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When Did The Final US Based 747 Go To Brazil?  
User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2968 posts, RR: 13
Posted (1 year 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4170 times:
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Back in ancient times, Pan American regularly flew the 747 to Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. I believe that Eastern and Braniff did too. I vaguely recall seeing United 747's too. When did we (America) stop? And from where in the USA did they depart from? JFK, Miami and ?

Since AA never had more than a few 747's, and for a short time, Delta too, what equipment did they open the market with?

I recall VARIG went way into the 1990's (and were the last 747's I think in general) but then they all just seemed to all go to 3 holes, 767's then 777's.


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User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20784 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4132 times:

Looks like mid-97 from this previous thread:

When And From Where Did UA Fly 747's To Brazil? (by VC10er Feb 28 2011 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlinecarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2975 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

To nit-pick, Atlas Air probably continues fly scheduled or non-scheduled 747Fs into Brazil.
Perhaps they even sent one of their pax 744s on a charter to Brazil.

I am sure you mean regularly scheduled passenger flights though.
Wasn't there a rumor that DL would send one of their 744s from ATL to GRU?


User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6516 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

Delta has been seeking permission from the Brazel authorities for a number of years to be able to fly the 747 there
So far wih no success


User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6516 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Delta has been seeking permission from the Brazel authorities for a number of years to be able to fly the 747 there
So far without success


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25860 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2547 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
I believe that Eastern and Braniff did too.

I don't think Eastern had rights to Brazil during their brief period of 747 operations (leased from Pan Am).


User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 1988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
Back in ancient times, Pan American regularly flew the 747 to Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo.

When Pan Am went bust in December 1991, one of their last 747 had to be ferried from Sao Paulo to JFK. The story was told and published in Airways by its captain, John A Marshall.



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User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4389 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 6):

When Pan Am went bust in December 1991, one of their last 747 had to be ferried from Sao Paulo to JFK. The story was told and published in Airways by its captain, John A Marshall.

I remember that sad article and how it really captured the mood of the crew on that flight.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25860 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
When did we (America) stop? And from where in the USA did they depart from? JFK, Miami and ?

And LAX. At one point in the early 90's 5 carriers were operating nonstop LAX-GRU (Varig, VASP, UA, JL, KE). I think UA was the first to drop the route. In the October 1996 OAG the other 4 were all still operating.

By the way, you asked almost the same questions in the 2011 thread mentioned in Reply 1.


User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 1988 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2069 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
I don't think Eastern had rights to Brazil during their brief period of 747 operations (leased from Pan Am).

I believe EA entered the South American market when they acquired Braniff network, meaning it was a decade after the 747 lease.

Quoting VC10er (Thread starter):
Since AA never had more than a few 747's, and for a short time, Delta too, what equipment did they open the market with?

American kept their 747 for a decade in passenger service while DL kept theirs for about half that time. I believe American used MD-11 and 767

Quoting brilondon (Reply 7):
I remember that sad article and how it really captured the mood of the crew on that flight.

Yes. They were in fact the last to arrive back home at 2 AM on December 5th.



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