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Air Zimbabwe Plans To Take On An A380  
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11691 posts, RR: 33
Posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 26252 times:

First it thought it was a joke but these words are coming from an Air Zimbabwe's spokesman:

Quote:
Air Zimbabwe has announced that it plans to take on an A380-800 as part of its long-haul fleet, in time for the resumption of Harare Int'l to London Gatwick flights in July. According to a report in Zimbabwe's Financial Gazette, Air Zimbabwe spokesman, Shingai Taruvinga, said a deal for a new A380 was underway, but could not disclose the identity of the owner, rumoured to be France-based. However, industry specialists have poured scorn on the move given that Harare International Airport has not the infrastructure to handle such an enormous aircraft. The Zimbabwean carrier was linked to two other high-profile deals in the past. The first, a planned deal with Ilyushin Design Bureau (Moscow Zhukovsky) for three Il-96s in 2008 and the second, for two A340-500s in 2011, neither of which ever came to fruition.

If true (which I doubt), I wonder where they could get an A380 so fast?

Story here:
http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...3-air-zimbabwe-gung-ho-on-the-a380


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 26037 times:

Hilarious!

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
I wonder where they could get an A380 so fast?

They have probably seen a Revell kit on eBay.


Dan  



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11691 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 25987 times:

This article has more details:

Quote:
AirZim has not revealed from whom it is leasing this plane, but industry players speculate that this is also from a France-based airline.
http://www.financialgazette.co.zw/?p=43481

This leaves two options:

> They lease MSN002 from Airbus.
> Or they lease an A380 from AF.

Again: if true  



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2715 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 25982 times:

I think the report is correct. You just have to deduct 40 from all numbers > 300  

User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 25975 times:

They would need the A380's freights ability to carry enough Zim. Dollars to pay for it.

Dave



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User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 25977 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
The Zimbabwean carrier was linked to two other high-profile deals in the past. The first, a planned deal with Ilyushin Design Bureau (Moscow Zhukovsky) for three Il-96s in 2008 and the second, for two A340-500s in 2011, neither of which ever came to fruition.

So its safe to say that this "deal" is as real as the tooth fairy? They have a total of 4 planes, one of which is stored and they want to get a hold of an A380?  


User currently offlinescarebus03 From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 25809 times:

I wonder if it's part of an election strategy. Whatever happened to the Air Austral order for '380s?

Brgds



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User currently offlineart From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 25813 times:

They would have to wet lease it, wouldn't they? I don't think 6 weeks would be enough time to train the crews required.

User currently onlineDexSwart From Australia, joined Aug 2012, 567 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 25457 times:

Quoting davescj (Reply 4):
They would need the A380's freights ability to carry enough Zim. Dollars to pay for it.

Zimbabwe has been using US Dollars for a while now, I'd know, I was there last year and also in January of this year.


This seems a little rediculous, however, Zimbabwe as a country is starting to pick up again. Harare is bustling, there's food on the shelves, new restaurants are popping up everywhere, people are still as happy and friendly as ever. It's great news for my family, as we love to go to Zimbabwe for holidays. Honestly still one of the best destinations for a holiday, period.

So, although an A380 seems a little rediculous, it seems as if Air Zimbabwe might become a Phoenix, reborn from its ashes.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25332 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 25293 times:

Quoting scarebus03 (Reply 6):
Whatever happened to the Air Austral order for '380s?

Airbus is still showing the order for 2 A380s on the latest orders/deliveries spreadsheet. Speculation last year seemed to indicate that they were likely to be cancelled but can't find anything official.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30993 posts, RR: 86
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 25178 times:
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Maybe it's meant to be a presidential transport for Robert Mugabe?

User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 25137 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
First it thought it was a joke but these words are coming from an Air Zimbabwe's spokesman:

It could still be a joke.

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 3):
I think the report is correct. You just have to deduct 40 from all numbers > 300

or this.


User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 25085 times:

Is Airbus THAT desperate for A380 sales?!

User currently offlinerampbro From Canada, joined Nov 2012, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 25025 times:

Due to their famous inflation levels, what is discussed as an 'A380' in Zim is actually a used A320 in all Y config, with no engines, and in NK livery.

User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 24775 times:

Jokes aside, once they abandoned the local currency, inflation has come under control, I think.

User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 24647 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...j320neo-launch-says-airbus-386084/

Read the last sentance or two of this article.......

however MSN002 can't just be flown off now, it's got no engines and hasn't flown for a number of years - would be cheap though if someone wanted to buy it!


User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 24538 times:

Seriously, I had to check my computer for the date in case I was having a senior moment and it was April. The first.

They can't afford a B735. There is no way they could afford the associated costs with an entirely new massive aircraft. If SA can't afford or need them, why would UM?



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User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 734 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 23115 times:

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 8):
This seems a little rediculous, however, Zimbabwe as a country is starting to pick up again. Harare is bustling, there's food on the shelves, new restaurants are popping up everywhere, people are still as happy and friendly as ever. It's great news for my family, as we love to go to Zimbabwe for holidays. Honestly still one of the best destinations for a holiday, period.

Indeed, that is great news. I have never been but hope to change that soon.


User currently offlineAmexair From Ethiopia, joined Sep 2009, 60 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 22688 times:

Quoting davescj (Reply 4):

They would need the A380's freights ability to carry enough Zim. Dollars to pay for it.

  


User currently offlineplaneguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 22541 times:

Does HRE even have the infrastructure to accommodate an A380? What are they thinking?

User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 22392 times:

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 8):
So, although an A380 seems a little rediculous, it seems as if Air Zimbabwe might become a Phoenix, reborn from its ashes.

What Zimbabwe ultimately needs is a stable, democratic, free government. Until fundamental changes come, there will simply not be enough stability for a long term airline to do well.

What happens the next time anything happens?

WHat amazes me - banks are willing to end to UM.

Dave



Can I have a mojito on this flight?
User currently offlinekhpn From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 22251 times:

there is simply no way this will ever come to fruition.
great laugh to start my day though!


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 732 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 22028 times:

Quoting planeguy (Reply 19):
Does HRE even have the infrastructure to accommodate an A380? What are they thinking?

They ain't!

This title is more suitable as a stand-up line ...  


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13130 posts, RR: 100
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21274 times:
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I am an enthusiast for the A380, but this makes no sense to me.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 2):
> They lease MSN002 from Airbus.
> Or they lease an A380 from AF.

Again: if true  

Those make sense as airframes.

Quoting rampbro (Reply 13):

Due to their famous inflation levels, what is discussed as an 'A380' in Zim is actually a used A320 in all Y config, with no engines, and in NK livery.

   You sure its not a used, but flying F100?

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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3213 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 21149 times:

If Air Zim got their hands on some new Antonov's or something rolling off a chinese production line (unlikely as even the Chinese US engines and I believe that's an issue) They'll be doing well. Believe this one when I see it.

25 Post contains links flyingwithfish : If you think Air Zimbabwe can seriously take on an A380, take a look at this - Air Zimbabwe Comes To The End Of The Road - http://bit.ly/zuScfu I cove
26 awacsooner : This thread has great comedic potential.
27 Post contains images BestWestern : The money for the aircraft is found it seems.... Apparantly the finance minister is in touch via gmail with a prince in Nigeria who has some money he
28 CXfirst : Hey, they could beat EK and become the first scheduled A380 operator at LGW! Even though I don't believe it will ever happen, nor do I think they shou
29 PanHAM : That was my first thought when I read the headline. Mugabe could pay this out of his pocket but why should he when he owns the state bank. However, t
30 SKAirbus : First of all they wouldn't be able to fill and A380 to LGW, also aren't there a ton of political sanctions on Zimbabwe because of Mugabe? I also know
31 B738FlyUIA : I guess that will not happen very soon. Even as mentioned in the tread I also doubt this. Maybe they can get one from EK when they have about 100 of
32 PHX787 : If they lease it, it won't be 002...but is this no longer being the flying palace?
33 TheAviator380 : A6-EDA will be 5 year old in July. UM can try getting that frame? UM can have an ambition to buy A380, so to me it is bit upsetting laughing at them o
34 SKAirbus : That is true but you haven't got a hope in hell in running an airline if you have a completely wharped business plan. Also, remember the government a
35 Bongodog1964 : The whole thing appears to be complete fantasy, a struggling airline from a struggling Country states that they are going to operate the Worlds larges
36 RWA380 : Much overcompensating for something indeed. Maybe he REALLY thinks that if he shows up at the next big wig days event. in his big shiny new plane, th
37 chieft : Well, the lease rate for an A380 is approx. 1.5 Mio USd per months. Certainly affordable for Air Zim...
38 chieft : Actually they ordered only one A380, S/N 129 with delivery 2014
39 Post contains images Stitch : Are not most of EK's planes on lease (via sale-and-lease back)? And they seem to need every A380 they have. An A380 would reinforce his "Big Man" sta
40 Post contains images chieft : Well, I got it! S/N 149 is an unknown order. MUST be Air Zim...
41 Post contains images chieft : There is a Rumour, that Air Koryo has ordered A380s too....
42 peterinlisbon : Maybe Mugabe needs a new private jet, and this is the only one big enough for his ego. Seriously though, a bankrupt airline from a bankrupt nation run
43 Post contains images Heavierthanair : G'day I guess with South Africa's Zuma trying to get hold of a 777 for his personal use this is a matter of mine is bigger than yours. One size up fro
44 Post contains images chieft : He must have a pretty small one if he needs the biggest one available...
45 Post contains images Devilfish : This does not cost as much as an A380 so it fits the bill nicely... . Could go shopping at most European destinations if it gets too hot in HRE... .
46 jfk777 : This post needs to be shut down. Cubana would be the next A380 airline if this was credible.
47 Post contains links sturmovik : Nope, Alwaleed bin Talal has sold it. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...o-invest-in-middle-east-firms.html Btw, the A380 just seems to be a repe
48 pfletch1228 : Ditto my recent experiences. Honestly, I was shocked by the rate of progress. Obviously it will take years to recover, but I am immensely pleased tha
49 peterinlisbon : Ah, now I understand. It's not for Mugabe, it's for all of his cronies that are going to take over... that's why it needs to be so big!
50 bennett123 : Do we know the new owner of 002 yet?.
51 TheRedBaron : Their are going to get the A380 that Mexicana ordered.... BTW I have a nice bridge I can sell to you real cheap... and its in Brooklyn ! TRB
52 Post contains links and images Devilfish : Saw a picture of the An-168 private jet model..... . http://m1.i.pbase.com/o5/93/329493/1...1.ADKHfnAl.DubaiAirshow2009019.jpg Perhaps development wor
53 Aesma : You forgot about 100% inflation, with that in mind a 380 becomes a ratty 732.
54 dennys : Good enough with all these jokes !
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