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787 Production/delivery Thread Part 15  
User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4416 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 58130 times:
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Due to length, the previous thread has been archived and part 15 started here.

Previous thread: 787 Production/delivery Thread Part 14 (by 777ER May 3 2013 in Civil Aviation)

307 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 58088 times:

I thought it was worth while to bring over United787's update from Part 14 to kick this off -tortugamon

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 52 Aircraft to 8 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO 2013
NH-17; JL-7; UA–6; AI-5; QR-5; ET-4; LA-3; LO-2

2013 DELIVERIES TO DATE
L/N 54 - VT-ANJ – 3/28/2013 - AI #6
L/N 83 - JA818A - 5/14/2013 - NH #18
L/N 86 – SP-LRC – 5/16/2013 – LO #3

NEXT IN LINE FOR DELIVERY Rough Estimate – The AI, CZ and HU delivery line up is a crapshoot…
L/N 72 - VT-ANM – 5/xx/2013 - AI #7
L/N 89 – JA830J – 5/xx/2013 – JL #8
L/N 34 – B-2725 – 5/28/2013 - CZ #1
L/N 92 - G-TUIA – 5/30/2013 – BY #1
L/N 76 - B-2722 – 5/xx/2013 - HU #1
L/N 94 - G-TUIB – 6/2/2013 – BY #2
L/N 43 - B-2727 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #2
L/N 81 - B-2723 – x/xx/2013 - HU #2
L/N 97 - JA819A - 6/xx/2013 - NH #19
L/N 73 - B-2728 – x/xx/2013 - HU #3
L/N 90 - VT-ANN – 6/xx/2013 - AI #8
L/N 98 – JA831J – 6/xx/2013 - JL #9
L/N 85 - B–2732 - x/xx/2013 - HU #4
L/N 99 - A7-BCD – 6/xx/2013 - QR #6
L/N 101 - JA820A - 6/xx/2013 - NH #20
L/N 96 - G-TUIC – x/xx/2013 – BY #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 87 - SP-LRD – 8/xx/2013 – LO #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 79 - B-2730 – x/xx/2013 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 88 - SP-LRE – 8/xx/2013 – LO #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 93 - B-2733 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 95 - B-2734 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 39 - ET-AOO – xx/xx/2013 - ET #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – x/xx/2013 - AI #9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 100 - B-2735 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 102 – LN-BKA - 6/27/2013 - DY #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 103 - A7-BCE – x/xx/2013 - QR #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 105 – JA832J – x/xx/2013 - JL #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 106 - G-TUID – x/xx/2013 – BY #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 107 - JA821A - x/xx/2013 - NH #21 Awaiting first flight
L/N 108 – G-ZBJA - x/xx/2013 - BA #1 Awaiting first flight
L/N 110 - JA822A - x/xx/2013 - NH #22 Awaiting first flight
L/N 111 – G-ZBJB - x/xx/2013 - BA #2 Awaiting first flight
L/N 112 – LN-BKB - 7/xx/2013 - DY #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 21 – JA823J – x/xx/2013 - JL #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - x/xx/2013 - BA #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 104 - B-2736 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #6 Awaiting first flight
L/N 115 – XA-??? - x/xx/2013 - AM #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 109 - A7-??? – x/xx/2013 - QR #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 116 – N29907 – x/xx/2013 – UA #7 Awaiting first flight


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 58005 times:

Matt Tweeted a picture of an AeroMexico 787 in full livery:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 1):
L/N 115 – XA-??? - x/xx/2013 - AM #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight

I assume the aircraft above is this one, it will be N961AM according to Matt.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 57884 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
I assume the aircraft above is this one, it will be N961AM according to Matt.

I think you are right. I have been waiting for a picture of it as it should have been out of the paint shop for at least a week by now. Can't wait for the HD version.

tortugamon


User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 316 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 57861 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
I assume the aircraft above is this one, it will be N961AM according to Matt.
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 3):
Can't wait for the HD version.

Yes, it will have a US registration as it is financed by ILFC. Three 787-8 will be ILFC financed, other -8s will be fully owned. I am not sure about the six -9s.

We all in Mexico can't wait for an HD pic too.

Thanks to the great Matt Cawby and all the "firsts" he has brought us.

LN115 N961AM First commercial flight to be, so far: MEX-MTY (one off) OCT 1st, 2013.

[Edited 2013-05-25 01:47:32]


My other plane is an A380.
User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 57851 times:

Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Reply 4):
LN115 N961AM First commercial flight to be, so far: MEX-MTY (one off) OCT 1st, 2013.

Qantas just announced they are expecting their 788 (LN 123) in September so I would think Oct 1st is definitely possible for LN 115. It has to be painful to see pictures of the 'finished' aircraft in May and have to debate whether or not they will have it in time for an Oct 1 service launch   .

tortugamon


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 57808 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
Matt Tweeted a picture of an AeroMexico 787 in full livery:

No painted nacelles.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 57748 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 5):
It has to be painful to see pictures of the 'finished' aircraft in May and have to debate whether or not they will have it in time for an Oct 1 service launch   .

Yes, but in fairness, the same thing is going on with BA's A380. It rolled out several months ago, sat around, eventually got painted a few weeks ago, and is scheduled for delivery in..... August.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 57381 times:

I like the painting on the nose (is that painting)

also off-topic- why does AM register in the US? Is it because they go through a lessor?



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User currently offlineSQ22 From Germany, joined Feb 2012, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 57062 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):

also off-topic- why does AM register in the US? Is it because they go through a lessor?

Please see reply 4:

Quoting MayaviaERJ190 (Reply 4):
Yes, it will have a US registration as it is financed by ILFC. Three 787-8 will be ILFC financed, other -8s will be fully owned. I am not sure about the six -9s.


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 56909 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):
also off-topic- why does AM register in the US? Is it because they go through a lessor?

U.S. Lessors have had some interesting experiences down in Mexico trying to repossess birds that were on the Mexican (XA-) registry...   Keeping an N-number on the aircraft keepss the ownership straight.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 56885 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 2):
Matt Tweeted a picture of an AeroMexico 787 in full livery:

Missing the beautiful bare metal scheme...   



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 56711 times:

And ZA317 is back in the air.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130525/1930Z/KPAE/KPAE



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 56682 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):
And ZA317 is back in the air.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../KPAE

That's flight #8, wow!


User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 912 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 56304 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):

It doesn't look like paint, no. It looks as though it's been added there by the camera.



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User currently onlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 573 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 55321 times:

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 14):

Deffinately as its on the nose of all the 787's in that photo.



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User currently offlinezkokq From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 54966 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 8):
I like the painting on the nose (is that painting)

Its the highlight notification the camera uses to show the photographer where whites are overexposed.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 54886 times:

Quoting zkokq (Reply 16):
Its the highlight notification the camera uses to show the photographer where whites are overexposed.

Ahh i just now noticed that (seeing as I set that on my camera too)
that would look cool though, showing some sort of aztec art on the nose of the a/c lol



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 53927 times:

GUN ZA380 (34) out on a C-3:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...0/history/20130526/1700Z/KPAE/KPAE


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 53665 times:

TUI ZA319 (96) scheduled for a B-1 today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE319


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 53472 times:

With ZA319 airborne on its B-1 that's 10 in little over a month at PAE and with the AOG teams returning to help out at home, delivering 10+/- a month for the rest of the year at both facilities is well within reach, finishing up the year at 75 +/- as predicted by NYC777 -- maybe a couple more.

User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 53326 times:

ANA ZA513 (97) airborne on a C-1:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE513


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 53098 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 20):
maybe a couple more.

Really hoping its more.



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User currently offlinexaapb From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 443 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 21 hours ago) and read 52343 times:

Evening,

Here is a very good picture of AM first 787 taken from Moonm Flickr gallery:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8860021729/in/photostream/

Greetings!


P.s. Sent from iPad



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 51905 times:

Ai India should be taking delivery of its 7th Dreamliner today and should arrive in Delhi on the 29th. It would be ZA241 (LN 72, VT-ANM) from Charleston.


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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 25, posted (1 year 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 52150 times:

China Southern Airlines announced the carrier will take delivery of its first Boeing 787 aircraft from Boeing on 31-May-2013 with the aircraft to arrive in Guangzhou on 02-Jun-2013.

http://centreforaviation.com/news/ch...t-boeing-787-on-31-may-2013-233400

A


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 26, posted (1 year 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 52134 times:

Looks like there will be a number of 787 deliveries this week:
AI - ZA241
CZ - ZA380
TUI - ZA317

Possible:

JAL - ZA184


I don't know about Hainan but it's looking doubtful. No customer flights as of yet.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 27, posted (1 year 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 52061 times:

I also wonder why one of the Hainan birds at PAE (LN79) has not been painted yet? It rolled out some months ago.


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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 28, posted (1 year 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 51888 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 26):
Looks like there will be a number of 787 deliveries this week:
AI - ZA241
CZ - ZA380
TUI - ZA317

Possible:

JAL - ZA184

How about ANA ZA513 and TUI ZA318?


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 29, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 51480 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 28):
How about ANA ZA513 and TUI ZA318?

I think those will be next month but we'll see.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 30, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 50868 times:

According to Guy Norris the 787-9 is currently being loaded into the assembly line. Also, he reports that the first China Southern bird will not be delivered until the June 1. June is going to be a big month.

"...workers in the Everett assembly plant are in the final stages of preparing to install – or load - the major fuselage sections of the first 787-9, ZB001, into the production tooling. The aircraft is widely expected to be completed and ready for the start of flight tests in the late August timeframe. Meanwhile the long-anticipated start of 787 deliveries from Everett to China is expected to begin on June 1 with the departure of the first aircraft to China Southern. The airline is expected to take eight aircraft by the end of 2013."

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.as...-969681993e5c#.UaXou7jqPgg.twitter

tortugamon


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 31, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 50827 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 30):
787 deliveries from Everett to China is expected to begin on June 1 with the departure of the first aircraft to China Southern

Actually Guy is correct. CSN delivery will occur on May 31st. Delivery flight will leave PAE on June 1st and arrive in CAN on June 2nd.

Cheers
A


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 32, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 50715 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 31):
Actually Guy is correct. CSN delivery will occur on May 31st. Delivery flight will leave PAE on June 1st and arrive in CAN on June 2nd.

While delivery flight would occur on June 1, actual payment and delivery would occur on May 31st thus on Boeing's O & D site, the delivery would be recorded as May 31st.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 33, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 50598 times:

Gotcha. You don't have to drive it off the lot in order to own it. Makes sense.

tortugamon


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 34, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 50618 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 33):
Gotcha. You don't have to drive it off the lot in order to own it. Makes sense.

Precisely! There should be a number of these today into Friday. I think 7Boeing7 might be on to something with ZA513. Thomson said that tehy plan on taking ZA318 next week but ZA317 should be flown out by Saturday at the latest.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 35, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 50523 times:

Evening from Japan,

Insider told me that we should expect a "few" NH deliveries in June.


....I think this is common knowledge though, right?



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 36, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 50479 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 35):
Evening from Japan,

Insider told me that we should expect a "few" NH deliveries in June.


....I think this is common knowledge though, right?

There are 4 NH 787s out at Paine right now, 2 of which have already flown.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 37, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 50437 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 35):
Insider told me that we should expect a "few" NH deliveries in June.

hkcanadaexpat projected the following ANA deliveries up thread. LN 83 has already been delivered.

1) LN 83 / ZA 512 / JA-818A (May 2013)
2) LN 97 / ZA 513 / JA-819A (May/June 2013)
3) LN 101 / ZA 120 / JA-820A (June 2013)
4) LN 107 / ZA 514 / JA-821A (June/July 2013)
5) LN 110 / ZA 121 / JA-822A (July 2013)
6) LN 120 / ZA 122 / JA-823A (August 2013)
7) LN 132 / ZA 515 / JA-824A (November/December 2013)
8) LN 140 / ZA 123 / JA-825A (January/February 2014) * Charleston
9) LN 147 / ZA 124 / JA-827A (January/February 2014)
10) LN 148 / ZA 516 / JA-828A (January/February 2014)

tortugamon


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 38, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 49819 times:

Can anyone confirm what B787s have been built and delivered from Charleston so far? I have four for Air India, VT-ANI / J / K / L. Are there any more?

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 39, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 49746 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 38):
Can anyone confirm what B787s have been built and delivered from Charleston so far? I have four for Air India, VT-ANI / J / K / L. Are there any more?

Nope, you can see the full production list up to LN 160 on my blog.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 40, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 49141 times:

Boeing has delivered JA830J to JAL on May 30 and it will arrive in NRT on May 31.

[Edited 2013-05-30 04:59:20]


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 41, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 48967 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 40):
Boeing has delivered JA830J to JAL on May 30 and it will arrive in NRT on May 31.

Do you have a source (not that I doubt you)?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 42, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 48981 times:

I first saw on Twitter:

http://twitter.com/JALPak/status/340046395002220544

Which links to this site:

http://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/21148

And if we translate it with Google Translate:

Quote:
May 30, Japan Airlines (JAL, 9201) revealed that it has received a Boeing 787 to be No. 8 eye. Registration number in JA830J, expected to arrive at the Narita in the afternoon on the 31st.

8 Unit aircraft Boeing is resuming after a delivery of 787 on May 14, JAL was first received. I is equipped with an improved battery.
All eight machines JAL held in the international specification machine, number of seats a total of 186 seats 42 seats business, 144 economy seats. Ueki Yoshiharu president, stance that (put into) long distance while. Effect can be demonstrated that it withstand the use of long distance while medium-sized machine economical and place that most excellent of this "plane in the conference held in Tokyo and as "not changed, and showed again the idea of ​​turning into long-haul international flights in the future.

Operation of 787 resumes from the 1st June. JL035 flights Singapore to go to depart at 1:00 am Haneda is the first resume flights. The July 1, Narita was scheduled to be opened in the four round trips per week from February 25, initially, to increase flights to daily in the first half of 2001 - it opens in the daily operation of seven round-trip week, the Helsinki line.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 43, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 48967 times:

Additionally someone else tweeted that Thomson G-TUIA (ZA317) is due to arrive in Manchester on May 31 at 11am local time. So ZA317 must have been delivered too, or it will be delivered later today.

http://twitter.com/MrRossHallam/status/340013363503448064

[Edited 2013-05-30 06:20:36]


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 44, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 48935 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 43):
Additionally someone else tweeted that Thomson G-TUIA (ZA317) is due to arrive in Manchester on May 31 at 11am local time. So ZA317 must have been delivered too, or it will be delivered later today.

http://twitter.com/MrRossHallam/stat...48064

Yup that jives with the info I have and I also believe that ZA318 (G-TUIB) will be delivered tomorrow as it's due in Manchester on June 1.



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User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 390 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 48874 times:

So Thomson can begin their first 787 operations with two frames at once out of the box. Nice!

User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 46, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 48853 times:

It would be great to get an updated overhead picture of Everett. If I am not mistaken there should be more aircraft (just 787?) there then at any point in history and should hopefully be declining from this point forward.

tortugamon


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 47, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 48699 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 43):
Thomson G-TUIA (ZA317) is due to arrive in Manchester on May 31

ZA317 has been delivered: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=4

 Boeing 787 -8 34422 92 G-TUIA Thomson Airways delivery 30may13 PAE-MAN



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User currently offlineual747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 48548 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 46):
It would be great to get an updated overhead picture of Everett. If I am not mistaken there should be more aircraft (just 787?) there then at any point in history and should hopefully be declining from this point forward.

Sadly we don't have regular photos from KPAE anymore:


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2731 posts, RR: 2
Reply 49, posted (1 year 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 48066 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 40):
Boeing has delivered JA830J to JAL on May 30 and it will arrive in NRT on May 31.
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 47):
ZA317 has been delivered:

Great news, now if we can get an CZ delivery plus HU and maybe even AI, the floodgates should open!


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 50, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 47630 times:

Thompson delivery flight in progress..........

http://i39.tinypic.com/2m2j4ty.jpg



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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 51, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 47615 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 44):
Yup that jives with the info I have and I also believe that ZA318 (G-TUIB) will be delivered tomorrow as it's due in Manchester on June 1.

I've heard this one may have been delayed to June 5 delivery and June 6 arrival in MAN.

A


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 52, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 47811 times:

As a side note, B-2722 (Hainan Airlines #1) conducted a C1 today in Charleston.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE431

Cheers
A


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 53, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 47547 times:

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 48):
Sadly we don't have regular photos from KPAE anymore:

Seems like Matt is back up and running:

http://kpae.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/paine-field-may-30.html



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User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 47506 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 49):
Great news, now if we can get an CZ delivery plus HU and maybe even AI, the floodgates should open!

1st CZ's 787 will be deliveried today (31 May) and will arrive China in 2 June.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 55, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 47426 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 50):
Thompson delivery flight in progress..........

Picture of the takeoff here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8897553039/



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2770 posts, RR: 2
Reply 56, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 47371 times:

Video (not mine) of the JAL and TUI deliveries on Thursday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-g0FeFj7mQ

Excellent wing rock by the JAL crew! 



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 57, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 47248 times:

http://i40.tinypic.com/jv0x14.png


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 58, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 47136 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 40):
Boeing has delivered JA830J to JAL on May 30 and it will arrive in NRT on May 31.

Pictures of the delivery flight here:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6287.htm
http://paineairport.com/kpae6288.htm



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 59, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 47016 times:

We were all wrong about Qatar; both Air India and Qatar 787 will be present at the Paris airshow.

http://www.paris-air-show.com/GB/TRADE-VISITORS/Aircraft-list.htm



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 60, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 46915 times:

Delivery flight of G-TUIB (ZA318):

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/T...5/history/20130531/2100Z/KPAE/EGCC

[Edited 2013-05-31 04:48:19]


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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 61, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 46836 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 53):
Seems like Matt is back up and running:

Great news.

Quoting KPDX (Reply 56):

Video (not mine) of the JAL and TUI deliveries on Thursday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-g0FeFj7mQ
Excellent wing rock by the JAL crew! 

I love the JAL waving, very cool.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 59):
We were all wrong about Qatar; both Air India and Qatar 787 will be present at the Paris airshow.

I see that they plan both static and flight displays. Does that necessarily mean two separate aircraft? Also, how can you tell it is AI and QR, I could not tell from the link.

tortugamon


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 62, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 46781 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 61):
Does that necessarily mean two separate aircraft?

It doesn't, but the Paris airshow website shows 2 787 operators: Qatar and Boeing.

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 61):
Also, how can you tell it is AI and QR, I could not tell from the link.

Qatar is confirmed on that website, Boeing is the other operator and given the latest flight activity with LN90 I would say they will use the Air India aircraft.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 63, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 46707 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 62):

I see it now. So QR will be on static display. Got it.

tortugamon


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 64, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 46573 times:

CSN81 poped up, sounds like a delivery flight number but the route is PAE-PAE?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...1/history/20130531/1400Z/KPAE/KPAE



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 65, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 46333 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 64):
CSN81 poped up, sounds like a delivery flight number but the route is PAE-PAE?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C.../KPAE

Crew training/familiarization?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 66, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46243 times:

The flight path has been changed, it's PAE-MWH now. Likely some crew training indeed.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 67, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46115 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 51):
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 44):
Yup that jives with the info I have and I also believe that ZA318 (G-TUIB) will be delivered tomorrow as it's due in Manchester on June 1.

I've heard this one may have been delayed to June 5 delivery and June 6 arrival in MAN.

Delivery flight for this one scheduled for later today.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 68, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 45772 times:

Any news on LN 72 VT-ANM and LN 97 JA819A? 97 had its C-1 4 days ago and I thought I had read that both were expected to be delivered this week. Four aircraft delivered in two days is quite the achievement but six would be incredible.

tortugamon


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 69, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 45764 times:

Yes see reply #60 for the delivery flight.


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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 70, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 45716 times:

Reply #60 is for Thomson's second bird. I am asking about Air India's seventh or ANA's 19th.

At least the Air India aircraft was due to be delivered this week:

http://atwonline.com/airframes/air-india-prepares-more-787-deliveries

tortugamon


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 71, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 45580 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 70):
Reply #60 is for Thomson's second bird. I am asking about Air India's seventh or ANA's 19th.

At least the Air India aircraft was due to be delivered this week:

AI can still be delivered today and flyaway tomorrow and it would still count as a delivery in May. Same for ANA. Lets see which 787s leave tomorrow. We do know that China Southern was delivered today and will leave tomorrow for China. Boeing has recovered quite nicely from the battery fiasco with 6 deliveries this month thus far. A very good month for them.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 72, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 45495 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 70):
Reply #60 is for Thomson's second bird. I am asking about Air India's seventh or ANA's 19th.

Sorry, I was replying to NYC777. You and me posted around the same time.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 73, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 45463 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 71):
A very good month for them.

Fixing 50 aircraft in the field, an increase in the production rate, and delivering 6 new aircraft. A great month indeed.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 72):
Sorry, I was replying to NYC777.

Oops.

tortugamon


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 74, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 45269 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 68):
Any news on LN 72 VT-ANM and LN 97 JA819A?

Looks like ANA ZA513 (97) has a flight plan on file for later this evening -- another one down:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ANA9399


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2731 posts, RR: 2
Reply 75, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 44822 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 73):
Fixing 50 aircraft in the field, an increase in the production rate, and delivering 6 new aircraft. A great month indeed.

Plus two new operators which I would imagine is a lot of extra work.

June could be huge with the way things are lining up!

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 57 Aircraft to 10 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO 2013
NH-17; JL-7; UA–6; AI-5; QR-5; ET-4; LA-3; LO-2

2013 DELIVERIES TO DATE
L/N 54 - VT-ANJ – 3/28/2013 - AI #6
L/N 83 - JA818A - 5/14/2013 - NH #18
L/N 86 – SP-LRC – 5/16/2013 – LO #3
L/N 89 – JA830J – 5/30/2013 – JL #8
L/N 92 - G-TUIA – 5/30/2013 – BY #1
L/N 34 – B-2725 – 5/31/2013 - CZ #1
L/N 94 - G-TUIB – 5/31/2013 – BY #2
L/N 97 - JA819A - 5/31/2013 - NH #19

NEXT IN LINE FOR DELIVERY Rough Estimate – The AI and HU delivery line up is a crapshoot…
L/N 72 - VT-ANM – 6/xx/2013 - AI #7
L/N 76 - B-2722 – 6/xx/2013 - HU #1
L/N 43 - B-2727 – 6/xx/2013 - CZ #2
L/N 81 - B-2723 – x/xx/2013 - HU #2
L/N 73 - B-2728 – x/xx/2013 - HU #3
L/N 90 - VT-ANN – 6/xx/2013 - AI #8 (Paris Air Show?)
L/N 98 – JA831J – 6/xx/2013 - JL #9
L/N 85 - B–2732 - x/xx/2013 - HU #4
L/N 99 - A7-BCD – 6/xx/2013 - QR #6 (Paris Air Show?)
L/N 101 - JA820A - 6/xx/2013 - NH #20
L/N 96 - G-TUIC – 6/xx/2013 – BY #3
L/N 87 - SP-LRD – 8/xx/2013 – LO #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 79 - B-2730 – x/xx/2013 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 88 - SP-LRE – 8/xx/2013 – LO #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 93 - B-2733 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 95 - B-2734 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 39 - ET-AOO – xx/xx/2013 - ET #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – x/xx/2013 - AI #9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 100 - B-2735 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 102 – LN-BKA - 6/27/2013 - DY #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 103 - A7-BCE – x/xx/2013 - QR #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 105 – JA832J – x/xx/2013 - JL #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 106 - G-TUID – x/xx/2013 – BY #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 107 - JA821A - x/xx/2013 - NH #21 Awaiting first flight
L/N 108 – G-ZBJA - x/xx/2013 - BA #1 Awaiting first flight
L/N 110 - JA822A - x/xx/2013 - NH #22 Awaiting first flight
L/N 111 – G-ZBJB - x/xx/2013 - BA #2 Awaiting first flight
L/N 112 – LN-BKB - 7/xx/2013 - DY #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 21 – JA823J – x/xx/2013 - JL #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - x/xx/2013 - BA #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 104 - B-2736 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #6 Awaiting first flight
L/N 115 – N961AM - x/xx/2013 - AM #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 109 - A7-??? – x/xx/2013 - QR #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 116 - A7-??? – x/xx/2013 - QR #9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 117 – N29907 – x/xx/2013 – UA #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 118 - CC-BBE - x/xx/2013 - LA #4 Awaiting first flight


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 76, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 44616 times:
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Quoting United787 (Reply 75):
L/N 118 - CC-BBE - x/xx/2013 - LA #4 Awaiting first flight

By the end of August LATAM expects that both CC-BBE (L/N 118) and CC-BBD (L/N 113) should be delivered to the company.


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 77, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 44884 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 75):
L/N 96 - G-TUIC – 6/xx/2013 – BY #3

13 June

Quoting United787 (Reply 75):
L/N 102 – LN-BKA - 6/27/2013 - DY #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight

27 June


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 78, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 44591 times:

In terms of ETS:

Quoting United787 (Reply 75):
L/N 83 - JA818A - 5/14/2013 - NH #18

818 had a routing of HND-FUK-HND today in conjunction with NH restarting their full 787 schedule.

Quoting United787 (Reply 75):
L/N 97 - JA819A - 5/31/2013 - NH #19

819 had not flown today



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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 79, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 44576 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 75):
L/N 85 - B–2732 - x/xx/2013 - HU #4

This one should read B-2724 not B-2732
A


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 80, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 44606 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 66):
The flight path has been changed, it's PAE-MWH now. Likely some crew training indeed.

And here is the delivery flight to CAN of LN34:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...3/history/20130601/1300Z/KPAE/ZGGG



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 81, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 44103 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 78):
819 had not flown today

Hmm, delivery flight here:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20130601/0100Z/KPAE/RJTT



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 82, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 43526 times:

Here's my picture of LOT6, This is ZA272 (LN 86, SP-LRC) flying directly over my house in Long Island on its way to JFK as LOT inaugurated WAW-JFK service on the 787 and returned to revenue service at teh same time. The plane was about 5-10 minutes from landing.

LOT Polish Airlines on final to JFK on June 1, 2013



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User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 891 posts, RR: 1
Reply 83, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 43075 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 75):
2013 DELIVERIES TO DATE
L/N 54 - VT-ANJ – 3/28/2013 - AI #6

I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but how did AI take delivery on 3/28? That was about a month before the battery fix was approved.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 84, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 42716 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 81):
Hmm, delivery flight here:

Maybe that was just it.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 85, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 42580 times:

LN102 DY #1 first engine run scheduled today.

http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/341177544059547651



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 86, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42106 times:

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 83):
I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but how did AI take delivery on 3/28? That was about a month before the battery fix was approved.

The physical delivery was actually in January, but the contractual was first in March. Hence Boeing had to book it as a March delivery as it was then they got the cash


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 87, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42135 times:

ANA ZA120 (101) out for a B-2 and JAL ZA185 (98) scheduled for a C-1:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE120

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...5/history/20130602/1730Z/KPAE/KMWH


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 88, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 42014 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 82):

Great picture.

Here are a couple others. The first 787-9!:






source:
http://www.boeingblogs.com/randy/archives/2013/06/cool_change.html

tortugamon


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2770 posts, RR: 2
Reply 89, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 41886 times:

Wow! That is gonna be one gorgeous bird. Best looking modern twin for sure, in my opinion.  Wow!


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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 90, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 41871 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 88):

Looks great! Cat wait to see it when rolled out.



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 91, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 41903 times:

TUI ZA319 (96) scheduled for s B-2:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE319


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 92, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 41876 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 88):
The first 787-9!:

Such a shame they don't share high-res pictures.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 93, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 41918 times:

A view from the front:



Looks like they are going to go with the Max livery. I am not a huge fan but I like the change.


Some general observations: I cannot tell how close together the sections. It looks a little longer than I had expected. We cannot yet tell weather there will be a missing window in front of the second door as has been speculated. I wish these pictures were HD so could zoom in a little but it is better than nothing.

Quoting KPDX (Reply 89):
Wow! That is gonna be one gorgeous bird. Best looking modern twin for sure, in my opinion.

 
I agree that the proportions will make this version the most pleasing 787 to the eye.


tortugamon


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 94, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 41704 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 92):
Such a shame they don't share high-res pictures.

Agreed. Love that about Airbus.

NYC777, I found your list of hypothetical June deliveries:

Aeromexico (ILFC)* - 1
Air India - 1
ANA - 2
British Airways* - 2
China Southern - 1
Hainan Airlines* - 2
LOT Polish - 1
Japan Airlines - 1
Norwegian (ILFC)* - 1
Qatar Airways - 1
Thomson Airways - 1

Great list, I hope you are largely accurate. I think they could also deliver another Air India (LN 90: After Paris), Qatar (LN 103), JAL (LN 105) and TUI (106) but I am not sure about any LOT birds going out. I thought they were being pushed back to August? So I thought the total for June would be closer to 17. I thought the extra frames would go to the carriers mentioned because each of them have been complaining about not getting the aircraft or seem anxious to take delivery when the testing is complete (vs the Chinese birds and LOT). I think your prediction on the Second British Airways bird might be the most aggressive but I share your optimism.

BTW, great blog

tortugamon


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 95, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 41353 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 92):
Such a shame they don't share high-res pictures.

Actually they do if you have media access. I am able to access the one high res pick of the 787-9 due to my blog.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 96, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 41318 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 94):
but I am not sure about any LOT birds going out

They confirmed that they should receive one more by the end of June. The fifth should be in August.



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User currently onlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 573 posts, RR: 1
Reply 97, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 41196 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 94):


Six new carriers within 6 weeks would be nice to see! Hopefully June will be one busy month!

Assuming everything comes together as expected, will the first -9 be rolling off the line after the same length of time as the -8's currently are or are they planning to take it slower for the first few since they have the Surge line to build them without interrupting the -8's?



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 98, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 41100 times:

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 97):
will the first -9 be rolling off the line after the same length of time as the -8's

NYC777 is predicting roll out around the 3rd or 4th week of July and I see no reason to doubt that. So, about a week or two longer than the normal standard Everett turn around but certainly quicker than the first 787-8!

Six new carriers in six weeks would be quite an accomplishment.

tortugamon


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 99, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 40999 times:

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 97):
Assuming everything comes together as expected, will the first -9 be rolling off the line after the same length of time as the -8's currently are or are they planning to take it slower for the first few since they have the Surge line to build them without interrupting the -8's?

Not only do they have to put it together, it will also be modified with equipment for flight test which will also be tested to some extent prior to rollout, so don't expect to see it until later this summer.


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 100, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 40919 times:

Next up...

Deliveries:
> VT-ANM (Air India #7) (@ Charleston)
> JA-834J (Japan Airlines #9)
> B-2722 (Hainan Airlines #1) (@ Charleston)

First Flights:
> SP-LRD (LOT Polish #4)
> ??-??? (Norwegian/ILFC #1)
> VT-ANO (Air India #9) (@ Charleston)
> G-ZBJA (British Airways #1)
> JA-832J (Japan Airlines #10)

FAL Rollout:
> JA-823A (All Nippon Airlines #23)
> G-ZBJD (British Airways #4)
> CC-BBD (LAN Airlines #5) (@ Charleston)

Cheers
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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 101, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 40804 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 100):
??-??? (Norwegian/ILFC #1)

Most likely registration will be EI-LNA


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 102, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 40959 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 95):
Actually they do if you have media access. I am able to access the one high res pick of the 787-9 due to my blog.

Excellent, thank you!



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 103, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 40457 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 100):
First Flights:
> SP-LRD (LOT Polish #4)
> ??-??? (Norwegian/ILFC #1)
> VT-ANO (Air India #9) (@ Charleston)
> G-ZBJA (British Airways #1)
> JA-832J (Japan Airlines #10)

Interesting that Charleston took out B-2734 for its first flight today instead of VT-ANO. Looks like VT-ANM and ANN are all AI is getting in the next couple of weeks and Charleston is moving on. Why do you have Everett skipping A7-BCE (QR) in favor or BA and JAL birds? I would think they would be anxious to get their hands on what they can get.

tortugamon


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 104, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 39945 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 103):
Interesting that Charleston took out B-2734 for its first flight today instead of VT-ANO. Looks like VT-ANM and ANN are all AI is getting in the next couple of weeks and Charleston is moving on

Not so surprising as Air India's latest delivery schedule looks something like this:
- VT-ANM: late May/early June
- VT-ANN: late June
- VT-ANO: July

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 103):
Why do you have Everett skipping A7-BCE (QR) in favor or BA and JAL birds? I would think they would be anxious to get their hands on what they can get.

I agree but QTR movement at Everett has slowed down recently with JA-820A and G-TUIC taking over A7-BCD in flight testing sequence. I can't explain it. Perhaps has to do with WIFI installation again? Speculation. But you're definitely onto something. QTR wants its birds yet A7-BCD moved down sequence and seems that A7-BCE is being skipped by JA-832J, JA-821A and G-ZBJA (also worth noting that G-TUID seems to have skipped its turn as well). time will tell what's happened there.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 105, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 39957 times:

Jetstar's 787 aircraft will feature 355 seats (21 business in 2-3-2 and 314 economy in 3-3-3).

More here:
http://www.ausbt.com.au/jetstar-deta...g-335-seats-usb-power-touchscreens



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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 106, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 39799 times:

More detail on Qantas/Jetstar 787s...
- Registration will be VH-VKA
- Seating will be 335 with 21 business class seats (2+3+2) and 314 economy (3+3+3)
- Nov 2013 domestic flying (for crew training) on SYD/MEL-CNS/OOL
- Dec 2013 international flying (replacing A330s) on SIN routes + SYD/MEL-HNL/HKT

http://australianaviation.com.au/201...rst-jetstar-787-in-final-assembly/


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2731 posts, RR: 2
Reply 107, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 39292 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 103):
Interesting that Charleston took out B-2734 for its first flight today instead of VT-ANO.

Did this one actually do a B1 yesterday?


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 108, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 39143 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 104):
I agree but QTR movement at Everett has slowed down recently with JA-820A and G-TUIC taking over A7-BCD in flight testing sequence. I can't explain it. Perhaps has to do with WIFI installation again? Speculation.

Alternatively, if BCD is the static display bird at Paris, it's probably done flying until after the airshow.

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 104):
QTR wants its birds yet A7-BCD moved down sequence and seems that A7-BCE is being skipped by JA-832J, JA-821A and G-ZBJA (also worth noting that G-TUID seems to have skipped its turn as well). time will tell what's happened there.

There's a difference between "wanting" your airplanes and being able to integrate them into the fleet. If BCD goes to Paris I can see QTR taking both of them the last week in June/first week in July. I think TUI may have the same issue, having just taken two with a third soon to deliver getting the fourth one a week or so later might be an issue -- before the grounding they were looking at a month between the third and fourth.


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 109, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 38935 times:

LOT ZA273 (87) scheduled for a B-1 this afternoon:


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE273


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 110, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 38802 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 107):
Did this one actually do a B1 yesterday?

no



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 111, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 38835 times:

A China Southern Dreaminer set up for a B-1 today out of Charleston:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE384



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2731 posts, RR: 2
Reply 112, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 38663 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 111):
A China Southern Dreaminer set up for a B-1 today out of Charleston:http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE384

Is there a way to tell which airplane that is from Flightaware?


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 113, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 38512 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 112):
Is there a way to tell which airplane that is from Flightaware?

Flight number = variable number i.e. BOE384 is the same as ZA384.



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2731 posts, RR: 2
Reply 114, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 38241 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 113):
Flight number = variable number i.e. BOE384 is the same as ZA384.

Got it, thanks!


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 115, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 37759 times:

Quote:
A China Southern Dreaminer set up for a B-1 today out of Charleston

Finally. Two CHS aircraft were painted after the grounding and then there was a silence on the paint front.



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User currently offlinenclmedic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 37751 times:

And here's Thomson's new bird in CWL....


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 117, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 37189 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 108):
Alternatively, if BCD is the static display bird at Paris, it's probably done flying until after the airshow.

According to the Paris Airshow website, Qatar (not Boeing) will have a 787 on static display which implies a Qatar owned aircraft (whereas the other 787 on display at Paris will be a Boeing owned aircraft - VT-ANN pre-delivery). Qatar could send a freshly delivered BCD on its way home from Everett or another frame from DOH.

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User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9644 posts, RR: 68
Reply 118, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 36875 times:
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SP-LRD did an abbreviated B1 flight this evening:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17594616@N00/8954969859/


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 119, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 36576 times:

LN112 (Norwegian) out of the paint shop:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6322.htm



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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1896 posts, RR: 5
Reply 120, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 36374 times:

SP-LRD and -LRE are scheduled for delivery to Lot Polish Airlines on 20th of July and 20th of August, respectively.


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User currently offlineual747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 35735 times:

Can't see recent posts in this thread. Anyone else?

UAL747-600


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31124 posts, RR: 85
Reply 122, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 35753 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 105):
Jetstar's 787 aircraft will feature 355 seats (21 business in 2-3-2 and 314 economy in 3-3-3).

Which is about two dozen more than their original plan, which I am guessing was 2+4+2 in Economy.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 123, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 35245 times:

Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 121):
Can't see recent posts in this thread. Anyone else?

I don't know why but you have to click on "Check for new relies" several times to get the newer posts. A.net squawk.



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2770 posts, RR: 2
Reply 124, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 35202 times:

Does anyone know when the British Airways 787-8 first flight will be? Thanks.  


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 125, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 34957 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 124):
Does anyone know when the British Airways 787-8 first flight will be? Thanks.

It should be soon, engine runs were done on them already so I would be surprised if they were done by end of next week at the latest.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 126, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 34887 times:

Quote:
Jetstar's 787 aircraft will feature 355 seats (21 business in 2-3-2 and 314 economy in 3-3-3).
Quote:
Which is about two dozen more than their original plan, which I am guessing was 2+4+2 in Economy.

Sorry Stitch, I wrote 355 but it should be 335 total.

> 21 business in 2-3-2
> 314 economy in 3-3-3

Total: 335



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 127, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 35181 times:

Quote:
It should be soon, engine runs were done on them already so I would be surprised if they were done by end of next week at the latest.

And last month, BA stated to take delivery of their first 787 in June.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31124 posts, RR: 85
Reply 128, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 35138 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 126):
Sorry Stitch, I wrote 355 but it should be 335 total.

I should have picked that up myself.   


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 129, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 34353 times:

LN20 in the EMC, still without engines:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8965758566/



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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1896 posts, RR: 5
Reply 130, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 34573 times:

Got a word that delivery of SP-LRD to LO is being moved up from second half of July to end of June. Which is all good...


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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 131, posted (1 year 4 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 34511 times:

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 130):
Got a word that delivery of SP-LRD to LO is being moved up from second half of July to end of June. Which is all good...

That's more like it! Its already had its B1 so should in theory be ready with 3rd or 4th week of June.

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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 132, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 33878 times:

Interesting subtle updates in Boeing's latest order/delivery sheet:

1) Royal Brunei Airlines' 5 788 appear (previously accounted in Unidentified Customers)
2) Singapore Airlines' coverts 10 of 20 789s to 788s (had been speculated, now confirmed)

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...pageid=m25065&RequestTimeout=20000

Nothing official yet on Xiamen Airlines' order for 6 (this should happen soon with CAAC approval in hand) or Air Berlin's conversion from 789s to 788s.

Cheers
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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 133, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 33702 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 132):
Interesting subtle updates in Boeing's latest order/delivery sheet:

Only other change appears to be Jet Airways' conversion of 10 788s to 789s.


User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1645 posts, RR: 1
Reply 134, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 33488 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 132):
Nothing official yet on Xiamen Airlines' order for 6 (this should happen soon with CAAC approval in hand) or Air Berlin's conversion from 789s to 788s.

Also wonder when AC's partial conversion to -9s will become official.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 135, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 33384 times:

BA G-ZBJB scheduled for a B1 flight tomorrow.

http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/342879526298214400



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 136, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 32839 times:

ZA465 doing a C-1 flight today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE465



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User currently offlineroygyang From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32554 times:

ZA431 B-2722 Line 76, another B flight out of Charleston tonight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE431


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 138, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 32256 times:

Quoting roygyang (Reply 137):
ZA431 B-2722 Line 76, another B flight out of Charleston tonight.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE431

Timed out but maybe tomorrow. I think it's a customer flight.



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2770 posts, RR: 2
Reply 139, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 31959 times:

Not sure where else to put this, but someone caught the Air India 787-8 doing some practice for the Paris Airshow.  

Looks like Moses Lake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgnvUA18jtg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 140, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 31790 times:

A peak inside the surge line:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8982223685/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 141, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 31723 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 136):
ZA465 doing a C-1 flight today:

That's quick, after only 1 test flight.

Picture here:
http://paineairport.com/kpae6337.htm



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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 142, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 31370 times:

B-2733 (LN 95 / ZA 384) flying to Texas to get painted (only 3 days after first flight, a record for Charleston).
This could become China Southern's #2 depending on activity at Everett.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE384

Cheers
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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 143, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 31119 times:

So in CHS we have:

> LN72 painted
> LN76 painted after the grounding
> LN81 painted after the grounding
> LN85 unpainted
> LN91 unpainted
> LN95 being painted

I wonder why they skipped LN85 and LN91.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 144, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 30674 times:

ZA451 a 787 for British Airways is on its B-1 flight right now:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE451



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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 145, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 30411 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 143):
I wonder why they skipped LN85 and LN91.

It has to do with China Southern and the overall delivery schedule. CSN is asking for its second frame ASAP. With the flightline at Everett clogged right now with other customers (you'll notice that all Everett flightline slots are currently taken other than 108 which should go to A7-BCE or JA-821A), it made sense/was easier for them to rush one of the ready to fly frames at Charleston.

Also LN 85 belongs to Hainan. Hainan will have their hands full over the next few weeks taking delivery of LN 76 and 81 in Charleston and LN 73 in Everett. While LN 91 belongs to Air India who are also looking at delivery of LN 72 and LN 90 before hand. All of that while China Southern is waiting with no ready for delivery frames.

Hainan has stated first delivery towards end of June and Air India has stated LN 91 to be delivered in July. By making LN 95 skip the line, Boeing is looking at possibly squeezing in another June delivery that would have otherwise not made it until July/August and keep China happy!

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 146, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 29906 times:

That makes a lot of sense, thank you.


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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 147, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 29446 times:

LOT ZA273 (87) out for a C-1 later today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130609/1930Z/KPAE/KMWH


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 148, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 28735 times:

BA delivery dates set for 26 and 27 June.


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User currently offlinenomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1881 posts, RR: 0
Reply 149, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 28684 times:

Had somebody claiming that LN22 was about to get sold as a BBJ, and someone else saying that ANA hasn't kicked it loose yet. Can anybody tell me if either or both claims are true?

[Edited 2013-06-10 03:53:04]


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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5620 posts, RR: 6
Reply 150, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 28352 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 145):
CSN is asking for its second frame ASAP. With the flightline at Everett clogged right now with other customers (you'll notice that all Everett flightline slots are currently taken other than 108 which should go to A7-BCE or JA-821A), it made sense/was easier for them to rush one of the ready to fly frames at Charleston.

What needs to be done before ZA382/LN 43 can be delivered? That one flew several test flights before the grounding.


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 151, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 28305 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 150):
What needs to be done before ZA382/LN 43 can be delivered? That one flew several test flights before the grounding.

1) Remove tape/covers/etc from long-term storage
2) Battery Mods
3) New coat of paint (most likely needed given it got initially painted more than 8 months ago)
4) Flight Confirming no issues following Battery Mods
5) Customer Flight(s)

Could probably be done in 30-45 days.

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User currently offlineairsmiles From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 152, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 28485 times:

I'm a bit confused by these variable numbers everyone is quoting. Why do Boeing use another number when they already have c/n's, which I believe are effectively sales booking numbers, and line numbers which I believe are the sequence they come off the production line?

How does the two-letter / three-number code work?

Thanks


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 153, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 28294 times:

Quoting airsmiles (Reply 152):
How does the two-letter / three-number code work?

There's gotta be a topic thread on this somewhere here so I'll keep this brief. They're called tab or block numbers.

Back before computers Boeing used real mylar drawings to build airplanes. Tabs on the drawings let the people building each airplane know which drawing to follow depending on the customer configuration. It started with the 737 (P), 727-200 (Q), 747 (R), 757 (N), 767 (V), 777 (W), 787 (Z). When the 737 NG came along Boeing had used almost all the "P" numbers (PA001 thru PA999) so they used Y. A customer would be assigned a block of airplanes depending on how many Boeing thought they would buy so with the 777 UAL was assigned WA001 thru WA030 (WA001 was a test airplane but it was built to the UAL configuration and they didn't take all 30). Up until the 787 blocks started with 1 or 6 and ended with 0 or 5 -- the 787 uses 0 or 5 and 9 or 4 with some exceptions. When a new model is produced you change the second letter 788 ZA, 789 ZB. With the 737 there are multiple second letters with the same model due to the quantity built.

I hope this wasn't too confusing. With computers some say they are now longer necessary. Flight crews use the numbers for the flight number in most cases.


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 154, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 28271 times:

TUI ZA319 (96) scheduled for a C-1 soon:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE319


User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5620 posts, RR: 6
Reply 155, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 28087 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 151):
Could probably be done in 30-45 days.

Ah, OK. Didn't realize it would need repainting. So LN 95 can probably get done sooner than LN 43 thanks to the backlog at Everett.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 156, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 27907 times:

I believe LN43 has had a paint refresh in FTW just before the grounding.


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User currently offlineairsmiles From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 157, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 27885 times:

Thanks 7BOEING7. That makes perfect sense.

User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2514 posts, RR: 12
Reply 158, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 27760 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 151):
2) Battery Mods

This lead me to this quesion: airframes rolling off the FAL, do they need to go through mod-centre for battery mods, or has the new battery system already been incorporated into the FAL (or even subassembly level)?

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 159, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 27726 times:

The new battery system has been incorporated into the FAL.


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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 160, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 27464 times:

ZA465 QTR (99) out on a C-2:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE465


ZA273 LOT (87) out on a C-1 that didn't make airborne yesterday:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE273


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 161, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 26894 times:

Tewolde Gebremariam (CEO of Ethiopian Airlines) said to take delivery of their 5th 787 (LN39 / ET-AOO) next month.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 162, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 26443 times:

Looks like ZA319 is performing one more ustomer flight today but a short one:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE319



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 163, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 25874 times:

ZA120 looking to go out on a C-2 (?) flight this evening:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE120



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 164, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 25680 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 163):
ZA120 looking to go out on a C-2 (?) flight this evening:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE120

Nope, a C-1. Previous flights were B-1 and B-2. Right now in the middle of the trademark 360 over ONP.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 165, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 25439 times:

ZA242 is winging its way to Le Bourget tonight:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE787



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 166, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 25014 times:

Matt Cawby has again some nice pictures of the surge line:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6356.htm
http://paineairport.com/kpae6357.htm
http://paineairport.com/kpae6358.htm

The last picture clearly shows 4 frames inside the building:

> ZB001 in position 1.
> LN??? in position 2.
> LN115 (Aeromexico) in position 3.
> LN??? roll out from position 4.

The roll out of the frame in position 4 means there will be a line move.



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User currently offlineDan23 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 167, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 24731 times:

The aircraft in position 2 looks to be a 787 that has already been fully painted and rolled back in for some more work.

Edit: According to AllThings787 it is LN122 for AeroMexico in Position 3 and LN115 also for AeroMexico in Position 2

[Edited 2013-06-12 05:04:09 by dan23]

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 168, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 24360 times:

Looks like ZA241 is going up for a customer flight:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE241


Hopefully delivery is right around the corner.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 169, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 24332 times:

ZA576 scheduled for its B-1 flight today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE576

This is Norwegian's first 787 leased from ILFC.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 170, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 24032 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 168):
Looks like ZA241 is going up for a customer flight
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 169):
ZA576 scheduled for its B-1 flight today:

Great news on both accounts. What aircraft are in line for their first flights?: G-ZBJA, A-7BCE (or A-7BCF if Charleston has more availability), JA832J & JA821A? I would think this would be the last week for B-1s for June deliveries. N961AM looks like it is out of the running. Most 787 deliveries in a month looks like it is still very possible.

Quoting Dan23 (Reply 167):
LN115 also for AeroMexico in Position 2

This aircraft rolled out May 12th, could it have been brought back into 40-24 for a battery fix? I do not believe the FAL was putting in the new battery system by then.

tortugamon


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 171, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 23700 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 170):
JA821A

I haven't seen this one for a while, I wonder if it still is inside the paint hangar?



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6411 posts, RR: 3
Reply 172, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 23695 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 170):
What aircraft are in line for their first flights?: G-ZBJA

Had its B-1 about a week ago  First Flight: British Airways 787 (by clickhappy Jun 8 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Where have you been?



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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5620 posts, RR: 6
Reply 173, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 23641 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 172):
Had its B-1 about a week ago

That was G-ZBJB, LN 111. G-ZBJA, LN 108, hasn't flown yet.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12145 posts, RR: 34
Reply 174, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 23612 times:

Quoting Dan23 (Reply 167):
Edit: According to AllThings787 it is LN122 for AeroMexico in Position 3 and LN115 also for AeroMexico in Position 2

That explains it, thanks.

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 170):
This aircraft rolled out May 12th, could it have been brought back into 40-24 for a battery fix? I do not believe the FAL was putting in the new battery system by then.

It is possible, position 2 is empty anyway until ZB001 moves.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3449 posts, RR: 10
Reply 175, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 23574 times:

Aviation Week has this article about the 787 RR package C engines.
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....l/avd_06_12_2013_p01-02-587117.xml

Here is the quote regarding ZA004:
'The aircraft is currently powered by the latest Rolls-Royce Package B standard Trent 1000 engines but in July will be fitted with the first set of upgraded Package C standard engines which will later power the 787-9.'

'The engine is due to be certified mid-year'

'The Package C version is also due to begin powering 787-8s from around June 2014.'

Three points/questions:
1.) This sounds like ZB001 will probably roll out without engines

2.) I do not imagine they will complete first flight with Package B engines so the second set of RR Package C engines will have to arrive in late July/August in advance of first flight.

3.) If the Package C engines will be certified in a few weeks ('mid year') and will be further tested this Summer, I do not understand why it will it take until June 2014 to put them on new 788s. I can see a significant amount of lag for RR to get up to speed at producing the new spec at full rate and I am sure they are being certified for 74klbf and will need to be recertified for 70klbf for the 788 but I still do not understand why it will take a year from certification for a derated engine. For example the GE PiP II is due for certification by mid year and should be delivered on aircraft by year end for 748.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 171):
I haven't seen this one for a while, I wonder if it still is inside the paint hangar?

Could be. That would make sense. Seems like ANA pick up their aircraft pretty quickly after testing is complete so I imagine this would be one of the quicker turnarounds if they want to dedicate the resources.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 172):
Where have you been?

Went on vacation for a week, glad to hear you noticed I was gone  . Not sure why they flew G-ZBJB before ZBJA but as seabosdca noted, -A is looking for its first flight.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 174):
It is possible, position 2 is empty anyway until ZB001 moves.

What is funny is they would have had to move ZA562 (LN122) out before they backed LN 115 into that position. To me that means that whatever the reason is, it was important that it happen at position two and I believe that is where the battery fix is happening. Complete speculation on my part but it just seems odd.

tortugamon


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31124 posts, RR: 85
Reply 176, posted