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787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16  
User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4391 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46677 times:
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Due to length of part 15, here is part 16.

Part 15: 787 Production/delivery Thread Part 15 (by iowaman May 24 2013 in Civil Aviation)


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD. Return: US SJD-PHX, WN PHX-MDW-DSM
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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46696 times:

Not a terrible way to open up a new thread: the 787-9 engines have been delivered by RR. Looks like ZB001 may roll out with engines after all.



Courtesy of RR:
http://www.rolls-royce.com/news/pres...13/19062013_787_9_first_flight.jsp


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46656 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 1):
Not a terrible way to open up a new thread: the 787-9 engines have been delivered by RR. Looks like ZB001 may roll out with engines after all.

Was there any doubt about that? The 787-9 program is a complete 180 from when ZA001 was at this point in its final assembly process.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 46564 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):
Was there any doubt about that?

It has been indicated that the first set of Package C engines are actually not even going on ZB001 but ZA004 for testing and that was not supposed to happen until later in July (see article below). If that was the case then I thought there was a chance that it would roll out without engines until a second set were delivered or they will fit ZB001 with Package B engines as they are already rated for 70klbf and swap them out for package C engines later. If I am not mistaken the primary difference in engines is the furl burn anyway. The article linked above specifically said that the engines they were delivering was going to be used on first flight.

Here is the background on the ZA004 getting the first set of RR Package C engines:
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....l/avd_06_12_2013_p01-02-587117.xml

tortugamon


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 46452 times:

Per NYC777:
ZA576 flew a second flight (C-2) this evening but is now being routed from Moses Lake to Boeing Field, anyone know why?

The flight earlier today was a B-2 -- simple up and down to clear previous squawks. The second flight to KMWH and back was the C-1 as identified by the speed and altitude graph -- constant 15,000ft with airspeed deviations prior to descent into KMWH. Return was to KPAE -- initial route to KBFI was a mistake.


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 46413 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 4):

Per NYC777:
ZA576 flew a second flight (C-2) this evening but is now being routed from Moses Lake to Boeing Field, anyone know why?

I think this showed up incorrectly in Flightaware.
Looks like it was consequently fixed:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20130623/0200Z/KMWH/KPAE


tortugamon


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7474 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 46409 times:

When is the next NH delivery due?


次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 46388 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
When is the next NH delivery due?

hkcanadaexpat projected the following ANA deliveries up thread.

1) LN 107 / ZA 514 / JA-821A (June/July 2013) *looks like July
2) LN 110 / ZA 121 / JA-822A (July 2013)
3) LN 120 / ZA 122 / JA-823A (August 2013)
4) LN 132 / ZA 515 / JA-824A (November/December 2013)
5) LN 140 / ZA 123 / JA-825A (January/February 2014) * Charleston
6) LN 147 / ZA 124 / JA-827A (January/February 2014)
7) LN 148 / ZA 516 / JA-828A (January/February 2014)

tortugamon


User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 46165 times:
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Quoting tortugamon (Reply 5):
I think this showed up incorrectly in Flightaware.

Correct - flew B2 around noon and C1 in the late afternoon.
I am told if it requires C2 it will happen early Sunday.

Delivery to happen late in the week.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 45912 times:

From BA's Twitter account:

"The ETA for the 787 on the 26th June is 10.20AM and for the 27th is 11.25AM"



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 45646 times:

ZA434 is finally on its way to FTW for painting:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130623/1415Z/KCHS/KFTW



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2741 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 45560 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 10):

Gonna try to go down and film the arrival.  



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 45529 times:

You might also spot a painted Air India frame (LN91).


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User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1646 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 45120 times:

What is the off the line production total at this point. With both Washington and SC birds.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 45118 times:

Seven frames per month.


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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2741 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 44979 times:

At FTW. LN91 is indeed here.  


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 43770 times:

ZA576 scheduled for another customer flight:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20130623/2200Z/KPAE/KPAE



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 43464 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 16):

ZA576

This has to be one of the worst 787 liveries yet.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/9111470187/

tortugamon


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 43424 times:

Looks like BAB ZA450 is on the way back from KMWH on its C-1:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE450


User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2741 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 43153 times:

And here it is. LN85 landing at FTW, today. Unbelievably quiet!   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPYz3DJ0jw



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 43067 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 19):

Nice job KPDX. Great video.

tortugamon


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 42571 times:

Big week ahead with potentially 3 new airlines taking delivery of 787s before the end of the month.

Next up...

Deliveries:
> B-2722 (Hainan Airlines #1) (@ Charleston) -> 25 jun
> G-ZBJA (British Airways #1) -> 25 jun
> G-ZBJB (British Airways #2) -> 26 jun
> EI-LNA (Norwegian #1/ILFC #1) -> 27 jun

First Flights:
> B-2728 (Hainan Airlines #3) ->not "first" flight but first since Jan 8, 2013
> JA-832J (Japan Airlines #10)
> B-2734 (China Southern #3) (@ Charleston)
> A7-BCE (Qatar Airways #7)
> B-27?? (China Southern #4) -> not painted. maybe to be painted in Texas

FAL Rollout:
> VH-VKA (Qantas/Jetstar #1)
> B-2736 (China Southern #7) (@ Charleston)
> N963AM (Aeromexico #3/ILFC #5)

Cheers
A


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 42489 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 21):
> N963AM (Aeromexico #3/ILFC #5)

Is that AM #2 / ILFC #4?

tortugamon


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 42210 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 22):
Is that AM #2 / ILFC #4?

LN 122 (AM #2) has completed assembly. Its temporarily being stored inside the FAL (where there's room these days!) awaiting its turn outside. should be imminently as LN 118 (LAN) comes out of paint and LN 121 (BA) goes into paint, making room for it.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
When is the next NH delivery due?

ANA aircraft positioning at PAE is out of sync so not that easy to predict the sequencing and timing. JA-821A is sitting on the 748 flightline. JA-822A is in storage at the EMC and JA-823A is actually on the flightline. So July should see JA-821A at the very least. Whether JA-823A skips JA-822A and makes it two deliveries for July, we shall wait and see if it stays on the flightline and goes through the motions or is just there temporarily and then gets moved to storage to make space for ealier built frames.

United N29907 and ANA JA-823A are both on the flightline out of sync right now having jumped JA-822A, EI-LNB, G-ZBJC and N961AM. Time will tell whether they are actually jumping or just temporarily hanging out post painting.

A


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 42127 times:

EI-LNA, Norwegian's #1 will land in Oslo on Sunday June 30th which entails a departure on June 29th from PAE.
(in Norwegian unfortunately)
http://www.aftenposten.no/okonomi/No...nne-uken-7238769.html#.UcgrXOARtbw

A


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 42278 times:

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 63 Aircraft to 10 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO JUNE
NH-19; JL-8; AI-6; UA–6; QR-5; ET-4; LO-3; LA-3; BY-2; CZ-1

JUNE DELIVERIES
L/N 96 - G-TUIC – 6/12/2013 – BY #3
L/N 98 – JA831J – 6/12/2013 - JL #9
L/N 99 - A7-BCD – 6/14/2013 - QR #6 (Paris Air Show)
L/N 72 - VT-ANM – 6/18/2013 - AI #7
L/N 101 - JA820A - 6/20/2013 - NH #20
L/N 87 - SP-LRD – 6/21/2013 – LO #4

AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY
L/N 76 - B-2722 – 6/25/2013 - HU #1
L/N 111 – G-ZBJB - 6/25/2013 - BA #1
L/N 108 – G-ZBJA - 6/26/2013 - BA #2
L/N 102 – EI-LNA - 6/27/2013 - DY #1 (ILFC)
L/N 95 - B-2733 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #2
L/N 90 - VT-ANN – 6/xx/2013 - AI #8 (Paris Air Show)
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – 7/xx/2013 - AI #9
L/N 43 - B-2727 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #3
L/N 81 - B-2723 – x/xx/2013 - HU #2
L/N 73 - B-2728 – x/xx/2013 - HU #3
L/N 85 - B–2724 - x/xx/2013 - HU #4
L/N 79 - B-2730 – x/xx/2013 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 93 - B-2732 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 39 - ET-AOO – xx/xx/2013 - ET #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 100 - B-2735 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 88 - SP-LRE – 8/20/2013 – LO #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 103 - A7-BCE – x/xx/2013 - QR #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 105 – JA832J – x/xx/2013 - JL #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 106 - G-TUID – x/xx/2013 – BY #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 107 - JA821A - 7/xx/2013 - NH #21 Awaiting first flight
L/N 110 - JA822A - x/xx/2013 - NH #22 Awaiting first flight
L/N 112 – EI-LNB - 7/xx/2013 - DY #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - x/xx/2013 - BA #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 104 - B-2736 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #6 Awaiting first flight
L/N 115 – N961AM - 8/xx/2013 - AM #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 109 - A7-BCF – x/xx/2013 - QR #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 116 - A7-BCG – x/xx/2013 - QR #9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 117 – N29907 – x/xx/2013 – UA #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 118 - CC-BBE - 8/xx/2013 - LA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 121 – G-ZBJD - x/xx/2013 - BA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 120 - JA823A - 8/xx/2013 - NH #23 Awaiting first flight
L/N 113 - CC-BBD - 8/xx/2013 - LA #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 30 - VT-ANE – x/xx/2013 - AI #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 36 - B-2726 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 122 – N????? - x/xx/2013 - AM #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 26, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 42183 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 25):
L/N 85 - B–2724 - x/xx/2013 - HU #4

The Chinese aren't making it easy on us with their regs... Not much order in the rank and file. It seems that LN 85 is actually B-2730. Whether that means that LN 79 is B-2724, i don't know...
A


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 27, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 42557 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 26):
The Chinese aren't making it easy on us with their regs... Not much order in the rank and file. It seems that LN 85 is actually B-2730. Whether that means that LN 79 is B-2724, i don't know...
A

Talk about moving target...I don't think anyone knows how they will end up until they are delivered...


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 28, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 42076 times:

Looks like VT-ANN came back from PAS and today its on its way back to PAE from BFI.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20130624/1600Z/KBFI/KPAE

The flight line appears pretty full so I wonder where the will put her. AI announced new service to BHX August 1 so maybe that is what this aircraft is destined for? I have also read that VT-ANO was going to be delivered in July too so maybe it will be only one or the other? That is on its way back to Charleston from FTW:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130624/2130Z/KFTW/KCHS

No planned C-1 for B-2733 (LN 95)? I thought they rushed that through paint to get it ready for CZ. Thought we would see a C-1 this week.

Hands are full I guess. 4 aircraft to deliver to 3 new customers would be a solid week.

tortugamon

[Edited 2013-06-24 12:53:56]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 29, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 41994 times:

ZA243 / LN91 scheduled to fly back to CHS today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130624/2130Z/KFTW/KCHS



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 30, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 41827 times:

With ZA242, ZA243 boith back at their respective delivery center site (Everett and Charleston) I wonder ig AI can pick these two up by the end of this week though it is very, VERY tight, I realize. Still......


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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 31, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 41752 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 30):
I wonder ig AI can pick these two up by the end of this week

Its good to see another optimist.   A had a good point though that AI tends to give notice on what the route it will be used on and the next route that I see being advertised is not until August 1st. We will see.

tortugamon


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 32, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 41718 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 29):
ZA243 / LN91 scheduled to fly back to CHS today:

I was wondering...SC to TX is a long way to fly for a paint job...do the pilots do any sort of testing on the way?


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 33, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 41692 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 32):
SC to TX is a long way to fly for a paint job

I think one of the items involved in the $1.1 Billion SC investment involves an expansion of the paint facility so hopefully they will not have to make this flight for too many more years.

tortugamon


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 34, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 41618 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 32):
I was wondering...SC to TX is a long way to fly for a paint job...do the pilots do any sort of testing on the way?

Since they're only doing one flight prior to the paint flight they should be at least checking any open squawks from the B-1 on the flight to KFTW. However, I'm guessing they probably don't have the extra personnel at KFTW to fix any squawks from the incoming flight so they can be checked on the flight back to KCHS. It all depends on the ticket they get from the FAA for the flight to paint and back. If it's under a production ticket, no problem. With a ferry permit they might be restricted from doing any testing.


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 35, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 40798 times:

B-2733 China Southern #2 just filed for its C1 in about one hour.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE384
Theoretically still time for a June delivery!
A


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 36, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 40779 times:

Anyone know anything about BA possibly delaying the delivery of their '87s due to some sort of "seat issue"?


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 37, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 40530 times:

Looks like ZA450 is going on another customer flight:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE450



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 38, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 40284 times:

Perhaps they already fixed the seat issue? Whatever it was.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 39, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 40213 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 38):
Perhaps they already fixed the seat issue? Whatever it was.

Yeah something I saw in another thread but very, very vague.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 40, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 39936 times:

Now 451 is planning a customer flight back to PAE as well. Interesting that it is still using a Boeing call sign.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE451

tortugamon


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 41, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 39934 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 35):
Theoretically still time for a June delivery!

Come on lucky number 11!

tortugamon


User currently offlinestarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 39908 times:

I thought 451 was already delivered?


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 43, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 39886 times:

Quoting starrion (Reply 42):
I thought 451 was already delivered?

It looks a bit premature.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 44, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 39978 times:

Our beloved Matt tweets:

"British Airways 787 G-ZBJB scheduled for delivery flight PAE to LHR Tuesday at 5 p.m."

http://twitter.com/mattcawby



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 45, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 39927 times:

Looks like ZA450 is about to fly. Listening to PAE ATC and ZA450 just took off. Perhaps the listing for BOE 451 is actually supposed to be 450 and 451 was done in error. Wouldn't have been the first time.

[Edited 2013-06-25 13:18:03]


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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 46, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 39882 times:

You would not need to do another test flight if all they did was fix a seat issue right? Could it be the IFE system had to change with the seat issue and that would require a quick EWA flight? I would not think you would have to go to MWH though.

tortugamon


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 47, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 39881 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 46):
You would not need to do another test flight if all they did was fix a seat issue right? Could it be the IFE system had to change with the seat issue and that would require a quick EWA flight? I would not think you would have to go to MWH though.

I don't think 451 is flying today except on its delivery flight later tonight. ZA450 is flying right now and Ithink someone accidently used 451 instead of 450 when the latest flightaware alert popped up.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 48, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 39860 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 47):

Gotcha. There has been a decent amount of instances of fat fingers lately.

tortugamon


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 49, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 39735 times:

Very confusing. No longer a flight plan for ZA450 and now ZA451 looks to be doing a C-2 down the coast and back.

Nevermind

[Edited 2013-06-25 13:55:51]

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 50, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 39715 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 49):
Very confusing. No longer a flight plan for ZA450 and now ZA451 looks to be doing a C-2 down the coast and back.

Yeah it's ZA450 that's flying right now. 451 is still on the ground at PAE.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 51, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 39604 times:

Based on NYC777's blog it looks like ZB001 (the first 787-9) has moved to position 3 inside 40-24 and parts have started to arrive for ZB-002. I imagine we will not get pictures until roll out but I have my fingers crossed for earlier.

tortugamon


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 52, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 39505 times:

From Matt:

Engine nacelles are up on G-ZBJB not looking good for a delivery flite tonite
https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/349666497116905472

tortugamon


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 53, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 39181 times:

From Matt:

G-ZBJB delivery flight rescheduled for late Wednesday afternoon June 26, BJA delivery flight on Thursday or Friday.

https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/349706433664790529

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 54, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 38686 times:

Aeromexico N964AM is in paint. Is this LN122? For some reason, they skipped N962AM and N963AM.



Here is another picture:
http://paineairport.com/kpae6423.htm



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7474 posts, RR: 18
Reply 55, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 38604 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 44):
"British Airways 787 G-ZBJB scheduled for delivery flight PAE to LHR Tuesday at 5 p.m."
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 53):
G-ZBJB delivery flight rescheduled for late Wednesday afternoon June 26, BJA delivery flight on Thursday or Friday.

This of course probably depends on the weather both in LHR and in PAE.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 54):
Aeromexico N964AM is in paint. Is this LN122? For some reason, they skipped N962AM and N963AM.

Looks beautiful   



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Reply 56, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 38552 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 54):

Aeromexico N964AM is in paint. Is this LN122? For some reason, they skipped N962AM and N963AM.

Yes, it is odd. In reply #22 when I asked A about it he said it was (N963AM (Aeromexico #3/ILFC #5)) but I think there was some miscommunication as I thought it was AM #2/ILFC #4. Definitely some confusion.

Now that it is out in the air, it is not as bad looking as I originally thought. Kinda like it. Especially because its windows are not all taped up like her sister. I bet they change the order around on delivery too as this looks like it is on the flightline now.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 57, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 38545 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 56):
Now that it is out in the air, it is not as bad looking as I originally thought. Kinda like it. Especially because its windows are not all taped up like her sister. I bet they change the order around on delivery too as this looks like it is on the flightline now.

I only wonder why they did not paint the engine nacelles in blue.




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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 58, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 38531 times:

It definitely would have been better. Hot and high I guess.

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Actually scratch that. Laminar flow should not impact thrust just fuel burn.

[Edited 2013-06-26 01:59:51]

User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 59, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 38369 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 54):
Aeromexico N964AM is in paint. Is this LN122? For some reason, they skipped N962AM and N963AM.

N964AM is LN 122. LN 127 will be N965AM and LN 155 will be N966AM. The regs have been reserved by ILFC.

Oddly enough, N962AM has been reserved by an Italian private guy and N963AM is an active Dolphin owned by a Florida guy. that's why those numbers were skipped.

A


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 60, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 38114 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 35):
B-2733 China Southern #2 just filed for its C1 in about one hour.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE384
Theoretically still time for a June delivery!

Another customer flight scheduled for today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130626/1300Z/KCHS/KCHS

Someone is in a hurry      



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 61, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 38040 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 54):
Aeromexico N964AM is in paint. Is this LN122? For some reason, they skipped N962AM and N963AM.

Yes it is.



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User currently offlinedc1030cf From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 37782 times:
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Rumor has that CAAC wants CZ to receive their 2nd one before letting HU fly their first Dream back to China. HU has already delay the inaugural flight to PEK

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 63, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 37771 times:

Well that could explain the flight activity around ZA384.


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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 64, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 37626 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 63):
Well that could explain the flight activity around ZA384.

Most likely B flights with an issue of some sort in cruise -- possibly an air leak or aero noise -- note speed variations during profile.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 65, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 37308 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 60):
Another customer flight scheduled for today:

They are not done yet, another flight is scheduled for later today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130626/1800Z/KCHS/KMYR

This one will last 2 hours.



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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 66, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 37261 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 65):
They are not done yet, another flight is scheduled for later today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130626/1800Z/KCHS/KMYR

This one will last 2 hours

This is probably the C-1.


User currently offlineBA677 From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 36999 times:

Is the BA787 delivery flight still going ahead 2day?

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Reply 68, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 36887 times:
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Here are a few photos taken yesterday by the CZ pilot for accepting B-2733 from Boeing - Charleston.
Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1067 File size: 254kb
Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1067 File size: 245kb
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[Edited 2013-06-26 13:05:39]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 69, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 36715 times:

Very nice, thanks for sharing!


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 70, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 36738 times:

And here is the first BA delivery flight:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20130627/0115Z/KPAE/EGLL



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User currently offlineDeltaB717 From Australia, joined Jun 2012, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 36214 times:
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So all CZ 787s will have the special c/s then? Or will they do just the first couple like NH did with 801A and 802A?

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 72, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 36250 times:

It looks like both ZA450 and ZA451 are flying to Heathrow tonight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW9152
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW787



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 73, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 36023 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 72):
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW787

Looks like L/N 111 – G-ZBJB is on it's way!


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Reply 74, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 36029 times:
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A few more photos of B-2733 (BOE384) today's C-1 flight........enjoy


User currently offlinejet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 872 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days ago) and read 35873 times:

What line number is the first -9?

Thanks


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 76, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days ago) and read 35860 times:

Quoting jet-lagged (Reply 75):
What line number is the first -9?

126

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 77, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 35671 times:

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 71):
So all CZ 787s will have the special c/s then? Or will they do just the first couple like NH did with 801A and 802A?

All 10 will get the special livery.



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User currently offlineDeltaB717 From Australia, joined Jun 2012, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 35578 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 77):
Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 71):So all CZ 787s will have the special c/s then? Or will they do just the first couple like NH did with 801A and 802A?

All 10 will get the special livery.

Thanks! BTW I'm not complaining, I like it a lot!  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 79, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 35505 times:

Quoting dc1030cf (Reply 74):
A few more photos of B-2733 (BOE384) today's C-1 flight........enjoy

Excellent, thanks. I guess delivery is imminent, followed by HU.

http://atwonline.com/airframes/haina...ines-debut-boeing-787-debut-july-3



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Reply 80, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 35065 times:

Looks like EI-LNA (LN 102) is being delivered today and Matt C has a picture up of the delivery center being primed for the ceremony later today. Two new customers back-to-back days and it could get even better than that in the coming days if the Chinese come through as well. Exciting week.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 81, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 35032 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 79):
followed by HU

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20130627/1430Z/KCHS/KCAE



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User currently offlinestarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 82, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 34963 times:

So June finished off with either 11 or 12 depending on whether or not Air India decides to take a frame home.

July looks promising given that there are still 31 frames built, but most haven't even had a first flight yet. Hopefully we will see a lot of B-1 flights over the next week.



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User currently offlineHmelawyer From United States of America, joined May 2011, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 83, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 34960 times:

Crazy to see that after all of the end of month deliveries there will only be one frame left at Everett that has flown with the battery fix and not delivered (VT-ANN, LN90 that was used for PAS). LN 43 and LN73 flew before the grounding, but have not flown with the fix. Looks like we will get to see a lot of B-1 flights (or first flight after fix) in the next couple weeks in order to accomplish July deliveries. Probably just b/c of the backlog they have had since grounding lifted, but I had gotten used to having a number of frames in the test pipeline at any given time.

User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 84, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 34935 times:

Quoting starrion (Reply 82):
So June finished off with either 11 or 12 depending on whether or not Air India decides to take a frame home.

Its actually most likely going to be 10. If China has decided to sequence CSN #2 before HAI #1 and CSN #2 gets delivered friday, it leaves no room for HAI #1 before the end of the month (last business day being friday). We may be lucky and get 11 if stars align in Beijing. Air India hasn't flown a customer flight on either one of the ready aircraft so delivery won't happen in next 48 hours.

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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 85, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 34684 times:

BA ZA450 out on a C-3, getting tight on delivery:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE450


User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 587 posts, RR: 3
Reply 86, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 34444 times:

Quoting starrion (Reply 82):
depending on whether or not Air India decides to take a frame home.
Quoting Hmelawyer (Reply 83):
only be one frame left at Everett that has flown with the battery fix and not delivered (VT-ANN, LN90 that was used for PAS)
Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 84):
Air India hasn't flown a customer flight on either one of the ready aircraft so delivery won't happen in next 48 hours.

Air India is back in the financial markets looking for $500MM in bridge financing to fund its next batch of 787's. The deadline for the RFP is July 5. So, it doesn't look like any AI frames will deliver until after the bids are assessed, approved, documented, closed and then funded. Lots of folks will make money along the way; just not Boeing. Per a WSJ article "The new loan will be for six months to a year, and the five planes will arrive in July-December..."



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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5410 posts, RR: 4
Reply 87, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 34286 times:

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 86):
"The new loan will be for six months to a year, and the five planes will arrive in July-December..."

Five aircraft? Boeing currently has seven Air India aircraft in inventory, with an eighth to be built sometime late in the year. I suppose maybe a couple of the frames currently in the EMC won't make it out by then?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 88, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 34249 times:

Or they won't find the money for more aircraft during the July-December period.

[Edited 2013-06-27 12:39:51]


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 89, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 34197 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 87):
I suppose maybe a couple of the frames currently in the EMC won't make it out by then?

One already has and is waiting to be delivered and I believe 4 more will come out of EMC for delvivery this year along with 2 more new builds that are already built and flight tested (just need customer flights).



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 90, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 34174 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 89):
One already has

Actually 2, LN32 finished change incorporation in March or April and is currently being stored on runway 11-29 while LN30 rolled out in the beginning of the month.



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7475 posts, RR: 17
Reply 91, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 34070 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 85):
BA ZA450 out on a C-3, getting tight on delivery:

See the C3 flight was shorter (372 miles) than both its C2 flight (740 miles) and what was planned for the C3 flight (704 miles). Not sure if that's a good sign (because everything was obviously OK) or a bad thing (because problem persisted so flight was truncated),


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 92, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 34029 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 91):
See the C3 flight was shorter (372 miles) than both its C2 flight (740 miles) and what was planned for the C3 flight (704 miles). Not sure if that's a good sign (because everything was obviously OK) or a bad thing (because problem persisted so flight was truncated),

Simple answer: If it flies again it was a bad thing, if it doesn't fly again it was a good thing. Time will tell. I've seen it go both ways.


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Reply 93, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 33769 times:

JO at WSJ has suggested that the Surge Line will only be used for the 787-9 until flight tests are finished: https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/350380951542562816

Also, a new photo of the 787-9 has popped up in a NZ newspaper.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10892963

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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 94, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 33791 times:

Here is another image of the -9. Engines are attached.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/aviation/n...cle.cfm?c_id=556&objectid=10892865

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[Edited 2013-06-27 16:02:39]

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30908 posts, RR: 87
Reply 95, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 33707 times:
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Quoting tortugamon (Reply 93):
JO at WSJ has suggested that the Surge Line will only be used for the 787-9 until flight tests are finished...

Hasn't that been the plan for some time? That way they could fix squawks without affecting customer 787-8 frames. I seem to recall reading such on this forum.

[Edited 2013-06-27 16:12:31]

User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 96, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 33688 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 95):
Hasn't that been the plan for some time?

This is the first I had heard of it from someone who was not just speculating but it makes sense. All things 787 has LN 142, 143, etc as destined for 40-24 but I am sure that change will be made. No reason to add -8s to the 40-24 line if 40-26 can do the 7/month that they need to by the end of the year.

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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 97, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 33404 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 93):
JO at WSJ has suggested that the Surge Line will only be used for the 787-9 until flight tests are finished: https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/350380951542562816

No that isn't what Jon is saying. He's saying that 40-24 TSL will be used for final assembly of the -9 until all flight test -9s have been assembled not when the -9 flight tests are done.

This is his tweet:

"LN127 is first with new tooling on line 1. Surge is only -9s until after flight test jets are done."

[Edited 2013-06-27 18:59:11]


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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 98, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 33330 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 97):

Ah ok. I misunderstood. So the line will go back to producing -8s after the first 3 frames and then it looks like -8s and -9s will be interchanged with each other on either line.

Edward Russel is in Everett today and he posted a picture of G-ZBJC and a LAN aircraft (CC-BBD or CC-BBE) on one of the production lines; I assume it is 40-24 but it looks like these are in positions that could be occupied by ZB001 not to mention they are facing straight ahead and I believe 3 & 4 are at an angle. Any ideas why these were brought back in just like they did with Aeromexico a couple weeks back?

Here is a link to the image:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/erussell1984/9155495558/lightbox/

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User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 99, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days ago) and read 33222 times:

EI-LNA (Norwegian #1) has been delivered today (27-Jun) to ILFC.
Handover from ILFC to Norwegian on Friday (28-Jun).
Fly out Saturday (29-Jun) afternoon from PAE to OSL (arrival morning of 30-Jun).
Cheers
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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 100, posted (1 year 2 months 3 days ago) and read 33244 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 98):
CC-BBD

Another picture, confirmed it is CC-BBD.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/erussel...9153301731/sizes/o/in/photostream/

I thought BBD was an aircraft manufactured in Charleston though

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[Edited 2013-06-27 20:53:29]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 101, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 32879 times:

The Mother of All Tools Tower is now gone in 40-46:

Quote:
LN127 is first with new tooling on line 1. Surge is only -9s until after flight test jets are done.

http://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/350380951542562816



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 102, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 33048 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 98):
Any ideas why these were brought back in just like they did with Aeromexico a couple weeks back?

Battery change?

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 98):
I assume it is 40-24

This is definitely 40-26.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 95):
Hasn't that been the plan for some time? That way they could fix squawks without affecting customer 787-8 frames. I seem to recall reading such on this forum.

Yes the whole idea behind the surge line is to assist a smooth introduction of the -9 without delaying production of the -8.

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 94):
Here is another image of the -9. Engines are attached.

I wonder when that picture was taken. Because it shows ZB001 in position 2 with two -8s in position 3 and 4 while NYC777's blog claims it should be in position 3 with no further -8s in 40-24.

[Edited 2013-06-28 00:33:09]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 103, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 33008 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 101):
The Mother of All Tools Tower is now gone in 40-46:

Here is a picture of the new tooling in position 1:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNzPrbjCQAA1oN3.jpg:large

http://twitter.com/e_russell/status/350383216055697409/photo/1



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 104, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 32938 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 102):
Battery change?

Could be but they are both May aircraft so I thought that was figured out by then. Guess not. Only explanation I can come up with.


Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 102):
This is definitely 40-26.

It really looks like it but since when was a BA bird (BJC) in font of LAN (BBD) on the 40-26 line? Especially when BBD was not even manufactured in Everett. That line always seems to have 4 aircraft on it and any point so I wonder how/when they brought these aircraft in. Something tells me that LN 123 has rolled out  
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 102):
I wonder when that picture was taken.

He took them yesterday. He was there for DY delivery. He also says that the 787-9 has its wheels and power on.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 105, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32909 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 104):
Could be but they are both May aircraft so I thought that was figured out by then. Guess not. Only explanation I can come up with.

The front and aft cargo bay doors are open, which suggest they are working on the batteries. But I could be wrong.

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 104):
It really looks like it but since when was a BA bird (BJC) in font of LAN (BBD) on the 40-26 line?

If they were pulled back inside for a battery change, than yes that is possible.

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 104):
Especially when BBD was not even manufactured in Everett.

The LAN bird must be LN118 and I guess NYC777 has accidentally switched the registration with LN113 in CHS (or it is the other way around).

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 104):
He took them yesterday. He was there for DY delivery. He also says that the 787-9 has its wheels and power on.

So ZB001 is still in position 2 and not in 3?

[Edited 2013-06-28 01:48:40]


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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 106, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32879 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 105):
The LAN bird must be LN118 and I guess NYC777 has accidentally switched the registration with LN113 in CHS (or it is the other way around).

Occam's razor. Of course.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 105):
So ZB001 is still in position 2 and not in 3?

No, I think position three is a good bet. The picture I posted above showing the -9 was from a New Zealand Journalist and that was earlier than yesterday. Sorry if I confused that point. Coincidentally the AM bird is still listed at in 40-24 on NYC777's blog. Maybe they all moved up a slot.

E. Russel does say there a ton of activity going on on the surge line which is surprising to hear unless he is really just talking about that -9.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 107, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 32796 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 106):
The picture I posted above showing the -9 was from a New Zealand Journalist and that was earlier than yesterday.

Ah, that explains it. I thought the picture was also taken by E. Russel.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 102):
This is definitely 40-26.

BTW, this picture confirms the 40-26 building:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/erussell1984/9153301731/

We can see 3 positions. Also, together with the other pictures from Russel we have:

> AeroMexico LN127 in position 1 (first body join with the new tooling)
> Position 2 is empty (strange?)
> LAN LN118 in position 3
> BA LN114 in position 4

I wonder how they could free up space on the assembly line, position 2 is empty and 3 and 4 are currently used for LN114 and LN118 which were assembled in May. Maybe there was a small interruption in the assembly process to install the new tooling?

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 104):
Something tells me that LN 123 has rolled out

It could also be in 40-24, they sometimes switch positions. There was only 1 bird parked on the 40-51 ramp at that moment http://twitter.com/e_russell/status/350360549395156992/photo/1

[Edited 2013-06-28 03:11:01]


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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1876 posts, RR: 4
Reply 108, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 32590 times:

Lot's 5th 787, SP-LRE will be delivered in late July.

Effective 10th of August, all long-haul ops at Lot will be operated by Dreamliners. There will be no more scheduled 767 operations any more.



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User currently offlineDan23 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 32516 times:

LN123 must have been moved to 40-24. There has recently been a queue to get in for painting once outside which casts doubt on it being in the paint hangar.

User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 110, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 32451 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 107):
Maybe there was a small interruption in the assembly process to install the new tooling?

Yes, there was a temporary slow down when they removed the MOAT. That could be what we are seeing.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 107):
It could also be in 40-24, they sometimes switch positions.
Quoting Dan23 (Reply 108):
LN123 must have been moved to 40-24.

Could be that is what happened. I think we would have noticed it Qantas/Jetstar's first had rolled out. However, I thought that there really was not much done at position 4 on the 40-24 line. I thought I remembered all aircraft transferring to 40-26 when it was time for interiors/testing as they only did that in one location. Could be wrong on that.

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 108):
Lot's 5th 787, SP-LRE will be delivered in late July.

Great news. She is sitting right in the middle of a bunch of sequential line numbers that have had movement so it will good to have her catch up.

I realize this is not the right place for this but I enjoyed seeing this photo of Everett from Matt C. It shows an ET 77L landing while an AC 77W waits for clearance with 787s and 747s in the back ground. Pretty much covers everything that Everett is working on, all in one photo. If only we had a 767 in there somewhere. Anyway, here is the photo:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6435.htm

tortugamon


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 111, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 32426 times:

First video that I have seen of the 787-9.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Long-awaited-.../313/articleID/302716/Default.aspx

They could have done a better job with it but its worth seeing

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User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 112, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 32356 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 111):
They could have done a better job with it

Maybe a little unfair, tortugamon?   The Kiwis caught it as soon as it started looking like an aeroplane, and were the first to film it?

Still a while to go before it flies, though. It looks pretty good so far (and has lots of orders); but, as always in aviation, only yet more time will tell if it's going to be successful or not.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 113, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 32293 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 110):
Could be that is what happened. I think we would have noticed it Qantas/Jetstar's first had rolled out. However, I thought that there really was not much done at position 4 on the 40-24 line. I thought I remembered all aircraft transferring to 40-26 when it was time for interiors/testing as they only did that in one location. Could be wrong on that.

Position 4 was kept for change incorporation for a while, some 747s were on that spot too. But since a few months, Boeing uses that position for assembly.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 114, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 32272 times:

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 112):
Maybe a little unfair, tortugamon?   The Kiwis caught it as soon as it started looking like an aeroplane, and were the first to film it?

The angles were pretty poor, and the talk was about how late everything is and about the 787-10 instead of getting an angle that is not blocked by the wing or someone's head. Definitely not aviation geeks. They caught it when they did, not by chance, but because Boeing paid for them to fly over to cover it and for a first view I just would have liked some better footage thats all.

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User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3506 posts, RR: 27
Reply 115, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 31971 times:
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Quoting tortugamon (Reply 114):
but because Boeing paid for them to fly over to cover it

Sorry, have to disagree with that statement.. Boeing doesn't rely on paying news organizations for filming.. they have an excellent internal team that produces beautiful work.


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 116, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 31823 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 99):
EI-LNA (Norwegian #1) has been delivered today (27-Jun) to ILFC.

That's 7 at PAE this month with possibly 1 more to go if BAB ZA450 is done flying. Last month PAE delivered 7 also. I think we'll see 7-9 a month from PAE for the rest of the year -- nice steady pace.


User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 587 posts, RR: 3
Reply 117, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 31720 times:

Allthings787 has BAB ZA450 listed as being delivered 6/27/13. Perhaps that C3 flight you noted yesterday proved the aircraft clean and they inked the delivery paperwork.


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 118, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 31484 times:

Quoting starrion (Reply 82):
July looks promising given that there are still 31 frames built, but most haven't even had a first flight yet. Hopefully we will see a lot of B-1 flights over the next week.

We haven't seen a B-1 in two weeks - I am sitting on the edge of my seat hoping CZ and HU will each get an aircraft today - thinking that will allow the other 9 CZ and HU planes on the flight line to be delivered in a timely manner...add the 4 AI planes and I start to feel sorry for Boeing, they can't seem to catch a break!


User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 587 posts, RR: 3
Reply 119, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 31468 times:

There are still two days left in June! Being a quarter end, I'm hoping there is some weekend work scheduled to push a frame or two through the delivery center - either in Everett or North Charleston.

This looks like a B-1 for today....

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE186

[Edited 2013-06-28 12:07:21]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 120, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 31191 times:

There is some activity around LN39 again. It should be delivered to Ethiopian Airlines in July.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/9155168853/



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 121, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 30827 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 115):
Sorry, have to disagree with that statement.. Boeing doesn't rely on paying news organizations for filming..

There is this message on all of the articles: "Jane Luscombe travelled to Seattle with the assistance of Air New Zealand and Boeing." and "Jane Luscombe travelled to Charleston with the assistance of Air New Zealand and Boeing". That is what I was reffing to.

Quoting kanban (Reply 115):
they have an excellent internal team that produces beautiful work.

I agree. If Boeing did the video it would have been exponentially better.

tortugamon


User currently offlineual747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 30725 times:

Another customer flight....

LN76 ZA431 34939 B-2722 787-8 Hainan Airlines

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE431


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 123, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 30587 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 116):
I think we'll see 7-9 a month from PAE for the rest of the year -- nice steady pace.

I agree, its looking like they are beginning to hit their stride. Hopefully they can deliver more than 7/month. That will only allow them to eat into the 26 aircraft that are in pre-flight prep/production testing at a rate of 2/month above the approx 5/month that the FAL is adding not to mention the EMC. Wouldn't that take them over a year to clear the backlog at that rate?

At a rate of 9/month they will do some serious damage to the backlog, will be able to tackle anything that the EMC turns out and will be ready for the 787-9 flight testing all the while reaching a rate for deliveries that will be more sustainable once production ramps up by year end without too much excess capacity once the backlog is wound down. I am nitpicking but I would have thought that 8/month would have to be the minimum here on out and anything more is gravy.

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User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3506 posts, RR: 27
Reply 124, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 30280 times:
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Quoting tortugamon (Reply 121):
ane Luscombe travelled to Seattle with the assistance of Air New Zealand and Boeing." and "Jane Luscombe travelled to Charleston with the assistance of Air New Zealand and Boeing". That is what I was reffing to.

That's the news organization thanking Boeing for letting them into the factory and airplane.. Now if I was still on the floor doing safety inspections, both corespondents would either be wearing safety glasses or would be escorted out of the building.


User currently offlinedc1030cf From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 125, posted (1 year 2 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 30189 times:
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HU's B-2722 (BOE431) C flight photos from Charleston, SC. Enjoy


User currently offlineDan23 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 126, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 29975 times:

LN123 is in 40-24 as we guessed. Photo by Matt Cawby:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6438.htm


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 127, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 29752 times:

LN20 / JA821J is about to get its engines attached:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6436.htm

LN21 / JA823J is also visible in the EMC with the new JAL livery. We've seen this one with engines attached in the old livery at the fuel time some time ago:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6437.htm

[Edited 2013-06-29 06:27:58]


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User currently offlineBeeski From US Virgin Islands, joined Dec 2006, 53 posts, RR: 2
Reply 128, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 29671 times:

Quoting dc1030cf (Reply 125):

Hainan has my favorite 787 livery...so far.


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 129, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 29078 times:

The second BAB 787 is delivered and scheduled to fly home this evening:


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW787


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 130, posted (1 year 2 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 29040 times:

Quoting Dan23 (Reply 126):
LN123 is in 40-24 as we guessed. Photo by Matt Cawby:

Looks like seats and interiors are being installed.



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User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 27898 times:
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Line 102 - IFLC/Norwegian - departed for Oslo around 1715 on 6/29.
The 2nd BA aircraft departed several hours later.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 132, posted (1 year 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 27877 times:

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 131):
Line 102 - IFLC/Norwegian - departed for Oslo around 1715 on 6/29.

Weird, there was nothing on Flightaware on it.



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User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (1 year 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 27864 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 132):
Weird, there was nothing on Flightaware on it.

Nor was the 9 hour crew training flight on Friday.
No arrival photo's here either, but I know it departed, not sure why Flightaware isn't tracking it.


User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 134, posted (1 year 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 27679 times:

Quoting Beeski (Reply 128):

That is pretty spectacular.



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User currently offlinejuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1182 posts, RR: 9
Reply 135, posted (1 year 2 months 1 hour ago) and read 27514 times:

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 133):
No arrival photo's here either, but I know it departed, not sure why Flightaware isn't tracking it.

Here you have some pictures arriving in Oslo


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2815/9178882220_c41dda4600_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3817/9178922388_891dac81b3_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3672/9178922048_e3089998d3_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5547/9178921996_cefb48e3e2_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5522/9178921870_668a57f6da_b.jpg



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User currently offlineDeltaB717 From Australia, joined Jun 2012, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 136, posted (1 year 2 months ago) and read 27288 times:
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Awesome photos juanchito!! Thanks for sharing  

User currently offlinedc1030cf From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 27113 times:
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Just talked to the CZ crew in KCHS confirming delivery of BOE431(B-2133 ) before Independence Day- routing will be CHS-BFI-CAN HU's B-2722 (BOE381) will follow shortly.

User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 138, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 26896 times:

As we start the new month, a little refresher. July has the potential to be explosive but in order to achieve that there will need to be success with the problem children as the next 6 deliveries in theory are 1 China Southern, 3 Hainan and 2 Air India with 5 of those 6 sitting ready and pretty @ Charleston.

Next up...

Deliveries:
> B-2733 (China Southern #2) (@ Charleston)
> B-2722 (Hainan Airlines #1) (@ Charleston)

First Flights:
> B-2728 (Hainan Airlines #4) ->not "first" flight but first since Jan 8, 2013
> B-27?? (China Southern #3) (@ Charleston)
> A7-BCE (Qatar Airways #7)
> B-27?? (China Southern #4) -> not painted. maybe to be painted in Texas
> A7-BCG (Qatar Airways #8)
> SP-LRE (LOT Polish Airlines #5)
> ET-AOO (Ethiopian Airlines #5)

FAL Rollout:
> B-27?? (China Southern #7) (@ Charleston)
> N789EX (Boeing 787-9 Test Plane #1)
> N27908 (United Airlines #8) (@ Charleston)

Cheers
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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 139, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 26837 times:

There was a line move in 40-24, LN123 (Jetstart) was moved outside and LN115 (Aeromexico) was moved to the flightline.

http://paineairport.com/kpae6445.htm
http://paineairport.com/kpae6444.htm

Here is a nice picture of ZB001:

http://paineairport.com/kpae6446.htm

[Edited 2013-07-01 01:50:24]


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 140, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26239 times:

Quoting dc1030cf (Reply 137):
Just talked to the CZ crew in KCHS confirming delivery of BOE431(B-2133 ) before Independence Day- routing will be CHS-BFI-CAN HU's B-2722 (BOE381) will follow shortly.

I think you meant for CZ ZA384 (B-2733) and for HU ZA431 (B-2722).



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 141, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26242 times:

ZA466 for Qatar Airways is to have its B-1 today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE466



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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5410 posts, RR: 4
Reply 142, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26145 times:

Perhaps not strictly "production" related, but ZA005 has been doing an awful lot of long test flights lately. Is it testing PIP3 for the GE engines?

User currently offlinedc1030cf From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 143, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 25870 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 140):
I think you meant for CZ ZA384 (B-2733) and for HU ZA431 (B-2722)

Thank you for the correction bro. I didn't cross checked with your spreadsheet, Which of course is the BEST  


User currently offlinejfkgig From Brazil, joined Apr 2011, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 25782 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 17):
This has to be one of the worst 787 liveries yet.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/9111470187/

tortugamon

Couldn't agree more. The picture of Sonje Henie on the tail is better though, than the more famous one in which she is saluting Hitler.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 145, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 25787 times:

Quoting dc1030cf (Reply 143):
Thank you for the correction bro. I didn't cross checked with your spreadsheet, Which of course is the BEST

Thanks! It was just updated this AM with the latest positions of the production 787s.



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User currently offlineDeltaB717 From Australia, joined Jun 2012, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 25244 times:
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Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 138):
problem children

Which ones are the 'problem children'? Is it the aircraft or the airlines (or CAAC) you mean there?


User currently offlinestarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 147, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 25251 times:

Yeah. There are an awful lot of frames for China in the parking area. Is there any guidance on when they may be departing?

Is this a technical issue or are we on another political hold?



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User currently offlinezkokq From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 25244 times:

Quoting starrion (Reply 147):

They are working on delivering now from what I have seen. They are taking their time though. I assume once each carrier has one, then the rest will flood out.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 149, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 24666 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 142):
Perhaps not strictly "production" related, but ZA005 has been doing an awful lot of long test flights lately. Is it testing PIP3 for the GE engines?

PIP2, not 3.

> ZA004 is currently flying the RR Trent 1000 Package C
> ZA005 is currently flying the GE GEnx PIP2



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User currently offlinesunrisevalley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4955 posts, RR: 5
Reply 150, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 24358 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 149):
PIP2, not 3.

will the first 789 be fitted with Package C engines or might they be installed later?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 151, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 24382 times:

ZB001 will be fitted with Package C. The engines have already been delivered to the FAL:

http://www.rolls-royce.com/news/pres...13/19062013_787_9_first_flight.jsp



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User currently offlinedc1030cf From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 152, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 24336 times:
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CZ's second Dreamliner B-2733 will be delivered as CSN733,CHS-BFI-CAN
Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1200 File size: 295kb


[Edited 2013-07-02 07:23:29]

User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 153, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 24324 times:

Here is a quote from today's Aspire Aviation article:

“The 787-9 leverages the visionary design of the 787-8. With a 20-foot (6m) stretch to the fuselage, the 787-9 will be able to carry 40 more passengers an additional 300 nautical miles (555km). The 787-9 also features additional aerodynamics improvements and technological enhancements that increase range and value for our customers, including some internal enhancements to the composite structure that reduce airplane weight and some airplane system and configuration changes that improve fuel efficiency . We’ll evaluate these technologies and features for possible incorporation into the 787-8 using our disciplined process, which will lead us to the appropriate business decisions. We are unable to comment on specific technologies or enhancements because they are proprietary,” Boeing spokesman Scott Lefeber said
http://www.aspireaviation.com/2013/0...the-x-factor/#.UdLUyil0Lls.twitter

I was aware that they were planning on instituting weight savings but it sounds like there is more involved than just that. The fact that they have to evaluate weather or not to implement these into the -8 tells me that this is more complicated than just a lighter component or sub assembly here and there.

tortugamon


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 154, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 24289 times:

Quoting dc1030cf (Reply 152):
CZ's second Dreamliner B-2733 will be delivered as CSN733,CHS-BFI-CAN

Delivery today I believe.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 155, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 24051 times:

Quoting dc1030cf (Reply 152):
CZ's second Dreamliner B-2733 will be delivered as CSN733,CHS-BFI-CAN

Here it is:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...3/history/20130702/1600Z/KCHS/KBFI



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 156, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 24061 times:

CSN now has 20% of it's 787 fleet with another 50% waiting in the wings (pun unintended).


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 157, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 23735 times:

Looks like a C-1 flight for ZA242:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE242



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 158, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 23772 times:

Good, it looks like they found a loan for the purchase of the next batch 787s.

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 156):
CSN now has 20% of it's 787 fleet with another 50% waiting in the wings (pun unintended).

That's one way to put it  



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 159, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 23659 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 158):
Good, it looks like they found a loan for the purchase of the next batch 787s.

YEah one at aa time it seems....soooooo painful to watch.



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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 160, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 23532 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 157):
Looks like a C-1 flight for ZA242:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE242

PAE to PAE for an hour and a half most likely just a FCF after return to production status, we'll see.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 161, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 22791 times:

LN43 (CZ) is back on the flightline after spending some time around the EMC. This one was ferried FTW-PAE during the grounding and is still wearing the Boeing registration.

http://paineairport.com/kpae6452.htm

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 160):
PAE to PAE for an hour and a half most likely just a FCF after return to production status, we'll see.

According to Matt, it was indeed a test flight.

[Edited 2013-07-03 00:43:48]


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 162, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 22269 times:

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 67 Aircraft to 12 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO JUNE
NH-19; JL-8; AI-6; UA–6; QR-5; ET-4; LO-3; LA-3; BY-2; CZ-1

RECENT DELIVERIES
L/N 96 - G-TUIC – 6/12/2013 – BY #3
L/N 98 – JA831J – 6/12/2013 - JL #9
L/N 99 - A7-BCD – 6/14/2013 - QR #6 (Paris Air Show)
L/N 72 - VT-ANM – 6/18/2013 - AI #7
L/N 101 - JA820A - 6/20/2013 - NH #20
L/N 87 - SP-LRD – 6/21/2013 – LO #4
L/N 111 – G-ZBJB - 6/25/2013 - BA #1
L/N 108 – G-ZBJA - 6/27/2013 - BA #2
L/N 102 – EI-LNA - 6/27/2013 - DY #1 (ILFC)
L/N 95 - B-2733 – 7/2/2013 – CZ #2

AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY
L/N 76 - B-2722 – 7/xx/2013 - HU #1
L/N 90 - VT-ANN – 7/xx/2013 - AI #8 (Paris Air Show)
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – 7/xx/2013 - AI #9
L/N 81 - B-2723 – x/xx/2013 - HU #2
L/N 85 - B–2730 - x/xx/2013 - HU #3
L/N 105 – JA832J – 7/xx/2013 - JL #10
L/N 103 - A7-BCE – 7/xx/2013 - QR #7
L/N 43 - B-2727 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #3
L/N 73 - B-2728 – x/xx/2013 - HU #4
L/N 39 - ET-AOO – 7/xx/2013 - ET #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 88 - SP-LRE – 7/xx/2013 – LO #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 106 - G-TUID – x/xx/2013 – BY #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 107 - JA821A - 7/xx/2013 - NH #21 Awaiting first flight
L/N 112 – EI-LNB - 7/xx/2013 - DY #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 110 - JA822A - x/xx/2013 - NH #22 Awaiting first flight
L/N 79 - B-27?? – x/xx/2013 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 93 - B-2732 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 100 - B-2734 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - x/xx/2013 - BA #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 104 - B-2735 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #6 Awaiting first flight
L/N 115 – N961AM - 8/xx/2013 - AM #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 109 - A7-BCF – x/xx/2013 - QR #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 116 - A7-BCG – x/xx/2013 - QR #9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 117 – N29907 – x/xx/2013 – UA #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 118 - CC-BBE - 8/xx/2013 - LA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 121 – G-ZBJD - x/xx/2013 - BA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 120 - JA823A - 8/xx/2013 - NH #23 Awaiting first flight
L/N 113 - CC-BBD - 8/xx/2013 - LA #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 30 - VT-ANE – x/xx/2013 - AI #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 36 - B-2726 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 122 – N964AM - x/xx/2013 - AM #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 123 – VH-VKA – 9/xx/2013 – QF #1 Awaiting first flight


User currently offlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 594 posts, RR: 3
Reply 163, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 22190 times:

Boeing's June 787 Report has solved the United 787 mystery allocation.
Adjustments were:
> sCO adds 1 788 and 4 789s to its order tally (previously included in Unidentified category so not a new order)
> sUA moves 16 frames out of 788s into 6 789s and 10 7810s

So current tally is:
> 21 788s (12 sCOs + 9 sUAs) -> 6 delivered so far are all sCOs
> 24 789s (18 sCOs + 6 sUAs)
> 20 7810s (20 sUAs)

No other change in the monthly report (ie nothing about Xiamen's 6x 788s, Air Canada and Air Berlin's conversions to 789s, British Airways' 12x 7810s, GECAS' 10x 7810s and Air Lease's 30x 7810s).

Cheers
A


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 164, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 22123 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 163):
So current tally is:
> 21 788s (12 sCOs + 9 sUAs) -> 6 delivered so far are all sCOs
> 24 789s (18 sCOs + 6 sUAs)
> 20 7810s (20 sUAs)

Are you suggesting the 6 delivered 787-8s are not included in the 21 tally that you list? I thought the 21 were outstanding orders not total orders. That leaves 18 orders for the -9 rather than 24.

Flight global suggested the following:
"The Chicago-based carrier is understood to be the undisclosed customer of four -9s and one -8, which Boeing first listed in its orders and deliveries in November 2012. The airline has outstanding orders for 21 -8s, 18 -9s and 20 -10s - a total of 59 aircraft - as a result of the additional aircraft.

This is in line with the 65 787s United said that it has in its fleet and on order at Paris.

The airline operates six -8s."
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...mbers-prior-to-paris-order-387829/

tortugamon


User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 545 posts, RR: 1
Reply 165, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 22119 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 164):

Flight global was wrong.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...ageid=m25062&RequestTimeout=100000



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 166, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 22117 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 164):
Are you suggesting the 6 delivered 787-8s are not included in the 21 tally that you list? I thought the 21 were outstanding orders not total orders. That leaves 18 orders for the -9 rather than 24.

Nope he's right. Accordig to Boeing's O&D it is 21 total orders for the 787-8 which is now down to 15 left to be delivered since they have 6 already. There are 24 787-9s still on order.



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 167, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 22024 times:

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 165):
Flight global was wrong.
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 166):
Nope he's right.

I had to see it with my own eyes to believe it. Got it. I updated wiki because it had the flight global information in there as well. IMO, this mix makes a lot more sense as UA will need to replace some of the 90 764s, 772s, and 77Es and the -9 will be a great fit.

tortugamon


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5752 posts, RR: 47
Reply 168, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21843 times:

ZA186 isd on tap to fly another flight. I don't know if this is a C-1 or a B-2.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE186



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 169, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 21626 times:

The 787-9 will feature 3 new flap settings.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/flightblogger/9204142702/

More info from our beloved Ostrower here:
http://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/352523941132242945



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User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5638 posts, RR: 6
Reply 170, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 21447 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 162):
L/N 123 – VH-VKA – 9/xx/2013 – QF #1 Awaiting first flight

Picky, I know but VH-VKA is not for QF! It is being delivered to and will be registered to JQ, a completely different company/airline.

Gemuser



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User currently offlinesunrisevalley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4955 posts, RR: 5
Reply 171, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 21226 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 162):
AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY

so that is 24 aircraft awaiting first flight ! Are all these ready for a crew to climb aboard , fire it up and takeoff.... or aren't they .   


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 172, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 21199 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 168):
ZA186 isd on tap to fly another flight. I don't know if this is a C-1 or a B-2.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE186

B-2


User currently offlineual747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 173, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 20804 times:

A7-BCD flight home. Seems like it took almost 2 weeks to get work done this time.

LN99 ZA465 38322 A7-BCD

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR3787

UAL747-600


User currently offlinedc1030cf From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 174, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 20597 times:
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According to info from within HU, their first Dreamliner B-2722 will be officially deliver on Independence Day and fly away on the fifth by way of BFI