LH707330 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 592 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3223 times:
Quoting uaeflyer (Thread starter): e.g if EK asked Airbus to change some specifications and LH asked something completely opposite for the same model, what will airbus do in this case.
Whoever's willing to place the order. Same thing with Boeing and the 747-8i. LH wanted the longer version and TC wanted the shorter stretch for DXB-LAX. LH put their money where there mouth was and it became the long one.
LOL! Seriously, both customers are equally important. LH relies mostly on Airbus narrowbodies for its bread and butter European and medium haul network. EK of course is whats keeping the A380 (and thousands of jobs) from going down the drain.
LH has 226 planes out of 290 Airbus planes (77%) of which 76 planes are widebodies
EK has 71/186 total Airbus planes (38%) all of which are widebodies
Emirates does not force Airbus or Boeing to change their design. They work with them in order to get a more optimum design that suits their requirements. So favoring is not part of the game.
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8739 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2582 times:
Quoting bill142 (Reply 2): LH buys Airbus because the German government forces them to and EK takes Airbus because Airbus give them free planes.
LOL, what did you smoke? The German government ha sno means to "force" a company to do anything. it wuld be simply against the law. The board of directors has to report to the supervisory board to approva and aircraft order. The supervisory board does that based on the business case the managing board presents.
Even Air France, based in a country where the government does interfere with business decisions, buys Boeing and actually has, with the B777 a long range jet in their fleet while LH decided to go for the 346 instead.
QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1729 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2498 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4): LOL, what did you smoke? The German government ha sno means to "force" a company to do anything. it wuld be simply against the law. The board of directors has to report to the supervisory board to approva and aircraft order. The supervisory board does that based on the business case the managing board presents.
hahaha I think you missed the last word at the end of his post:
airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 7871 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2223 times:
Neither. Airbus (and Boeing), want to sell a lot of airplanes so they create products that a lot of customers want, not just customer A or customer B. They will gladly tell LH or EK to go pound sand if they feel that a plane will sell more if everyone else likes it. See 747-8 and EK for an example.
Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1702 times:
Both airlines stand for many others, with very different requirements. I assume Airbus would create two versions, one fitting the LH needs since they fit many other airlines needs too, and one for EK. EK needs more range, LH needs more floor space, so similar to A332/A333 each will get what he pays for.