Coronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1294 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11143 times:
I am assuming the E-175 E2 for Skywest will need to be adjusted from 80 seats being mentioned by Embraer in 2 classes to 76 including E+ seats, to comply with scope limits for DL and United's contracted operations, or does this hint at these carriers attempting to ratchet up scope limits slightly by the 2020 time frame when the E175 E2 is supposed to get their EIS?
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Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6156 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11067 times:
Quoting Coronado (Reply 5): I am assuming the E-175 E2 for Skywest will need to be adjusted from 80 seats being mentioned by Embraer in 2 classes to 76 including E+ seats, to comply with scope limits for DL and United's contracted operations,
Quoting Coronado (Reply 5): does this hint at these carriers attempting to ratchet up scope limits slightly by the 2020 time frame when the E175 E2 is supposed to get their EIS?
Possibly. Only time will tell for that.
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vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4366 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10632 times:
Quoting rj777 (Reply 8): Maybe there's more into the development of the E175E2 than the others?
I think the larger ones are more urgent competition-wise. The E175E2 only has the MRJ s a competitor - if we discount the Sukhoi RRJ and the Antonov 158 -, and the MRJ seems to be a never-ending story of delays... Whereas the E190/195 will compete with the Bombardier CS110/130 which seem to be a more serious threat.
Thanks, I was about to open such a thread myself. However, I would extend its purpose to include any non-Airbus/Boeing order (which are mostly regionals, true, but could also be orders for MS-21, C919... Basically I'd make it a place to discuss orders for other manufacturers, in particular smaller ones that don't get the same media attention and orders that wouldn't warrant their own thread.
Quote: Bombardier announced today that VistaJet, a world-leading luxury aviation company and exclusive operator of Bombardier business aircraft, has placed firm orders for 20 Challenger 350 jets and options for an additional 20 Challenger 350 jets. The transaction for the firm aircraft order is valued at approximately $518 million US based on 2013 list prices. If all the options are exercised, the total value of the order is approximately $1.035 billion US, based on 2013 list prices.
Quote: Bombardier Aerospace announced today that it has received firm orders for 12 Global 8000 business jets from an undisclosed customer. The transaction is valued at approximately $804 million US, based on the 2013 list price for typically equipped aircraft.
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YYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1059 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4376 times:
Quoting YTZ (Reply 21): Bombardier's stock is tanking...
I wouldn't go that far... it appears to have dropped from a high at $4.75 to just under $4.55, and is now back up to $4.63(and I'd guess that the high on Tuesday was a reaction to the $1.5 billion locomotive order announced by the rail dividision).
As for the new competition announced this week, I remember a time when Embraer was undertaking a new program with much risk and few sales while Bombardier was in cruise, selling RJ's left and right. And we know how well the E-jets have done.
Nothing has really changed for the CSeries this week, and (as predicted) we on a.net and the industry continue to await first flight and real data.
But here is a question: in another thread someone mentioned that the new E2 will be priced less than the CSeries. Does anyone know what the difference is in list prices and specs (size, weight, fuel burn)?
lollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4309 times:
Heads of Agreement on Sukhoi Superjet 100 Delivery Signed between SCAC and Ilyushin Finance Co/17.06.2013
On June 17 2013 in the framework of the 50th International Paris Air Show (Le Bourget, France) Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company and Ilyushin Finance Co (IFC) signed the Heads of Agreement (HoA) for delivery of twenty Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft.
The Agreement envisages the financing by IFC of leasing of fifteen Sukhoi Superjet 100 in basic modification SSJ100/95B for the South East Asia and the Middle East customers.
Other five aircraft in Long Range modification (SSJ100/95LR) are planned for further leasing to potential customers. The Parties agreed that the deliveries to Ilyushin Finance Co would start in 2015.
Deliveries of the Russian aircraft are being financed through the dedicated Programme of the Russian Government on financial (guarantee) support for Russian industrial exports and high-tech products. The support is provided by the Government to banks extending credits to customers of Russian products.
The Sukhoi Superjet 100 (SSJ100) is the regional 100-seater aircraft of the new generation developed and manufactured by JSC Sukhoi Civil Aircraft with the participation of Alenia Aermacchi. On May 19, 2008, the SSJ100 made its first flight. The maximum cruising speed of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 is 0.81 Mach, and the cruising altitude is 12,200 m (40,000 feet). The length of the take-off strip for the base version of the aircraft is 1,731 m, for the version with the increased flight range – 2,052 m. The flight range for the base version is 3,048 km, for the version with the increased flight range – 4,578 km.
Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company
The shareholders of Sukhoi Civil Aircraft are JSC “Sukhoi” (75% – 1 share) (a UAC Company) and, as of April 7, 2009, its strategic partner – the Italian company of Alenia Aermacchi (25% + 1 share). The Sukhoi Civil Aircraft (SCA) company was founded in 2000 in order to create new models of aircraft designed for civil purposes. The head office of the company is located in Moscow. SCA also has branches on the main production sites in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Novosibirsk and Voronezh. At the present time, the company’s main project is the implementation of the programme for creating the family of the Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft.
Ilyushin Finance Co. (IFC) was founded in 1999. IFC is a member of the United Aircraft Corporation” (UAC) – the Russian aviation industry integrator. The company carries a decade of experience in the sales and leasing of the civil aircraft, it has the longstanding ties with the leading aircraft manufacturers and the strong business relations with the first-class credit institutions. IFC provides its clients with the long-term financing and the export crediting solutions creating a friendly environment for the lease and purchase of the Russian-made aircraft.
Paolo92 From Italy, joined Oct 2007, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4245 times:
Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 25): But here is a question: in another thread someone mentioned that the new E2 will be priced less than the CSeries. Does anyone know what the difference is in list prices and specs (size, weight, fuel burn)?
According to Scott Deveau from the Financial Post, the E2-Jets price spans from 46.8 million USD to 60.4 million USD.
EPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 5618 posts, RR: 40
Reply 33, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3525 times:
It is actually a bit sad that the regionals do not get that much attention at an air show. But their sales have also been quite considerate, and these airplanes fill a void the bigger planes leave open. The regionals can either serve very well as point-to-point services but can also be feeders for other operations with larger aircraft within the airline of with other airlines.
r2rho From Spain, joined Feb 2007, 3299 posts, RR: 2
Reply 34, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3424 times:
Quoting vfw614 (Reply 32): 115 ATRs - what a haul for a rather small manufacturer that had years with, IIRC, single digit deliveries during the regional jet heydays.
Not wanting to go off-topic, but ATR has a solid backlog built to cover their cashflow for the next couple years (115 ATR's is two years of backlog at current rates, in addition to their already large backlog), and it is time IMO to launch their new 90-seater. Well, Le Bourget is not over yet...
CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2364 posts, RR: 1
Reply 36, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2606 times:
Quoting someone83 (Reply 29): Three CRJ-1000 and four Q400 to Arik Air according to Bombardier
Great Did not expect the CRJ1000 to get any orders at the PAS from a new customer (Arik). Nice surprise.
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 35): So ATR secured 173 orders, including 83 firm. That's a large number?!
That's an excellent achievement, which went unnoticed by most, me thinks, due to the flurry of large orders for Airbus and Boeing aircraft. The ATR42/72 are great airplanes, so little wonder they are doing well.