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FRA Worst Airport For Delays And Cancellations  
User currently offlineGonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1995 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

According to a research carried out by a service provider which helps passengers to claim monetary compensation for flight delays and cancellations, passengers are more likely to suffer delays and cancellations at Frankfurt airport than at any other airport in the World.

Tokyo is the world's most on-time airport with 92 per cent of flights operating with no more than a 15 minute delay, followed by Munich (90 per cent) and Seattle (87 per cent).

I'm a little surprised by this, since LH seems to be a good performer in the field of delays/cancellations, and FRA is the main hub of LH. What is causing all this delays and cancellations at FRA ??

( Source :

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...ber-one-airport-for-delays-and-can )

Rgds.
G.


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User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

Doesn't sound like a very reliable way of survey sampling, using an app to encourage people to claim compensation. This indicates that LGW and MAN were ahead of LHR in delays. Maybe pax 'types' at charter/locost airports are more likely to make a claim than those that use LHR?

Also it seems biased towards German airports with FRA and DUS high on the list. Maybe travellers from there were 'promped' to make claims more than other airports.


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

Maybe also they were under impression of a lot of cancellations in FRA due to quite a few different kind of strikes within the last year there...

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5739 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):

I'm a little surprised by this, since LH seems to be a good performer in the field of delays/cancellations, and FRA is the main hub of LH. What is causing all this delays and cancellations at FRA ??

These two paragraphs probably offer the explanation.

The research was carried out by Refund.me, a service provider which helps passengers claim their right to monetary compensation for flight delays, cancellations, diversions and missed connections.

Refund.me revealed the list of airports after analysing data from users of its online widget and mobile app who had suffered the most inconveniences eligible for compensation.>


It just means that THEIR customers who are probably for some reason mostly from Germany suffer from delays at... surprise, surprise German airports. Frankly I would not trust one bit these "researches" because the methodology is always very dubious and primary goal is for a travel-related business to get its name into the news and get a free advertisement
There has been a similar "research" carried out by a local online ticket agency which "revealed" that tickets from PRG are the 4th most expensive in Europe in terms of price per 1km of flight (whatever relevance that has).
The article is in Czech but if you simply look at the list http://www.zkracovatko.cz/DdHt5r you will see they are comparing apples and oranges. Unfortunately even journalists in the "serious" media here are so clueless when it comes to aviation and so sensationalist at the same time that they took it at a face value. This botched "research" which was a mere PR release in disguise has been presented as a rock solid fact with bombastic headlines in most local news outlets.

[Edited 2013-05-30 06:16:40]

User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9103 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2558 times:
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I guess these poor numbers are not quite good. Well, there have been many, MANY cancellations due so the strikes, which of course ruins the statistics.

FRA is by far not the best airport, but I wouldn't say it is the worst.

wilco737
  



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User currently offlineGonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1995 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 1):
Doesn't sound like a very reliable way of survey
Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 3):
It just means that THEIR customers who are probably for some reason mostly from Germany suffer from delays at... surprise, surprise German airports.

I agree the method and the hidden interest of the researcher are an important factor, but if you have good performance those factors should be less important.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):
I guess these poor numbers are not quite good. Well, there have been many, MANY cancellations due so the strikes, which of course ruins the statistics.

FRA is by far not the best airport, but I wouldn't say it is the worst.

Probably this is the most realistic analysis, some sort of point of balance between the infamous statistics and the reality.

Rgds.
G.



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User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 4):
I guess these poor numbers are not quite good. Well, there have been many, MANY cancellations due so the strikes, which of course ruins the statistics.

FRA is by far not the best airport, but I wouldn't say it is the worst.

Don't worry, I find FRA very entertaining and fun to connect in! 

Cheers.



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9103 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2233 times:
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Quoting CamiloA380 (Reply 6):
Don't worry, I find FRA very entertaining and fun to connect in! 

That is a good way to express it 

I am flying quite often out of FRA and we usually are pretty much on time. I don't have much delay. Couple of minutes sometimes, but my personal statistic is not representative for the whole airport.

wilco737
  



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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3692 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

I once made it from Thai 747 via immigration to baggage claim and the ICE train station in 25 minutes. I was astonished to see how long you walk. Transferring is certainly not better.

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