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Frontier TTN Smart Move Part 3  
User currently onlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4403 posts, RR: 6
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Due to length of part two, it has been archived and part three is now available here.

Part two: Frontier TTN Smart Move Part 2 (by iowaman Mar 14 2013 in Civil Aviation)


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7756 times:

If F9 9210 is in the fact the airframe fitted with the higher thrust engines. Assuming all goes well with the test flights we should be hearing something in the form of a formal route announcement for TTN-DEN in the not too distant future.


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Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7735 times:
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Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 1):
If F9 9210 is in the fact the airframe fitted with the higher thrust engines. Assuming all goes well with the test flights we should be hearing something in the form of a formal route announcement for TTN-DEN in the not too distant future.

It's my understanding that it was a repo. I was told FLL-TTN had been cancelled that evening (maintenance) and they needed an aircraft for the TTN flights the following morning.

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User currently offlinejerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7690 times:
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Quoting mariner (Reply 2):
It's my understanding that it was a repo. I was told FLL-TTN had been cancelled that evening (maintenance) and they needed an aircraft for the TTN flights the following morning.

Damn, That would explain the Thursday overnight flight F9 9209 DEN-TTN 1158p 501a
(Our NIMBY friends in Bucks County must have been thrilled)



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Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7621 times:
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Quoting mariner (Reply 2):
It's my understanding that it was a repo. I was told FLL-TTN had been cancelled that evening (maintenance)

Did they happen to mention how the PAX on the canceled FLL-TTN flight were handled. I didn't see a extra section on Friday so I was curious.



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Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7605 times:
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Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 4):
Did they happen to mention how the PAX on the canceled FLL-TTN flight were handled. I didn't see a extra section on Friday so I was curious.

Sorry - don't know, didn't ask, all part of the game. I guess they managed, because an A319 flew TTN-DEN in the early afternoon.

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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7486 times:

In the curiosity department does anyone know what the max weight limit allowed or what weight limit F9 has established it can depart safely from TTN for DEN. (pax, fuel, luggage) It seems they would start flying it half full or within the weight safety perimeters for no other reason than to get the flight out there for the flying public to consider.


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User currently offlinejerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1998 posts, RR: 0
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Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 6):
It seems they would start flying it half full or within the weight safety perimeters for no other reason than to get the flight out there for the flying public to consider.

Only if F9 has established that it could atleast break even on the flight, even then they wouldn't want to waste an airplane not making money. If they thought they could make money on just the weight restricted load they'd have done it already.



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7287 times:

Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 7):
Only if F9 has established that it could atleast break even on the flight,

A lot of businesses take losses in the wonderful world know as marketing. Probably not the best example but many big box grocery stores with gas stations take losses at the fuel pumps in hopes lower prices will bring people into their store. Marketing is a strange bedfellow

F9 knows what their breakeven point is. Even if it is a small loss it might be worth putting the flight out their for brand recognition. I've been told a flight gets cheaper the longer the duration.



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User currently offlinejerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7250 times:
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Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 8):
F9 knows what their breakeven point is. Even if it is a small loss it might be worth putting the flight out their for brand recognition. I've been told a flight gets cheaper the longer the duration.

Hmm..maybe Fly from Trenton to 50+ destinations in the US, Canada, Mexico and Costa Rica sounds good. We'll see, I'd love to have a TTN-DEN flight, but I honestly think they would have done it already. Plus F9 isnt exactly hurting for business at TTN, as parking will tell you.

Though I was told by a flight attendant that they would add Denver in November after the service suspension. I'm not exactly confident in that especially since summer was the better time of the year for PHL-DEN.

[Edited 2013-05-26 19:37:46]


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7124 times:

Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 9):
Hmm..maybe Fly from Trenton to 50+ destinations in the US, Canada, Mexico and Costa Rica sounds good

DEN to fifty is a stretch. TTN-DEN citing a "nature of the beast" is a no-brainer

Although I loved the time I spent in San Jose, Costa Rica; my cold bones could live there. Me thinks TTN- Saint Lucia (I could live there too) would be a seasonal snowbird destination F9 would want to consider.

I'm also intrigued about the potential of Gitmo if it closes as reported in the news lately. There is a lot infrastructure in place which would otherwise go abandoned. Forward looking I think Gitmo is the first step to opening Cuba to U.S. travel.



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 9):
Hmm..maybe Fly from Trenton to 50+ destinations
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 10):
DEN to fifty is a stretch

Correction TTN to fifty is a stretch. I had another DEN brain fart. Although I haven't counted I think F9 already flies to fifty destinations seasonal or otherwise.



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User currently offlinejerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6898 times:
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Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 11):
Correction TTN to fifty is a stretch. I had another DEN brain fart. Although I haven't counted I think F9 already flies to fifty destinations seasonal or otherwise.

Wikipedia says F9 serves 77 destinations. I assumed that 27 was a good estimate of the ones that couldn't be reached via DEN or would be too much of a back track.



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6764 times:

In the latest F9 email add I saw some really great fares from TTN. Ten destinations for $69 or less each way.

ATL $59
MDW $59
CMH $39
DTW $49
FLL $59
RSW $69
MSY $59
MCO $69
RDU $39
TPA $59

Tickets must be purchased by 11:59 p.m. Eastern time, June 3, 2013. Fares are one way for domestic travel through August 17, 2013, for flights operating Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday



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Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6468 times:
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Supposedly (Facebook) there will be a schedule extension this coming week-end (Sunday) through to early January, so we should start to get some idea of the plans for TTN for the winter.

As it stands now, TTN has met all the various "tests" with pretty much flying colours, but the question is - what happens now, and, especially, winter?

At the moment, based on what's available on the website, they're planning to bring back everything after the runway hiatus, with some reduction in frequency, but I guess that could change. I'm slightly surprised. I'm intrigued to see how CMH will do in mid-winter, even at 2 x weekly.

I assume some of the frequency reduction will change, to Florida, especially, because the present post-hiatus booking is only for one week in early November and I guess they'll ramp Florida back up a bit by the end of that month.

But will they add anything new? Assuming the terminal remodelling goes ahead, they'll have three "gates" and more space, and if they stick with the frequency reductions, they'll have some some spare aircraft time, but it is a good idea to add for winter - except to Florida?

CVG got excited about the idea of more service from Frontier but all CEO Siegel would say is that IF they do add anything it would be to ILG or TTN. I like the idea of TTN-BNA - but again would they do that in winter?

I'm intrigued about Florida, too. Are the four destinations it, or are they considering, say, PBI - or even JAX? Mostly, I'd like to see TTN-NAS, but I'm not holding my breath.

If they are going to add any new cities, I doubt they'll do so with the schedule extension, I assume they'll announce them separately, later, but at least we should get a few clues from the extension.

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User currently offlinejerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6413 times:
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Quoting mariner (Reply 14):
they'll have three "gates" and more space

No I think it will still be 2. The additional gate, will likely be an actual physical one, meaning a door to the tarmac so that it will be possible to board 2 aircraft at the same time. The original gate will be Gate 1 which will lead off to the left to the hardstand that currently serves as the secondary arrival gate and Gate 2 will be the door that currently serves as the entrance to arrivals area that goes into the baggage claim. The baggage claim area will be redone a bit into a waiting area, probably with those bus station seats that everyone seems to like so much. And Gate 2 will be directed to what is currently used as the gate 1 hardstand. F9 might change its schedule so that it is using both gates frequently so that it doesn't leave a hole open for lets say Alleigant to dip its toe into the water at TTN. Leaving only undesirable times for leisure pax like early morning 6-7am open.

Also having 2 gates and boarding two flights at a time will likely lead to TTN or F9 buying inexpensive gate signs showing flight number time and destination for behind the podiums

[Edited 2013-05-30 19:01:15]


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Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6402 times:
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Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 15):
No I think it will still be 2. The additional gate, will likely be an actual physical one, meaning a door to the tarmac so that it will be possible to board 2 aircraft at the same time.

They said three gates at the last Freeholders meeting, so I'll stick with that - however you want to define "gate.".  

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User currently offlinejerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6363 times:
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Quoting mariner (Reply 16):
They said three gates at the last Freeholders meeting, so I'll stick with that - however you want to define "gate.".

Since I'm just using news reports and my general knowledge of the terminal and your getting it from the horse's mouth then I shall defer to you.



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Quoting jerseyguy (Reply 17):
Since I'm just using news reports and my general knowledge of the terminal and your getting it from the horse's mouth then I shall defer to you

All I know is what the plan is. Whether the plan happens is another matter. I don't think (?) the Freeholders have given it final approval yet.

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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6280 times:

It appears a daily UA flight between CVG and EWR is most delayed flight (the article uses worst flight in America) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-wo...t-flight-in-america-155631923.html

The problem appears to be on the EWR side of the equation.

If TTN-CMH pans out maybe F9 should consider flying TTN-CVG as a alternate to UA CVG-EWR flight. 39 miles roughly separate TTN and EWR. F9 could then brand itself as a statistic buster.

[Edited 2013-05-31 07:36:36]


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User currently offlinephlwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6224 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 19):
It appears a daily UA flight between CVG and EWR is most delayed flight (the article uses worst flight in America) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-wo...t-flight-in-america-155631923.html

The problem appears to be on the EWR side of the equation.

If TTN-CMH pans out maybe F9 should consider flying TTN-CVG as a alternate to UA CVG-EWR flight. 39 nine miles roughly separate TTN and EWR. F9 could then brand itself as a statistic buster.

They might be a statistic buster, but I doubt the flight would be profitable, particularly without the benefit of connections on the EWR side.


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Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6106 times:

Quoting phlwok (Reply 20):

I'm no route planner but I'm sure they would find away to align it with their DEN-CVG-DEN flight. Just think TTN to ANC or FAI all in one day via DEN. Not to shabby for a hybrid LCC/ULCC



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Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5863 times:
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The November/December schedule is out for TTN


TTN-MCO SA)">5X Sun/Tue/Wed/Fri/Sat (Up From 4x)
TTN-MDW 4X Sun/Mon/Wed/Thurs (Down From 6X)
TTN-TPA 3X Tue/Fri/Sat SAME
TTN-FLL 3X Mon/Wed/Sat SAME
TTN-RSW 3X Tue/Thur/Sat Up from 2X
TTN-ATL 4X Sun/Mon/Thur/Fri SAME
TTN-DTW 3X Mon/Wed/Fri (Down from 4X)
TTN CMH 2X Sun/Thur (Down From 3X)
TTN-MSY SEASONAL
TTN-RDU SA)">5X Sun/Mon/Wed/Thur/Fri (From 6x)

Total Reduction is -3X Weekly. Being that they added to MCO and RSW. I'll assume it will be another 3X FLA destination.

My guess: 3X weekly seasonal West Palm Beach (PBI).

[Edited 2013-06-02 11:35:18]


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Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5745 times:
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The number of E190's flying for Frontier continues to reduce. As of 9/9, there will be no more E190 departures ex-DEN.

I believe 2 x E190 will remain, flying the pro-rate DCA stuff, but I don't know what happens to those Republic DCA slots after separation.

I'm not sorry to see the E190's go - it's tough to make money with them in an LCC model and with fuel at these present prices. I know passengers like them, but they are maintenance hogs, as JetBlue indicates:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1398...nance-costs-clip-jetblue-s-profits

Higher Maintenance Costs Clip JetBlue's Profits

Additionally, in the first quarter, JetBlue’s maintenance and repair costs continued to grow at high rates driven by its Embraer 190 aircraft fleet.


The meltdown of the E190's at DEN last Christmas caused numerous flight cancellations and a lot of unhappy passengers.

It is the intention that Frontier become an all-Airbus airline, which I think is a great idea, but - there is a "but."

That all-Airbus decision was made before TTN, which, because of the runway, is limited to shorter routes. Yes, the A319's can handle all of them, but that raises another question.

People have been scratching their heads about that unresolved (to my knowledge) Republic order for the C Series. They were originally ordered for Frontier, but that went the way of all flesh with the all-Airbus decision.

And I wonder - only wonder - if that will change? Is there a place for a small fleet of C Series - at TTN? It might open up some routes for which the A319, is too much plane but then the question is - if they're not dense enough for the A319, are they worth flying at all?

JetBlue seems to think so by keeping the E190's on less dense routes, but JetBlue is no ULCC.

So I dunno. I don't know enough about the economics of the C Series or the economic implications of a two-type fleet and I have no information that separated Frontier would even consider the C Series.

I would love to know how Republic will resolve that C Series order, though.

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Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5689 times:
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Quoting mariner (Reply 23):
And I wonder - only wonder - if that will change? Is there a place for a small fleet of C Series - at TTN? It might open up some routes for which the A319, is too much plane but then the question is - if they're not dense enough for the A319, are they worth flying at all?

To borrow your phrase for a second, I'm no tech-wallah but a CS100 (according to wiki) can take off at MTOW in only 4800ft. And has a range of 2900 Nautical Miles. Which means a CS100 could fly anywhere in the country with 108 pax (with mixed 36" pitch Stretch and 32" Regular class and a 19" width). But I don't know if a 2 plane system would be good for costs. However that being said, it would allow F9 to go into airports with smaller runways and still be able to go anywhere in the country with a decent amount of pax. That being said. Can a A319 perform similiarly with a lighter pax load? Other questions are does the c-series have lower operating costs then a A319 that is weight restricted? According to wiki, "Bombardier claims the Cseries will burn 20% less fuel per trip than these competitors." which include the A318/A319


Oh just FYI an A318 requires 5997ft for takeoff at MTOW A319 needs 7100ft

[Edited 2013-06-02 18:54:22]


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25 GentFromAlaska : You almost have to think decisions made in the airline biz have an approximate life span of six months or until the next. CEO comes aboard (whichever
26 Post contains images mcg : Maybe F9 could source some gently used 318's for TTN?!?
27 Post contains links jerseyguy : I wonder if the drop in Mercer County's credit rating will effect the bonds that they are going to put out to pay for the parking and terminal improve
28 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Aa1 and Aa2 in muni bonds are explained here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_credit_rating Both Aa1 and Aa2 remain in the high category neither are
29 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Parking fees at TTN delayed http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...n-mercer_airport.html#incart_river "The freeholders want to set a limit of $10 per
30 jerseyguy : Translation: I plan to raise the cost of parking pretty quickly come 2015 (a little over a year from the November 2013 start date), I'll need to rais
31 Post contains links jerseyguy : Thought this was a nice story, it was fortunate that the EMT was on board. http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...on_a_frontier_airlines_flight.html
32 Post contains links jerseyguy : It's finally offical Freeholders approve parking and baggage claim projects Info is in last paragraph of NJ Senate Election story http://www.nj.com/me
33 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : The words parking facility are used which I accept to be more than a paved asphalt lot as in a garage of some sort. And then there was this idiot pax
34 bobloblaw : So why is the E90 such a lousy plane MX wise? It is not like the E75 which airlines seem to like?
35 Post contains links mariner : No idea, sorry, I'm not technical. JetBlue had problems with them from the git-go - this article is from 2007 when they had just entered service: htt
36 Post contains links jerseyguy : Mercer County Fiscal 2014 budget has cuts to Trenton Mercer Airport, could this have been why they applied for a PFC they knew this was coming? "Offic
37 Post contains links jerseyguy : Mercer County Fiscal 2014 budget has cuts to Trenton Mercer Airport, could this have been why they applied for a PFC they knew this was coming? "Offic
38 Post contains links and images mariner : A couple of interesting things came out of the Frontier Open Day (with A320) at ILG - they're looking to change the name of the airport officially - h
39 jerseyguy : Starting after the November relaunch of service, DEN-TTN will operate as F9 916 DEN 300pm TTN 940pm 1 (MDW) TTN-DEN will be operated by another aircr
40 Post contains images mariner : PIA it may be, but they can't do what isn't technically possible. They've said they're working on it, but I don't know what the solution is. I don't
41 jerseyguy : An A318 w/sharklets would do it as MTOW w/o sharklets is 5997. But then they'd have to keep a 318 and retrofit it with sharklets. And of course the r
42 mariner : I doubt that will happen. The last A318 - 803 - leaves the fleet in August. mariner
43 GentFromAlaska : Borrowed from enrilia OAG post. WN DEN-PHL NOV 3>1.9 DEC 3>1.9 Possibly a seasonal reduction. This is a fairly steep; one or more of WN daily no
44 Post contains images jerseyguy : Lets hope it doesn't effect PHL traffic too much don't want to wake the sleeping majors It will be interesting to see where the 3X weekly frequencies
45 Post contains images point2point : Seasonal..... DEN-northeast U.S. pax traffic seems to drop off a cliff during the winter months, even if a remarkable ski season is happening in Colo
46 GentFromAlaska : No doubt there will be some reductions. The planner in me can't help thinking about the TTN closure for about 2.5 months for construction/rehab/updat
47 jerseyguy : These will be the first holiday travel periods for TTN with more than just FL service, it should be interesting. There will probably be some people w
48 Post contains images point2point : I know that, quite obviously, the closure of the airport this fall will definitely reduce traffic out of TTN. However, I meant to say that DEN-TTN pa
49 mariner : The non-Florida routes in winter are the last "test" of TTN. There's always the chance that there simply isn't enough traffic to support all of them b
50 GentFromAlaska : PSM would be interesting addition; roughly 35 miles south of PWM on the NH/ME state line. You have the Navy submarine seaport there so there would be
51 slcdeltarumd11 : Remember Den is such an incredible connection city now for Southwest, United and Frontier its hard to compare anything to summer when all flights are
52 mariner : Sure it will. Even TTN-MDW drops a frequency for the winter. I think of TTN (and ILG) scheduling as independent from DEN and all the TTN/ILG non-Flor
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