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Are DL 739ERs replacing 757s?  
User currently offlineDELTArodeo From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 6 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 13717 times:

Hi All...... be kind, first post ever ! thrilled to see the big Delta order for the 739-ER ...... obviously going to replace the older 757's ( especially the 75N) from Northwest. Curious... as the 739's come online, one older 757 will be removed from the fleet ?

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User currently offlineB757forever From United States of America, joined May 2010, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 13540 times:

Quoting DELTArodeo (Thread starter):
as the 739's come online, one older 757 will be removed from the fleet ?

You will be seeing the older 757-232 leaving soonest, those retirements have already started. The 757-251 (75N) aircraft are also slated for retirement but will not be the first to leave. The majority, but not all of the 737-900ER aircraft will be 757 replacements.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 13435 times:

Aircraft that are approaching cycle limits / the next heavy maintenance checks.

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6568 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 13246 times:

When is the first 737-900/ER due for Delta ?

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User currently offlinedalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2554 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week ago) and read 13077 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 3):
When is the first 737-900/ER due for Delta ?

I think they come on property sometime in Sept and in service beginning of Oct.


User currently offlinebigbird From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week ago) and read 13058 times:
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I am not sure but I think the first delivery is around the end of next month.


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User currently offlinebigbird From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week ago) and read 12937 times:
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I just found the delivery schedule. The first is in September. Then 3 for Oct, and 4 each in Nov. & Dec. Then 19 per year until all aircraft are on property. This includes 30 possible options. By the way all of these will be ETOPS equipped.


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User currently offlineUGA777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12632 times:

Does anyone know some of the initial routes they will be used on? Thanks.

User currently offlineSELMER40 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12591 times:

Quoting B757forever (Reply 1):
...these retirements have already started

According to http://www.airwaysmag.com six 757s have been retired since mid March.
501US 87,477 hours; 503US 87,872 hours; 602DL 89,259 hours, 604DL ? hours
636DL 80,555 hours; 637DL 81,590 hours.....
Also http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL9761 shows another 757 on 12 June going to KBYH, an airport normally used for parting.

[Edited 2013-06-14 13:30:38]


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User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1810 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12373 times:

Are the CNs known for any of these yet, I see none of Delta's 737-900ERs listed on any of the main production sites.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12009 times:

Quoting UGA777 (Reply 7):
Does anyone know some of the initial routes they will be used on? Thanks.

Out of ATL, on routes that typically see some combination 738/MD90/757 equipment.


User currently offlineDELTArodeo From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11736 times:

Quoting UGA777 (Reply 7):
I just found the delivery schedule. The first is in September. Then 3 for Oct, and 4 each in Nov. & Dec. Then 19 per year until all aircraft are on property. This includes 30 possible options. By the way all of these will be ETOPS equipped.

Think they'll use them to replace the 757's configured for Europe? can they make it ?


User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11683 times:

Quoting DELTArodeo (Reply 11):
Think they'll use them to replace the 757's configured for Europe? can they make it ?

No. No 739s to Europe.



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User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10646 times:

Quoting DELTArodeo (Reply 11):
Think they'll use them to replace the 757's configured for Europe?

No - the 75Es are among the newest of Delta's 757s. They aren't going anywhere for a very long time.


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8607 times:

DTW, LAX, and SLC will most likely see the 739s at first and on flights between those airports. The sizeable fleet of 757s maybe around for a long time yet like the DC-9s.


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User currently offlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8592 times:

739 replacing the 757?

From a passenger's's viewpoint, that will not happen unless they put an L2 door on them and make the F cabin at least 24!



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1633 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8534 times:

Quoting skymiler (Reply 15):
739 replacing the 757?

From a passenger's's viewpoint, that will not happen unless they put an L2 door on them and make the F cabin at least 24!

Boy, from a crew member's standpoint I agree 100%! Boarding through 2L is SO much easier. FC can settle in and get a beverage without the flight attendants always having to swim upstream.

Sadly, Boeing will never add a door there because they would lose so many seats.



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User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8287 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 16):
Sadly, Boeing will never add a door there because they would lose so many seats.

Wouldn't that be up to the airlines and not Boeing? They are the ones who decide on the configurations and interiors.



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1633 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7995 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 17):

Wouldn't that be up to the airlines and not Boeing? They are the ones who decide on the configurations and interiors

Of course the ultimate decision would rest with the airline purchasing the plane but it would require some retooling at Boeing increasing the price and would dramatically reduce the revenue potential for the airplane.

Another aircraft that is great for 2L boarding is the A330. It drives us crazy when they insist on boarding through 1L and makes things chaotic and overcrowded in the front of the plane. Most versions of DL's 767's don't have a door 2L and it is a difficult aircraft to board without drama.



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User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6679 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 18):
Quoting brilondon (Reply 17):

Wouldn't that be up to the airlines and not Boeing? They are the ones who decide on the configurations and interiors

Of course the ultimate decision would rest with the airline purchasing the plane but it would require some retooling at Boeing increasing the price and would dramatically reduce the revenue potential for the airplane.

Another aircraft that is great for 2L boarding is the A330. It drives us crazy when they insist on boarding through 1L and makes things chaotic and overcrowded in the front of the plane. Most versions of DL's 767's don't have a door 2L and it is a difficult aircraft to board without drama.


Yes, I see what you were saying. My body and mind are about 10 hours ahead of my physical time then. Yes, I agree that it is very chaotic when getting on a DL 763 in HNL, with people in the aisle trying to take up the overhead storage in the front just so they don't have to carry their life's belongings to their seat in row 30 or so. I must say that you username tells me that you know what I am talking about. I don't enjoy the arguments that ensue when my carryon was crushed under the weight of a "carry on" that did not fit the overhead bin was stuffed on top and then they tried to squeeze    the bin shut. I was in row 3.



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1633 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6381 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 19):
Yes, I see what you were saying. My body and mind are about 10 hours ahead of my physical time then. Yes, I agree that it is very chaotic when getting on a DL 763 in HNL, with people in the aisle trying to take up the overhead storage in the front just so they don't have to carry their life's belongings to their seat in row 30 or so. I must say that you username tells me that you know what I am talking about. I don't enjoy the arguments that ensue when my carryon was crushed under the weight of a "carry on" that did not fit the overhead bin was stuffed on top and then they tried to squeeze the bin shut. I was in row 3.

We try to monitor it but frequently people just ignore us. We can ask but we cannot enforce. It has been known that occasionally someone who dumped their carry on into a forward overhead bin when they were seated in row 34 and were very politely asked to place it closer to their actual seat was somehow unaware that at some point in the flight it was moved to about row 58....don't know how that happens. One of those "mysteries of flight."



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User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6180 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 20):
We try to monitor it but frequently people just ignore us. We can ask but we cannot enforce. It has been known that occasionally someone who dumped their carry on into a forward overhead bin when they were seated in row 34 and were very politely asked to place it closer to their actual seat was somehow unaware that at some point in the flight it was moved to about row 58....don't know how that happens. One of those "mysteries of flight."

  

Ah ha ha, I have seen that happen as well as removed to be gate checked by my seat partner. Thank you for that memory and I hope that you would be on a flight I am on someday.



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1633 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6146 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 21):
Ah ha ha, I have seen that happen as well as removed to be gate checked by my seat partner. Thank you for that memory and I hope that you would be on a flight I am on someday.

Back in the "bad old days" when everyone was carrying garment bags that looked like they had a corpse in there I was working a 727-100 flight. It had a coat closet that would hold about 5 bags. The closet was located right across the aisle from the galley which was amidships. This big, nasty businessman came on saw that the closet was full and threw a Level IV Hissy Fit. He threw the heavy garment bag at this very petite female flight attendant and snarled "Hey you--DO something with this." Without any emotion she whipped open the galley service door, kicked his garment bag down onto the ramp and said when she had reclosed the door--"Consider it done." He was so shocked he just sat down and never said a word. We had to lock ourselves in the cockpit because we were laughing so hard.

[Edited 2013-06-15 12:54:51]


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User currently offlineSELMER40 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days ago) and read 5599 times:

Quoting SELMER40 (Reply 8):
...going to KBYH

The 14 June issue of airwaysmag.com fleet update reports N640DL 82,886 hours was the 757 that went to KBYH. They have previously reported that two 767s and two 757s have been removed from storage and returned to service.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17503 posts, RR: 45
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days ago) and read 5583 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 13):
No - the 75Es are among the newest of Delta's 757s. They aren't going anywhere for a very long time.

I'm not so sure--they're really not used very much for their original intention; they're only dedicated to BSB and 1-2 daily transatlantic flights off season, and not many more during the summer.



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25 B757forever : The 75E aircraft will remain in the fleet. They will be getting 16 flatbed seats and expanded EC. These will become the mainstay of the premium trans
26 tommy767 : If they are ETOPS I wonder if they are trying to phase out the -212 series 757s out of LAX to Hawaii? Some were originally delivered to Singapore Airl
27 laca773 : That's a great question, Tommy. They need to do something with those 757s they use to KOA, OGG, LIH, etc.. The 753s are fine, but the 752s are in bad
28 dlramp4life : Any info on these birds? Tail numbers, etc?
29 SELMER40 : Sorry, I should have pulled out my paperwork and given them. 757s 682DA, 683DA. 767s 124DE, 126DL removed from storage in April.
30 Deltal1011man : they won't go anywhere..... at worst they would get put into a domestic configuration. Having said that they will be getting lie-flats in J and will
31 dlramp4life : Thank you very much!
32 DTWPurserBoy : DL is investing heavily in an upscale transcon product. The 75E is the perfect airplane for that. With more seats than the A320 it should be a moneyma
33 highliner2 : Can the 737-900ER make it from the West Coast to Hawaii without significant weight penalties?
34 FlyASAGuy2005 : The Delta 57s currently plowing California-Hawaii are regularly restricted so the 737s definitely will be.
35 timpdx : Gawd those 757s DL runs to Hawaii are just awful. Will never do that again. AS is so much better wth their 738 equip an can get skymiles anyways with
36 xjramper : These seem like the kind of birds to do mid to transcon routes as well as high density Florida and Carribbean routes. I don't really see these birds t
37 peachair : It'll be the 3800 series. First ship is 3801 - delivery scheduled for Mid-Sep. Reg'n will be N801DZ
38 bobnwa : What was wrong with the flight?
39 DTWPurserBoy : That is the way that I feel about working 757's on trans-Atlantic flights. But then I think back to the pre-747 days. All trans-Atlantic flights were
40 FlyASAGuy2005 : Actually, the 75Vs were among the first to get the most recent cabin refresh including Economy Comfort. I flew on one last year and found it to be ab
41 brilondon : I highly doubt there is a noticeable difference for the average flyer. The fact that it is a 739 vs 752 is not really that much different than the ot
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