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Australian Aviation Thread # 74  
User currently offlineQF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 689 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 25319 times:

G'day and welcome to the Australian Aviation Thread # 74. In the previous thread, the following points were discussed/raised:

* Emirates expresses concern at Perth Airport's lackluster airport infrastructure
* Qantas A330 operations
* Brisbane and Perth Airports - birds eye view
* Rydges Sydney Airport Hotel opens, directly opposite the International Terminal
* Air Niugini leases an Icelandair 757 (which will be operated to Brisbane)
* QantasLink 717s
* Qantas and Emirates agreement
* Rumours about Qantas leasing Emirates aircraft
* Jetstar announces it will take delivery of its first 787 in September
* Qantas 747 operations
* Melbourne Airport masterplan released
* Clive Palmer's new jet revealed with a rather 'Aussie' livery
* Virgin Australia's 737-700s
* Slow progress on construction work at Perth Airport
* Multiple flight diversions to Brisbane & Melbourne Airports due three consecutive days of fog in SYD
* Qantas announces an upgrade of its Perth terminal and facilities
* Possible walk-out by contracted security staff at Perth Airport
* First details on rego for first batch of JQ 787s and Qantas Freight 747-400ERF
* Philippine Airlines returns to Brisbane after a 2 year hiatus
* Turkish Airlines announces further plans regarding their intentions to fly to Sydney in 2014

Australian Aviation Thread # 73

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User currently offlineQF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 689 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 25374 times:

QantasLink announces further flight increases from Brisbane (no surprises here!)

Quote:
QantasLink upgrades and improves services on Queensland routes

QantasLink today announced it will deploy larger aircraft and put on additional services on key routes in Queensland from 1 July, meeting the strong demand from Queensland communities and corporate customers.

The announcement includes:

Six additional return flights between Roma and Brisbane per week, increasing the number of seats on this route by 372 seats to 3174 seats.

Key services between Bundaberg and Brisbane upgraded to the faster, larger Q400 74 seat aircraft, which will add 144 seats per week.

An extra return flight between Longreach and Brisbane on Thursday’s, serviced by a Q300 50 seat aircraft, adding 100 seats per week.


QantasLink Executive Manager John Gissing said he was delighted QantasLink is increasing capacity and deploying larger aircraft in Bundaberg, Longreach and Roma.

Continues...

Source

And while on the regional carrier front, some news from Skytrans...

Quote:
THE boss of regional airline Skytrans, which is cutting about 20 staff and has sold three aircraft, remains committed to Cairns as its headquarters and to the 180 staff in the city.

Managing director Simon Wild told The Cairns Post that most of the cutbacks involved 70 staff in Brisbane.

He said the airline was looking for new business as mining charters and State Government work dropped.

The airline has sold three Dash 8 aircraft surplus to its needs for $15 million and is looking to cut about six staff in Cairns and 14 in Brisbane, mainly pilots and flight crews.

Continues...

Source


User currently offlinevhebb From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 25009 times:

Jetstar has announced details of the B787:

335 seats 21 biz and 314 economy with Panasonic eX2 in seat inflight entertainment system:

http://www.ausbt.com.au/jetstar-deta...g-335-seats-usb-power-touchscreens

First flights will be in November, all A330s replaced by 2015:

http://www.ausbt.com.au/jetstar-to-b...gin-boeing-787-flights-in-november

Thanks


User currently offlineallrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2140 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 24952 times:

Quoting vhebb (Reply 2):
Jetstar has announced details of the B787:

335 seats 21 biz and 314 economy with Panasonic eX2 in seat inflight entertainment system:

I'm personally happy with a 3x3x3 economy configuration. My small family will get to sit together and I get the window instead of being split up or having to sit in the middle row as is currently the case in the A330. Seatback entertainment is also good. Pity no lie flat business seats as they would be nice for the overnight Japan return flights.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4973 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 24757 times:

Quoting vhebb (Reply 2):
Jetstar has announced details of the B787:

335 seats 21 biz and 314 economy with Panasonic eX2 in seat inflight entertainment system:

http://australianaviation.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/IMG_1181.jpg

Due To Be Delivered September 2013

EK8413



Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 24425 times:

Quoting vhebb (Reply 2):
335 seats 21 biz and 314 economy

That is a tight configuration. Compare it to Norwegian, which is another low cost carrier, they have 32 premium economy seats (also in 2-3-2) config, but only 259 Y seats, and people commented on that being tight. So, with a slightly larger premium cabin (1 and a half rows more), they have more than 50 less Y-class seats.

Thompson, another tight configuration airline, has 291 total seats as well. They have more premium seats (49), but those are in 2-3-2 with only 38 inches in pitch, so I'd expect Jetstar premium to be a bit spacier.

So, overall, Jetstar has 44 seats more than the other 2 low-cost airlines, with really just a marginally smaller premium cabin (at least that of Norwegian).

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 24422 times:

Edit function doesn't seem to be working.

Just saw that JQ premium class will have a seat pitch of 38" (like Thompson), while Norwegian has seat pitch of 46" in premium, so that might explain most of the seat count increase, but still, going to be cramped!

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlinesydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3122 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 24083 times:

http://www.businessday.com.au/busine...ent-flyer-fall-20130605-2npb3.html

An interesting article quoting Tim Clark on the impact of the EK/QF alliance on EK. Apparently there has been a slowing in growth of EK's loyalty scheme in Australia which is the main casualty of the QF alliance. But apart from that he's happy.


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 24061 times:

Quoting sydscott (Reply 9):

From that article, it is interesting to note that Clark blames no A380 service to PER on increasing competition from QR and SQ, and not on the lacking infrastructure! Perhaps a sign that EK will not bring the A380 immediately even if infrastructure was up to date (and perhaps the reason PER has delayed it).

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlinesydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3122 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 23911 times:

http://www.businessday.com.au/busine...ent-flyer-fall-20130605-2npb3.html

I found this to be an interesting article today especially in relation to a slowdown in growth at Emirates awards scheme which they attribute to the Qantas relationship.


User currently offlineshnoob940 From Australia, joined Sep 2008, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 23768 times:

Does anyone know why VH-FVX operating VA642 to Canberra left gate 31 in Sydney and returned shortly afterwards today? The aircraft sat for two hours with engineers surrounding it.

gibbo



A319 A320 A321 A332 A333 A343 A388 733 734 735 737 738 739 743 744 762 763 773 788 E170 E190 Q400
User currently offlineA36001 From Australia, joined Sep 2012, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 23596 times:

Really really looking forward to seeing the 787 in Australia. IMHO the Qantas livery on the 787 is gonna ROCK!! That and BA will be mighty fine looking aircraft.  

User currently offlinexiaotung From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 23050 times:

Now this is really interesting. Who bought 5% of VA yesterday? If it was EY they didn't waste any time. If it was SQ or NZ, a takeover bid would be imminent.

http://www.4-traders.com/VIRGIN-AUST...Heavily-Traded-in-Sydney-17003988/


User currently offlineallrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2140 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22781 times:

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 14):
Who bought 5% of VA yesterday?

According to the Sydney Morning Herald it was NZ.

Quote:
Air New Zealand is increasing its stake in Virgin Australia, but says it has no intention of taking control of the airline.

Air New Zealand intends to take a further three per cent interest in Virgin Australia, raising its ownership level to 22.99 per cent.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4973 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22767 times:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/8953979236_185095048d_b.jpg
Jetstar 787 by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3725/8954337978_84c892f5af_b.jpg
Boeing Everett factory tour by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr

And it will get their normal livery.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8419/8755920577_a1826b2744_b.jpg
Jetstar & Boeing 787 event by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr

EK8413

[Edited 2013-06-05 17:22:07]


Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25407 posts, RR: 86
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22730 times:
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Quoting allrite (Reply 15):
According to the Sydney Morning Herald it was NZ.

Quote:
Air New Zealand is increasing its stake in Virgin Australia, but says it has no intention of taking control of the airline.

And Air NZ may go to 26%:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10888772

"Air New Zealand has agreed to lift its holding in Virgin Australia to about 23 percent from 19.99 percent in a series of off-market transactions and indicated it may seek to hold as much as 26 percent."

At that point, Air NZ and Singapore would own about 46%. I suggested they should jointly take control (despite the spectre of Ansett) and screw it, just do it.

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 22415 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 4):

Great photos -- can't wait!

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 7):

Interesting comparison. Makes me wonder whether DY has been a bit optimistic with their 259 seat configuration, given that JQ has a very good idea for how to make the LCC model work on mid-long haul. Time will tell...


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4973 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 22317 times:

Etihad CEO James Hogan has provided some details about their first A380 and B787 plans. EY will take delivery of their first A380 and B787 aircraft in late 2014.

- A380 will feature a three-class cabin configuration
- B787 will be in two configurations with two and three classes
- A380 is intended to operate to LHR, JFK, SYD & MEL
- B787 routes will be announced later

Source: http://centreforaviation.com/news/ia...te-2014-235281

Sydney and Melbourne was expected as A380 destinations  

EK8413



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User currently offlineSYDSpotter From Australia, joined Oct 2012, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 22265 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 15):
At that point, Air NZ and Singapore would own about 46%. I suggested they should jointly take control (despite the spectre of Ansett) and screw it, just do it.

What are the rules surrounding foreign ownership limits on VA? I know VA did a bit of a corporate restructure to alleviate some of the foreign ownership limits, but surely NZ and SQ wouldn't be allowed to own 100% of VA ?  



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25407 posts, RR: 86
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22206 times:
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Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 18):
What are the rules surrounding foreign ownership limits on VA? I know VA did a bit of a corporate restructure to alleviate some of the foreign ownership limits, but surely NZ and SQ wouldn't be allowed to own 100% of VA ?  

I doubt they would need to own 100% and the separate foreign owners already own more than 50% - Air NZ 23%, Singapore 19% and Etihad 10% plus the rump Branson/Virgin holding - 12%? SMH says 22% but I thought it had gone down with the SQ buy.

I disagree with one or two of the conclusions in this article - I don't think it is entirely a defensive move by Air NZ - but it suggests some form of alliance rather than a take-over. Well, maybe:

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/...ion/dont-expect-tussle-over-virgin

It would be easy to see the movements on the Virgin Australia register as presaging an eventual contest for control between Singapore Airlines and Air NZ. While that can’t be completely ruled out it isn’t, however, the most likely rationale for Air NZ’s move. Its actions appear more defensive than offensive.

While Singapore might well like to control Virgin Australia, which has essentially inherited Ansett’s share of the Australian market, Air NZ clearly wants a major seat at the table to protect its own interest in maintaining access to the Australian market.

The lack of significant competing interests between Singapore Airlines and Air NZ would suggest, once they felt they had protected their own strategic interests in having a level of influence over Virgin to support their alliances, that they were more likely to co-operate than engage in a potentially destructive contest for control.

A tripartite alliance between Singapore Airlines, Air NZ and Virgin Australia – anchored in the joint interests in Virgin Australia, would seem to make some sense, particularly given the recent Qantas/Emirates alliance.


Given the above, it's Interesting that Etihad today suggested it doesn't want to increase its holding at this time.

mariner

[Edited 2013-06-06 03:21:52]


aeternum nauta
User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5717 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22203 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 19):
Interesting that Etihad today suggested it doesn't want to increase its holding

To be honest, I think that it's become clear over the past 12 months that Etihad is the awkward third wheel in this relationship. In the longterm I could quite easily see that particular partnership be quietly dismantled.



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25407 posts, RR: 86
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22184 times:
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Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 20):
To be honest, I think that it's become clear over the past 12 months that Etihad is the awkward third wheel in this relationship. In the longterm I could quite easily see that particular partnership be quietly dismantled.

Mayhap. CEO Hogan suggested today it was because they saw more immediate potential return in their Jet Airways holding - which is a wee bit of a change of tune from him.

It's in The Australian but it's subscription, so I haven't linked.

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5717 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22181 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 21):
CEO Hogan suggested today it was because they saw more immediate potential return in their Jet Airways holding - which is a wee bit of a change of tune from him.

I don't doubt you, and on the short term I'm sure that EY are still committed but I was thinking more about the 2020 timeframe



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25407 posts, RR: 86
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22164 times:
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Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 22):
I don't doubt you, and on the short term I'm sure that EY are still committed but I was thinking more about the 2020 timeframe

That may be about right.

Etihad went on a bit of a buying spree - holdings in five airlines? I suspect they are starting to focus now and the priorities may have shifted, with Jet Airways (24%?) as the leader of the pack.

mariner

[Edited 2013-06-06 03:32:23]


aeternum nauta
User currently offlinexiaotung From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22154 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 21):
Mayhap. CEO Hogan suggested today it was because they saw more immediate potential return in their Jet Airways holding - which is a wee bit of a change of tune from him.

That's probably because he knows he has missed the boat. Whatever he does, he will now always behind NZ/SQ. Perhaps VA is nearing Star Alliance after all.


25 EK413 : What about AB? Curious if there is any light at the end of the tunnel for AB. EK8413
26 Post contains links mariner : Dunno. He's got a lot of balls in the air, as the actress said to the bishop - 29% of Air Berlin and I've no idea what he'll do about Aer Lingus (3%)
27 EK413 : You got that right. Seems as though EY have gone on a shopping spree & didn't do their homework. Far to much money and than sense. EK8413
28 Post contains links CXfirst : http://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austr...sydney-perth-a330-only-on-weekdays VA will go all-A330 on weekday PER-SYD flights in October. From the article,
29 tullamarine : There is nothing to stop NZ, SQ and EY sharing 100% of VA amongst themselves. In fact it is quite likely and there are significant savings to be had
30 Post contains links and images EK413 : I didn't see the need to start a new thread so thought I'll bring this up. Qantas accepted delivery of A332 VH-EBS not to long ago and whilst browsing
31 Post contains links and images EK413 : Australian Aviation has gone a little quiet so thought I'll share a photo of diversions at BNE due to fog in SYD 28th May 2013. Pic by Adam @ YBBN Spo
32 Post contains images A36001 : I think it looks better just aft of the wing. It's a little cluttered where that is now. And also, how many Qantas airplanes has the Airbus paint sho
33 Post contains links and images EK413 : Certainly looks awkward in the new spot if you ask my opinion. BEFORE View Large View MediumPhoto © Ken Chen AFTER View Large View MediumPhoto © Da
34 Post contains images A36001 : Really? I've never really been a fan of Emirates putting the aircraft model in bold on the nose..... OMG is anyone watching SBS1? Remote control cras
35 Post contains images zkokq : Thanks for Sharing my group. L.
36 Post contains images EK413 : Your welcome. Perhaps I should've asked for your permission but that's why I included the link EK8413
37 Boof : This is just a guess but I'd say this isn't a mistake and was meant to be like this. Given how much VA market the fact that Coast to Coast services a
38 EK413 : Valid point & you might be right on the mark. Marketing the East - West A330 services probably in the pipeline and this is just beginning of what
39 Post contains links sydscott : http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/o...em-in/story-e6frfq80-1226662257623 I've also seen some rather large pax in my time but hadn't really considered
40 smi0006 : Its a tricky one, what is even more tricky is in the context of wheelchair customers who are overweight - where airline staff are expected to lift th
41 CXfirst : I was on a Skywest Flight (F50) from GET to PER last year, and there was a seriously overweight miner (maybe not miner, but obviously a FIFO worker of
42 qf002 : It certainly looks strange. I guess we'll find out if it was deliberate when the next JQ plane gets repainted. Sorry to go so wildly off course, but
43 sydscott : Leaving aside the overweight part, I thought it was a requirement that a disabled passenger, depending on the level of disability, travel with someon
44 RyanairGuru : I guess that would be the best scenario, although (and I don't want to come over in any discriminatory when I say this) but would most larger individ
45 Post contains links smi0006 : It varies from airline to airline, I can't recall the specific policy at QF or VA. Foreign airlines generally only requires that the person traveling
46 Post contains links RyanairGuru : The Canton Route To Australia: China Southern In J (by palmjet Apr 14 2013 in Trip Reports) Palmjet recently flew CZ AMS-BNE. The soft product looks s
47 eta unknown : From what I've heard, premium economy on CZ leaves a lot to be desired. CZ have spent a lot of money on advertising the Canton Route on TV/billboards/
48 thegeek : The former is surprising because the alternative services to Europe from BNE are pretty lacking. Half the EK flights to BNE require a stop in SIN, la
49 CXfirst : PER was always going to be a bit hard. A flight to Europe through CAN is quite a bit longer than through SIN/KUL/BKK/DXB/DOH. Same reason CX doesn't
50 zkokq : I thought BNE was great for CZ. I will have to have a look into that.
51 eta unknown : Ex BNE you need to overnight in CAN (CZ pays) if going to LHR. Same with KE. Other BNE-Europe options are SQ/MH/TG/CX/BR/EK/EY and soon GA for same da
52 RyanairGuru : Alternatively fly to AMS or CDG and get a connecting flight. These options are often cheaper than the CAN overnight, and if you go to CDG you can fly
53 Post contains links and images EK413 : We'll find out soon with EBQ, EBR, receiving the flying Kangaroo colors very soon and joining forces with the growing fleet of A332's Your the 2nd to
54 Post contains images zkokq : No need to ask Adam was stoked you shared his photo L.
55 SYDSpotter : Is there a hotel within CAN? Or does CAN now offer transit visa's similar to the short term visa's at PVG and PEK?
56 eta unknown : I think CAN offered this service before PEK.
57 CXfirst : An article in the West Australian announced that the A380 gate at PER will be delayed until March 2014, so the second time it has been delayed. They'r
58 Post contains links EK413 : Airport delays Emirates again Geoffrey Thomas Aviation Editor, The West Australian June 12, 2013, 6:27 am Here's the link http://au.news.yahoo.com/the
59 SYDAIRPORTS : Does anyone know what the building at SYD that DJ 1st used as a terminal is used for now ? (the lowset building on LHS before getting to main domestic
60 DeltaB717 : Nothing really... occasional functions is about it I think... and they are occasional!
61 Sydscott : Yeah like bad planning and incompetent management. He's the CEO for goodness sake and would have known about all of these "elements" prior to making
62 Post contains images EK413 : This has really become beyond a joke! EK8413
63 Ben175 : Perth Airport is seriously the joke of the century. I don't understand anymore. It's not just aviation nutters who think so either, literally everybod
64 EK413 : Joke of the century indeed. That's what happens when you have a money hungry corporation managing our airports-system, well at least PER in this case
65 Ben175 : Surely the government is aware of the impact on tourism and such!? Why haven't they stepped in?
66 Sydscott : In all seriousness, considering how bad Adelaide used to be PER Management could jump on a plane, fly to ADL, photocopy the plans and take them back
67 Post contains links and images EK413 : This Versus I wonder who did their homework and completed it. In Perths case I bet the dog ate it! EK8413
68 Post contains images tullamarine : They could just up and take the whole airport. ADL doesn't need an airport. No one want to go there anyway
69 Post contains links and images QF175 : AIR CANADA During the recent Air Canada Investor Day, Brisbane was listed as a serious contender for 787 services: Air Canada 2013 Investor Day Presen
70 RyanairGuru : Interesting, thanks for sharing. AC had already indicated that another Australian market was on the cards, and it was between MEL and BNE. It's reall
71 TruemanQLD : Why? When the market is so saturated between Oz and SIN (SQ multiple daily to most capitals, QF from most capitals, EK/EY/BA/TZ) and especially given
72 Ben175 : I think it would be nice for DJ to pick up the slack that QF left. A daily 738 PER-SIN (departing around 9-10am, complimenting the existing SQ service
73 Post contains images qf002 : One would hope so, but even those passengers who want to take proactive action will have trouble finding out about what they should do on QF/VA's res
74 Post contains links allrite : According to the Sydney Morning Herald China Southern eyed grabbing a 10-15% stake in Qantas earlier this year. Source
75 EK413 : Interesting news. I'm curious if this comment refers to QF Asian routes prior to the restructure of their flights. "Merrill Lynch analysts have estim
76 Sydscott : As I said in the other thread about HND, it will be interesting to see if Australia receives better timed slots into HND. If it does I can see QF and
77 CXfirst : I posted a link earlier to ausbt in this thread, where it stated VA were going to make all weekday SYD-PER flights into A330's from October, when the
78 Post contains links and images allrite : The new Qantas Frequent Flyer ad, to be screened tonight, features NASA's Curiosity Rover. I'm hoping to sit next to Curiosity next time I fly Qantas.
79 Post contains images EK413 : I know the source Wikipedia ain't reliable at the best of times but appears VA have 5 x A332's from Airbus plus the 2 x ex-EK. Again I don't feel ver
80 CXfirst : I trust ausbt, as they seem to be quite reliable. It is just that I can't really find anything else on the web regarding this 7th A330 (I can only fi
81 jrfspa320 : Is this a new aircraft? Will the ex EK A330s be given a refurb to bring them up to the same standard?
82 ZuluAlpha : I would not be surprised if this happens, I was informed on a recent delay on the QF8 BNE SYD the vast majority of the passengers were connecting ont
83 Post contains links QF175 : Thanks for sharing... anecdotal reports also suggest Air Canada carries a decent amount of cargo from Canada to Sydney, that is eventually bound for
84 Post contains images allrite : No wonder Qantas was eager to sign NASA up. It would take a while to earn the 25,000,000 points to redeem a Virgin Galactic flight with any of VA's c
85 Ben175 : Great news about the Perth-Lombok rumour being true! Hopefully this market proves well and we see JQ or a competitor open up other secondary Indonesia
86 RyanairGuru : Random comment tha Also got anecdotal evidence of something similar. Last July I flew QF BNE-SYD-HKG, and the vast majority of passengers from my BNE
87 DolphinAir747 : On a different note, is it possible that EK will soon add more nonstop flights to SYD/MEL/BNE to replace its flights via Southeast Asia? Having an int
88 sydscott : From a totally nerdy point of view this is interesting because QF have yet to apply for any additional IASC Indonesia Capacity to operate the route.
89 qf002 : Nope. I would assume that these will be the first planes to be retired when the A330 replacement (an order is apparently due by the end of the year)
90 EK413 : I've heard the QF service is doing very well & the original plans to drop the route have been shelved. EK8413
91 qf002 : It certainly seemed to do extremely well over the summer, so I would be surprised to see it go. Perhaps EK could move their flight elsewhere (CGK/MNL
92 SYDAIRPORTS : there's a new FIFO terminal at BNE airport. Apparently there's a departure lounge near old international terminal & passengers are bused to door o
93 SYDAIRPORTS : more news Someone is seriously looking at operating Bankstown to Archerfield using either Dash 8's or 30 seater jets plus also Bankstown to Essendon a
94 IndianicWorld : If they can get a Sydney/Bankstown to Moorabbin route to start I can definitely see potential in that. Essendon I don't see the point in given its cl
95 ben175 : According to PlaneFinder there's an AtlasAir 747-8F sitting on the tarmac at PER right now. Safe to say the first of its type to land in WA.
96 Post contains links QF175 : VIRGIN AUSTRALIA - BRISBANE AIRPORT BAC and Virgin Australia Reach Agreement to Enhance Customer Experience at Brisbane Airport Virgin Australia - Med
97 sydscott : EK413 - any idea how MEL-BKK does on Jetstar? I'd heard if th relative success of SYD-BKK sow as wondering how the MEL service was going and whether t
98 eaglefarm4 : I believe Brenzil facility which is also used for Hawker Pacific does the Alliance FIFO workers.I have seen them walk across the tarmac, not by bus,
99 6thfreedom : My understanding is that a bit like Etihad's AUH-SIN-BNE sector, that the through traffic to BNE actually helps support the daily service to SIN. In
100 CXfirst : I saw it come in from a distance. At first, I didn't realize it was a 747, but I did notice it was a quad-jet, which I found unusual, as it came in f
101 SYDAIRPORTS : Not talking 2033 but right now. It's already in use. Will try & find out more. Don't think it Brenzil facility for Alliance. Was told this one th
102 tullamarine : Given the popularity of weekend trips to Hamilton and Hayman Islands, the omission of Monday and Friday from the schedule is weird.
103 SYDAIRPORTS : Yes but VA can see how many & when they have passengers flying MEL/HTI/MEL via BNE or SYD + have to have aircraft available. Aren't Mon & Fri
104 kaitak : Hello, Do you recall that incident a few months back, at DFW, where a captain and a SO had a rather vocal difference of opinion, which resulted in the
105 skyhawkmatthew : This would be interesting. There would need to be a significant investment in upgraded terminal facilities at all three aerodromes, though – perhap
106 SYDAIRPORTS : there's a terminal at Bankstown beside Skyforce hangar which is unused at present. It could easily handle 30 something people & a lot more. Skyfo
107 SCL767 : Qantas will add an additional weekly frequency on the SYD-SCL route from 20DEC13 through 10JAN14.
108 skyhawkmatthew : There is a terminal at Bankstown – it's not far from my base – but it's not in the best condition from my peeking in from outside. It wouldn't ta
109 zkokq : For the Brisbanites, Air New Zealand has scheduled a 747-400 on this coming Sundays schedule. Could be the last time we see an NZ 744 here in Brisbane
110 Post contains images EK413 : Do we have a arrival / departure time EK8413
111 Bluebird191 : It's operating flights NZ135/136 - arrives BNE at 11.10, departing at 12.25 or thereabouts.[Edited 2013-06-20 14:43:37]
112 eaglefarm4 : I have NZ 744'S on Sat 6,13 and 20 July as well for BNE.
113 SYDAIRPORTS : & 27 July. Guess this is Australian & New Zealand school holidays.
114 byronicle6 : NZ 744 is also scheduled on all Saturday AKL-BNE-AKL NZ135/136 services from December to the end of May 2014.
115 SYDAIRPORTS : Saturday is a very popular day for start of holidays + there's probably a situation where Australians can't get to AKL to link up with LAX, SFO &
116 Post contains images EK413 : This would explain why the upgrade in equipment. There seemed to be 3 x UA B744 flights arriving into SYD this morning. Anyone able to shed some ligh
117 DolphinAir747 : Maybe if the problem is that there aren't enough times a day when EK can fly DXB-SYD nonstop, we've reached the day when 3 388s is too small for EK!
118 RyanairGuru : You're pretty much right! And the reason is that DXB is connected by banks. LHR is 5x but there is a huge amount of LHR-DXB O&D, a lot more than
119 Post contains images EK413 : Here I am waiting to witness what could be the last NZ B744 service into BNE & realised its tomorrow's flight not today! EK8413
120 TN486 : The joys of spotting mate. Noticed QF571 (738) SYD - PER this evening (sat 22 Jun) is taking quite a southerly routing.
121 zkokq : I will be out tomorrow, hoping to get some killer photos!
122 eaglefarm4 : zk-okq are you new to this.I have photographed the NZ 744 fleet to death. No interest to me anymore.
123 zkokq : I have only caught one of the NZ 744's in BNE and it was cloudy and shitty weather... So no, not new at all.
124 zkokq : I also didn't realise we couldn't see and photograph an aircraft more than once Lloyd. I'll make sure I ask your permission next time.
125 eaglefarm4 : Yes you are new to this then.That's all i wanted to know.
126 Post contains images EK413 : I watched NZ B744 ZK-NBV takeoff with a very early rotation. I'll be uploading the video footage. EK8413
127 Post contains links EK413 : NZ upgauged today's NZ135/136 service and here is the video of B747-419 ZK-NBV departing BNE from runway 19 http://youtu.be/B9aznbpQ8VA EK8413
128 TN486 : EK 413, thank you for taking the time and effort to bring that video to us, cheers
129 RyanairGuru : Having seen an NZ 744 @ BNE many, many, many times, it's only just dawned on me that I might never see it again. Thanks for sharing
130 EK413 : Your welcome I know it's not the greatest footage but I managed to capture the moment with my iPhone. EK8413
131 skyhawkmatthew : There appears to have been an Aerolineas Argentinas A340, LV-ZPX, parked on a remote stand at Sydney airport for the last week or so – does anyone k
132 EK413 : I was curious what's up with this aircraft. I flew into SYD on the 19/6 & the aircraft was still parked on the hard stand 21/6. Probably waiting
133 Sandgroper : EK413 thanks also for sharing, I'll never forget early days of SYD-AKL service on the 747 and a very funny Maori flight attendant walking down the ais
134 Post contains links thegeek : Delays into BNE continuing, but improving slightly: http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...rport/story-fnihsrf2-1226668787722 How about narrow body ta
135 EK413 : Negligence is the word that best describes BAC. The operators had ample time to commence work on the new runway but their decision is to play these g
136 Bluebird191 : BNE is my home airport and in my 22 or so flights arriving in here I've never experienced a holding pattern or delay, but did have a delayed arrival o
137 RyanairGuru : True. With all the focus on PER, I think we haven't paid enough attention to BNE around here. BNE is almost as incompetent as PER, but seems to attra
138 ben175 : Really? BNE has had an A380 gate for years now. The number of aerobridges at each terminal is pretty much doubled, and tripled at the domestic precin
139 Bluebird191 : I know I'm likely going to get it sometime, but most of my flights into BNE usually arrive about 9.30am, 5pm or 7.30pm so probably lucky it hasn't ha
140 eaglefarm4 : They have called in NATS which is the UK equivalent of Air Services and NATS handle Gatwick. They produced a very detailed report which includes more
141 EK413 : I agree with RyanairGuru, our attention has been focused on PER whilst BNE has been flying under the radar. Yes, BNE invested over the years in proje
142 maxter : Did something happen to a Virgin flight up at Broome today? I believe a 738 was parked away from the terminal with some emergency service vehicles aro
143 Post contains images RyanairGuru : I'm sorry, but the quality of an airport's infrastructure isn't measure by the number of A380 gates it has I agree, BNE has done a decent job of pass
144 thegeek : I expect the new parallel runway at BNE will need to be served by all new terminals. I would guess that the current international one would be the fir
145 ZuluAlpha : With the talk of the parallel runway, and from what I remember of the taxiways that will take the aircraft to the parallel runway, is the spotting pos
146 zkokq : A new one has been proposed and will be built before Acacia St is closed.
147 Post contains links and images EK413 : When you compare the old International with the NEW I totally agree BAC have certainly been on top of the infrastructure minus the urgent 2nd runway.
148 SYDAIRPORTS : another flight BNE/SYD today & yet another delay. 2 recent flights on QF delayed 1 hour & today on Tiger delayed 20 mins due to inbound aircra
149 VH-BZF : Great to see that Qantas is Australia's most on time airline again at 87+%. I must admit that I fly QF for many reasons and this is one of the importa
150 Post contains images EK413 : That's an insult to tell you the truth. Your comparing apples with oranges! EK8413
151 eaglefarm4 : Let me answer this as i was one of 4 spotters taken out by a former BAC mgr to discuss the new viewing location.Anything on the western side of RWY 1
152 Post contains links eaglefarm4 : 700 movements at BNE yesterday with 650 plus on one runway only.54 in the hour 9am-10am.We are now the 2nd busiest capital city airport in Australia
153 ZuluAlpha : Thanks for the information eaglefarm4. From the fire station, I can visualise that it will be an excellent midway point giving excellent opportunitie
154 eaglefarm4 : ZuluAlpha yes i am one who is extremely excited as you say we can see all movements into and out of the terminals except the GA .You will get a better
155 SYDAIRPORTS : not really. What is the difference ?
156 Post contains images RyanairGuru : To be honest it is the ONLY reason I fly QF, at least it was initially. I have now grown to appreciate their professional and understated service, bu
157 tullamarine : I think this is when movements is counted. Actual pax numbers still favour MEL massively.
158 eaglefarm4 : Yes i was always only talking about movements.There was never any mention of pax. MEL is still the 2nd busiest pax airport and will reamin that way fo
159 EK413 : When was the last time you received a courtesy call from TT informing your flight has been cancelled & been rebooked on the next available flight
160 SYDAIRPORTS : on most QF flights you get a cookie or muffin not a meal. With DJ now controlling TT they will not be allowed anywhere near peak hour on golden trian
161 EK413 : You seem to be avoiding the point. On QF you receive a full service which includes coffee, tea, beverages & IFE regardless time of day. Please co
162 Post contains links EK413 : Looks as though EY continues with their expansion strategy within Australia by increasing their stake in VA just below 20% by increasing their stake t
163 tullamarine : I would predict VAH is delisted within 12 months with minority shareholders being taken out by the 4 major shareholders. The ASX listing is an expensi
164 aryonoco : Yes when you look at VAH's current shareholder structure, it really doesn't make sense for it to be a publicly traded company anymore. Sure being publ
165 EK413 : Any news on the AR A340 which continues to call Sydney, Australia home for over a week. The aircraft was in the QF hangars on Wednesday. EK8413
166 VH-BZF : I left a soggy Sydney today and noticed the AR A340 still in the QF open air hangar. Also in Melbourne I noticed the AirCalin A330 at the internationa
167 Post contains links ben175 : Very interesting news piece concerning regional airline regulation in WA: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-2...egional-airline-regulation/4789092 It
168 RyanairGuru : For the record I knew that eaglefarm was talking about movements. That certainly won't help with runway congestion, but it is a nice statistic noneth
169 sydscott : I think that deregulation would be the ideal for most of these regional routes. I think allowing both Qantaslink and Virgin Regional in would bring c
170 EK413 : And most importantly you and I the "consumer". EK8413
171 Post contains links qf002 : AI will apparently start flying the 787 to SYD and MEL from August 29th. The original source is one that apparently can't be linked here, but AusBT ha
172 RyanairGuru : Yes, just so long as both actually enter the market. Look at QLD where QantasLink has a MASSIVE network, and on some routes runs an impressive schedu
173 IndianicWorld : I think this shows there is only potential for a limited competition on many routes. Its great to think there would be many more seats in the market,
174 QF15 : I count 4 routes they've started, BNE-BDB/EMD/GLT/MOV. Plus taking over TSV-CNS/ROK from the e-jets. But as you said Qantaslink have a stranglehold o
175 mariner : I agree and I think it is stupid. It's why Australia needs a genuine LCC, one that isn't completely beguiled by the Golden Triangle of MEL-SYD-BNE. m
176 IndianicWorld : Go ask TT how well targeting non- golden triangle routes went? There's a reason the new carriers chase that market, as that's where the demand is and
177 mariner : I'm fully aware of what happened with Tiger. I said a "genuine" LCC, which I don't think Tiger was or is. I think it was product of legacy thinking d
178 IndianicWorld : TR actually started with involvement from the founder of Ryanair (Tony Ryan). I think that TT is as bare bones as one could expect to go in this coun
179 mariner : Assuming you mean TT, yes, I know that. That;s why I was so surprised that it went the way it did. But Tony Ryan's one (only?) stroke of genius was h
180 Post contains images IndianicWorld : No I mean TR, which Is Tiger Singapore. And those European routes are built on a higher population base from many secondary airports. Trying to get t
181 Post contains images mariner : My bad. At least I knew it wasn't Transbrasil, which is what a.net thinks it is. A lot of them are, yes - and tertiary airports. There is also extrao
182 BenSandilands : I think Ryanair is misunderstood in this discussion. In the two hours or more it can take to connect between LH flights at Frankfurt or BA flights at
183 mariner : I think you and I must have a different view of Ryanair. Your description of it doesn't equate with my own experiences of flying with the airline, no
184 DeltaB717 : As QF15 says it's actually 4... also VA announced CNS-WEI last week and has been very vocal about RMA if the route regulation was taken away.
185 flylonghaul : I think that perhaps some of the most "ghastly" experiences relating to flying FR come from those that are unfamiliar with the structure of the airli
186 BenSandilands : Memo self. Must put inverted commas around or use italics more to indicate irony, as in 'ghastly' as distinct from ghastly. And I am 182 cms tall with
187 Post contains links and images QF175 : Australian Aviation Thread # 75 is up and running, please cease discussion in this thread
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