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Rumor: Venezuela Will Ban B727, B732, DC9  
User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9749 times:

Hi to you all,

sorry if discussed before, but I couldn't find any results via the search engine.

I heard rumors, that from the end of 2013 Venezuela will ban all local registered B727/B732 & DC9 to improve safety.

Is it true? Any more information?

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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 940 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9753 times:
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Isn't the DC9 like the corner-stone of Venezualan aviation?

Every Venezualan pilot I meet flies or flew the DC9


User currently offlineawacsooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1882 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9651 times:

Improve safety? How?

User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9526 times:

This is not true.

Even though DC-9s are indeed being slowly retired, they will not be banned from flying in the country. Same applies for all 732s, which pretty much are the main component of airlines like Avior, Rutaca and Estelar.

This was a rumor that was later cleared. We will still be the dark sheep in South American aviation with obsolete airplanes occupying our airspace - don't worry...

797



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User currently offlineblueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2861 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9325 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 3):
This was a rumor that was later cleared. We will still be the dark sheep in South American aviation with obsolete airplanes occupying our airspace - don't worry...

..and from my nerdy, nostalgic point of view, long may it continue !   

Rgds



So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9161 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9173 times:

They keep them flying, they just remove the toilet paper holders in the rest rooms.

Are there still active 727s?



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User currently offlinecopa330200 From Panama, joined Jan 2011, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9110 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 3):
all 732s, which pretty much are the main component of airlines like Avior, Rutaca and Estelar.

let's add Venezolana to the list with 8 732, the oldest one LN 512 from 1978   . Note the rumors that Venezolana is partially owned by one of the strongest goverment leaders (Diosdado) ...



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8282 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9050 times:
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Avior Airlines flies some 732 from Valencia they are to Miami daily, they are the only 732 scheduled into Miami now.

User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4973 times:

From what I understand a NOTAM was issued saying that they can no longer fly these types from November 1, 2013. Whether it will be the same as other deadlines in the airline industry that will be extended and extended again is another question. Certainly Venezuelan carriers seem to be working hard to get "new" airplanes in to replace them right now.


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User currently offlineorl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 268 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
Are there still active 727s?

Yes, we have 3 727 active for Cargo operating for Vensecar and DHL

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 7):
Avior Airlines flies some 732 from Valencia they are to Miami daily, they are the only 732 scheduled into Miami now.

The MIA flight operates from Barcelona and soon will be operated by the 737-400

saludos


User currently offlineCoachClass From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

Probably noise abatement at the airport.

User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 531 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4223 times:

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 9):
where Conviasa is flying their A340200 ?

Madrid and Buenos Aires

Btw, does anyone know if Conviasa's ATR-42-400 is still in storage or by chance active again?



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 11):
Madrid and Buenos Aires

I though CONVIASA was banned from flying into Europe due to safety? are you sure they're back to MAD with their a340? wikipedia says this flight is operated by Orbest.


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 531 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3982 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 12):

When I checked the system it still said MAD but it may not be up to date. Thanks for the correction.

Regards,
Loran



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9720 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Well, even though I like seeing those DC-9's and 732's I do look forward to the day that Venezuelan airlines go for much newer generation aircraft. It seems Conviasa is on the right track there with their ERJ190's. I hope to see them here in CUR soon.

A388


User currently offlineorl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 268 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3576 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 11):
Madrid and Buenos Aires

Btw, does anyone know if Conviasa's ATR-42-400 is still in storage or by chance active again?

the A340 Right Now is parked in the Conviasa´s Hangars the MAD and EZE flight are flying in Air Italy 767 and Orbest A330-200.

About the ATR-42 I see very complicated to be back in service, right now is 1 ATR-72 in service with chhances of the other 2 get back in service


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

The Orbest A330 has been returned and replaced by the Air Italy B767-300(ER).


Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
User currently offlinecopa330200 From Panama, joined Jan 2011, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

there are rumors that Conviasa will order some Airbus widebody today in Paris  Wow!


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User currently offlineorl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 268 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 17):
there are rumors that Conviasa will order some Airbus widebody today in Paris

I heard something about A330-200 but let´s see! thanks for the update!

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 16):
The Orbest A330 has been returned and replaced by the Air Italy B767-300(ER).

Yes, I saw the Air Italy yesterday! thanks for the update


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9720 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

Quoting orl777 (Reply 18):
Quoting copa330200 (Reply 17):
there are rumors that Conviasa will order some Airbus widebody today in Paris

I heard something about A330-200 but let´s see! thanks for the update!

I suppose if true, they will also need to order the A320 as narrowbody replacement for fleet commonality purposes.

A388


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8942 posts, RR: 40
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

I think it was Bolivia that wanted to ban planes 20+ or 30+ years old. Not sure what the status of it is.


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User currently offlineorl777 From Venezuela, joined Jun 2005, 268 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 19):
suppose if true, they will also need to order the A320 as narrowbody replacement for fleet commonality purposes.

Well! for them this is not important, remember that Conviasa Uses Airbus, ATR, CRJ, Boeing and Embraer

Saludos Amigo


User currently offlinecopa330200 From Panama, joined Jan 2011, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

Quoting orl777 (Reply 21):
Well! for them this is not important, remember that Conviasa Uses Airbus, ATR, CRJ, Boeing and Embraer

sorry but we need to keep in mind that Conviasa is an "empresa socialista" so they don't really care about the bottom line   



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9720 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Quoting orl777 (Reply 21):
Well! for them this is not important, remember that Conviasa Uses Airbus, ATR, CRJ, Boeing and Embraer

Saludos Amigo

I didn't think of that, let's see what's going to happen.

Saludos amigo,

A388


User currently offlineflywrite From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2009, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2222 times:
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There was a story here about it recently:

http://www.airportspotting.com/venezuela-ban-older-generation-airliners/


25 A388 : Has there been more information about Conviasa's A332 order? I haven't seen any updates(?) A388
26 SJOtoLIR : The international route on 9V [BLA-PTY] 4x weekly is currently utilizing the obsolete 732. If the Government of Venezuela would ban their internationa
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