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BBC AirportLive , 17th-20th June  
User currently offlinextra1 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 111 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11427 times:

Heads up for those in the UK:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/airport-live.html

Starts this Monday on BBC 2.

62 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinetimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1338 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11411 times:

Hopefully it's interesting (and on iPlayer/ Youtube for a while as I am not around when it's on!), but I fear it will be dumbed down and slightly silly.

User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11378 times:
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Here is the trailer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01b8s5f

Looks very interesting, in the diary!

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11304 times:
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Shame that I'm not able to see this :/


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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6013 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11296 times:

Looks pretty damn interesting  

User currently offlineglideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11256 times:

Nice. Looks to be a great series.   


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User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 838 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11206 times:

Quoting timboflier215 (Reply 1):
Hopefully it's interesting (and on iPlayer/ Youtube for a while as I am not around when it's on!), but I fear it will be dumbed down and slightly silly.

As it is BBC2 it should be a bit more sensible than you expect.


User currently offlinetimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1338 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11189 times:

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 6):
As it is BBC2 it should be a bit more sensible than you expect.

I hope so, but these sorts of live events tend to be quite dumbed down in my experience.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6013 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11189 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 2):
Here is the trailer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01b8s5f

Anyone able to load the other program clips on the right? The trailer works fine, but I'm getting "Media selection error" with the other 3.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27112 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11152 times:

Looks good.

Quoting teme82 (Reply 3):
Shame that I'm not able to see this :/

If you want to see it on the net get an IP blocker or via a website that offers UK IP adresses. I know some people get around it that way.


User currently offlineshilenb From UK - England, joined Oct 2012, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11042 times:

This is the best news I've heard all day. Very much looking forward to this

User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 846 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10829 times:

Quoting timboflier215 (Reply 1):
but I fear it will be dumbed down and slightly silly

I think the BBC2 programme on a BA 747-400 D check was well received so no reason to think the same quality won't be maintained for this forthcoming set of programmes


User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10792 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):

If you want to see it on the net get an IP blocker or via a website that offers UK IP adresses. I know some people get around it that way.

Well... I don't need those. I have friends... I'm not saying nothing more .... It is nice that there is mkv container for video files. But If BBC would have international iPlayer I would be one of the first ones to get it.



Flying high and low
User currently offlinetheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10720 times:

Quoting teme82 (Reply 13):
But If BBC would have international iPlayer I would be one of the first ones to get it.

I am not sure they ever will as its effectivly paid for by a 'Tax' or licence fee in the UK, which in my opnion is very good value for money considering the radio and television that you get for it. However some in the UK don't agree...

Back on topic hopefully this is of the quality of the program on a BA747 maintenance check.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27112 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10580 times:

Quoting teme82 (Reply 13):
But If BBC would have international iPlayer I would be one of the first ones to get it.

Indeed. Another option is ''Filmon'' which is free and broadcasts with a few mins delay all the BBC channels and I find it great.

Quoting theginge (Reply 14):
I am not sure they ever will as its effectivly paid for by a 'Tax' or licence fee in the UK, which in my opnion is very good value for money considering the radio and television that you get for it. However some in the UK don't agree...

Id rather pay the BBC the EUR160 I currently have to pay here for crap TV I dont even watch !!

Its great the BBC continue to offer aviation programs. Airport was a great series back in the day and Im glad they have decided to do a modern one with a different slant.


User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10390 times:
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Quoting theginge (Reply 14):
I am not sure they ever will as its effectivly paid for by a 'Tax' or licence fee in the UK, which in my opnion is very good value for money considering the radio and television that you get for it. However some in the UK don't agree...

I would pay a fee if BBC would give their programs to whole world.

OA260, I have sources that can give me HD video if needed.



Flying high and low
User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 846 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 9975 times:

Does anyone know if the BBC are planning any coverage of Le Bourget and if so when its being shown? - thanks

User currently offlinevsflyer747400 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9775 times:

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 17):
Does anyone know if the BBC are planning any coverage of Le Bourget and if so when its being shown? - thanks

I think, given the fact that Le Bourget is a French trade event, most unlikely. Possibly a snippet on BBC news and even then probably only if its to do with an order for a British carrier or a huge Airbus order.

I wouldn't hold my breath  



Being on: (in no order) VS BA AA EK CX MH DL EI BD KL HV NW RC LH AF DA TG QF US FR LX AC SK AZ PG SQ UA PA
User currently offlinepilotanthony From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8523 times:

I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS!!!!! LHR HOME!!


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User currently offlinesbworcs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 848 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 6987 times:

Quite enjoying it so far!


The best way forwards is upwards!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27112 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 6971 times:

Yes its very good  

User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12518 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 6938 times:

Most educational and informative; quite like the series that was on a few years back - no sensationalism; telling it as it is.

Could watch this for hours (usually do when I'm there!)


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27112 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 6894 times:

Loved the bit where they went around and under the SQ A380 with the line maintenance guy   

User currently offlinesbworcs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 848 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 6762 times:

Really enjoyed that. Was informative and will definitely tune in again tomorrow. Especially liked the turnround bits and information about lift etc.


The best way forwards is upwards!
User currently offlineRobertNL070 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 4532 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 6469 times:

Nice concept. I do wish Kate Humble wasn't so exciteable.


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User currently offlineIH8BY From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1142 posts, RR: 3
Reply 25, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 6835 times:

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 24):
Nice concept. I do wish Kate Humble wasn't so exciteable.

The BBC is always keen to roll out 'celebrity presenters' for programmes like this in order to make them seem approachable, and sometimes/usually I feel it's totally unnecessary and condescending, but generally I felt that the opening programme struck a nice balance between informative and entertaining. It probably helps that the Open University is involved.



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User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 846 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 6756 times:

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 24):
Nice concept. I do wish Kate Humble wasn't so exciteable

Do bear in mind that Kate was a last minute stand in for Dan Snow and probably didn't have a lot of prep time - and she's more used to lambs and calves than A380s and 747s - she even admitted that ordinarily she doesn't like going to airports.


User currently offlinephen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 6929 times:

A jolly good effort on the part of the BBC there; live TV is difficult enough in a controlled environment but to pull off a full hour of live broadcasting with no commercial breaks from an airport control tower, the ramp, an aircraft under tow and an aircraft about to depart is fantastic. I'll definately be tuning in for the rest of the week, I hope it will become available for a.netters who can't watch it live.

User currently offlinepilotanthony From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 6849 times:

absolutely amazing!!! i was shocked how it was filmed all so perfectyl!!! i miss LONDON!!!


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User currently offlineadriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 29, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 6799 times:

Am I the only one who thought it was absolute crap? I mean i love aviation and the shots of Heathrow are great bla bla. I turned off after the 5th time Kate Humble (really annoying presenter at the best of times) said "So how high up are we here" when talking about the control tower. Jesus what a terrible terrible terribly produced TV show. Difficult to stress the pathetic production of this.

User currently offlineanstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5263 posts, RR: 7
Reply 30, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 6721 times:

Quoting adriaticflight (Reply 29):
Am I the only one who thought it was absolute crap? I

Probably! I actually quite enjoyed it and thought the BBC did well. To be honest I thought the most cringe worhty thing was the guy laying in the SQ suite and the way he spoke to the SQ FA..


User currently offlineadriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 31, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 6682 times:

Quoting anstar (Reply 30):
Probably! I actually quite enjoyed it and thought the BBC did well.

I just can;t stand the whole "live" "oh my god it;s amazing" attitude of shows like this. Its a stylistic dislike to this kind of documentaries. I've written for TV so I guess I;ll never be able to watch this kind of programe even about topics i love.


User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 6643 times:

Remembering that it is aimed at a general audience and is probably more casual viewing for those in-the-know I thought they handled it well. They didn't dumb it down too much, was factually correct - or at least not incorrect - and considering the main presenter wasn't that interested in the topic, did well to engage. I'm hoping in the coming episodes they go into a bit more detail on some aspects - they're supposed to be following a realtime aircraft turnaround tomorrow for example.

User currently offlineupperdeck From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2010, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 6618 times:

I think you have to remember that the show isn't aimed toward us a.netters, it's for those with less appreciation and understanding of all things aviation. Most of what was covered will not have been a surprise to most of us on here, but nonetheless I thought it was very well done with very few, if any, factual inaccuracies that we all like to bitch about when we see aviation related shows elsewhere.

Kudos to the BBC.


User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 912 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 6495 times:

Very much enjoyed the programme and am looking forward to tomorrow night!


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User currently offlineafterburner33 From New Zealand, joined Aug 2012, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

Quoting upperdeck (Reply 33):

I think you have to remember that the show isn't aimed toward us a.netters, it's for those with less appreciation and understanding of all things aviation. Most of what was covered will not have been a surprise to most of us on here, but nonetheless I thought it was very well done with very few, if any, factual inaccuracies that we all like to bitch about when we see aviation related shows elsewhere.

Kudos to the BBC.

  

I thought, as a show aimed at the general public, it was pretty good. Even my wife was interested, and she is normally totally indifferent about aviation.

Looking forward to the remaining shows.


User currently offlinePaulbc From UK - England, joined Jul 2010, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 6178 times:

I guess we have to congratulate Kate Humble on jumping in at the deep end at the last minute to cover for Dan Snow, who was off for personal reasons, but it was something of an ardour dampening after weeks of excitement for the presenter to say that she "didn't like airports". A bit like Monty Don saying "sod the bloody garden, let it run to weed".

But good content, interesting features, well put together. A lot of Airbus bias though, didn't you think ? They might mention Boeings tonight...  

Paul
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User currently offlineslinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 6015 times:

Quoting adriaticflight (Reply 29):
Am I the only one who thought it was absolute crap?

No you're not. While I enjoyed some of the prerecorded sequences (at least they had a producer who appeared to know what they were doing) the live parts were awful. Here are three gems from the inept presenters:

- To engineer: "what do you put in engines to service them?", A. "oil".
- "Oooh I never knew water came out of a plane".
- To man in control tower: "what's your worst case scenario?", A. "a crash".

To me it just reinforces how dumbed down the BBC is nowadays (you only have to watch Breakfast 'News' to see this), and especially how the Beeb seems to go for airhead presenters who have no enthusiasm or even brief for their job, yet get paid much more highly than the experts running airlines and servicing planes. The analogy with the One Show is so true ...


User currently offlinebrightcedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 38, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 5920 times:

We also get the BBC here in Belgium, I found the show real nice and interesting. Looking forward to the next episodes!


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27112 posts, RR: 60
Reply 39, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5835 times:

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 37):
- "Oooh I never knew water came out of a plane".

Again its not aimed at Anetters ! If your referring to the bit where she said she was wondering why hot water was being released they explained it quite well for those who know nothing about these things. A neighbour of mine watched it and commented on it and said she would not have thought about it ! So it served its purpose of educating people that would not know these things.


User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 846 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 5611 times:

Quoting Paulbc (Reply 36):
A lot of Airbus bias though, didn't you think ? They might mention Boeings tonight...

If you knew nothing about LHR you did tend to get the idea from the shots shown that it was awash with A380s as they did tend to hog the limelight - though there were plenty of shots of the BA747s to give a bit of balance  


User currently offlineeljas From Singapore, joined Mar 2013, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 5535 times:

Quoting anstar (Reply 30):
To be honest I thought the most cringe worhty thing was the guy laying in the SQ suite and the way he spoke to the SQ FA..

True, it did seem like SQ were pushing for some free advertising (on the BBC???) for their service and product.

On the plus side, the turnaround piece was very well edited, equal representation of VS and BA crews. I guess the beeb don't want Branson or Walsh throwing a tantrum...

Overall a very interesting and informative show, with plenty of nice views... I look forward to the rest of it.


User currently offlinextra1 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 111 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4229 times:

These episodes(1-3) are now viewable via YouTube.
Episode 4 , still has to be broadcast tonight.

Episode 1:-
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qeA_8yMpQhI

Episode 2:-
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NHS12PWhJ10

Episode 3:-
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9mX30SL2Z0U


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3637 posts, RR: 3
Reply 43, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4013 times:

I've watched all three episodes to date, and think that accusations of "dumbing down" are unwarranted.
It is mainstream television and has to appeal to an audience of millions, many of whom wouldn't normally even know the difference between Airbus and Boeing.

My only criticism to date would be that the control tower sequences get a little monotonous, particularly as they don't seem to take full advantage of the view it commands, lots of distance shots, but few closeups.

The rest of the programme appears to be well constructed to show evrything from the nearly blindingly obvious such as "cargo travels in the hold" to quite detailed information regarding the painting of aircraft. I'm sure there weren't many viewers who already knew exactly how many dots make up the flag on a BA A320 fin.

They haven't as yet covered anything regarding passenger handling in the terminals, but thats been covered extensively in character led docuseries (Airport which was filmd at Heathrow, plus the long running series about Easyjet)

I did note two evenings running, low load factors on VS, 141 pax on a 333 to Washington on Tuesday and 145 on a 346 to Johannesberg yesterday, slightly surprised both by the figures and that they willingly disclosed them.


User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 43):
My only criticism to date would be that the control tower sequences get a little monotonous, particularly as they don't seem to take full advantage of the view it commands, lots of distance shots, but few closeups.

Agree, although that might be in part due to the last minute replacement of presenter - she sometimes seems too overwhelmed by the information.

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 43):
They haven't as yet covered anything regarding passenger handling in the terminals, but thats been covered extensively in character led docuseries (Airport which was filmd at Heathrow, plus the long running series about Easyjet)

And I don't think they should. Like you say, plenty of other series about it and this is more aimed at the parts the passengers can't see.

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 43):
I did note two evenings running, low load factors on VS, 141 pax on a 333 to Washington on Tuesday and 145 on a 346 to Johannesberg yesterday, slightly surprised both by the figures and that they willingly disclosed them.

Yh noticed that as well. Although at least on the JNB service they had the rally car cargo as well which will bring in a bit more revenue.


User currently offlineTheAviator380 From UK - England, joined Feb 2013, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

To me it's brilliant series. They have tried their best to explain most of the aviation/airport things in simple terms so even common man can understand that.

Quoting Bthebest (Reply 44):

If she is not in to Aviation unlike us, it's so natural to overwhelm with the information, I don't see anything wrong in it.

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 40):

A380 is simply most talked about aircraft at the moment, almost 5 years in to the service but public craze and excitement about this giant is still there. So obviously they showing more things relate to A380. 747 is almost a past now, long gone, there is nothing exciting left in it for good number of people who are not in to aviation/aviation hobby. I don't see anything wrong in it.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 39):

Well said. I love aviation, I go for flight spotting and follow few things but even that thing was new to me..we all learn something every day.

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 37):

Sounds little harsh to me...Every one watching programme or people asking questions are not Aviation experts.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27112 posts, RR: 60
Reply 46, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3867 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 43):
I did note two evenings running, low load factors on VS, 141 pax on a 333 to Washington on Tuesday and 145 on a 346 to Johannesberg yesterday, slightly surprised both by the figures and that they willingly disclosed them.

Yes that was very surprising. I also thought that giving out the loads would be a no no but I guess either they had not thought about it or they are being fully open. The jury is out. Good come back from the VS Girl though that everyone would have lots of space to move around LOL... I doubt we will see Little (in the ) Red being dispatched though LOL..

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 45):
Well said. I love aviation, I go for flight spotting and follow few things but even that thing was new to me..we all learn something every day.

Exactly and there is no harm in admitting it. Plenty of things I have picked up. Plenty of arm chair CEOs but the one who is always willing to learn and listen is the wiser one.  

I am a true aviation enthusiast and enjoy anything like this. Sitting in my living room with the 50'' HD TV and surround sound is great . Not as good as being there but still pretty cool.   Im thinking ot trying out the 3D upscaling tonight just to see if its any good.


User currently offlineTheAviator380 From UK - England, joined Feb 2013, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 46):

Cheers mate, hope you enjoy 3D view   can see Anita going for fire fight 

Talking about Little red..I doubt it too. Would love to 787 being dispatched....


User currently onlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 48, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3734 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 43):
I'm sure there weren't many viewers who already knew exactly how many dots make up the flag on a BA A320 fin.

And all to be removed from the stencil by hand.... over 27000, wasn't it? Poor guy who will have to do that for the A380 tail fin   



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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3637 posts, RR: 3
Reply 49, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3686 times:

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 48):
And all to be removed from the stencil by hand.... over 27000, wasn't it? Poor guy who will have to do that for the A380 tail fin

27652 for an A320, who can come up with the number for the A380 ?


User currently offlinebluesky73 From UK - England, joined Oct 2012, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3622 times:

I've watched them all so far and enjoyed what I've seen. Agreed Kate is rather excitable but she did work with Bill Oddie for years and probably even gets excited doing her weekly shopping.

It is good to see aircraft being turned around and G-EUYO was looking very factory fresh and gleaming.
Also good to see the repaint of G-EUUG and how they carry out prep and repaint.
I assume G-EUUM still has finishing touches to be completed but looks like it went in paint shop on 13th June.

Some more snapshots and milestones through the decades would be nice too but let's see what episode 4 brings.

Overall a good job and definately the best programme on the beeb this week.


User currently offlinehotplane From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 1133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (1 year 4 months 5 days ago) and read 3553 times:
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For some reason the A380s only have ten thousand tail dots.


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User currently offline9MMPD From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 52, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

Great series.

Hopefully this series will show authorities that the general public is fascinated by aviation and that proper viewing facilities at Heathrow are a great idea. If the public are more engaged with the operations of this facility it could show how restraint this facility is.


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3637 posts, RR: 3
Reply 53, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 51):
or some reason the A380s only have ten thousand tail dots.

I did wonder about that, the comment was made by a Airbus paint man, he was a little vague about the number on the lines of "about 10,000" he might have been speaking about one side only. Its completely feasible that the number of dots doesn't alter, just their diameter especially as the larger tails are generally viewed from further away.


User currently offlineart From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 54, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

I have seen bits of 2 of the transmissions. I thought it gave a good explanation of the operating procedures and considerations involved with dispatch, ATC etc and was quite informative.

User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12518 posts, RR: 35
Reply 55, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2989 times:

Tonight's is very good; the A380 landing was very interesting - nothing like a glass cockpit at night!

One thing that surprised me: the BA pilot said that there were only two reversers, the inboards (2 and 3). However, I thought that the CAA required reversers on all engines? (I realise all current A380s have reversers on two engines only).

This is a very good show and it is great that the BBC is bringing it to us; it's all the more important now because with security concerns, there isn't the time/possibility to look around the airport as there used to be.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 56, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

Anita said “can I fire your cannon?” What a euphemism!   


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27112 posts, RR: 60
Reply 57, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 47):
Cheers mate, hope you enjoy 3D view   can see Anita going for fire fight 

Thanks was great  

Congrats to the BBC a truly top class production. Its what makes you proud of the BBC and also of Heathrow. Its still one of the best Airports in the world.

Loved the detailed interior and exterior views of the new Terminal 2 . Really looking forward to that next year. Also a really nice bit about Concorde. Was so glad they did that piece.


User currently offlineflyingthe757 From UK - England, joined Mar 2013, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2858 times:
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BBC, you did a fantastic job with that show.

Very informative and interesting and showing things people see all the time, but did not understand.

Shame it was only 4 episodes.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13229 posts, RR: 77
Reply 59, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

For those not into aviation this series did a good job.
In the last one, I did like the balanced way the issues about how LHR affects the local community was handled, you don't get that very often. You usually only hear the views of a loud minority.

I agree that Dan Snow might have been more at ease than Kate Humble but if he could not do the live broadcasts, so be it. He's a common sight on the BBC doing history, military and aviation documentaries and does a good job.

Dave Barnes, the BA paint bay manager, got a few good natured comments like 'can we have an autograph' yesterday at work!


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 60, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting GDB (Reply 59):
In the last one, I did like the balanced way the issues about how LHR affects the local community was handled, you don't get that very often. You usually only hear the views of a loud minority.

Fully agree. Most intriguing.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineimag From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (1 year 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2347 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 43):
I did note two evenings running, low load factors on VS, 141 pax on a 333 to Washington on Tuesday and 145 on a 346 to Johannesberg yesterday, slightly surprised both by the figures and that they willingly disclosed them.

That was quite surprising to me. I fly to Johannesburg at least once a year and VS are usually the more expensive of the three direct flights (BA and SA the others). I often wonder why they don't just drop the prices a bit and get more pax in.

Overall, I think the BBC did a great job. Even as an a.nutter and someone who has done the Marriot plane spotter weekend at Heathrow, I learnt quite a bit.


User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 944 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 45):
A380 is simply most talked about aircraft at the moment, almost 5 years in to the service but public craze and excitement about this giant is still there. So obviously they showing more things relate to A380. 747 is almost a past now, long gone,

Exactly, for large aircraft the B747 captured the public's imagination from it's first flight in 1969. If the program had been made anytime between 1969 and 2008 the B747 would hold unofficial centre stage, a period of 39 years!!!!!! No-one can complain that the A380 has had this role for just 5 years now surely!

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 56):
Anita said “can I fire your cannon?” What a euphemism!   

Yes that made me spit my drink out.


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