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Namc YS11 Returning To Scheduled Passenger Service  
User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6383 times:

For all of the classic aircraft lovers, you might just get another chance to get a ride on one of the NAMC YS-11 aircraft. Fil-Asian Airways, an airline based in the Philippines will be launching scheduled service using the aircraft beginning on June 22. It plans a number of routes throughout the country mostly to smaller, under served destinations.

Read More Here: http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...ian-airways-takes-off-june-22.html

Here's a picture of the aircraft:



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User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 539 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6346 times:

Interesting, thanks for sharing these good news. A number of us have been following Fil-Asian in the past months. I didn't have much hope, until I heard via the ATDB newsletter that they acquired another two airframes in late May:

RP-C3585
RP-C3588

Hopefully they will keep the operation up for a while so that we can manage a trip.

Regards,
Loran



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User currently offlineawacsooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6146 times:

I wonder if these were some of the former birds that were sitting at FLL forever?

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4329 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6106 times:

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 2):
I wonder if these were some of the former birds that were sitting at FLL forever?

No, some were scrapped, a few ended up in Mexico but they don't fly anymore.
The Philippines were flooded with former JAS/ANA frames which have been operating earlier with Asian Spirit and some cargo operators, it are these frames which might now be reintroduced in service.
I was in the Philippines in may but obviously couldn't fly these YS-11s. I don't hold my breath til they actually start, the owner has been overly optimistic before, some paperwork was the problem earlier.



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

How long have they been sitting? Sounds like a nightmare waiting for a place to happen if they've been parked a while.

User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 539 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5698 times:

Long term storage doesn't worry me, its rather an airline's maintenance practice.
On the good side the Philippines have a long history of YS-11 services, I trust there is enough experienced personnell around.

I'm curious about their TCAS system. The Philippine Aviation Authority imposed a requirement that all Philippine YS-11s must be TCAS upgraded, which resulted in Airlink and Interisland Airlines grounding their aircraft. In fact, it could be some of Fil Asian's aircraft are former Airlink or Interisland.



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User currently offlineneutrino From Singapore, joined May 2012, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5503 times:

Good to hear that the old bird will still be soldiering on over the 7107 islands. Long live the YS-11!
I was lucky to be on two flights way back in 1979; on Philippine Airlines from Manila to Legaspi and back.
Don't know about now but at that time there was no door to the cockpit; only a curtain which remained drawn open most of the time. I got great birds-eye view as I was on the port aisle seat in the front rows both times.



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User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1674 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5301 times:
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I used to fly on Piedmont's YS-11As a lot. And I flew on one on Mid Pacific Air. Very nice aircraft.

Bob Bradley



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1658 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4802 times:

Having flown into MNL literally hundreds of times I was always hanging out at a window scanning for interesting airframes as we taxied out. There were several YS-11's sitting around. I wonder if they will have problems getting spare parts for these birds but I am sure glad to see a great classic airplane back in service. Nice work!


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User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4783 times:

Long term storage absolutely worries me. Seals dry up, wires get brittle, etc. Airplanes were meant to fly. It's been my experience that a 25 year old airplane that flies every day will have fewer show stopping issues than a 5 year old frame that's been sitting for 2 years.

If they can make it work, awesome. I love seeing the classics still flying, and the YS-11 is certainly a classic.


User currently offlineB727FA From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Oh I remember MidPac! Loved my flights on that plane. I collect models of each plane I've worked or flown on and this bugger is a tough one to find. I've seen the mahogany ones, but they look a little "cartoonish" to me.


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User currently offlineB757forever From United States of America, joined May 2010, 402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

Outstanding. Long live the YS-11 and the Rolls Royce Dart! Nothing sounds like a Dart.

User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1921 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4338 times:

Quoting B757forever (Reply 11):
Outstanding. Long live the YS-11 and the Rolls Royce Dart! Nothing sounds like a Dart.

I ran an airline where we once had Darts and Allisons running side by side. The Darts high pitch whine was like a European sports car vs. an American muscle car (with the Allison engine). I liked the sound of the Allison engine better, but I agree, long live the Dart!


User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2001 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 12):
I ran an airline where we once had Darts and Allisons running side by side. The Darts high pitch whine was like a European sports car vs. an American muscle car (with the Allison engine). I liked the sound of the Allison engine better, but I agree, long live the Dart!

Was that airline Wright Airlines that flew Convair 580's and 640's or the original Frontier that after acquiring Central, for a year or two flew both 580's and 600's?


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1921 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3965 times:

Quoting milesrich (Reply 13):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 12):
I ran an airline where we once had Darts and Allisons running side by side. The Darts high pitch whine was like a European sports car vs. an American muscle car (with the Allison engine). I liked the sound of the Allison engine better, but I agree, long live the Dart!

Was that airline Wright Airlines that flew Convair 580's and 640's or the original Frontier that after acquiring Central, for a year or two flew both 580's and 600's?

No, I am old, but not that old!It was joint tour operator operation in ACY using Renown CV-580's and Eagle F-27's. Passengers preferred the luxury of the F-27, but dispatch loved the performance of the CV-580 because of it's basic unrestricted performance and speed.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

I still wish Renown was around. I remember they did charters to the Bahamas from SFB using Convair 580's. My parents flew on these plenty of times.

KH



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User currently offlinesassiciai From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2013, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3761 times:

Quoting DashTrash (Reply 9):
Long term storage absolutely worries me. Seals dry up, wires get brittle, etc. Airplanes were meant to fly. It's been my experience that a 25 year old airplane that flies every day will have fewer show stopping issues than a 5 year old frame that's been sitting for 2 years.

If they can make it work, awesome. I love seeing the classics still flying, and the YS-11 is certainly a classic.

On a departure out of T3 at NAIA in 2008 on a Cebu Pacific flight to HKG, I shot a few photos of the "graveyard". with a bunch of YS11s around (and a lot of other relics, including a Constellation, several DC3s, and vintage Russian aircraft. YS11 photos below

July 2008, NAIA
July 2008, NAIA
July 2008, NAIA


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7210 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3686 times:

I just got back from MNL yesterday. I counted 4 YS-11s in a condition which might be suitable for parts in addition to the one that will operate.

User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1921 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3434 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 15):
I still wish Renown was around. I remember they did charters to the Bahamas from SFB using Convair 580's. My parents flew on these plenty of times.

KH

They were my last ride on a wonderful L-188 passenger a/c too. I believe they were the final pax Electra operator.


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 779 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 18):
They were my last ride on a wonderful L-188 passenger a/c too. I believe they were the final pax Electra operator.

Not really ...
The final operators were VARIG (full pax version) and ultimately Reeve Aleutian (albeit in Combi config).



I miss the sound of rolls royce darts and speys
User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1921 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

Quoting MHG (Reply 19):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 18):
They were my last ride on a wonderful L-188 passenger a/c too. I believe they were the final pax Electra operator.

Not really ...
The final operators were VARIG (full pax version) and ultimately Reeve Aleutian (albeit in Combi config).

OK, no argument, but do you recall when these last two operators flights were and when Renown flew their last L-188 flight? Just curious to know.


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 779 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

Varig withdraw its Elektra´s from service in 1992 and Reeve Aleutian still had a single L-188 in service (in mixed config) until closure of the airline in december 2000.

I have no info/idea about Renown. Didn´t know such an airline existed before popping up in this thread ...



I miss the sound of rolls royce darts and speys
User currently offlinejetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

The ones in Fll were all cargo conversions for Abx,, It seems to me the pressurization equipt was removed from the a/c i was told probably why i laid in the floor with a major toothache that never bothered me until an mem to msy flight


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User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1921 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Quoting MHG (Reply 21):
ply 21, posted Sun Jun 23 2013 00:34:45 your local time (19 hours 55 minutes 2 secs ago) and read 286 times:

Varig withdraw its Elektra´s from service in 1992 and Reeve Aleutian still had a single L-188 in service (in mixed config) until closure of the airline in december 2000.

I have no info/idea about Renown. Didn´t know such an airline existed before popping up in this thread ...

I flew the passenger Renown L-188 in 1998, so that is much later than Varig. As for Reeve, it is probably very close who flew pax Electras last (Reeve or Renown). Wiki does not even list Renown as an operator.


User currently offlinedforce1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

Looks like Fil-Asian Airways actually did inaugurate flights on June 22 with a service between Manila and Tablas. However, the flight was a "probing flight" that carried officials from the civil aviation authority of the Philippines who will make an evaluation of the airline's performance on the flight prior to granting it final approval to officially operate scheduled passenger service. It will take the CAAP about a week to make their decision and if successful, tickets for flights from July 1 onwards will be available for sale.

Read more and check out the photos and videos from the event here:
http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...-airways-completes-successful.html


25 DTWPurserBoy : My one and only Electra ride was on American Flyers Airlines from SAT to SFO in April, 1970. I was in the USAF going to school in Monterey. I remembe
26 L-188 : Reeve had three three Electras in service when they went under. N1968R went to Airsplay in Canada with the idea of converting hero fire tanker. 44C an
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