Moderators From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 514 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 81296 times:
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LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 28017 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 72775 times:
Doric owns almost 20 A380s. Majority leased to EK and a few to SQ.
However unlike traditional lessors that buys planes and has the commercial risk to find homes for them, Doric focuses on more simply the financial transaction and things like immediate sale and leaseback with airlines. They are more a broader asset management company as they also do other things including real estate investments and involvement in the energy sector.
Anyhow, its almost certain the deal here is for aircraft that already have a home, so the order might be for someone like EK exercising their 380 options under Doric's name.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
"We like the A380 as an investment, but many people still do not get it and we are happy if it remains that way."
"if the fuel price keeps on rising, more fuel efficient aircraft will become significantly more valuable, and the A380 leads the way here."
"we told Airbus that we are interested in ILFC’s A380 positions and would be pleased to hear back, even if at the back of the queue in 2016 or 2017 because I am certain it is not long before new A380 orders will start piling up."
On BA's A380 order:
"Today they have about 50 747-400s. With the industry’s growth in mind, they will need at least 50 A380s, 19 is a joke, especially as the third runway at Heathrow is a known myth. And if you take into account the planned savings from the economies of scale with Iberia and the amazing growth Brazil is leading in South America, IAG should be probably looking at 70 A380s."
icebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 675 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 69528 times:
Maybe an announcement from JetBlue about either A330's or A350's or 787's since Barger mentioned last year in China the company is looking at these a/c types for future long haul service to South America.
LGB....where you can watch the grass grow because the traffic is so slow.
CXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 66609 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8): Anyhow, its almost certain the deal here is for aircraft that already have a home, so the order might be for someone like EK exercising their 380 options under Doric's name.
The article does mention all-Y main deck, which fits EK. Although, I do find it odd that they mentioned this at all. You'd think new carriers would leave configuration info until later. While, at the same time, it seems odd to focus on that of all things, if the order was for EK.
RickNRoll From Afghanistan, joined Jan 2012, 1071 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 66301 times:
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 16): The article does mention all-Y main deck, which fits EK. Although, I do find it odd that they mentioned this at all. You'd think new carriers would leave configuration info until later. While, at the same time, it seems odd to focus on that of all things, if the order was for EK.
If the configuration is one of the most important details for the finance company, that would be the reason for it being mentioned. It means they believe this will help give a better long time value to their investment.
NAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 35
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 66233 times:
Apparently the order is from a leasing firm:-
"Airbus SAS is set to win an order for more than 10 A380 double-decker airliners valued at more than $4 billion from lessor Doric Asset Finance Ltd., people familiar with the transaction said.
Doric is scheduled to announce the deal as early as today as the 50th Paris Air Show begins, said one of the people, who asked not to be identified because the negotiations are private. The London-based company plans to outfit the superjumbo with all-economy seats on the lower deck, the person said."