FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3037 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (2 years 22 hours ago) and read 16970 times:
I landed at JFK around 5:30 this morning and taxied right past T4. After watching the construction over the past months/years, it was exciting to see DL aircraft (mostly 738s and 757s, with one 744 presumably for the NRT flight, from what I could see) parked at all the new gates. Unfortunately I did not take a picture, but it looked like they were all set to get up and running this morning. T3, meanwhile, was looking completely deserted and a bit forlorn. I hope things go smoothly at T4 despite the weather and holiday crowds. Can't wait to hear initial impressions, and to try it myself!
brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4483 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 hours ago) and read 11586 times:
Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 5):
Quoting questions (Reply 3):
Wow. Was all the hype in these threads coming from armchair passengers?
Some of it was coming from Delta. Delta keeps calling it a "new terminal." But the terminal was already there; they more or less added 9 gates to an existing pier.
Look at the existing pictures of T4B and just imagine the concourse with new floors and wall treatments. That's pretty much it.
As to the new Delta ticketing lobby, it is basically the old lobby with a section for SkyPriority. The budget apparently did not provide for redoing the floors.
OK so you have a grudge against Delta. I bet if you were to fly from there that you might...you would find something to complain about. Like the blue is too blue or the red Delta widget is not widgety enough. Typical A-Net negative attitude towards anything new.
spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3833 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 hours ago) and read 11268 times:
Quoting lucky777 (Reply 7): Clearly you haven't watched the video, i'd say its more than "new floors and wall treatments".
Well, I watched the video. It looks nice, but you have to admit, it's not really what you'd call a dramatic public space. It's a nicely furnished terminal with some decent food options (though I cringed a little when I saw Shake Shack - hasn't that place's trendiness shelf life expired by now?), but that's all I can see from that video. If you consider that an insult, then I'm not sure what you're expecting us to say.
It is better than what was there before, definitely.
I'm tired of being a wanna-be league bowler. I wanna be a league bowler!
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17085 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 hours ago) and read 11071 times:
Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 5): . Delta keeps calling it a "new terminal." But the terminal was already there; they more or less added 9 gates to an existing pier.
I want to jump on this point too, every time there is some piece of news that media is covering that has to do with aviation the aviation communities jump all over them for their "inaccurate reporting etc.." if they get the slightest bit of information incorrect. Yet this news is given a pass, all day long on CNBC and every article I've read they are touting the new DL Terminal. Yes the 10 year old terminal is being touted as a "New Terminal", when in reality they added a few thousand more feet to an existing concourse and realigned the ticketing, screening areas. It's a huge improvement, and a milestone for DL at JFK, but it's not a new Terminal. T-5 was the last new Terminal built. T-4, where DL is relocating their T-3 operations, opened 10 years ago.
This though is just another sign of just how savvy the DL pr folks are, they add a few thousand square feet and call it a new terminal and everyone picks up on it and runs with it. I guess inviting the media to come out and report on their concourse expansion is not as sexy as the term "new Terminal".
DL747400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8890 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 14): Yes the 10 year old terminal is being touted as a "New Terminal", when in reality they added a few thousand more feet to an existing concourse and realigned the ticketing, screening areas.
Try 346,000 square feet to be exact. More than "a few" I'd say.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 18282 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8865 times:
Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 5): Delta keeps calling it a "new terminal." But the terminal was already there; they more or less added 9 gates to an existing pier.
The check in hall, outdoor deck, and sky club look great, but I think people are going to see the actual gate area and wonder what the hype was about. Nonetheless, a 2x4 to the head would have been preferable to the prior setup so it's a big plus for DL even if it's not mind blowing.