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Changing Tides - Caribbean Aviation Thread 105  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1434 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 20551 times:

Greetings once again to all A.net patrons and welcome to the 105th instalment of Caribbean Aviation.

As always, there is never a dull moment in this region''s air transportation industry. Economic instability consistently fueled by brash political expediency has been the name of the game for decades. As other regions such as Latin America, Asia and the Middle East move full speed ahead in shaping a sustainable industry for their air transportation sectors, unfortunately, the Caribbean continues to be plagued by internal legacy issues. We continue to revolve between progress and regression. It is certainly hoped that like Latin America and the Middle East which previously endured a prolonged dark political and economical misfortunes; that we can eventually produce a sustainable yet robust market-driven air transportation sector that all of us can admire.



******NEWS FEED******
Air Jamaica Shuttle suspends services citing financial issues
Tropic Air to start 3x weekly RTB in Q4 2013 with C208
Tropic launches 6x weekly BZE-CUN service Mar. 25/2013
DAE hires new Chief Commercial Officer
DAE receives 3rd MD83 through Falcon Air
AA rumored to begin MIA-GEO and MIA-PBM
AA commences weekly service to PTP and FDF with B738
TAB gets relief with expected new winter Novair A332 service from ARN and CPH
BW touted to get flag carrier status from GND
BW receives flag carrier status from GEO
KX to begin DFW service May 25
SXM continues modernization with self check-in kiosks
B6 to begin daily ORD-SJU service starting Nov. 20/2013
LI launches daily DOM-SJU service
LI now offers nonstop SXM-SJU service
LI performs proving flight into OGL with DHC8
FlyJam receives good reviews from disapora
BW slashes KIN operations by 50%..looking at cutting more staff
BW loses $US70M in 2012....close to $US150M in debt
LI cries foul at BW's fuel subsidy arrangement with GORTT
LI gears up to receive first ATR-42-600 series...still seeks financing for rest of fleet
UA to start 1x weekly B738 EWR-UVF service on July 13/2013
BW board dismissed by the GORTT Finance Minister after irregularities in corporate governance uncovered
GORTT appoints new interim board to CAL; will perform diagnostic review of operations and appoint a CEO



Enjoy the thread!


It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1395 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 20567 times:

Is BWs new board any better than the old one?

User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1434 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 20479 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 1):
Is BWs new board any better than the old one?

I'm glad you asked and I'm pleased to say yes......very much so. The events leading up to the change required nothing less than a 180 degree turn around in the GORTT's attitude towards running the company. They are currently very embarassed with the whole situation and have left Finance Minister Larry Howai a big mess to clean up. That said, Howai is probably the only credible person in the current GORTT with his private sector background and his many awards for his leadership style in the banking sector. That said, he did not seek Cabinet approval to remove the board nor did he seek the approval of the persons he selected for the interim board. This demonstrates his no nonsense attitude from hence forth because he has publicly accepted responsibility for CAL's mess as it now falls under his purview.

That said, the members of the new interim board are as follows:

Phillip Marshall (director of Strategic Management Office at Finance Ministry)
Vishnu Dhanpaul (permanent secretary at Ministry of Energy)
Indira Ramkissoon (attorney, current board member Occupational Safety and Health Authority)
Patricia Kong-Ting (finance and risk management consultant)
Dennis Lalor (Jamaican business tycoon).


Howai Takes Blame (with CNC3 video)

"Former independent senator Phillip Marshall was yesterday given the responsibility to take Caribbean Airlines into clearer skies. In making the announcement yesterday, Finance Minister Larry Howai said an interim board headed by Marshall had been given a fresh mandate to restructure the cash-strapped airline. Marshall’s unit replaced the old board led by businessman Rabindra Moonan.


Jamaican government representative Dennis Lalor was the lone survivor of the old board. Moonan, CAL vice-chairman Mohan Jaikaran, Avedanand Persad, Venosh Sagewan-Maraj and Gizelle Russell are all gone. The decision to disband the old board followed a T&T Guardian exclusive report on May 8, which revealed Jaikaran had allegedly received 19 complimentary airline tickets for Mother’s Day concerts in New York and Toronto last week."

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-...leads-new-caribbean-airlines-board


"Air Jamaica not to blame for CAL’s losses"

"The only Caribbean Airlines (CAL) director who wasn’t fired from the board yesterday says he’s very concerned about the financial health of the national carrier.
The surviving director, Jamaican businessman Denis Lalor, told the Express yesterday shortly after the CAL board was fired by Finance Minister Larry Howai that he does not believe the acquisition by CAL of Air Jamaica’s routes in 2011 was the reason the company has found itself facing multi-million-dollar losses.
Lalor was the only member of the former CAL board to be included in the new composition, which was announced by Howai yesterday after the board was fired.
Lalor said he was informed there would be changes to the board, and he was hopeful the new board would turn the company around."

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/...ame-for-CALs-losses-207961801.html

"CAL board sacked"

"SAYING he accepts blame for governance systems at national carrier, Caribbean Airlines Ltd (CAL), Finance Minister Larry Howai yesterday fired all but one member of the CAL board.

He appointed of a new interim board and said the immediate mandate of interim chairman Phillip Marshall, “will be to do a detailed diagnostic review of CAL and provide detailed recommendations on the way forward.”

The firing of the CAL board led by Rabindra Moonan came after allegations that CAL’s former vice-chairman Mohan Jaikaran may have abused his position to promote private business interests. During a news conference at the Eric Williams Financial Complex in Port-of-Spain, to announce the appointment of CAL’s new board, Howai was asked if he accepts responsibility for events at the airline since it was shifted from the Transport Ministry to his ministry last June."

http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,177820.html


The new individuals on the board possess quite impressive resumes,commanding influential roles in major multi-billion coporations like Ernst and Young, RBC and the IMF prior to their current public sector positions. As Howai stated, this is an interim board installed to do a comprehensive diagnostic of the carrier as well as appoint competent talent to key positions. Howai especially stressed the CEO position; all of us have been chanting for this to happen.

It also appears that Howai is not buying into the old board's propaganda of KIN being the root of CAL's problems. He stated that the new chairman's job will be to help stabilize the KIN operations through his many business relationships he already holds in the Jamaican business community. Dennis Lalor is also hopeful that the KIN operations can now be treated with the care it deserves through prudent management initiatives. With all of this, it is a definite indication that KIN is integral to CAL's survival and it must work to the benefit of all stakeholders involved.

The long road to recovery has begun. I will not hold my breath on anything, however, as long as CAL remains under Howai, the airline will see much better days ahead.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1434 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 20466 times:

"New chairman Marshall wants ‘clean’ CAL"

Finance Minister Larry Howai said yesterday new Caribbean Airlines (CAL) chairman Philip Marshall got the job because of his career experience, especially in Jamaica.
“He was the first chairman of the Corporate Governance Commission for the private sector in Jamaica and you know we have some challenges in Jamaica. Also, because of his background, he has experience generally dealing with turnaround situation,” Howai told the Express yesterday outside the Hyatt Regency (Trinidad), Port of Spain.
He noted that only the Trinidadian members of CAL’s board were removed, with Jamaican Denis Lalor as the only one retained, as he had been appointed by the Jamaican government."

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/busin...all-wants-clean-CAL-208237031.html



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20347 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 2):
The surviving director, Jamaican businessman Denis Lalor, told the Express yesterday shortly after the CAL board was fired by Finance Minister Larry Howai that he does not believe the acquisition by CAL of Air Jamaica’s routes in 2011 was the reason the company has found itself facing multi-million-dollar losses.

Is part of the reason for Caribbean Airlines to keep Mr. Lalor also to attempt to correct its image in Jamaica seeing how nobody wants Caribbean Airlines there (at least as per the Jamaican thread)?

A388


User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1434 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20337 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):

Well, I wouldn't say keeping Mr Lalor on board was a diplomatic move to try and salvage CAL's image in Jamaica. He really has nothing to do with the mess caused by the former board. He was certainly the most credible on the former board. Even if he was not of such good calibre, the GORTT cannot remove him as Jamaica has a 16% share in the carrier and the agreement calls for one Jamaican representative.

That said, this change is certainly in the right direction and the Finance Minister is alllowed to, CAL will rebound in due course. The frightening variable factors are the people he is surrounded by who have no integrity whatsoever.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20325 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
TAB gets relief with expected new winter Novair A332 service from ARN and CPH

Nice.
Didn't know TAB was a known destination for the Nordic leisure market.
What % of TAB tourists actually are curious about POS - Trinidad Island (when it's not Carnival) and make their way there for a quick visit?



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6186 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20320 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 2):
The new individuals on the board possess quite impressive resumes,commanding influential roles in major multi-billion coporations like Ernst and Young, RBC and the IMF prior to their current public sector positions.

What they need is an person with airline experience on the board.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Is part of the reason for Caribbean Airlines to keep Mr. Lalor also to attempt to correct its image in Jamaica seeing how nobody wants Caribbean Airlines there (at least as per the Jamaican thread)?

I think what you have in Jamaica is a very vocal meager minority who don't want CAL there.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 20280 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 5):
Well, I wouldn't say keeping Mr Lalor on board was a diplomatic move to try and salvage CAL's image in Jamaica. He really has nothing to do with the mess caused by the former board. He was certainly the most credible on the former board. Even if he was not of such good calibre, the GORTT cannot remove him as Jamaica has a 16% share in the carrier and the agreement calls for one Jamaican representative.

Thanks, I understand it now.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 7):
Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Is part of the reason for Caribbean Airlines to keep Mr. Lalor also to attempt to correct its image in Jamaica seeing how nobody wants Caribbean Airlines there (at least as per the Jamaican thread)?


I think what you have in Jamaica is a very vocal meager minority who don't want CAL there.

Caribbean Airlines has cut the operations at its KIN base by 50% with more staff cuts apparently. Is this solely caused by the competition to/from KIN?

A388


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 20275 times:

Also, the first Dutch Antilles Express Fokker 100 in the airline's new livery has arrived in Curacao. See my photo in below link:



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Photo © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography




They performed a very nice and low fly by!!!


Cheers,

A388


User currently offlineaa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 20176 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 6):
Didn't know TAB was a known destination for the Nordic leisure market.

TAB is quite popular among Norwegians actually. There are a surprising number of Norwegians who own properties (prior to restrictions on foreign ownership).

Additionally, the market is known as BWIA used to fly from POS (via BGI I believe) to ARN back in the days of the fleet of L10-11Tri-Star 500s.

Tobago may not be at the top of Scandanavians' lists, but it is certainly a known quantity.

AA1818



“The moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease for ever to be able to do it.” J.M. Barrie (Peter Pan)
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 20156 times:

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 10):
Additionally, the market is known as BWIA used to fly from POS (via BGI I believe) to ARN back in the days of the fleet of L10-11Tri-Star 500s.

That I knew, a Swedish couple friend of mine spent their honeymoon on Barbados. They flew BWIA.

Not sure if this day and age, tag-ons to CPH (for Nordic market), FRA (or alternate airport for German market) or MXP (or alternate for Italian market) from LGW would mean improved loads for BW POS-LON operations, specially if flights then would have to be routed via BGI (or UVF/GND/SXM even TAB).



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 20049 times:

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 10):
Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 6):
Didn't know TAB was a known destination for the Nordic leisure market.

TAB is quite popular among Norwegians actually. There are a surprising number of Norwegians who own properties (prior to restrictions on foreign ownership).

Additionally, the market is known as BWIA used to fly from POS (via BGI I believe) to ARN back in the days of the fleet of L10-11Tri-Star 500s.

Tobago may not be at the top of Scandanavians' lists, but it is certainly a known quantity.

AA1818

Heeey AA1818, it has been a very long time since I last saw you here, where have you been all that time my friend? Good to see you here again.

A388


User currently offlinewingedtaurus From Mexico, joined Mar 2007, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 20001 times:

Does anybody know if Interjet (4O) is starting MEX-SJU in June? That would be a great Caribbean addition. I always thought SDQ should also be linked to MEX

User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1395 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 19973 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 2):

Little bit confused by something. If all BW had to do with the AJ brand was to continue what was already in place then why was JM closed down due to its massive losses. Clearly JMs routes were unprofitable, and by the time of its closure it had pretty much been cut to its present core routes, plus PHL and BWI.

There is an inherent contradition between the LOK Jack team's strategy of winnowing down two brands to one brand, ad Lalor's accusation that an attempt was made to put too much of a Trini stamp.

Confused! I think that every one is running for cover and passing blame. The fact remains that if KIN lost US$ 38MM. Even though it is not fully to blame for the current financial mess (cargo and credit card fraud is quite disturbing) it definitely played a role.

Jamaicans want what is essentially a Jamaican airline. Given the tremendous animosity that has developed towards BWs Trinidadian ownership I will be curious to see how this will be acheived, short of Fly Jamaica meeting an early death (which is not unlikely given the tragic history of privately owned airlines in the Caribbean).

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):

If BW wants to prove to Jamaicans that it is a REGIONAL carrier and not just a TRini9 carrier they will need to rehire some of the Jamaicans who they dismissed, ensure that the contracts held by their Jcan employees mirror those of their Trini employeers.

I live in NYC with its large Jcan community. I can tell you this. NOT ONE JAMAICAN has anything nice to say about BW. And a frequent complaint is how Jamaican employees seem to bear the brunt of lay offs when they occur. And these comments come not only from those who disliked BW from the beginning. But also from those who understood that JM had to go and that BW (KIN) was the best that was available, and were willing to give them a chance.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 7):

If it was only a vocal minority BW would have the same market share that JM had. It is now falling behind AA, even on the KIN market. Jamaicans are fleeing BW and that is a fact. The question will be what will it take to bring them back, aside from FlyJam collapsing, which would put aside notions that Jca can support its own airline. Whle all of this is happening B6 and WS have become firmly established in the VFR market.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 11):

Those continental European routes were huge money losers for BWIA, which is why there were dropped.

It is a fact of life that CAL has no idea how to market to leisure travelers in a manner which will give them decent yield. I am not even sure whether they should try this when we see what happened to JM, which was very successful in the lesiure market, but at the cost of running up huge losses.


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 19940 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 14):
It is a fact of life that CAL has no idea how to market to leisure travelers in a manner which will give them decent yield. I am not even sure whether they should try this when we see what happened to JM, which was very successful in the lesiure market, but at the cost of running up huge losses.

The answer might be a high-density configuration wide-body aircraft flying (charter) only on contract routes by wholesalers.
And IMHO, it's not something BW should try right now.



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 19743 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 9):

Dae and Insel are reaaalllly expanding, that's impressive!


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 19665 times:

Here's the First Liat ATR 72-600!!!!


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Photo © Dn280



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 19658 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 17):
Here's the First Liat ATR 72-600!!!!

Great!!! I do find the fuselage to be too white!!! They could have put LIAT billboard titles on the fuselage. The tail logo has changed but just slightly.


Hope to see it in CUR soon!!! Let me know when the first flight to CUR will be.

A388


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6186 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 19610 times:

Quoting wingedtaurus (Reply 13):
Does anybody know if Interjet (4O) is starting MEX-SJU in June? That would be a great Caribbean addition. I always thought SDQ should also be linked to MEX

ASUR airports says they are.

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 16):
Dae and Insel are reaaalllly expanding, that's impressive!

I know. I wonder where all these pax are coming from to fill these planes. ITs not like DAE and Insel are household names in the tourism markets



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User currently offlineaa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 19580 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 17):
Here's the First Liat ATR 72-600!!!!

Looks great!

Quoting A388 (Reply 18):
The tail logo has changed but just slightly.

...bringing it more in line with Caribbean Airlines font!      

AA1818



“The moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease for ever to be able to do it.” J.M. Barrie (Peter Pan)
User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1395 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 19541 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 19):

And indeed DAE has gotten quite a reputation on skytrax being unreliable. Precisely because they are not known will be why tourists will seek these sources for info.

It appears as if DAE has a personal vendetta to drive Insel out of business.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6186 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19429 times:

As of Dec 21. and now bookable....

LAXBZE 0020 0700 // BZELAX 1030 1350 (737-800)

Delta expanding in Belize.

Anybody else in the Caribbean got non-stops from LAX?



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19389 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 22):
Anybody else in the Caribbean got non-stops from LAX?

Does DL has LAX-MBJ on its radar?
Due to distance and flight duration, probably for LAX-PUJ/SXM/AUA/CUR leisure traffic DL non-stop flights may not be sustainable..



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6186 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19380 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 23):
Does DL has LAX-MBJ on its radar?
Due to distance and flight duration, probably for LAX-PUJ/SXM/AUA/CUR leisure traffic DL non-stop flights may not be sustainable..

I guess for the most part it most have some year round aspect to the flight and have some VFR components. Full leisure markets don't work so well.



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
25 A388 : The question is how long LAX-BZE will last. A388
26 yellowtail : The homework has been done and for the last two years every detail has been looked at.....and ground teams are working both ends this time. I will be
27 BW424 : Congrats to LI! Looking forward to seeing the 42 version in the livery. Any idea what the initial routes will be for this first a/c? Probably high de
28 andrefranca : I remember AA had LAX-SJU right?
29 yellowtail : Yes, think is was cancelled during the first wave of AA SJU cancellations. Yes, and at US$1500 for a R/T 4.5 hour flight....the yields should be righ
30 Post contains images andrefranca : Right, here a few pics of my last flight, I'm right now in SJU, quite impressed with the country, I know, I know they are USA, but expected more pover
31 A388 : A lot of routes had there homework done in detail and eventually dropped so I'll wait for a year or two before saying the route will do fine. BZE can
32 LimaFoxTango : No word yet, but I don't expect it to be placed on those routes yet until more aircraft arrives. First aircraft should be in ANU around May 31. Also,
33 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Seriously?!?! That means i'll probaly get to see it on my way back to MNI Which is this Saturday btw. Will be something slightly different to what I
34 yellowtail : it has been for some time. the natural market to bze is west Coast. CA is the number one in arrivals to BZE. . THey already are. Last year SoCal alre
35 A388 : All great news, good luck to both BZE and DL. Regarding the LI ATR72, I hope to see them in CUR too, but I think an ATR42 will be better suited. I th
36 guyanam : Definitely not POS GND as they cut that route down to once pay day. Suspect some route through DOM as they seem much favored since they invested, or
37 LimaFoxTango : I wouldn't get too excited yet as those dates are always subject to change. The 42's seem to be on hold at the moment, so it'll be all 72's for the t
38 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : I know, but im still hopeful. Because that would mean spotting two new planes in two days
39 Post contains links 2travel2know2 : Cayman Airways returns to PTY In Spanish from www.prensa.com Cayman Airways will fly again to PTY and got a permanent operation permit from Panama Civ
40 yellowtail : i second that motion.
41 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : My latest trip report is finally up, no LI ATR though...: Same Route Different Airlines: VS, 5M And A BY 787 (by 817Dreamliiner Jun 6 2013 in Trip Rep
42 LimaFoxTango : The 72's will be in CUR sooner than you think. Nice TR. You'll definitely see them on your way back up. In other LI news, flights at Ogle starts June
43 guyanam : Guyanese will definitely appreciate the OGL LI flight. Indeed they might need to add service as many use them to connect to majors in BGI, instead of
44 817Dreamliiner : Thanks! Looking forward to seeing them.
45 A388 : That will be great. Let me know when the first LIAT ATR flight will be to CUR. A388
46 Post contains images andrefranca : Hey guys, I've being far from this forum due to my backpacking tour for the past 5 months to celebrate the end of my management studies! it was a wond
47 yellowtail : The guy behind the Surinam Airways counter looks like he is about to rip off your head
48 andrefranca : hahahahahah on certain airports they do not want us to take pics! but so far was only frowned upon in Mexico!
49 CO777DAL : FYI: This December for the first time ever, UA is offering two flights a day from IAH to POS on certian days UA1247 11:55PM IAH 7:25AM POS UA 1457 1:1
50 LimaFoxTango : Always wondered why BW never tried tapping into that market.[Edited 2013-06-10 16:14:35]
51 yellowtail : UA has finally found and eastern Caribbean market that works from IAH. But this route is OIL OIL OIL. My brother has to do it routinely from IAH and
52 Post contains images westindian425 : UA has the benefit of the frequent business travelers from the oil industry. Come Christmas time, they also benefit from the nationals (many who work
53 Post contains images BW424 : Well, reality is, you cannot just join an alliance whenever you feel it fit. The alliance has to invite the airline to join. These alliances look at
54 2travel2know2 : True, but BW could have well started giving UA Mileage Plus members miles when flying, be actual miles or certain miles depending on routes flown. Fo
55 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Here are some photos I found of Liat's first ATR. Still in TLS as of 6th June: 6 juin 2013 - LIAT ATR 72-600 F-WWEN 1077 - LFBO - TLS by gimbellet, on
56 A388 : I still maintain that the livery is too white. LI should put large LIAT billboard titles on the fuselage with larger "The Caribbean Airline" titles b
57 guyanam : BWIA wanted to around 2001. But T&T lost their Cat one rating. With UA on the route I do not see how BW could make it. Some one mentioned that th
58 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Liat's First ATR 72 has finally been delivered: http://www.atraircraft.com/newsroom/...ress-releases-details-1217-en.html
59 A388 : And that would confuse passengers with Caribbean Airlines itself and might even result in a lawsuit and the airline's name which still is LIAT is not
60 guyanam : LI already bills itself as "The Caribbean Airline", and I think that this was even before Caribbean Airlines was established. Nothing wong with boldi
61 A388 : Okay, let me clarify my point. Putting "The Caribbean Airline" in bold but with the same font size is okay. But, putting that in bold and in large fo
62 andrefranca : I remember that! and for me it's a wonderful touch o professionalism! once they use ''THE Caribbean Airlines'' thing!
63 N312RM : According to their schedule, flights operate on Monday and Thursday effective June 27. They are still promoting it as a seasonal service to the Cayma
64 skystar767 : I don't understand why CAL did not pickup one of UA 767-200ER and use that for the GEO-JFK-GEO and the GEO -YYZ -GEO flights. The 767-300 is way too m
65 817Dreamliiner : V2-LIA was spotted in ACE today. Does anyone know it delivery route?
66 yellowtail : Because it has horrible economics ...might as well abuse the 763
67 LimaFoxTango : TLS-ACE-SID-REC-GEO-ANU arriving Sunday afternoon. Also, V2-LIC has already been spotted in full livery. LIB I believe is a -42, that's to be confirm
68 817Dreamliiner : Thanks a lot!
69 Post contains links and images usxguy : I made a post in the Gen forum since it was SkyBahamas first "crash" that will result in a hull loss, but they had a Saab try to land in a thunderstor
70 trintocan : GEO - JFK is not abusing the 767-300ER, it's quite an appropriate use for the model. If you think about BA flying 7 767-300ERs on intra-European sect
71 guyanam : That 767 is almost 100% booked in late May early June. Those 221 seats sell out. You may not know this but Guyanese are the 5th largest immigrant gro
72 yellowtail : I didn't say GEO-JFK was abusing the 763. I said it is better they just use the 763 during lighter periods than get a single 762 just for those days.
73 Post contains images LimaFoxTango : V2-LIA arrived ANU approximately 4:15p LT. The aircraft performed two flybys followed by the usual water salute after touchdown.
74 817Dreamliiner : That's Great! Was expecting something like this when I saw the Thomson 787 delivery before I left MAN. Sadly nothing like that happened. Too bad I mi
75 BW424 : Awesome! Congrats on your 9th year of being on the a.net forums as well. I looked at a video of the landing. Looked like the PF flared a tad early, b
76 Post contains images andrefranca : congrats to LI! come to south americaaaa
77 2travel2know2 : It already does, GEO/OGL and PBM (?)
78 A388 : LimaFoxTango and BW424, do you know when LIAT will send the first ATR flight to CUR? Can you keep me informed about the first flight? Cheers, A388
79 andrefranca : well....... hehehe they're physically in south america, but still way too West indies! LOL I meant CTG CCS BVB MAO BEL MCP these routes....
80 2travel2know2 : I only see chance for GND-CCS or something like GEO/OGL-BVB or GEO-MAO.
81 Post contains images yellowtail : Here is the midday "bank" at BZE last Saturday.....pretty typical lineup. Couldn't get AV 319 in the shot...
82 Post contains links and images A388 : Nice line-up. Since when does AV fly to BZE? Or do you mean TA? I know the two airlines will be merged and operate under one brand but that is still
83 Post contains links and images andrefranca : I believe it is... if you check on wikipedia and other sources the "everything" TACA about it are gone, even flights inside Guatemala are already pro
84 yellowtail : Have been flying to BZE (as TA) since 1930s. TA was absorbed by AV and now everything here is all AV. 3-4pm sees a "bank" of UA, 2XAA, AV (depending
85 2travel2know2 : JJ lost is CM @ MAO gain. I was in NAS and the amount of work The Bahamas is putting into that airport is amazing. When non-U.S. flights check-in mov
86 yellowtail : I would agree with that 100%. It is a really nice facility. The Bahamian people should be proud of it.
87 A388 : Let me explain my view, as long as there are still aircraft flying in TA colors, I don't see a former TA flight as an AV flight now. After all, I am
88 andrefranca : Yes, but we shouldn't have trouble to understand why, CM sends its E190 which carries 94 pax, they connect people here to the americas, you ge the CM
89 skystar767 : Anyone knows when Flyjamaica will start the JFK-GEO flights?
90 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Caught this today, SVG Air has a new livery. Looks nice In my opinion. And its already up on the 'other site' (A388 will know what site SVG Air New li
91 Post contains images A388 : Again a nice shot and very nice and colorful new livery 817Dreamliiner. Thanks for sharing it with us my friend. A388
92 817Dreamliiner : No problem, I just wished they screened my photos as fast as they did with that one.
93 8b775zq : Any timetable as to when LI will start flying the ATR on revenue flights?
94 Post contains images yellowtail : My first 788 flight today. UA33 IAH ORD view from seat 16L
95 carl50mq : Interesting to read about the Caribbean aviation...
96 817Dreamliiner : Nice photo! Still waiting for my first 787 flight...
97 Post contains images yellowtail : Ask and you shall receive. Taken on the ground in BZE yesterday.
98 A388 : You guys are lucky to have the first AV colored TA aircraft in BZE. I'm still waiting on this new livery in CUR. A388
99 andrefranca : I'm jealous! LMFAO!
100 Post contains images yellowtail : IMHO AV are desperate trying to discourage CM from starting BZE....so they better send their best eqp. A388..anytime you wanna come spotting in BZE j
101 2travel2know2 : I could bet it's not because someone making those decisions in BOG but someone still calling the shoots from SAL. Yellowtail, if UA keeps an aircraft
102 Post contains images yellowtail : You got that hamster running in your head.....but it needs a rest. CM and AV would have a cow if UA did that.
103 2travel2know2 : Why go for Milk if one can have a cow.
104 A388 : Thanks yellowtail. A388
105 andrefranca : I can see that coming, the problem is: When! same goes for BGI Right now there's a little bit of a problem, USD is geting strong again, it means for
106 LimaFoxTango : First pax flight of LI's ATR scheduled for July 1st operating 361/364. Should be July 10, but subject to change.
107 Post contains links BWIA 772 : So BW CEO has resigned and the new board is reported to have made overtures to old BWIA execs for help. http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Corbie--qu
108 guyanam : I have a question. The Caribbean has had BWIA/CAL for 73 years, and LIAT for 57 years, and Air Jamaica/CAL for 44 years. Why is it that we have such
109 Post contains links andrefranca : Being discussed on another tread LIAT CEO gets "hilarious complaint letter". http://gma.yahoo.com/hilarious-airli...eo-142429419--abc-news-travel.html
110 beeweel15 : I think for some one to really come in a do something right the government has to step totally out of the picture.
111 GUYAIR707 : I was at a Guyana Tourism exibition in New York and FlyJamaica had a booth, and was told that they were starting at the end of July 2013. The rep als
112 GUYAIR707 : Because most appointees are Government friends, not based on credentials. GUYAIR707
113 guyanam : Aleong had a senior position with Air Canada before moving to run BWIA. Why did he succeed at AC and fail at BW? And what of the many middiel manager
114 BW424 : Well, not to be fussy,but he was the Ag CEO.......For 2.5yrs, BW hasn't really had a real CEO as both Nicholas and Moonan along with former Vice-chai
115 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : I stand corrected, Kaieteur News has reported FlyJamaica will start GEO-JFK in October 2013. http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/20...a-for-new-york-ro
116 8b775zq : Do you have a problem with SKB ? When did we ever demand service? With the exception of SXM there is currently no route in LI that we really have tha
117 LimaFoxTango : What a bunch of crock. Anyway, GND is only a minority (non contributing) shareholder with less than a 1% stake.
118 andrefranca : Here we go again!
119 GUYAIR707 : Actually I was correct, Fly Jamaica is slated to begin service end of July. The airline in Kaieteur News was Fly Guyana. I did not pay enough attenti
120 BWIA 772 : Why are they moving away from the humming bird in its current form? At this rate they might as well slap a steel pan / steel drum on the tail and cal
121 guyanam : SKB does not want LIAT service? If SKB/NEV folks living in the USVI and BVI cant get home, because LI has dropped SKB, I can imagine the outcry.. Do
122 BW424 : Tell me about it....it just shows lack of emphasis on the importance of proper branding. This sort of thing would never occur back in 2009/10. As I m
123 8b775zq : You are missing the point here. SKB is NOT demanding any extra service from LI as the current service levels are acceptable as is at the moment. LI g
124 817Dreamliiner : LI's second ATR, V2-LIC was delivered yesterday. LFT, do you know when it will arrive in ANU? I assume its taking the same route as the first ie TLS-A
125 guyanam : I am not missing any point. LI carries 38k passengers into SKB annually. Divide that by 6 flights per day 365 days of the year and ask yourself what
126 LimaFoxTango : LIC is currently enroute to ANU and shoud be there today 8 Jul. FR24.com shows LIC routing FOR direct ANU!!! LIB is actually a 72 I'm told.
127 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : I was just about to post this! Was a bit surprised when I saw it on FR24. Interesting, I wonder why they registered LIC before LIB then
128 Post contains images A388 : LimaFoxTango, is the LIAT flight to CUR this coming July 10th still operated by their ATR72? Please keep me informed about their first ATR flight eith
129 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : I just tracked V2-LIA on FR24.com, It just did LI361, BGI-DOM, seems to have landed now though. V2-LIC is flying over Guadeloupe. You can track here:
130 A388 : Thanks 817Dreamliiner. LIA and LIC are the only ATR's LIAT has so far? Cheers, A388
131 817Dreamliiner : No problem! At the moment, yes. Though According to LFT, V2-LIB is a 72, when initially was thought to be a 42 (which in my opinion would have made m
132 8b775zq : Many SKN national hav left STT or are planning to. The effects of the economic downturn severely impacted th USVI couple that with the fact that many
133 Post contains images A388 : Great thanks again my friend A388
134 Post contains links viasa : I think we haven't talk about that Winair will add two ATR72-200s: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...d-regional-network-from-st-maarten
135 817Dreamliiner : Wow, well I can safely say that I didn't see that coming... Either way, looks like we'll have another ATR operator in the Caribbean. I think the ATR
136 andrefranca : Wooow me neither! I dreamed they'd start MNI from SXM..... AXA seriously? to compete with the 20 dollars/20 minutes minutes ferry crossing?
137 guyanam : You make an excellent case why STT and especially STX might be dropped if no revenue guarantees are provided. So its not too far fetched for LI to ma
138 yellowtail : Thats a big step up from Otters and requires a whole 'nuther level of operational style. I hope they are ready for it. The last airline in our region
139 817Dreamliiner : We did have service to SXM at one point, I believe it was shortly after they started ops in MNI after the new airport was official opened. I remember
140 A388 : 817Dreamliiner, how are you doing? I can't seem to trace the latest routing of V2-LIC. Can you trace both LIA and LIC for me and keep me informed of
141 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Im doing fine . V2-LIA is currently doing LI364 BGI-DOM at moment: http://fr24.com/LIA364 I think this flight continues to ANU so it might show up wi
142 Post contains images andrefranca : MNI is really undeserved! needing to transit through ANU is a pain for someone who knows how immigration lines, and other facilities there can be app
143 817Dreamliiner : Well, underserved wouldnt be the word I would use. MNI is too focused on ANU, though, there is good reason for it. ANU is the nearest intl airport (w
144 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : A388, I just checked FR24, V2-LIA is up and flying DOM-BGI http://fr24.com/LIA364 So far This the only route it seems to be doing for the time being,
145 JM02 : V2-LIC only arrived on Mon 8 Jul, whilst LIA arrived on the 17 Jun; that may explain why LIC is not yet in service. It does seem strange that LIC cam
146 guyanam : The response trie dto make light of Branson. However Branson is too much credibilityvs LIAT which has none. A quick review of skytax will show why. U
147 817Dreamliiner : Funnily enough, V2-LIC showed up on FR24 not too long ago, but disappeared shortly after. No doubt it will go into service in a couple days or so.
148 andrefranca : SXM makes even more sense if it was served cause they have KL, AF, caribbean, north and latin american carriers serving, ANU only got the english air
149 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Actually, the market to France, Netherlands and Latin America is not that strong from Montserrat (actually its pretty much non existent) than it is t
150 8b775zq : NEV for the most part seems content with the service offered by Cape Air, SVG Air and FlyMontserrat. The LI daily STT flight and return seems just sa
151 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Honestly, I actually have no knowledge of this flight to Nevis currently operating, pretty much goes to show what a crap airline they are... With reg
152 Post contains images andrefranca : I have a funny "tale" to tell about Winair, I first flew them in february 2011, from SXM to EUX return, early flight, nothing special, I was expectin
153 Post contains images A388 : L M A O, there is only one Latin American airline serving SXM A388
154 andrefranca : Dutch Antilles Express, Jetblue and Insel air (may not be considered "latin american carriers") but they bring pax's from Domenican Republic, Colombi
155 guyanam : Well 817 doesnt seem to impressed with FlyMontserrats service to NEV. Are you sure that they still go there? Ditto for SVG AIr. Suspect not as if the
156 guyanam : Yes I can see your point about the ABC islands. I see them as being more "Latin" then SXM and the rest of the non Hispanic caribbean, not the least b
157 A388 : L M A O A, in what world do you live in saying that DAE and Insel Air are Latin American airlines? They carry latin american passengers and that mean
158 guyanam : Well to be technical the plural referred to all carriers, not just the latin ones, and DAE and Insel are Caribben carriers. His clarification referre
159 817Dreamliiner : Ok you have your story. I'll can tell you, Winair operated into MNI reliably and safely when they flew here. The only problems we've suffered only ha
160 A388 : Guyanam, I think you can join andrefranca. Go do a search on the ABC islands before saying what you're saying. I heard Guyana might become part of Chi
161 andrefranca : Dale, me and guyanam know it's not worth it! you always like to jeopardize what people say in this forum! you understood my statement! . (PERIOD)
162 andrefranca : I still want to fly them, I'm the kind of person who thinks: "when it's your time to go, it's your time to go", and the kind of accident with the Fly
163 8b775zq : To be honest I am not sure LI still flies to NEV. LI has always been stronger in the southern Caribbean than in the north. I think the windwards are
164 GUYAIR707 : I have been trying not to say anything, but I find it weird that Guyanam has his residence as the US and andrefranca is from Brazil, so what relevanc
165 A388 : My apologies to you Guyair707. I just said that towards the stupid remarks made by two members that just don't make any sense at all and one of these
166 GUYAIR707 : Fair enough, let's move on. GUYAIR707
167 A388 : what's the status of LIAT's ATR operation? What are the upcoming routes to be operated? When will they receive their first ATR42-600 and what routes w
168 817Dreamliiner : From what ive observed only V2-LIA is in service at the moment and it mostly does ANU-DOM-BGI-GND roundtrip. V2-LIC is probably still on the ground i
169 817Dreamliiner : Just spotted V2-LIC on FR24 doing LI361, looks to be heading towards St Vincent from BGI
170 A388 : Great thanks 817Dreamliiner. Does anyone here also know the status of Caribbean Airlines and their Jamaica operation? Are there still aircraft wearing
171 guyanam : Put it this the language spoken in the ABC islands can easily be understood by a Venezuelan, indeed more easily than by some one from the Netherlands
172 A388 : This is just your opinion, nothing more and nothing less. Dutch is still widely spoken and education is still largely Dutch. The Netherlands. A388[Ed
173 GUYAIR707 : I am on BW424 on Tuesday night, so if I see any with Air Jamaica titles I will let you know. Up to June 12, 2013 there were a/c wearing Air Jamaica t
174 Post contains images kasimir : Our native language would be much better understood by a Brazilian since our creol language has more Portuguese influence than Spanish. But most peop
175 A388 : Awesome thanks. I hope these Air Jamaica liveries will be here for the coming years should I get a chance to go to SXM. A388
176 A388 : Hello kasimir, long time no see. To answer your question, I think you have to contact the airport operator but to my knowledge it is going well (I ha
177 andrefranca : LIAT responds to "Open letter" on their facebook page.
178 BW424 : The KIN operation is being analysed in good faith and they know now, after all the confusion, that they have to make it work. As for aircraft in the
179 Post contains links BW424 : "Cessna Aircraft crashes in Matthew’s Ridge" "Georgetown: An Air Services Limited (ASL) Cessna plane crashed at Matthew’s Ridge in Region One Mond
180 andrefranca : terrible, I'm glad they're alive.
181 Post contains images kasimir : I already understood what your asking, but like A388 said this is a very subjective question, since Curacao has a heavily diversified and multicultur
182 dominicl316 : Actually, the OECS countries are of great interest to the USVI government, as most of the USVI voting constituency are either OECS nationals or first
183 guyanam : Yes I am fully aware that the status of "down islanders" has changed much from the 60s when they were a highly despised immigrant group. Now they hav
184 yellowtail : Is that one of La Costeñas or one of 9Ns old aircraft?
185 GUYAIR707 : Ok I guess you got your answer. I travelled on 9Y-JMD in full Air J colors. I saw two other Air J liveries in POS, but didn't get the Registration Nu
186 BW424 : No clue unfortunately. All I know is that the a/c involved is 8R-AMS. Is the transit experience in POS still loathsome?
187 GUYAIR707 : Never was really loathsome for me, I enjoyed when we could go into the terminal and browse the duty free. Apparently on the return we all have to dep
188 guyanam : Now imagine if you are traveling with 2 kids, so must carry your carry ons and deal with them. Not good. Any way if the US are to blame for this then
189 GUYAIR707 : I never attempt to speak on behalf of anyone I see what pax go through. My travel agent told me that the US requires the US bound pax to deplane in T
190 guyanam : Was your return flight more pleasant than your outbound? I know that passengers traveling from SKB/ANU into STX/STT must deplane in SXM to undergo do
191 LimaFoxTango : Passengers no longer need to disembark for security checks prior to entering a US airport on LI (at the LDP "Last Departure Point").
192 GUYAIR707 : I was just on the way to Guyana, will be flying out on 524 on Saturday. I noticed in the daily newspapers that FlyJam is advertising for Flight Atten
193 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : A nice photo of V2-LIC doing a low pass at ANU: View Large View MediumPhoto © Gianni Deligny
194 Post contains images A388 : One of many very nice photos taken by my friend and pilot Gianni. Hope to see you fly this aircraft to CUR soon!!! It has been some time now but here
195 817Dreamliiner : Indeed! Nice photos A388. I wish I could get more photos here, but it doesn't help when you get crappy screening results. And its even more disappoin
196 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : Also in the news, LI makes first OGL flight as reported in Kaieteur News. http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/20...ght-at-ogle-international-airport/ G
197 andrefranca : Recently I have seeing lots of recent bad comments about LI on skytrax, didn't really knew what was going on, yesterday they posted on their facebook
198 8b775zq : LI's ATR was here in SKB on Wednesday. I saw it departing at 5:45pm. I must say it looks much better in reality.
199 GUYAIR707 : I saw JMF today at JFK, and flew JMA (BW524) with the CAL titles with Air Jamaica colours. Any idea if they will be changing all to CAL livery? I ass
200 skystar767 : I don't understand why Caribbean airlines is making guyanese passengers go through security check in POS when they already did in GEO? Can someone exp
201 LimaFoxTango : Blame the TSA for subjecting foreign air carriers (and their passengers) to ridiculous security checks prior to entry to US ports. LI also does this
202 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Some more photos of V2-LIC added to the database recently. Many thanks to Gianni Deligny for taking these great shots: View Large View MediumPhoto ©
203 GUYAIR707 : Strange because their 763 flies POS-GEO-JFK and I have never heard of POS pax having to deplane in GEO, I could be wrong. GUYAIR707
204 yellowtail : Yep, we are getting ready for some long lines here in BZE as the TSA is demanding outgoing passport checks (i.e scans) as well....apparently it is no
205 skystar767 : Could it have something to do with the drug problems in GEO?
206 Post contains images A388 : Nice shots. I can imagine Gianni is very anxious to fly these brandnew aircraft himself I wish the airlines in Curacao would buy/lease brandnew aircr
207 guyanam : I very much doubt that BW s making passeners go through, as it adds to the cost of handling these passenger. Its either a US DOT requirment, or the T
208 guyanam : Trick by the US DOT to get passengers to chose US carriers. Similar to the sudden downgrades by the FAA that seem to occur when ever Caribbean carrie
209 Post contains links and images A388 : Guys, I am starting to focus on photographing overflying traffic as well and here's my first photo to be accepted in the database: View Large View Med
210 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Nice photo A388! Im not even gonna try photographing those (though, the skies above Montserrat are pretty empty, literally!), I don't have that kind
211 Post contains images andrefranca : Hello People from the Caribbean!!! I was checking facebook and for my surprise, WINAIR, is expecting their own ATR. They annouced two new routes: EIS
212 817Dreamliiner : Sorry but your a bit late. This was mentioned some time ago.
213 A388 : Guys, Do you know what the current schedule is of LIAT's two ATR72's? Flightaware and flightradar don't seem to give me the most recent results. I'm s
214 Post contains links wadadli : Antigua is expected to experience increases in flights from the New York area for the Winter 2013/2014 season. AA's JFK-ANU flight will go from the us
215 yellowtail : Seriously, why must you make this stuff up? Do you have any proof of this? The US Gov't may be difficult. even tedious to deal with, but all passenge
216 A388 : I'm surprised AUA is getting reductions instead of increased number of flights. At one point UA/CO had 9 flights on saturdays to AUA!!! And this wasn
217 Post contains images andrefranca : I didn't see it That's odd, maybe it justify why I happened to meet 2 arubians in PBM saying they left because they couldn't find jobs these days?
218 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Was mention here: and here: Winair To Get ATR's (by n797mx Jul 11 2013 in Civil Aviation)
219 Post contains images andrefranca : Thaaanks!
220 westindian425 : I'd like to switch gears a bit, guys. How would you compare and rate the inflight service at the Caribbean and Latin American carriers? Who would you
221 guyanam : A passenger boards at GEO and is subject to full scrutiny at that airport. So why should they have to disembark at POS and uindergo an additional che
222 guyanam : Quick question for you? How to people from SKN get US visitor's visas now that the price has gone up and airfares to BGI can run as high as US$ 550?
223 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Thought I'd share this: Just released A loyalty scheme and online check in as well? Sounds good in my opinion, still wont make me fly them though. Her
224 A388 : Guyanam sums it up quite well. Comparing Latin American airlines with Caribbean airlines is like comparing apples to oranges. They operate in totally
225 LimaFoxTango : The TSA simply requires the pax to go thru a security check at the last departure point prior to entering the US irrespective of where he/she may hav
226 guyanam : So do passengers from ANU to STT have to be rechecked in AXA?
227 andrefranca : Great improvement, it's time to MNI return to its "old glory" days! Hopefully more destinations out of MNI I was hopping for that remember? According
228 GUYAIR707 : Now they allow your duty free liquor to be bagged downstairs at POS in POS duty free sealed bags and thus allowing you to take them through security
229 817Dreamliiner : Keep dreaming, I still have my doubts whether we'll get any new destinations out of MNI anytime soon, though, Id like to be proven wrong. I actually
230 817Dreamliiner : Seems like the first ATR 42-600 for Liat will be MSN 1006, the next ATR 72-600 will be MSN 1103. Taken from planespotters.net
231 8b775zq : Visas for SKB residents are still handled by the embassy in BGI. A few of the local travel agencies i.e. Tranquility Vacations and Kantours arrange v
232 LimaFoxTango : Yes, intransit passengers are given a check of their documents as well as identify all cabin luggage. Items not identified are removed. FA's also che
233 817Dreamliiner : Thanks for the info, planespotters didn't have the registrations.
234 guyanam : So if a SKN national plans to fly to the USA they must spend US$700 to fly to BGI (assuming airfare at just over $500) and spend the night. And then
235 8b775zq : Thats exactly what I was trying to explain in my earlier posts as to why the LI airlift is adequate as it is. Most nationals just pay the few extra $
236 guyanam : LI to SKB and NEV is adequate for those islands as is. Will it be if LI decided to cut service if they thought it not profitable?
237 Post contains images A388 : I went on board that brandnew aircraft and wow, who doesn't love the smell of a brandnew aircraft!!! I have totally fallen in love with LIAT's ATR's!
238 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Your Lucky, I haven't seen them yet, but I guess when I head back next month. Glad you got to see it. Hoping to see some Photographs
239 andrefranca : Now they just announced Dominica as well on their facebook page. anyone from SXM here with more info about Winair's plans?
240 8b775zq : I'm sure it will be. We have Winair and AAS on the SXM route as well and those who can't afford or refuse to pay the high airfares simply use the mon
241 yellowtail : Western Caribbeam news: looks like AA will be adding DFW RTB this winter. Things are heating up in RTB!
242 Post contains links BW424 : New thread up. Filled To The Gills - Caribbean Aviation 106 (by BW424 Aug 10 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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