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UA Transatlantic Schedule Dec. 2013  
User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8692 times:

Over the weekend we were starting to talk about a Christmas trip to France and Geermany to see family. Our plans are far from set. However, we did s find ome major glaring schedule changes on UA ex-Europe -IAD and EWR.

For instance one option is/was CDG-IAD on Dec. 29 and there is no UA flight that day. There is one Dec. 30. Are we to believe that UA is not going to be daily this coming winter on IAD-CDG-IAD? It certainly looks that way.

Another option, for us, is TXL-EWR sometime after Christmas. However, the week between Christmas and New Years there doesnt seem to be any nonstops at all. I know TXL is a difficult market for US airlines but is UA going to drop i TXL during the winter months?

Just for fun, we checked LHR-IAD and UA will only have 2 flights a day around the holidays. One is the 757 early morning flight and a 777 late in the afternoon. I am almost positive that is a major schedule change from past years.

Can anybody shed any light on this situation. Will there be more schedule adjustments that just might put some of these flights back? Thank you.

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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8300 times:

Both particular times you specify see some of the lowest demand for passengers during the X-Mas and New Year's season. Most airlines throttle back service significantly during that time of year due to the extremely low demand for flights.


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User currently offlineMIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 968 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8041 times:

Quoting IADLHR (Thread starter):
Just for fun, we checked LHR-IAD and UA will only have 2 flights a day around the holidays.

Extend the fun! Check dates beyond Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's holidays.

IAD-LHR (to use one of your example city pairs) is 3x daily on every date in January.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5730 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7568 times:

2 things.
First, UA's future schedules are dummy schedules beyond about three months out.
But second, CO has always diverted widebody equipment to other routes during the Christmas holiday season. They'll often take a 777 off of EWR-LHR, and put it on IAH-MEX instead.
I presume new UA is doing the same things.


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9508 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7380 times:

The schedule will change. It hasn't been finalized that far out.

There are often international flight reductions around the holidays. The capacity is needed for domestic travel, and premium cabin demand collapses since there is no business travel in that week, which makes the flights very hard to make money on. You'll see an increase in domestic capacity. You might not see many international planes flying on domestic routes, but the crews are needed. United always has trouble having enough crew to staff all the extra domestic flights added around the holidays.



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User currently offlineTdan From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6279 times:

You are looking at holiday cancelations. UA does it every year. Check non-thanksgiving/Christmas/new years weeks and you'll see the normal winter schedules.


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User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5823 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3):
2 things.
First, UA's future schedules are dummy schedules beyond about three months out.
But second, CO has always diverted widebody equipment to other routes during the Christmas holiday season. They'll often take a 777 off of EWR-LHR, and put it on IAH-MEX instead.
I presume new UA is doing the same things.

Correct! Last winter we had 5 day BFS/ DUB/SNN etc.. as they flew to said city. laid over 3 days then flew back. One thing they do is allow the pilots to bring their families with them. They figured it's cheaper and safer to bring their family -Positive space- as loads are low, then risk a significant level of sick calls that we get. It helped last year to cover TLV 4 prior to push!!!!


User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1023 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5221 times:

USAirways cancels all their trans Atlantic flights from PHL on the night if Thanksgiving. It is always strange to see their wide bodies at the gates in PHL early the next morning.

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