as the new frame being carried on convoy #19. It should arrive in TLS on 3 June.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 74, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 62619 times:

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 67):
What is that part covered completely in red? Obviously just the upper part of a fuselage section. Is this eventually a part for the A 350 production?

The small part contains the mounting points for the assembly jigs.

Quoting thegeek (Reply 68):
Hang on, according to wiki only 6 A380s have been delivered Jan-May 2013. Is that right? How come it's so low, and will they increase the rate shortly?

Most of the A380s are usually delivered in the second half of the year. Including June we have 9 deliveries, which is about the same as last year I believe.

Quoting 388crazy (Reply 69):
I was just wondering if there is a list of A380s like on All Things 787?

There is a production list here (Toulouse) and here (Hamburg).

Quoting bongodog1964 (Reply 72):
It may be conencted to the wing mods, the 1st BA A380 completed outfitting a few months back, but wing mods (either the physical work or its certification) has held the plane back. Others are probably similarly affected.

Some deliveries will be pushed back by 6 to 8 weeks. As result of this, we will see a flood of deliveries Q1 2014. For example, EK will be taking delivery of 8 A380s between January - March 2014.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 75, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 61973 times:

MSN146 LH #11 finished body join and was moved to the next stage of assembly.



MSN143 QR #2 is now in body join.



MSN142 EK #46 was moved to the final stage of final assembly (engine attachment).



MSN144 BA #3 finished final assembly.



Full credit for this pictures http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 76, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 61507 times:

> MSN132 EK #36 (to be A6-EEK) completed cabin outfitting and painting at XFW
> MSN124 BA #3 (to be G-XLEC) completed cabin outfitting at XFW and will now go into paint



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 77, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 61649 times:

Parts for MSN145 QR #3 have been spotted in Saint-Nazaire.



Picture by Olivier Cabaret http://www.flickr.com/photos/oliviercabaret



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 78, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 60953 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 77):
Parts for MSN145 QR #3 have been spotted in Saint-Nazaire.

Fantastic work of you to keep us all up to date.   I look forward to see the A380 completed in the livery of QR. Could be one of the very best looking A380's yet.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 79, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 60832 times:

MSN145 is now confirmed on convoy 20.



Picture by Jonathan http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathanv190/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 80, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 60065 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 14):
I still can't believe those guys are doing this. At NRT they use remote gates typically, and the A380 can't fit at HND, so this will be fun to see how they employ this.

Skymark also has a A380 simulator since last year. Not all A380 operators have one.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/2mdl8c0.jpg



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User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1735 posts, RR: 8
Reply 81, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 59808 times:

N14AZ, where are you?

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 82, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 59629 times:

Today, MSN137 QR #1 finished final assembly and was moved to the flightline and MSN128 KE #8 was transferred from XFW to TLS.



Picture by David Barrie http://www.flickr.com/photos/curufinwe-xiane/9240770657/

[Edited 2013-07-08 14:33:15]


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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 83, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 59228 times:

QR is out : http://www.flickr.com/photos/bycac/9248678866/

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 84, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 59088 times:

Quoting bycac (Reply 83):
QR is out

Nice shot. Delivery is slated for Q1 2014.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 85, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 58599 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 80):
Skymark also has a A380 simulator since last year. Not all A380 operators have one.

Skymark's headquarters is in HND and a lot of their crew receive training there



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 86, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 58242 times:
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Quoting bycac (Reply 83):
QR is out :

I am still waiting to see it fully painted.   


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 87, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 57464 times:

The middle section of MSN117 AF #10 has been spotted in Saint-Nazaire.



Full credit Olivier Cabaret http://www.flickr.com/photos/oliviercabaret



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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1670 posts, RR: 7
Reply 88, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 57330 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 87):
joined exactly 1 years ago today!



Very OT, but happy A.nut anniversary Karel! You're a great contributor to the forums and I enjoy reading your posts   



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2840 posts, RR: 25
Reply 89, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 57048 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 87):

Happy a-net birthday from me as well!

The first time I see Airbus using such transparent covers. I wonder if there is any advantage?

Must be a slow-news-day if we have to discuss the latest version of a temporary cover...  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 90, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 56792 times:

Thanks guys  


Also today, MSN140 EK #44 had its first flight and will be ferried to XFW later this week. Soon, EK will be half through their order of 90 whalejets.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/9291975171/



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2495 posts, RR: 8
Reply 91, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 56334 times:

Does anyone know the MSN of the first aircraft to be delivered in 2014 with the all new wing?


oh boy!!!
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 92, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 56386 times:

Here is the premature delivery list for 2014, subject to change:

- MSN117 AF #10
- MSN130 KE #9
- MSN137 QR #1
- MSN141 EK #45
- MSN142 EK #46
- MSN143 QR #2
- MSN144 BA #4
- MSN145 QR #3
- MSN146 LH #11
- MSN147 EK #47
- MSN148 BA #5
- MSN149 LH #12
- MSN150 EK #48
- MSN151 BA #6
- MSN152 Asiana #1
- MSN153 EK #49
- MSN154 EK #50
- MSN155 Asiana #2
- MSN156 KE #10
- MSN157 EK #51
- MSN158 EK #52
- MSN159 EK #53
- MSN161 BA #7
- MSN162 Skymark #1
- MSN163 BA #8
- MSN164 EK #54
- MSN165 EK #55
- MSN166 Etihad #1

Total: 28

[Edited 2013-07-16 09:40:41]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 93, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 56347 times:

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 91):
Does anyone know the MSN of the first aircraft to be delivered in 2014 with the all new wing?

MSN137 is the first frame with the new wing design straight out of the factory and will be delivered in Q1 2014, but almost all deliveries in the second half of 2013 will be retrofitted with the new wing design.



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2495 posts, RR: 8
Reply 94, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 56199 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 93):
MSN137 is the first frame with the new wing design straight out of the factory and will be delivered in Q1 2014, but almost all deliveries in the second half of 2013 will be retrofitted with the new wing design.

Thanks, I thought it was QATAR but I wasn't sure.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 95, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 55884 times:

Here is another picture of MSN143 QR #2 in body join on July 11:



Picture taken by http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalairliners/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 96, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 55656 times:

MSN142 EK #46 ready to get its engines attached.



This picture was also taken by http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalairliners/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 97, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 55341 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):
Construction of Skymark Airlines' first A380 (MSN162) has started.

First delivery set for August 2014:

http://www.anna.aero/2013/07/17/skym...s-launches-three-routes-this-week/



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User currently offlineastuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10253 posts, RR: 97
Reply 98, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 55141 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 96):
MSN142 EK #46 ready to get its engines attached.

Scary that very soon one airline will have this many of the behemoths in service, with no sign of them choking on their appetite..... amazing.
They seem to be doing the job though  

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 99, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 54877 times:

In the next 18 months from now, EK will take delivery of 20 new whalejets. They now have 35 and that number should rise to 46 by the end of Q1 2014 and is scheduled to increase to 55 by the end of 2014.


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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 100, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 54525 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 99):
In the next 18 months from now, EK will take delivery of 20 new whalejets.

So on average a new A380 each month. And probably 1.5 B777W's per month as well.   


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 101, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 54434 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 92):
Here is the premature delivery list for 2014, subject to change:

- MSN117 AF #10
- MSN130 KE #9
- MSN137 QR #1
- MSN141 EK #45
- MSN142 EK #46
- MSN143 QR #2
- MSN144 BA #4
- MSN145 QR #3
- MSN146 LH #11
- MSN147 EK #47
- MSN148 BA #5
- MSN149 LH #12
- MSN150 EK #48
- MSN151 BA #6
- MSN152 Asiana #1
- MSN153 EK #49
- MSN154 EK #50
- MSN155 Asiana #2
- MSN156 KE #10
- MSN157 EK #51
- MSN158 EK #52
- MSN159 EK #53
- MSN161 BA #7
- MSN162 Skymark #1
- MSN163 BA #8
- MSN164 EK #54
- MSN165 EK #55
- MSN166 Etihad #1

Just a note- Skymark's code is BC 

Looking forward to seeing her in BC colors 



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 102, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 54441 times:

MSN141 EK #45 finished final assembly and was towed to the flightline.



Picture taken and uploaded by http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 103, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 54381 times:

Virgin Atlantic Pushes Back Airbus A380 as Plan Uncertain

Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd. has delayed taking delivery of six A380 superjumbos ordered from Airbus SAS (EAD) more than a decade ago as the U.K. carrier evaluates whether it still requires the world’s largest jetliner.

Virgin Atlantic, which placed a contract for the double-deckers in 2000, has “deferred them yet again,” with the first delivery now due in 2018 rather than 2017, Chief Executive Officer Craig Kreeger said in London.

“It’s hard but not impossible to see a world where we want to take the aircraft,” Kreeger said in response to questions at the Royal Aeronautical Society. “It’s not a clear choice.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...rbus-a380-monitors-boeing-787.html

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 104, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 53394 times:

1) MSN144 BA #4 initial engine run today.



MSN144 did a taxi test afterwards.



2) MSN147 EK #47 was moved to the next stage of assembly (engine attachment).



3) MSN145 QR #3 is now in body join.



4) MSN140 EK #44 was transferred to XFW for cabin outfitting today.



5) MSN142 EK #46 finished final assembly and was moved to the flightline.



Image copyright: A380_TLS_A350 http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 105, posted (1 year 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 52567 times:

MSN127 EK #37 finished cabin outfitting and painting at XFW. Delivery is set for next month, together with MSN132 (EK #36) which roll out earlier this month.



Copyright XFW-Spotter http://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter

[Edited 2013-07-30 12:20:19]


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User currently offlineLH422 From Germany, joined Sep 2010, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (1 year 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 52364 times:

I would love to see one of N14AZ's production graphs again. Please, do us the favor!

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3516 posts, RR: 3
Reply 107, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 51716 times:

MSN144, BA #4, is having its first flight today. Still unknown whether it will return back to TLS or be ferried to XFW today

User currently offlinejetsetter1969 From Australia, joined Jul 2013, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 51562 times:
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have qantas and singapore recieved their full orders or have they deferred some aircraft?

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3516 posts, RR: 3
Reply 109, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 51605 times:

Quoting jetsetter1969 (Reply 108):
have qantas and singapore recieved their full orders or have they deferred some aircraft?

Qantas have defered som aircrafts to 2016 and onwards, while Singapore have received the all aircarfts from their two first orders/batches, but they ordered another five aircrafts recently, which will be delivered from 2017


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 110, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 51591 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 107):
MSN144, BA #4, is having its first flight today. Still unknown whether it will return back to TLS or be ferried to XFW today

It's the ferry flight, MSN144 is crossing the Swiss border now.

http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB1AK




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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 111, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 51559 times:

The center fuselage section of MSN150 EK #48 has been spotted in Saint-Nazaire.



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User currently onlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5828 posts, RR: 6
Reply 112, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 50961 times:

Quoting jetsetter1969 (Reply 108):
have qantas and singapore recieved their full orders or have they deferred some aircraft?

QF have received all aircraft from their first order (12). Delivery of the second order (8) has been deferred to the 2016-2018 time frame. According to AJ it was to reduce capital expenditure requirements.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 113, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 50571 times:

Indeed, Qantas had to save money. As part of that plan, they deferred their last 8 A380s on order and refurbished some 747s to keep them a bit longer in the fleet.


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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 114, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 50523 times:

EFW has finished wing rework on its 1st of 9 EK A380's. It took 10 weeks and the a/c was returned to EK on Wednesday. The next EK A380 will arrive in DRS tomorrow.

link in German:
http://www.airliners.de/elbe-flugzeu...beenden-erste-a380-reparatur/30133


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 115, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 50531 times:

Two EK A380s have been fixed:

> MSN080 A6-EDQ
> MSN090 A6-EDT

Four more are currently undergoing wing repair:

> MSN023 A6-EDG (in PEK)
> MSN083 A6-EDR (in AUH)
> MSN086 A6-EDS (in BOD)
> MSN098 A6-EDU (in DRS)

More info here.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 116, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 50391 times:

Airbus started construction of the first structural parts for MSN166. This will be the first A380 for Etihad and is scheduled for a delivery at the end of 2014.

[Edited 2013-08-02 02:45:52]


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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 117, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 50339 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 116):
This will be the first A380 for Etihad and is scheduled for a delivery at the end of 2014.

Great. Another livery on an A380.  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 118, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 50261 times:

MSN148 BA #5 with MSN146 LH #11 in the background.



Source http://instagram.com/p/ccWYSnPl5V/



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User currently onlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5828 posts, RR: 6
Reply 119, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 50008 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 113):
Indeed, Qantas had to save money. As part of that plan, they deferred their last 8 A380s on order and refurbished some 747s to keep them a bit longer in the fleet.

Actually the plan to keep the 3 1999 B744 & the 6 B744ERs predates the decision to defer the second order of A380s. The refurbishments were also planned pre deferment too.

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Reply 120, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 49991 times:

Fantastic thread! BA's first whale, G-XLEA, went into revenue service this morning on BA 902 / BA 903 to FRA and back. So Aug 2 2013 was the date of their inaugural - one for the history books.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 121, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 49046 times:

MSN124 BA #3 finished cabin outfitting and painting at XFW.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 122, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 48751 times:

More activity at XFW today.

1) MSN126 KE #7 had its first cabin test flight. To be HL7621.



2) Also MSN132 EK #36 had its first cabin test flight today. To be A6-EEK.



3) MSN115 AF #9 did some taxi tests, cabin test flight should follow soon. To be F-HPJI.



All pictures where taken by XFW-Spotter http://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 123, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 48195 times:

MSN149 LH #12 will be transported on the next convoy, the tailfin has been spotted in Hamburg today. To be D-AIML.



Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 121):
MSN124 BA #3 finished cabin outfitting and painting at XFW.

Picture here:



Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 122):
3) MSN115 AF #9 did some taxi tests, cabin test flight should follow soon. To be F-HPJI.

MSN115 was airborne today. Delivery set for next month.

[Edited 2013-08-08 11:30:30]


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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3516 posts, RR: 3
Reply 124, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 47053 times:

MSN126, KE #7, is being ferried back to TLS, most likely for a delivery within some weeks. Unless it will first have it's wings fixed

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 125, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 46896 times:

Here's a nice picture of the flightline in Hamburg on August 15:


A380 Flightline Airbus / Hamburg by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr

From left to right:

> Beluga #4 F-GSTD
> MSN144 BA #4
> MSN115 AF #9
> MSN124 BA #3
> MSN127 EK #37
> MSN126 KE #7

[Edited 2013-08-16 07:08:43]


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Reply 126, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 46175 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 122):
To be A6-EEK.

I love that registration #. Someone needs to paint a mouse on the nose of the aircraft.  

Which is the first EK airframe with the higher MTOW/wing twist? I'd like to assume everything from MSN #95 (BA #1) onward, but I'd rather know when the wing twist became 'standard.' Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 127, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 46409 times:

All A380s convoyed after MSN095 should have the increased wing twist, unless they build multiple wing versions in Broughton (which I doubt). For Emirates this means A6-EEF (MSN113) should be their first A380 with the new wing design. However, this is not yet a 575t MTOW variant because it also needs the more powerful GP7272 engines which are not yet available.

Emirates first 575t A380 should be delivered later this year to start the DXB-LAX service. I however don't know yet which MSN this will be.

Here is a bit more info about the GP7272 engine, it dates from February 2012 but should still be accurate:

Quote:
To power the heavier variant, Engine Alliance, the joint venture between General Electric and Pratt & Whitney plans to introduce an uprated version of the GP7200 engine. The new engine, designated the GP7272 will boost the baseline GP7200 engine's thrust by 2,000 lbs to 72,000 lbs. According to Mary Ellen Jones, president of Engine Alliance the higher thrust engine should be ready for service entry by early next year. So far the GP7272 variant has not garnered any orders but total orders to date for the GP7200 series stand at 600 with Air France, Emirates and Korean Air between them having 31 Engine Alliance powered A380s in service as of January 1, 2012. A further 14 GP7200 equipped aircraft are scheduled to be delivered this year.

Rolls-Royce is quick to point out that they already have a 72,000 lbs engine in service that will support the higher weight version of the A380. The Trent 972 has been in service for the last four years with launch customer Qantas who uses the higher thrust variant to enable nonstop Melbourne-Los Angeles flights with the aircraft.


[Edited 2013-08-17 11:46:08]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 128, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 45244 times:

KE MSN126 customer acceptance flight today, will be HL7621.


Acceptance Flight msn126 F-WWSZ 21/8/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13551 posts, RR: 100
Reply 129, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 45173 times:
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Quoting astuteman (Reply 98):
Scary that very soon one airline will have this many of the behemoths in service, with no sign of them choking on their appetite..... amazing.
They seem to be doing the job though

I theorize that EK could just upgauge their massive 77W fleet from circa say ~2008 to the A380. Didn't EK have about 60 77Ws back then? That would be without any additional routes... Since EK's fleet has grown (more feed traffic), I see no reason they would 'choke' on their 90 frame A380 order.   

Who back in 2003 though EK would be this big? No I...

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 54):
Q4 2014.

A belated thank you for answering my question.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 127):

All A380s convoyed after MSN095 should have the increased wing twist,

That is good to hear.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 127):
For Emirates this means A6-EEF (MSN113) should be their first A380 with the new wing design.

Again thank you.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 127):
However, this is not yet a 575t MTOW variant because it also needs the more powerful GP7272 engines which are not yet available.

I'm surprised, per quotes of February 2012, the engine was due by now. But I'm just not hearing *anything* of the GP7272... Not a peep. While it is a minor upgrade, I was expecting EK to be wanting the thrust as well as QR. KE... Maybe... Maybe not. I see no need for AF.

I'm going to 'wait and see' on EY as I just do not think I know enough of their A380 usage to make that prediction. I think they would use the GP727 to LAX... But maybe not? I just don't know.

I've also lost track of the GP7200 turbine improvement (slight fuel burn improvement):
http://news.thomasnet.com/companysto...ks-One-Million-Flight-Hours-618872

Although when someone says an improvement will happen in 18 months, I'll wait the 18 months (January 2014). I believe the turbine blade improvement was part of the GP7272 package, but I'm not certain that is the case.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 130, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 45019 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 129):
I'm surprised, per quotes of February 2012, the engine was due by now. But I'm just not hearing *anything* of the GP7272... Not a peep. While it is a minor upgrade, I was expecting EK to be wanting the thrust as well as QR. KE... Maybe... Maybe not. I see no need for AF.

It should be on offer but we haven't heard about it because nobody needs it for the moment. EK doesn't need the 575t A380 until December this year, when they are scheduled to start the A380 LAX service.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 131, posted (1 year 4 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 44434 times:

The tailfin of MSN149 LH #12 was transported to TLS today.


A380 fin loding in Beluga by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 132, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 43795 times:

The aft fuselage section of Asiana Airlines first A380 (MSN152) finished construction in Hamburg.

http://oi43.tinypic.com/5mmvs.jpg

More picture can be found here http://slide.sky.news.sina.com.cn/slide_33_30528_25536.html



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 133, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 42830 times:

Korean Air MSN126 / HL7621 delivered.


Final Registration msn126 HL7621 27/8/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 134, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 42720 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 111):
The center fuselage section of MSN150 EK #48 has been spotted in Saint-Nazaire.

MSN150 is currently on its way to TLS on Convoy #22.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 135, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 42114 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 133):
Korean Air MSN126 / HL7621 delivered.

And here is the delivery flight:

http://fr24.com/KAL904D

http://oi44.tinypic.com/dg1c8y.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 136, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 41713 times:

The takeoff picture.


Take-off msn126 HL7621 28/8/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

There are more here http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 137, posted (1 year 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 41191 times:

Transaero Airlines selects the GP7200 engine to power its A380s. The planned passenger capacity of the aircraft will be 640-650 seats, including 12 seats in first-class and 24 in business class.

http://enginealliance.com/pr/pr_082913.html



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User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8663 posts, RR: 10
Reply 138, posted (1 year 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 41080 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 137):
Transaero Airlines selects the GP7200 engine to power its A380s. The planned passenger capacity of the aircraft will be 640-650 seats, including 12 seats in first-class and 24 in business class.

Awesome. Will this be the first airline operating a high density A380?


User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 139, posted (1 year 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 40788 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 138):

Most likely, since Air Austral is unlikely to ever take delivery of the 840 seats A380 they ordered.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 140, posted (1 year 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 40674 times:

Emirates A6-EEK (MSN132) has been delivered too.

http://www.flightradar24.com/UAE7380



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 141, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 40188 times:

The second Qatar A380 (MSN143) was moved to the next phase of assembly.


Change of station msn143 28/8/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlineZKCIF From Lithuania, joined Oct 2010, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 142, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 39794 times:

When looking through the MSN lists I only see MSN160 for Qatar in addition to the three frames under construction. Considering that most operators tried/try to get fleets of substantial size as fast as possible (e.g. British Airways, Lufthansa) why would Qatar stay with only four frames for a year or so? Or will Airbus be delivering frames SO MUCH out of order that Qatar will get frames MSN 180-something simultaneously with other operators getting MSNs 160-something?

Something does not add up to me here.


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Reply 143, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 39740 times:

I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly, but everything to MSN166 is under construction.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 144, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 39569 times:

The second BA A380 (MSN121) is being prepared for its customer flight.


Engine Run msn121 F-WWAY 30/8/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


Taxiing msn121 F-WWAY 30/8/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlineZKCIF From Lithuania, joined Oct 2010, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 39296 times:

No no, I just expressed a surprise that there are no more MSNs assigned to Qatar from 161 to 177, e.g.
http://plane.spottingworld.com/A380_production_list


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Reply 146, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 39097 times:

The current list goes into 2015, more allocations will follow later.


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 147, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 38509 times:

Hey Karel or the others, when is the first BC supposed to be rolled out, paint, tested, and delivered?

Preparing an email for a professor of mine.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 148, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 38495 times:

Construction (pre-assembly) of Skymark's first A380 (MSN162) was started in June this year and it should be delivered in August 2014. Based on this information, I expect the convoy to TLS (start of final assembly) in October or November and transfer to XFW for cabin outfitting and painting in the beginning of next year. I think it should roll-out in XFW in May or June 2014.


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User currently offlineScipio From Belgium, joined Oct 2007, 926 posts, RR: 10
Reply 149, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 38250 times:

Quoting ZKCIF (Reply 145):
No no, I just expressed a surprise that there are no more MSNs assigned to Qatar from 161 to 177,

Qatar's initial order was for just 2 A380s with 2 options. They later moved to 5 firm orders, and added another 5 later. That may explain why there is a gap between the first 4 frames and the later ones.


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Reply 150, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 38267 times:

Indeed. And while we're on the topic, Qatar's delivery schedule is as follows:

> 3 frames in 2014 (MSN137, MSN143, MSN145)
> 2 frames in 2015 (MSN160, MSNxxx)
> 2 frames in 2016
> 3 frames in 2017



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 151, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 37749 times:

Here's a nice picture showing different A380 parts in pre-assembly in Hamburg, including Etihad's first (MSN166) on the left-hand side:

http://oi43.tinypic.com/foiwbs.jpg

There are more picture here: http://slide.sky.news.sina.com.cn/slide_33_30528_25575.html



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 152, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 37827 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 148):
Construction (pre-assembly) of Skymark's first A380 (MSN162) was started in June this year and it should be delivered in August 2014. Based on this information, I expect the convoy to TLS (start of final assembly) in October or November and transfer to XFW for cabin outfitting and painting in the beginning of next year. I think it should roll-out in XFW in May or June 2014.

Ok Construction began in June, and roll out of TLS to be in January? (beginning of 2013) and paint over in May or June...so one year from construction to paint, and then a further few months to delivery.

I believe the first route announced by BC on their A380 was to NYC-JFK. They also applied for rights at LHR, and the interior I was told was to have somewhere around 350 seats.....I wonder how this will work out for them



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 153, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 37640 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 152):
I was told was to have somewhere around 350 seats

It will have 394 seats in all premium economy and business configuration.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 152):
I wonder how this will work out for them

Interesting development, that's for sure. I guess they will go after ANA's and JAL's premium customers.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 154, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 37117 times:

Time for some updates from today's activity.

1) There was an initial engine run on MSN137, Qatar's first A380. Will be ferried to XFW later this month.


First Engine Run msn137 F-WWST 2/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


Taxiing msn137 F-WWST 2/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

2) BA's second A380 (MSN121) - did a performance flight and will be delivered later this month.


Perfo Flight msn121 F-WWAY 2/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

3) EK #37 (MSN127) was transferred to TLS to prepare it's delivery later this month.


Ferry Flight msn127 F-WWAZ 2/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

4) Air France next A380 (MSN115) is being prepared for a delivery later this month.


A380 AirFrance F- by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr


A380 AirFrance F-HPJI by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 155, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 36526 times:

Quoting Scipio (Reply 149):
Qatar's initial order was for just 2 A380s with 2 options. They later moved to 5 firm orders, and added another 5 later. That may explain why there is a gap between the first 4 frames and the later ones.

Speaking about the devil, the firing order has been updated.

> MSN178: Emirates #61
> MSN179: Asiana Airlines #3
> MSN180: Etihad Airways #4
> MSN181: Qatar Airways #5
> MSN182: Emirates #62
> MSN183: Asiana Airlines #4
> MSN184: Emirates #63

Hong Kong Airlines, which previously had MSN180 assigned, has disappeared.

[Edited 2013-09-03 13:53:32]


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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4988 posts, RR: 41
Reply 156, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 36349 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 154):
Time for some updates from today's activity.

Thanks for the updates. I am very anxious to see the A380 fully painted in the colors of QR.   


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Reply 157, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 35930 times:

Convoy 2013 #23 carrying Asiana Airlines first A380 (MSN152) arrived in TLS yesterday. Ready for final assembly.

[Edited 2013-09-05 02:35:06]


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User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2594 posts, RR: 16
Reply 158, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 35400 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 157):
Convoy 2013 #23 carrying Asiana Airlines first A380 (MSN152) arrived in TLS yesterday

#23 already? So 22 in the first eight months. Are we lining up for 30 - 32 convoys this year? Meaning 31 - 33 deliveries for 2014?
That should start reducing the backlog nicely, so that prospective new customers won't have to wait 5+ years fot their first delivery. . .

PW100

Edit: assuming each convoy comprised a full airframe worth of sections!

[Edited 2013-09-05 10:29:26]


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User currently offlineZKCIF From Lithuania, joined Oct 2010, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 159, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 35253 times:

Quoting PW100 (Reply 158):
#23 already? So 22 in the first eight months. Are we lining up for 30 - 32 convoys this year? Meaning 31 - 33 deliveries for 2014?
That should start reducing the backlog nicely, so that prospective new customers won't have to wait 5+ years fot their first delivery. . .

PW100

Edit: assuming each convoy comprised a full airframe worth of sections!

No no. One frame was convoyed in three 'moves' and another was convoyed in two 'moves'. this was frame No.20 of the year.
Besides, the first convoy actually started last year. this makes 19 1/2


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 160, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 35184 times:

Indeed, convoy 4 and 5 were split because the transport ship "Ciudad de Cadiz" was stranded on a sandbank:

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2cfr1xj.jpg

Here's the year planning:

http://oi40.tinypic.com/n8l7d.jpg

There should be 3 more convoy's in December, making year's total 34 - 3 = 31.

Quoting ZKCIF (Reply 159):
Besides, the first convoy actually started last year

Yes but it arrived in TLS in the beginning of January.

Anyway, Airbus had increased production again after the wing issue was resolved, and they should deliver 30 frames again in 2014.

Quoting PW100 (Reply 158):
Edit: assuming each convoy comprised a full airframe worth of sections!

So far, every convoy in 2013 contained a full frame (6 pieces).

http://oi41.tinypic.com/24xqs5i.jpg

[Edited 2013-09-05 13:07:45]


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User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 161, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 34987 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 160):
Indeed, convoy 4 and 5 were split because the transport ship "Ciudad de Cadiz" was stranded on a sandbank:

How in earth that happened?! Didn't they have the proper information about the tides or were they on the wrong course?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 162, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 34822 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 157):

Convoy 2013 #23 carrying Asiana Airlines first A380 (MSN152) arrived in TLS yesterday.

Pictures of the night convoy, carrying MSN152:


Convoy 23 msn152 5/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


Convoy 23 msn152 5/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


Convoy 23 msn152 5/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 163, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 34833 times:

Quoting teme82 (Reply 161):
How in earth that happened?! Didn't they have the proper information about the tides or were they on the wrong course?

I don't know the whole story but there is some information in here:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...cs-after-wing-ship-beached-381842/



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Reply 164, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 34605 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 163):

I don't know the whole story but there is some information in here:

From that Flightglobal article it seems that they were taking a shortcut and it didn't payed off...



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 165, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 34316 times:

The tail fin of Asiana's first A380 (MSN152) was spotted in Hamburg today (visible behind the A320 fuselage sections).


A380 Asiana Tal Fin by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr

[Edited 2013-09-06 10:18:53]


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User currently offlineairlinebuilder From Philippines, joined Nov 2012, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 166, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 34249 times:

i hope Philippine Airlines seriously reconsiders and gets the A380.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 167, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 34189 times:

There was more activity today.

1) MSN136 EK #41 finished cabin outfitting and painting at XFW.


A380 Emirates Airlines A6-EEO by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr

2) MSN137 QR #1 first & ferry flight to XFW.


First&Ferry Flight msn137 F-WWAT 6/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

3) MSN148 BA #5 roll out.


Roll Out msn148 F-WWAS 6/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

4) MSN149 LH #12 was moved to the next stage of assembly.


Change of station msn149 6/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

5) MSN121 BA #2 did another check flight.


Check Flight msn121 6/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

6) MSN147 EK #47 was moved to the next stage of assembly.


Change of station msn147 6/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 168, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 33797 times:

There's a nice picture of the A380 TLS flightline in the database:


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User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3403 posts, RR: 9
Reply 169, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 33491 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 155):
Hong Kong Airlines, which previously had MSN180 assigned, has disappeared.

Oh dear, it may that this order is as dodgy as some have suggested  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 170, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 33487 times:

MSN117, Air France 10th A380, will be carried on Convoy #24 which starts on September 11.


Airbus A380-800 MSN 117 for Air France by Olivier CABARET, on Flickr

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User currently offlineCHIPS From Canada, joined Sep 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 171, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 32836 times:

Can't wait for GA's first A380. Its unlikely gonna happen but there is a rumor saying they're going to order 5 A380s or they might go for B747-8i. I hope they're getting A380.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13218 posts, RR: 36
Reply 172, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 31858 times:

British Airways has taken delivery of their second A380 (G-XLEB / MSN121).


Handover msn121 F-WWAY 12/9/2013 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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