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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4160 posts, RR: 36
Posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11188 times:

Haven´t seen any threat in regards to regional orders.

Here we go:

Bombardier

Odyssey disclosed as client for 10 CS100

Embraer

ILFC with a MoU for 50 Embraer E-Jet E2 (25 E-190E2, 25 E195E2)


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10335 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11205 times:

SkyWest orders 100 E-175 E2 aircraft to launch 2nd generation E-Jet program:

http://twitter.com/ATWOnline/status/346594237078462464



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10335 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11181 times:

@EmbraerSA has another LOIs wth 5 airlines in Europe, Asia, Africa and South America for 65 E-Jet E2s

http://twitter.com/e_russell/status/346595150715314176



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10335 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10762 times:

Embraer launches E-Jet E2 with deals for 365 aircraft:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ith-deals-for-365-aircraft-387226/



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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4673 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10745 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 1):
SkyWest orders 100 E-175 E2 aircraft to launch 2nd generation E-Jet program:

That is quite a number. Good for Sky West and Embraer.     


User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1166 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10626 times:
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I am assuming the E-175 E2 for Skywest will need to be adjusted from 80 seats being mentioned by Embraer in 2 classes to 76 including E+ seats, to comply with scope limits for DL and United's contracted operations, or does this hint at these carriers attempting to ratchet up scope limits slightly by the 2020 time frame when the E175 E2 is supposed to get their EIS?


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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5961 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10550 times:

Quoting Coronado (Reply 5):
I am assuming the E-175 E2 for Skywest will need to be adjusted from 80 seats being mentioned by Embraer in 2 classes to 76 including E+ seats, to comply with scope limits for DL and United's contracted operations,

Yes.

Quoting Coronado (Reply 5):
does this hint at these carriers attempting to ratchet up scope limits slightly by the 2020 time frame when the E175 E2 is supposed to get their EIS?

Possibly. Only time will tell for that.



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User currently onlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4771 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10552 times:

A bit ironic that the model with a hundred frame firm order would EIS last, behind its larger siblings which just have LoIs mostly.

[Edited 2013-06-17 08:55:18]


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User currently offlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1772 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10361 times:

Maybe there's more into the development of the E175E2 than the others?

User currently offlineNOWINYOW From Canada, joined May 2013, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10238 times:

Guy Hachey at Bombardier had an interview this weekend with The Financial Post of Canada. He's pretty optimistic about first flight of C series before the end of June.

http://business.financialpost.com/20...-air-show-2013-bombardier-cseries/


User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3946 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10115 times:

Quoting rj777 (Reply 8):
Maybe there's more into the development of the E175E2 than the others?

I think the larger ones are more urgent competition-wise. The E175E2 only has the MRJ s a competitor - if we discount the Sukhoi RRJ and the Antonov 158 -, and the MRJ seems to be a never-ending story of delays... Whereas the E190/195 will compete with the Bombardier CS110/130 which seem to be a more serious threat.


User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9924 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
Haven´t seen any threat in regards to regional orders.

Here we go:

Thanks, I was about to open such a thread myself. However, I would extend its purpose to include any non-Airbus/Boeing order (which are mostly regionals, true, but could also be orders for MS-21, C919... Basically I'd make it a place to discuss orders for other manufacturers, in particular smaller ones that don't get the same media attention and orders that wouldn't warrant their own thread.


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9768 times:
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When will Superjet announce possible new orders? (SSJ conference ... etc.)
Any info will be' appreciated, thanks.


User currently onlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12784 posts, RR: 100
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8348 times:
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Any hint on sales of the MRJ?

Quoting lollomz (Reply 12):

When will Superjet announce possible new orders? (SSJ conference ... etc.)

I've haven't seen even a whiff of a SSJ rumor.

Quoting r2rho (Reply 11):
but could also be orders for MS-21, C919...

Unlikely until they prove themselves. Right nowt he C919 is domestic Chinese only. While the MS-21 has potential, it is too early for follow up orders. I hope to be proven wrong.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10335 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6633 times:

Nordic aviation signs for 90 ATR72-600s, 35 firm orders.

http://twitter.com/tohmavis/status/346900975488999424



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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6329 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
Nordic aviation signs for 90 ATR72-600s, 35 firm orders.

90 ATR's      


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10335 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6325 times:

@EmbraerSA says #Conviasa orders 7 E-190 E1s and #JAL orders 4 E-170 E1s

http://twitter.com/e_russell/status/346915232666505217



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User currently offlinePaolo92 From Italy, joined Oct 2007, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5701 times:

Horizon Air converts 3 options to firm orders and adds 7 options all for the Q400.





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User currently offlinePaolo92 From Italy, joined Oct 2007, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

Bombardier received orders for their Business Jets:

VistaJet Places Order for Up to 40 Bombardier Business Jets

Quote:
Bombardier announced today that VistaJet, a world-leading luxury aviation company and exclusive operator of Bombardier business aircraft, has placed firm orders for 20 Challenger 350 jets and options for an additional 20 Challenger 350 jets. The transaction for the firm aircraft order is valued at approximately $518 million US based on 2013 list prices. If all the options are exercised, the total value of the order is approximately $1.035 billion US, based on 2013 list prices.
Bombardier Secures Orders for 12 Global 8000 Business Jets at the Paris Airshow

Quote:
Bombardier Aerospace announced today that it has received firm orders for 12 Global 8000 business jets from an undisclosed customer. The transaction is valued at approximately $804 million US, based on the 2013 list price for typically equipped aircraft.



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User currently offlineairboe From San Marino, joined Jan 2011, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4951 times:

ATR - order for up to 90, - 35 firm orders from NAC (Danish lessor Nordic Aviation Capital) their biggest customer.
Nice win:

EDIT:
¨SORRY HAVE BEEN POSTED

[Edited 2013-06-18 08:19:54]


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24729 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4705 times:

Indian regional operator Air Costa gets 3 E-jets - 2 E170, 1 E190.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/indias...osta-acquires-three-115300281.html


Also here are the press releases on the JAL and Conviasa orders.

JAL 4x E170 operated by J-AIR
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/embrae...oses-firm-order-jal-115100874.html

Conviasa 7x E190 (also holds options for 7 more)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/convia...se-seven-additional-105400750.html

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User currently offlineYTZ From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1947 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4673 times:

Bombardier's stock is tanking...

User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4364 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
Nordic aviation signs for 90 ATR72-600s, 35 firm orders.

Wow.... 90 planes, if all firmed up, is more than a year's worth of ATR production. Looks like ATR is headed for another great year.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10335 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Thanks to Brazilian carrier @voePASSAREDO for deciding for 20 more #ATR 72-600s, 10 firm plus 10 options! http://ow.ly/mb1kr

http://twitter.com/ATRaircraft/status/347310872990973952



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User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2359 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3778 times:

Quoting YTZ (Reply 21):

Bombardier's stock is tanking...

What else is new. First flight should kick it back up again.

Thenoflyzone

[Edited 2013-06-19 07:44:08]


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User currently offlineYYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 943 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Quoting YTZ (Reply 21):
Bombardier's stock is tanking...



I wouldn't go that far... it appears to have dropped from a high at $4.75 to just under $4.55, and is now back up to $4.63(and I'd guess that the high on Tuesday was a reaction to the $1.5 billion locomotive order announced by the rail dividision).

As for the new competition announced this week, I remember a time when Embraer was undertaking a new program with much risk and few sales while Bombardier was in cruise, selling RJ's left and right. And we know how well the E-jets have done.

Nothing has really changed for the CSeries this week, and (as predicted) we on a.net and the industry continue to await first flight and real data.


But here is a question: in another thread someone mentioned that the new E2 will be priced less than the CSeries. Does anyone know what the difference is in list prices and specs (size, weight, fuel burn)?


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3792 times:
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Heads of Agreement on Sukhoi Superjet 100 Delivery Signed between SCAC and Ilyushin Finance Co/17.06.2013


On June 17 2013 in the framework of the 50th International Paris Air Show (Le Bourget, France) Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company and Ilyushin Finance Co (IFC) signed the Heads of Agreement (HoA) for delivery of twenty Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft.
The Agreement envisages the financing by IFC of leasing of fifteen Sukhoi Superjet 100 in basic modification SSJ100/95B for the South East Asia and the Middle East customers.
Other five aircraft in Long Range modification (SSJ100/95LR) are planned for further leasing to potential customers. The Parties agreed that the deliveries to Ilyushin Finance Co would start in 2015.
Deliveries of the Russian aircraft are being financed through the dedicated Programme of the Russian Government on financial (guarantee) support for Russian industrial exports and high-tech products. The support is provided by the Government to banks extending credits to customers of Russian products.
The Sukhoi Superjet 100 (SSJ100) is the regional 100-seater aircraft of the new generation developed and manufactured by JSC Sukhoi Civil Aircraft with the participation of Alenia Aermacchi. On May 19, 2008, the SSJ100 made its first flight. The maximum cruising speed of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 is 0.81 Mach, and the cruising altitude is 12,200 m (40,000 feet). The length of the take-off strip for the base version of the aircraft is 1,731 m, for the version with the increased flight range – 2,052 m. The flight range for the base version is 3,048 km, for the version with the increased flight range – 4,578 km.

Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company

The shareholders of Sukhoi Civil Aircraft are JSC “Sukhoi” (75% – 1 share) (a UAC Company) and, as of April 7, 2009, its strategic partner – the Italian company of Alenia Aermacchi (25% + 1 share). The Sukhoi Civil Aircraft (SCA) company was founded in 2000 in order to create new models of aircraft designed for civil purposes. The head office of the company is located in Moscow. SCA also has branches on the main production sites in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Novosibirsk and Voronezh. At the present time, the company’s main project is the implementation of the programme for creating the family of the Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft.

Ilyushin Finance Co. (IFC) was founded in 1999. IFC is a member of the United Aircraft Corporation” (UAC) – the Russian aviation industry integrator. The company carries a decade of experience in the sales and leasing of the civil aircraft, it has the longstanding ties with the leading aircraft manufacturers and the strong business relations with the first-class credit institutions. IFC provides its clients with the long-term financing and the export crediting solutions creating a friendly environment for the lease and purchase of the Russian-made aircraft.


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3903 times:
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Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company and AeroLease Singed Letter of Intent /19.06.2013

http://www.scac.ru/en/mediacenter/su...-letter-of-intent-19-06-2013/2013/


User currently offlinePaolo92 From Italy, joined Oct 2007, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3728 times:

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 25):
But here is a question: in another thread someone mentioned that the new E2 will be priced less than the CSeries. Does anyone know what the difference is in list prices and specs (size, weight, fuel burn)?

According to Scott Deveau from the Financial Post, the E2-Jets price spans from 46.8 million USD to 60.4 million USD.

He analyzes the Air Canada narrowbody re-fleeting and the possible contenders (737MAX, E2-Jets, CSeries and A320neo).
Here's the link to the article: Air Canada has array of choices to replace narrow-body fleet

The CS100 costs 67 million USD and 73 million USD for the larger variant (always according to the article).



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3285 posts, RR: 3
Reply 29, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Three CRJ-1000 and four Q400 to Arik Air according to Bombardier

User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 30, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

Quoting lollomz (Reply 26):
deliveries to Ilyushin Finance Co would start in 2015.

surprisingly late. It's not like SSJ has hundreds of orders filled... but then again, at the current very-low rate production, that may indeed be the current waiting time for a SSJ   

Quoting lollomz (Reply 27):
Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company and AeroLease Singed Letter of Intent /19.06.2013

LOI for what? The press release doesn't mention any number of aircraft, very vague...


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10335 posts, RR: 30
Reply 31, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

U.S. leasing company @AirLeaseCorp orders 5 #ATR 72-600s, bringing their portfolio of ATRs up to 21 aircraft! #PAS13 http://ow.ly/mdc38

http://twitter.com/ATRaircraft/status/347641152779997185



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User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3946 posts, RR: 5
Reply 32, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

115 ATRs - what a haul for a rather small manufacturer that had years with, IIRC, single digit deliveries during the regional jet heydays.

User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4673 posts, RR: 38
Reply 33, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3008 times:
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It is actually a bit sad that the regionals do not get that much attention at an air show. But their sales have also been quite considerate, and these airplanes fill a void the bigger planes leave open. The regionals can either serve very well as point-to-point services but can also be feeders for other operations with larger aircraft within the airline of with other airlines.  

User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 34, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 32):
115 ATRs - what a haul for a rather small manufacturer that had years with, IIRC, single digit deliveries during the regional jet heydays.

Not wanting to go off-topic, but ATR has a solid backlog built to cover their cashflow for the next couple years (115 ATR's is two years of backlog at current rates, in addition to their already large backlog), and it is time IMO to launch their new 90-seater. Well, Le Bourget is not over yet...   


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10335 posts, RR: 30
Reply 35, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

So ATR secured 173 orders, including 83 firm. That's a large number?!

http://twitter.com/ATRaircraft/status/347647818124632065



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 36, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2089 times:
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Quoting someone83 (Reply 29):
Three CRJ-1000 and four Q400 to Arik Air according to Bombardier

Great  Did not expect the CRJ1000 to get any orders at the PAS from a new customer (Arik). Nice surprise.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 35):
So ATR secured 173 orders, including 83 firm. That's a large number?!

That's an excellent achievement, which went unnoticed by most, me thinks, due to the flurry of large orders for Airbus and Boeing aircraft. The ATR42/72 are great airplanes, so little wonder they are doing well.



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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 36):
So ATR secured 173 orders, including 83 firm. That's a large number?!

That's an excellent achievement, which went unnoticed by most, me thinks, due to the flurry of large orders for Airbus and Boeing aircraft.

Really remarkable. They have already had an extraordinary past couple of years, but it seems 2013 will break even more records for them.

Their backlog is assured until the end of 2016. Note that in 2012 ATR delivered 64 aircraft, and I guess we can assume a ramp-up.

Here's their sum-up press-release:
http://www.atraircraft.com/newsroom/...ress-releases-details-1224-en.html


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