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Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013  
User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8093 posts, RR: 54
Posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 27182 times:

Looks like Biman are planning to retire the DC-10 at the end of November, with the last flight arriving into Dhaka on the morning of Dec 1. They are the world's last operator of the type in passenger service, which makes this a real moment of aviation history.

I will aim to be on the last flight (from Abu Dhabi) and maybe even do a trip before then as well, since it is quite cheap (fares start from around $150 one way AUH-CGP-DAC, yes you do get a 25 minute domestic leg included!). Biman is a great experience and Dhaka airport has a great four star hotel with airport views from the roof terrace - the Regency Dhaka. I will miss this when it's gone.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/06/24/bg-w13update1/

with thanks to Sam Chui (a veteran of many BG adventures!) who spotted this news article


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
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User currently offlinehotplane From UK - England, joined Jul 2006, 1038 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 27024 times:

Suppose Chui has already booked?


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11645 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 26977 times:

Oh this is tempting! I will have to see about this - I said I'd done my 'last' DC-10 back in 2006...


Dan  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineYLWbased From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 829 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 26826 times:

I'm trying to get myself on the last flight out of HKG on NOV29, any a.netter wanna join?

YLWbased



Hong Kong is not China. Not better or worse, just different.
User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 820 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 24007 times:

Interesting, thx for the info, I will look into this, too. TXL-AUH, on to DAC and the whole way back, sounds like a fun trip for Nov/Dec...

User currently offlineCAMPBELL From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 23684 times:

My only rides on DC-10s were with Omni Air International in June 2001 BWI-FRA-KUW and Feb 2002 on World Airways from FRA to BWI to CHS. Now if only I can ride a 747 before I Die...

User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1619 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 22969 times:

I worked aboard the DC10 from 1982 until NW retired the last one on both the DC10-40 and -30's. It was a sweet airplane to work on--our only complaint being that it always flew slightly nose high so your calves always ached at the end of a trip from always walking uphill. And I will not even comment on the reliability of the lavatories! But she was a safe, reliable and tough old friend. I miss working on her.

Have an honorable retirement, old friend. You have earned it.



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User currently offlinetreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 658 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 22772 times:

I had the fortune of getting to fly on several NW DC-10 flights, both the 30 and 40 series. Glad I had the chance to fly on the classic tri-jet.


Allons-y!
User currently offlineawacsooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1902 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 22690 times:

Quoting CAMPBELL (Reply 5):
My only rides on DC-10s were with Omni Air International in June 2001 BWI-FRA-KUW and Feb 2002 on World Airways from FRA to BWI to CHS. Now if only I can ride a 747 before I Die...

My first one was HNL-LAX on NW in 1992...my last was DHF-SNN-BGR-TIK on Omni in 2011...loved the ride.


User currently offlineairplaneguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 21133 times:

Doesn't KLM fly DC-10's to YYZ? I coulda swore I saw them when I was there recently.

On a side note, in the early 80's, I flew a CP AIR DC-10 from YYZ-HNL-NAD.

Airplaneguy


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 21036 times:

Quoting airplaneguy (Reply 9):
Doesn't KLM fly DC-10's to YYZ?

No, they only have MD-11s.



Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 20776 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 10):
Quoting airplaneguy (Reply 9):
Doesn't KLM fly DC-10's to YYZ?

No, they only have MD-11s.

KLM retired their last DC-10s almost 19 years ago, December 1994.


User currently offlinethorntot From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 19260 times:

Worked aboard the DC-10-30 for Omni. Great aircraft. Hopefully one will be preserved in passenger configuration at one of the global aviation museums.


Work Hard. Fly Right. Fly United.
User currently offlinezschocheimages From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 19261 times:

This makes me sad to see. The DC-10 was always one of my favorites. I remember several great flights on NW metal while growing up in the mid-west. Fortunately, I have the pleasure of continuing to fly this beautiful bird as a pilot on the KC-10. Every time I take to the skies in the "ten" I can't help but think about how lucky I am to fly a plane with such an amazing heritage.


Why fly with 2 engines when you can have 3?
User currently onlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3237 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 19148 times:

Am so up for that! What routes are they currently flying? 

User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19568 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 19113 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6):
I worked aboard the DC10 from 1982 until NW retired the last one on both the DC10-40 and -30's. It was a sweet airplane to work on--our only complaint being that it always flew slightly nose high so your calves always ached at the end of a trip from always walking uphill. And I will not even comment on the reliability of the lavatories! But she was a safe, reliable and tough old friend. I miss working on her.

That aft galley sure was nosy with an engine mounted above it.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
KLM retired their last DC-10s almost 19 years ago, December 1994.

Your math is off. 1994 wasn't nineteen years a...

...holy crud.  Wow!

 
Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 7):
I had the fortune of getting to fly on several NW DC-10 flights, both the 30 and 40 series. Glad I had the chance to fly on the classic tri-jet.

Growing up in DTW, I had the pleasure of an awful lot of NW DC-10 flights. Even in 2002 when they were still using them transatlantic and I found myself wishing I was on a 772. A nice thing about them was that no matter where you were seated, you heard the buzzsaw at takeoff because you were always in front of at least one engine. Also, because the wings were mounted further aft than on a twin owing to the rear CG caused by the #2 engine, more seats were forward of the wing engines. Ah, the music...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzO-pYFiR4


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3971 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 18799 times:
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I thought they were retired already. The first ride I could remember and enjoy in details was on a DC10. I might try and get one more flight...

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
Your math is off. 1994 wasn't nineteen years a...

Feeling the weight of years gone by, doc?



I've got $h*t to do
User currently offlinextoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 18648 times:

My only rides on DC-10s were with Omni Air International in June 2001 BWI-FRA-KUW and Feb 2002 on World Airways from FRA to BWI to CHS. Now if only I can ride a 747 before I Die...

I take it you were military. I flew the "Cattle Car" World Airways DC10 to my first duty station, PHL to MHZ (EGUN) with a stop in Gander. I did take leave and flew on a KC10 from MHZ to CHS. I thought that was a pretty nice ride. It was a lot more comfortable than the C141 I could have flown out on.

Now that I think about it my last ride in a DC10 was NW from FRA to DTW when I left Germany in '98.



EMB145 F/A, F/E, J41 F/A, F/E, because my wife clipped my wings, armchair captain
User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 18577 times:

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 3):
'm trying to get myself on the last flight out of HKG on NOV29, any a.netter wanna join?

That is the easiest option for me, I'll see if I can justify it - it's been a big year for flying. I'd love to.


User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 18197 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
KLM retired their last DC-10s almost 19 years ago, December 1994.
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
Your math is off. 1994 wasn't nineteen years a...

...holy crud.  

My thought exactly…


User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1619 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 18066 times:

I worked one of our last DC-10-30ER trips from BOM to AMS. About 15 minutes after takeoff we were just starting our beverage service (at 0145 local!) and most everyone was asleep already. I had just asked the first awake passenger if they would like something to drink in BC when we heard (and felt) the #1 engine surge and felt the airplane skewing to the right. I looked up at my colleague across the aisle and she mouthed the silent words to me "What the f**k!" All you heard was the snapping of the brakes on the beverage carts and eight sets of feet moving quickly towards the front of the airplane. I went into the cockpit (as purser) and, as I had figured, we had blown the #3 engine. The passengers noticed NOTHING! Flight attendants know the normal sounds of flight and we pick up INSTANTLY when something changes. The captain told me he was not going to say anything yet as we were dumping fuel (we joked that there would be no mosquitoes left in that part of India) and would wait until we had reduced to a safe landing weight. Meanwhile, we just stowed the equipment and prepared the airplane for landing.

Eventually, as we were descending, the captain came on the PA and told the passengers that we had a mechanical issue and were returning to BOM. No drama, no panic. I stationed the flight attendants throughout the cabin looking nonchalant and then gradually turned up the lights. Everyone was pretty cool about it (except for a few flight attendants that had child care issues and would be delayed returning home). Of course, the flight cancelled and everyone went to hotels....at about 0700 local. We were exhausted but the end result was that the DC-10 did its job well and everyone was safe and sound.

Thus was my final DC-10 trip....kind of appropriate, I think. The airplane was finally retired about three days later. She was one tough old bird but I never had any doubt about its safety or reliability.



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User currently offlinePilawt From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 17772 times:

I worked as a flight instructor at LGB across the field from the McD-D plant while the DC-10 was in pre-certification flight test. We watched as the unpainted prototype made a "max effort" landing on rwy 30, and stopped short of the intersection of 25L, a distance of about 3,200 feet.

On an August day in 1971, the first two DC-10s were delivered to customers, one to AA, one to UAL. Though it was the middle of the week, Douglas factory workers, given the day off for the event, lined the airport perimeter. VIPs were shuttled out to rwy 12/30 for a close-up look at the take-offs. The whole airport had an air-show feel to it that day. At the appointed time after the ceremonies and speeches on the Douglas ramp, the AA airplane trundled out to rwy 12 and launched into the summer haze, to the 'oohs' and 'ahhs' of the assembled multitudes (we'd been watching these things in flight test for months; no big deal).

Then the UAL aircraft took the runway. It accelerated ... rotated ... then the nosewheel came back down, spoilers and reversers deployed, and the airplane ignominiously rolled out to the end of the runway, as VIPs nervously looked around and stood on one foot then the other. I was never told for sure, but rumor had it the captain's cockpit window was not properly latched.

Thus began the DC-10's career.


User currently offlineFastphilly From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 16975 times:

Wow a DC-10 still in pax service? The last DC-10 out of AFO was operated by NW on the SFO-NRT route. When they replaced it with an A330 I knew I'd never see that classic bird again  

User currently offlineAirCalSNA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 16195 times:

Quoting Pilawt (Reply 21):
I worked as a flight instructor at LGB across the field from the McD-D plant while the DC-10 was in pre-certification flight test. We watched as the unpainted prototype made a "max effort" landing on rwy 30, and stopped short of the intersection of 25L, a distance of about 3,200 feet.

On an August day in 1971, the first two DC-10s were delivered to customers, one to AA, one to UAL. Though it was the middle of the week, Douglas factory workers, given the day off for the event, lined the airport perimeter. VIPs were shuttled out to rwy 12/30 for a close-up look at the take-offs. The whole airport had an air-show feel to it that day. At the appointed time after the ceremonies and speeches on the Douglas ramp, the AA airplane trundled out to rwy 12 and launched into the summer haze, to the 'oohs' and 'ahhs' of the assembled multitudes (we'd been watching these things in flight test for months; no big deal).

Then the UAL aircraft took the runway. It accelerated ... rotated ... then the nosewheel came back down, spoilers and reversers deployed, and the airplane ignominiously rolled out to the end of the runway, as VIPs nervously looked around and stood on one foot then the other. I was never told for sure, but rumor had it the captain's cockpit window was not properly latched.

Thus began the DC-10's career.

So true ... they seemed cursed for at least a decade. I did not fly them until the 80's, by which time they had settled into being reliable workhorses. Even so, I never particularly liked the design of the tail, and the plane didn't inspire much confidence in me.


User currently offlineviscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 15536 times:
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Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6):
Have an honorable retirement, old friend. You have earned it.

Much more likely to be ripped to pieces and carted off to a junkyard........ Oh sorry, did they tell you they went to a nice new home in the country with big fields and lots of animals to play with?   



RIP Dan-Air. Where the Secret was SERVICE.
25 daviation : And my first DC-10 trip was on July 25, 1973! American Airlines from LGA to BUF. We taxied out to the runway three times, only to find the brakes lock
26 pa747sp : I'm not sure if it is an urban myth but I recall being told by some ex Air NZ staff that the very nose-up attitude of the DC10 was something that Air
27 babybus : I'd like to fly the DC10 again but I'm not sure if I fancy over-nighting in Bangladesh. I flew the VIASA DC10 from Caracas to Heathrow many years ago.
28 cedarjet : All flights between Bangladesh and Abu Dhabi are DC-10, and every Fri it goes DAC-DOH-DXB-CGP-DAC, arriving CGP on Sat morning and the domestic leg i
29 Post contains images MIAspotter : Hmm, I might look into this, 150$ is cheap enough, I also don´t fancy staying over in DAC so if a same day way out can be managed, then great! Teneri
30 777way : I thought that site is as popular as a.net, and the news must have seen by all, apparently not. That's your second engine problem incident out of Bom
31 cedarjet : I've never heard of it before! You're missing out - the Regency is a great property and the traffic at DAC is really unique. Don't be shy, you'll lov
32 G-CIVP : I think the words "before it falls out the sky" need to be added to the original article. It would be interesting to see how many cycles the remaining
33 thegreatRDU : Last DC-10 hop? Probably Northwest Airlines DTW-CDG, ca 2004 ah man those were good times..
34 Post contains images Loran : Unfortunately I can't access the system at the moment as I am underway, but in early 2010 after a ride on S2-ACQ I had checked the Biman DC-10s and e
35 rjm717 : Oh, this thread has grown into something very melancholic. I worked for CO (DC10-10 Pub / -30) AA (-30 with leather & sheepskin seats) and NW (-40
36 bennett123 : How many are still flying?. I understood that S2-ACO/ACP were flying, with S2-ACQ being retained as a spares ship, and S2-ACR in active storage.
37 Loran : Correct, when I flew on ACP the crew said ACR would return to service shortly. Not sure if this happened though. Airfleets.net lists ACR as still bei
38 terminalc : Used to fly DC-10 on CO & NW frequently. I always loved those planes. There was nothing like sitting near the tail engine during a takeoff. And fo
39 RWA380 : My first flight on a DC-10 was NW also, Aug 1979, this was during the grounding of the DC-10s after the tragic AA incident at ORD. We were told by NW
40 bennett123 : It would be great to get on the last flight. However, there are numerous factors that I will need to check out before deciding.
41 Post contains links and images United_fan : I will always kick myself for not ponying up more $ for the non-stop LAS-ORD UA flight June 2000.. View Large View MediumPhoto © fiveVictor[Edited 20
42 FlyHossD : DC-10s were my favorite "ride" for many years. My first DC-10 trip was into DFW on AA for an interview with AA. As I recall, the return trip was so sm
43 DTWPurserBoy : Now why in the world would you make such a mean-spirited comment like that? I have seen them scrapped--I and every other NW employee has a desk ornam
44 Post contains links and images NWOrientDC10 : Here's a commercial from 1971 describing "the world's newest jet plane, United's DC-10". Those were certainly the days... Enjoy http://www.youtube.com
45 Post contains images brons2 : lol no kidding! I have flown over to the EU a couple of times for these a.nutter "flights of fancy" so to say. Great fun but times are different now
46 terminalc : Wow, I'm so jealous. I flew TPAC so many times on NW 742s & clearly remember my last NW 742 flight SEA-NRT. Upstairs on those birds was wonderful
47 United_fan : When I was at the Delta Museum,they were selling them in the L1011 store. Maybe they have some left online.
48 DTWPurserBoy : That is so true. For some reason BOM and I seem to have issues. Actually, it is sort of my third--I got stranded there for a week when the volcano bl
49 aussie_ : I hear horror stories of BG delays... I am currently planning a trip which would include DXB-DAC-HKG, with the DC10 on the second sector, with 4 hour
50 Post contains images YLWbased : BG flights to and from HKG are usually delayed for a few hours, if not cancelled, just for your information YLWbased
51 cedarjet : A five hour transit in DAC is tonnes, you'll have no issues. Generally that's totally not the case, they used to be terrible back in the old days, the
52 tommy525 : My first DC10 was a DC 10-30 Intercontinental with PAL. From Manila to Honolulu and onwards to SFO. With a technical stop in Guam. This was in 1979 !
53 Post contains images yodobashi : My fondest tri-jet memory was flying LHR-SFO on AA, supposedly on an MD11 from LHR-ORD then a B763 from ORD-SFO. The MD11 leg from LHR-ORD went as pla
54 Post contains images YLWbased : How about I live in Hong Kong and fly out every week from HKG, and seen it with my own eyes. YLWbased
55 YLWbased : In a 10 September 2008 article published in The Times, Biman was labelled the worst performer for punctuality at Heathrow, with flights delayed on av
56 Post contains images F9animal : What are the complaints about the lavs? I will never forget getting my blue juice truck under a UA DC-10 in LAS on a scorching hot windy day. Connecte
57 aerorobnz : Likely only months after the DC10. Strange thought that the replacement aircraft is also almost completely gone. I flew KL LAX-AMS to gain an MD11 fl
58 txjim : On behalf of those of us who have used the 10's lav, we thank you! I was a regular on the DFW - LGW route when the DC-10s that BA inherited flew the
59 DTWPurserBoy : It was not unusual to see a DC-10 dispatched with half the lavs inop. They would mysteriously stop flushing inflight. Water would back up in the sink
60 Loran : It is true that BG managed to improve their dispatch reliability, tough I unfortunately had some bad experiences in December 2012. The first flight (
61 Post contains images Loran : Well, not too long ago even their own sales office in KUL recommended not to fly Biman and to better book tickets with Thai or Malaysia Airlines due
62 Skyeurope : Really? In July 2012 I had a 10hr delay on AUH-DAC. A friend of mine, who flew the route a few weeks later, got a 15hr delay.
63 Post contains images United_fan : What a way to make friends
64 SXDFC : How many service ports did the DC-10 have? Since I am guessing more than one, did you have to work a flight alone? After doing the lavs many times my
65 avion660 : Well, I can't speak for Babybus, but back in th late 80's I took the same flights: LHR-CCS and back on VA. Flight out had a stop in OPO, and on the w
66 bennett123 : If delays on that scale are common, then it must be very tricky for anyone travelling to Bangladesh on business. Especially given that no all services
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