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Turkish Aviation July 2013  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Posted (1 year 1 month 9 hours ago) and read 13100 times:

Merhaba everyone.

Welcome to the July summer edition of the Turkish aviation thread.


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Some highlights from the last month:

o THY for the 3rd year running crowned as the "Best Airline in Europe by Skytrax. Also won best business class catering, and best airline in Southern Europe.      
o TK growth continued with new cities of Al-Qassim, Marseille, Constanta, Tallinn, Vilnius and Luxemburg commenced in June
o TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s.
o New Japan bilateral agreed, allowing TK to grow Japan flights from current 14 weekly at 2 service points to 42 weekly at 5 service points
o TK formally confirmed what was long rumored, Comfort Class will be removed as newly ordered 77Ws arrive in 2014. TK will further improve is Business product.
o Expansion to Americas will be a focus in 2014 for TK - IST-CCS-BOG and IST-HAV-MEX routes planned plus one or two more cities in the US.
o TK further expands its SAW service with 3 new German routes. Daily to DUS, FRA and MUC effective this coming winter.
o Charter operator Sky Airlines filed bankruptcy and shut down. It had been having difficulties since its primary tour operator went out of business.
o ACT leases its 2 747 freighters to Saudia
o Pegasus signs for 737NG C-heavy checks in Bulgaria by Lufthansa Technik
o Atlasjet Iraqi venture Zargos Air awaits its own AOC and will use single leased Atlasjet A321 from its Erbil base.
o TAV won $400mil contract to build a 100,000sq meter terminal in Riyadh


Lets discuss !


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User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 13049 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
o TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s.

Good news. Will they be refurbished to meet actual TK standards? What is the interior of the ex-QR A332s that joins a few years ago?

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
New Japan bilateral agreed, allowing TK to grow Japan flights from current 14 weekly at 2 service points to 42 weekly at 5 service points

NRT is going 14w in autumn. Which are the next destinations to be launched?

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Expansion to Americas will be a focus in 2014 for TK - IST-CCS-BOG and IST-HAV-MEX routes planned plus one or two more cities in the US.

Amazing development. TK has to grow their americas network. On the other hand the downgraded IST-GRU-EZE from the B77W to a A343...


User currently offlinethaiflyer From Thailand, joined Oct 2007, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 13024 times:

Does anybody knows for how long the Jet Air 777W are leased.
I noticed that my next few trips from IST to BKK are changed to the leased 777W with the staggered business class seats.
I'm happy with this as the A343 business class seat is not the best at this moment.


User currently offlinetkfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 12946 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
o TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s.

Also they intend to lease some A320. Someone mentioned they will join Anadolujets fleet.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
On the other hand the downgraded IST-GRU-EZE from the B77W to a A343...

Overall it will be an increase in capacity. They went from 4weekly 77W to daily A340


User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 12893 times:

Quoting thaiflyer (Reply 2):
I noticed that my next few trips from IST to BKK are changed to the leased 777W with the staggered business class seats.

VT-JEN is currently doing LHR/DXB runs back and forth. Last week I was onboard to DXB and can definately confirm the added comfort of the business seats. in fact, I could sleep from take-off until touchdown

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Also won best business class catering, and best airline in Southern Europe

congrats for having the best business food. if I'm not mistaken they were first in economy catering for some years. maybe a sign that they have to redesign that concept too, because for more than two years when I fly to Europe I almost every time get the same.


User currently offlineTK773ER From Australia, joined Jun 2010, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 12859 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):

With regards to Japan which other cities is TK likely to fly to and how soon will TK make the decision? Do they have enough frames or is 2014 more likely?


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 4 hours ago) and read 12840 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
o TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s.

Good news. Will they be refurbished to meet actual TK standards? What is the interior of the ex-QR A332s that joins a few years ago?

They should be ... I've flown on the GF 332s many times. They are clean, but ancient! The seats or the IFE don't even come close to TK standards. Even their business class products can't match TK's comfort class. I hope they are refurbished, otherwise passengers on some routes will be royally pissed!


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 12785 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
Good news. Will they be refurbished to meet actual TK standards? What is the interior of the ex-QR A332s that joins a few years ago?

Considering they will be on lease for 6-year period, at some point the cabins certainly will be modified to match.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
Which are the next destinations to be launched?

TK Japan manager says NGO, FUK, HND
THY Looks To Add NGO, FUK And HND (by LAXintl Jun 11 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting thaiflyer (Reply 2):
Does anybody knows for how long the Jet Air 777W are leased.

Per stock market filings the leases were for 12-14 month periods. So they should run through July-September'ish 2014.

Basically these frames hold TK until the 15 new 77Ws start arriving in 2014.

Quoting tkfan (Reply 3):
Also they intend to lease some A320. Someone mentioned they will join Anadolujets fleet.

320 from Gulf Air also?



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User currently offlinetkfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12605 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
320 from Gulf Air also?

I dont know if ex-Gulf Air 320, but also for six years like the 330. Two in total

from the filing to Borsa Istanbul

"...
25.06.2013

Our Incorporatiın has decided to lease 1 A320-200 aircraft from Wells Fargo Bank Northwest, National Association for the duration of 6 years.

19.06.2013

The Incorporation has decided to lease 3 A330-200 aircraft from Wilmington Trust SP Services (Dublin) Limited and 1 A320-200 aircraft from Wells Fargo Bank Northwest National Association for the duration of 6 years.

..."


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12597 times:

where is TK787 wasn't he to start this topic?

User currently onlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4498 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12584 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s

These three frames have already been registered as TC-JNU, TC-JNV and TC-JNY apparently for line numbers 527, 529 and 532 respectively.

Quoting tkfan (Reply 3):
Also they intend to lease some A320
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
320 from Gulf Air also?

Planespotters indicates that an ex TACA frame is to join the TK fleet. Line number 1624 is to be registered TC-JBO.


User currently offlineMeCe From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12372 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):

Considering they will be on lease for 6-year period, at some point the cabins certainly will be modified to match.



This may not happen..

Fleet becomes "aşure", and it is very expensive keep the cabin fresh. You cant imagine how expensive is a small plastic part of seat.

And 3rd wet leased 777 is arrived painted; VT-JEP. VT-JEM was painted, still performing incoming inspection. will see which stations get these birds... Nowadays TK birds go ESB and ADB on morning flights, instead sitting on tarmac until they depart to north American bank.

And have heard rumors ORD will be double daily soon  

Construction begun on military side of Ataturk airport, some bunkers is demolishing. They are building some cargo area at the end of runway to clear mess on cargo terminal.

Regarding to 3 rd airport construction, there are still some grey clouds. CV of construction still trying to find funds, but I highly doubt they can finish first phase in 2018. TK should really consider A380 order with this delay. Ataturk may not be 380 ready but gates and taxiways may redone and 380 will add required capacity for constant growth.


User currently offlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4755 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 12147 times:

The 3 ex GF A332s are actually originally MEA A330s with 42J / 208Y configuration with a hopeless business class product where as Y class is just about ok.

They will not be with TK in the current state nor configuration as I read on this website 3 weeks ago that these 3 jets are being refurbished in USA to meet TK's standards and after completion shall be delivered.


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11994 times:

Quoting MeCe (Reply 11):
Construction begun on military side of Ataturk airport, some bunkers is demolishing. They are building some cargo area at the end of runway to clear mess on cargo terminal.

Regarding to 3 rd airport construction, there are still some grey clouds. CV of construction still trying to find funds, but I highly doubt they can finish first phase in 2018. TK should really consider A380 order with this delay. Ataturk may not be 380 ready but gates and taxiways may redone and 380 will add required capacity for constant growth.

great to hear the military areas are finally being integrated into IST use ....

personally, i think it will probably be 2020 before the new airport gets functional ... so new capacity at IST is critical for maintaining TK's explosive growth. The new 333s are starting to come this year (and 77Ws next year) right?


User currently offlineNuD38 From Germany, joined Jan 2011, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11968 times:
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Hello everyone,

I would like to thank LAXintl for starting July thread. I might not contribute often but I enjoy reading the discussions.

There were gossips about TK and LH join venture/partnership/increased connection/etc... Any news on that side? LH was having big troubles a year ago and I can imagine it was more likely to look for radical/new solutions to solve problems. I believe LH started to see the light at the end of the tunnel after the last improvements and decisions taken by the governing bodies. It looks like an agreement between two carriers for an improved cooperation has a lower chance than last year.

Rights to operate six daily flights to Japan is amazing and I would like to see how it will be utilized.

It is great to see all contributing members as usual.

NuD38


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 11903 times:

I read the first Turkish Technic manufactured seat has been delivered to TK and is awaiting certification.

Carrier plans to retrofit the new economy seats later this year into 25 B737-800 aircraft.

In addition to TK, they also seek to sell the seats to other airlines, and are developing another version for longhaul travel and eventually a business class seat.

http://blog.apex.aero/cabin-interior...manufacturer-plans-sales-airlines/

Quoting tkfan (Reply 8):
from the filing to Borsa Istanbul

Thanks. One gets dizzy keeping track of the narrow body fleet changes.



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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 11901 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 9):
where is TK787 wasn't he to start this topic?

Traditionally LAXintl is the one who starts this thread monthly...

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
Good news. Will they be refurbished to meet actual TK standards? What is the interior of the ex-QR A332s that joins a few years ago?

Looking back at the leases in the past (TG 77Ws, QR332s, Meridiana 332s, LX/EZ 320s), none of those frames got the interior to match TK standards but Gulfair frames seem to be leased for 6 years so they may as well be refurbished... They will need this extra capacity on long haul routes as well so it makes sense...

Having recently moved to Washington DC, I am waiting TK to change the AC on IST-IAD to 333 or 77W now... I am currently holding 2 return tickets and hoping for an aircraft change... 343s in Y arent all that bad though...



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 11855 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 16):
Traditionally LAXintl is the one who starts this thread monthly...

I have only seen TK787 do it.


User currently offlineMeCe From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11788 times:

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 16):
Looking back at the leases in the past (TG 77Ws, QR332s, Meridiana 332s, LX/EZ 320s), none of those frames got the interior to match TK standards but Gulfair frames seem to be leased for 6 years so they may as well be refurbished... They will need this extra capacity on long haul routes as well so it makes sense...




As you mentioned, leased frames never got before heavy modification for have standard (actually TK 's own fleet has no standard) interior. Keeping cabin fresh is expensive work but making a whole cabin like your own product is completely different story. These planes generally used as feeder planes, for make TK's own long haul birds free for long haul operations.


User currently offlinetolmachevo From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11763 times:

Are there only 4 TK A321 aircraft with AVOD in Y? Where are these mainly used? Randomly or on longer routes. I had the "luxury" of one flying back to TXL a few months ago and was wondering what my chances are on my next BRU-IST-BJV-IST-TXL trip in September... For BRU-IST and IST-TXL A321 are in the booking system but who knows on the day...

User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11719 times:

any word if TK will try and expand in India again? I know the tourism minsters had the meeting months and months ago but nothing came of it....

User currently offlineSteelyman From Andorra, joined Feb 2007, 118 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 weeks ago) and read 11559 times:

Quoting tolmachevo (Reply 19):

No, there are around 20, from TC-JRN until TC-JS...



BRGDS, Mike
User currently offlinestylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 weeks ago) and read 11541 times:

Quoting tolmachevo (Reply 19):
Quoting Steelyman (Reply 21):

...and also all 739 which have been often swapped for 321 - atleast on my trips.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 15):

any picture available of the new seat?


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11385 times:

LAXintl, thank you as always for starting the thread.

-TK announces serving domestic destinations Sirnak and Bingol. Totaling, 38 Domestic destinations??
-Aqaba goes up to 5 x weekly, Hurghada and Sharm el Sheik goes daily starting Nov.
http://kokpit.aero/thy-kis-tarifesinde-sefer-arttiriyor
-Also, I know he is too busy these days, but a.net member "Wing" was in Hamburg last week, receiving the latest THY A321, TC-JSJ. Maybe he can chime in here to tell about his experience.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11350 times:

I hear Hong Kong Airlines has applied to serve Istanbul using dual class A330. Though I heard it might route via Almaty Kazakhstan.

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 22):
any picture available of the new seat?

Not very detailed, but here you go. Though I am not 100% certain this is the final finished product.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 25, posted (1 year 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11502 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 23):
-Aqaba goes up to 5 x weekly, Hurghada and Sharm el Sheik goes daily starting Nov.

Welcome back   SSH seems to be popular still despite issues in other Egyptian cities. Hopefully it stays that way.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 24):
Not very detailed, but here you go. Though I am not 100% certain this is the final finished product.

If they turn out like those in the images they look quite comfortable and nice.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 26, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11250 times:

More records being set....
In June Antalya set a new monthly passenger record of 1.62mil, and on June 29th also broke its movement record achieving 937 aircraft.
All the more impressive as the new nearby Alanya airport is now operating and bleeding traffic away with 8 airlines operating there already.


Also Turkey and Algeria just announced a new bilateral. Turkish carriers will be given access to 4 more cities in Algeria (Batna, Constantine, Oran, Tlemcen). Total allowed weekly frequencies for each side will rise to 35 passenger flights, and 7 cargo service.



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User currently offlinethaiflyer From Thailand, joined Oct 2007, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11326 times:

I believe that TK stops with the BKK - SGN flight (TK-68) from 1 November.
Therefore the TK-68 will only operate the IST - BKK leg.
Does anybody knows if the departure times from IST and BKK will change and if so what the new departure will be.
As usual Turkish Airlines does not provide any solid information.


User currently onlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4498 posts, RR: 72
Reply 28, posted (1 year 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11308 times:

Quoting thaiflyer (Reply 27):
I believe that TK stops with the BKK - SGN flight (TK-68) from 1 November

That's the first I hear about that and so far the SGN flights are still open for booking. The only change that will happen is that from 01OCT the IST BKK SGN route reverts to A343 from the current B77W. It seems that the aircraft is swapped with the IST GRU EZE route which will operate with B77W from October onwards.


User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11215 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 26):
Also Turkey and Algeria just announced a new bilateral. Turkish carriers will be given access to 4 more cities in Algeria (Batna, Constantine, Oran, Tlemcen). Total allowed weekly frequencies for each side will rise to 35 passenger flights, and 7 cargo service.

I saw that IST-ALG is a daily A333. I believe that they go 2daily and downgrade the aircraft to narrowbody and free the A333.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
TK Japan manager says NGO, FUK, HND

In that case TK would be the european airline with the most Japan destinations.


User currently offlineTK105 From Turkey, joined Mar 2013, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11061 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):

Thanks for the new thread.

Passenger numbers for June13 has been announced by DHMI. IST continues its perfect performance. ESB is also performing very well. It is quite probable that both ESB and ADB will surpass 10M annual passenger numbers.

I had a day return trip to MUC by LH. Early morning flight for ESB-MUC was half empty but evening flight for MUC-ESB was completely packed. Though I was traveling in Y, on MUC-ESB route I was shocked when FA asked me what I would like to drink by calling my last name. Quite impressive. Probably LH is targeting TK EP card holders!

Passenger composition on LH MUC-ESB flights are Turkish people traveling to Americas as well as usual Turkish Diaspora and European Businessmen.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 31, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11029 times:

Speaking about LH and Ankara, they announced last month they were dropping FRA-ESB effective September 12.
MUC-ESB remain 2x daily.

Quoting TK105 (Reply 30):
Passenger numbers for June13 has been announced by DHMI. IST continues its perfect performance.

   yes another record month all around.

I heard the Ministry of Transport estimated they 2013 would see 140 million trips taken in Turkey. Up from almost 130mil individual trips in 2012. Pretty amazing that back in 2003 prior to deregulation the count was under 30 million !

Also according to HUBroutes stats, the Istanbul market alone grew at whopping 71.3% in mere 3-years since July 2010.



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 32, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10855 times:

This evening was perfect for some plane spotting up in Northern Connecticut.
First one I saw JFK-WAW LO 767, second I wasn't sure but yes, very happy to spot TK7 IST-IAD flying at 40,000 feet.


User currently offlineankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 33, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10468 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 31):

LH operates FRA ESB during summer timetable only. This year they will cease service mid-September instead of end of October. The service will be reinstated again in April 2014.

TK also started to operate ESB FRA that they operated by AJet before and this may be a reason for early suspension this term by LH. Another point to note is that AC and UA now fly direct to IST and offer codeshare connection to ESB for IST by TK. Both UA and AC used LH for their codeshare flights to/from ESB and North America before. This is a likely loss of premium pax by LH on FRA ESB sector.

LH also upgraded MUC ESB to A321 since two years now so 2 x 321 is also quite a capacity increase.

Last but not least there is significant growth in ESB Germany traffic for the obvious reasons as usual but with increased frequencies and stiff competiton by several LC carriers.

LH is also reviewing a third daily MUC ESB from summer 2014.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17361 posts, RR: 46
Reply 34, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10378 times:

How is IAH doing? They're filing some obscene fares undercutting everyone from LHR to BOM and everywhere in between, which would lead me to believe it's not doing well.


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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 35, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10194 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):

How is IAH doing? They're filing some obscene fares undercutting everyone from LHR to BOM and everywhere in between, which would lead me to believe it's not doing well.

I had a trip to BLR-IAH in May and another in June, and both times TK was much costlier than the competition (even when looking at the fares ex-BOM/DEL).

I just checked fares, and BOM-IST on TK is quoting INR64K (Jul 17 - 31), compared to 73K on EK and 85K on LH. So definitely a fare sale/ drop going on...

[Edited 2013-07-08 04:52:15]


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 36, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10142 times:

I'll be visiting Istanbul fairly shortly and wish to have a few hours watching the movements at IST (I don't take photos or registrations). Would you recommend the terminal (landside/airside) or FlyInn? If the latter, how much would you say a taxi would cost from Sultanamet and would the driver find it OK? Thanks for your help.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 37, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10051 times:

Some good news for Russia air links.

Russia side has agreed to double designation of carriers on routes, and accordingly has authorized Transaero schedule rights to Antalya and Istanbul. While Transaero last year carried 1mil passengers to Turkey, this was all under charter authority, but the carrier will now be able to link Moscow to both Antalya and Istanbul with 7 weekly frequencies each operated as a scheduled flight.

This bodes good news for other Turkish carriers. For instance Pegasus has to date be shut out of the large Russia market due to the single designation restriction which saw only TK be able to represent the Turkish side.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):
How is IAH doing?

Loads are decent

First 2-months were 78.1% with about a 60/40 Houston point of sale split. They just also added 2 more weekly frequencies this week for the remainder of the season.

But keep in mind, TK does not really make money on longhauls on stand alone basis. Most of the network is a loss leader but provides incredible connectivity to the bread and butter European and regional network.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17361 posts, RR: 46
Reply 38, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9947 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):
provides incredible connectivity to the bread and butter European and regional network.

At around $800rt all in, these fares are certainly not covering the segment let alone the beyond portion.



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User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9886 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 35):

I had a trip to BLR-IAH in May and another in June, and both times TK was much costlier than the competition (even when looking at the fares ex-BOM/DEL).

I just checked fares, and BOM-IST on TK is quoting INR64K (Jul 17 - 31), compared to 73K on EK and 85K on LH. So definitely a fare sale/ drop going on...

how about fares from BLR-IAH? I am assuming that fare would include the cost of the AI connection to BOM.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 40, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9894 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 36):
how much would you say a taxi would cost from Sultanamet and would the driver find it OK?

Cab drivers might not be able to locate easily. Come prepared with a smart phone or a printout. From SultanAhmet to Flyinn should be around $30-40. Flyinn is a very nice location to spot. When done, a quick hop to the terminals. Bon Voyage!


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 41, posted (1 year 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9741 times:

A TK flight to BOM diverted to KHI few days back due to medical emergency was it a 777?

User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 42, posted (1 year 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9648 times:

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 39):
how about fares from BLR-IAH? I am assuming that fare would include the cost of the AI connection to BOM.

Did not show up on ITA Matrix for some reason. I had to explicitly search for BOM-IAH to find TK!



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User currently offlineTK105 From Turkey, joined Mar 2013, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 9397 times:

ESB new hangars are ready and waiting for governmental A332. When is it coming?



Today I had another day return trip to SAW with Anadolujet operated by XQ. I would like to ask to our experts on this form: Unlike TK, XQ pilots uses around 60 to 80% power while take off and once plane climbs to around 1000ft, pilot applies full power to engines. What are the reasons for this practice?


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 44, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9139 times:

Interesting figures from TK witth regards the make up of its Pilots.

Non Turkish Pilots as follows :

Total 357

53 Greeks / 43 Spanish / 42 Italians / 27 Germans / 16 English / 16 Australians / 14 French.

2229 Pilots work at TK in total.

Article in Greek / Turkish only :

Οι Έλληνες πιλότοι απογειώνουν τις Τουρκικές Αερογραμμές

Σύμφωνα με τα στοιχεία των Τουρκικών Αερογραμμών που δημοσιεύει η εφημερίδα Habertürk, το μεγαλύτερο ποσοστό των ξένων κυβερνητών στις Τουρκικές Αερεογραμμές, είναι Έλληνες!
Στην εταιρεία σήμερα απασχολούνται 357 ξένοι πιλότοι απ’αυτούς οι 53 είναι Έλληνες, οι 43 Ισπανοί και οι 42 Ιταλοί.

http://www.turkishgreeknews.org/oi-e...s-toyrkikes-aerogrammes/10355.html

Türk Hava Yolları'nda Yunan pilot sayısı arttı

Haberturk'ten Gökhan Artan'ın haberine göre 41 ülkeden 357 yabancı pilotun istihdam edildiği şirkette çalışan Yunan pilot sayısı 53'e ulaşarak rekor kırdı. Ekonomik krizdeki AB ülkelerinden İspanya 43 pilotla ikinci sırada. İspanyolları 42 pilotla da İtalyanlar takip ediyor. Kurumda 1 Nisan itibarıyla toplam 2 bin 229 Türk pilot uçuyor.

http://www.turkishgreeknews.org/tr/t...unan-pilot-sayisi-artti/10350.html

With lack of Pilot jobs at home Greeks have opted for TK and IST due to its easy access for commuting between ATH and IST.


User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 45, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8816 times:

I just heard rumors, that SAGA AIRLINES returned their sole A320 after Ghadames Air Transport took delivery of an own A320.

AFAIK, a Turkish AOC is only issued to airlines with 3 or more aircrafts - SAGA now cuts this requirement. So, is there AOC suspended?


User currently offlineMeCe From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8691 times:

Quoting MeCe (Reply 11):
Construction begun on military side of Ataturk airport, some bunkers is demolishing. They are building some cargo area at the end of runway to clear mess on cargo terminal.



I am making correct myself.

Yes they started demolish bunkers but only a turtle speed. I saw only 2 machines yesterday but they are not working after 5 pm. I cant imagine how stupidly they manage this organisation.


User currently offlineumit From Turkey, joined May 2009, 127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 47, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8518 times:

I heard that United will stop flying to Istanbul by october.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 48, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8515 times:

Yes last flight 25-26Oct with the IATA schedule change.


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User currently offlinecuban8 From Kiribati, joined Sep 2009, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8448 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):
First 2-months were 78.1% with about a 60/40 Houston point of sale split. They just also added 2 more weekly frequencies this week for the remainder of the season.

Do you have the numbers for TK during June? Would be interesting to know if TK was really affected by the Gezi parki demonstrations!! According to news reports and booking sites (which we should always take with a pinch of salt), tourism to Istanbul was down by 50% for quite some time during June.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 50, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8429 times:

Quoting cuban8 (Reply 49):
tourism to Istanbul was down by 50% for quite some time during June

I doubt it effected much of TKs transit passengers but the Istanbul bound city breakers it most certainly had an impact. Also around that time there were many deals to be had for the Med.beach resorts. Prices from Ireland and UK were slashed. You could get a week from DUB in a 4* Hotel for EUR299 all in.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 51, posted (1 year 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 8394 times:

I should have the overall June TK traffic reports in the next week or so, but I don't think there was a traffic decline at the end when the numbers get published.

As DHMI has reported Turkish airports saw record arrivals in June;
IST +18%
SAW +18%
ESB +16%
ADA +13%
ADB +10%
AYT +8%
etc...

I know TK performance out of markets like North America was very strong for the month as well, with continued good future bookings.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8411 times:

According to an article in the Dutch transport paper "Nieuwsblad Transport", TK hopes to start cargo flights to the US in Q4 2013 or at least H1 2014. They're currently evaluating which transit point to use and Maastricht (an important cargo destinations fdor TK at the moment) and Brussels are candidates. The destination which TK is going to fly to is also not 100% certain but it will be either New York, Chicago, Houston or Atlanta.

User currently offlinetkfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 53, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8293 times:

Quoting umit (Reply 47):
I heard that United will stop flying to Istanbul by october.
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 48):
Yes last flight 25-26Oct with the IATA schedule change.

Quit interesting, is it only seasonal like Delta?

TK than will have a monopoly on IST-NYC, possible that they keep the third daily in winter or even shift the third daily to EWR??


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 54, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8291 times:

Quoting tkfan (Reply 53):
possible that they keep the third daily in winter or even shift the third daily to EWR??

For the moment, W13 TK JFK-IST down to 6 x 77W and 8 X 333.
I wonder how AC is doing?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 55, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8225 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 52):
According to an article in the Dutch transport paper "Nieuwsblad Transport", TK hopes to start cargo flights to the US

Better term would be "resume".

TK has served JFK with its own cargo flights before. They even for a period leased an Atlas 747 via AMS prior.

p.s. - speaking of cargo A310F TC-JCY was retired last week.

[Edited 2013-07-14 09:05:46]


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17361 posts, RR: 46
Reply 56, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8173 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 54):
I wonder how AC is doing?

Probably about as well as UA, minus the little high yield traffic UA may have been able to scare up...



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 57, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8108 times:

AC has one big leg up on UA. They fully codeshare with TK now on each others YYZ flights, have some 20 odd Canadian codeshare points plus 30 odd ones on the TK network. Also customer service is shared with use of each others lounges etc.

UA on the other hand took the lone wolf approach, barely has any codeshares with TK, no preferred through fare agreements, no joint handling, all result of it preference to stick to its A++ JV.



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User currently offlinerobcol99 From Turkey, joined Jun 2004, 294 posts, RR: 2
Reply 58, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7832 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 57):

wow. what a pity. i just flew a fully loaded ewr-ist flight yesterday.



it will be a pity to see no us airline serving ist after such a long time.

[Edited 2013-07-15 13:52:04]

User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7517 times:

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/201...sis-emboldened-by-etihad-deal.html

well, here is some news that is of interest to me and others that travel to India often:

"Late last week, The Times of India reported Turkish Airlines, one of the world’s fastest growing airlines in the world, wanted to more than quintuple its Indian footprint, requesting an increase in weekly seat allocation from 4,000 to 20,000 seats per week, and gain access to Bangalore, Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad, Amritsar, and Ahmedabad."


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7399 times:

Does anybody know something about TK Cargo's A310F?

I read last about they will leave the fleet and TC-JCY had left in the last weeks?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 61, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7309 times:

Yes I posted in reply 55, that JCY retired. That leaves single owned A310F (plus one they lease from MNG). Plan was always to draw them down in favor of the A330F.


In other news, Pegasus today announced it picked the CFM LEAP-1A engine for its 100 A320NEO family orders.



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User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days ago) and read 7118 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 61):

Thanks LAXintl. Yeah I saw this reply but TC-JCY is flown yesterday Maastricht-IST.
The planes are old, but I like the A310s. It's very pity.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4880 posts, RR: 25
Reply 63, posted (1 year 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7093 times:
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Quoting robcol99 (Reply 58):
it will be a pity to see no us airline serving ist after such a long time.

Delta, for now, will continue to serve IST on a seasonal basis (restarting spring 2014).


User currently offlineankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 64, posted (1 year 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6814 times:

TK suspended five weekly ESB IKA flights due to low yield from IKA very recently. The economic downturn in Iran is showing its effects.

IR and Mahan Air continue their direct service between IKA and ESB.

It is expected for TK to reinstate these flights in the near future depending on developments in Iran.


User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6549 times:

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 59):
"Late last week, The Times of India reported Turkish Airlines, one of the world’s fastest growing airlines in the world, wanted to more than quintuple its Indian footprint, requesting an increase in weekly seat allocation from 4,000 to 20,000 seats per week, and gain access to Bangalore, Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad, Amritsar, and Ahmedabad."

That would be so great. It would affect TK's US and UK ops very positively.

What about growth in Pakistan? What are the actual flight rights?


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 66, posted (1 year 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6450 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 65):
That would be so great. It would affect TK's US and UK ops very positively.

  

EK/EY/QR have been doing this for a while ... in fact, their roles as the ME3 global airlines ride a lot on Indian traffic. Getting the Indian rights will be a strong boost. A similar situation happenned in Bangladesh ... TK's DAC service went from 4w to 5w to daily within a relatively short period.

Pakistan have a lot of traffic as well. How is the security situation affecting flights, any idea?


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

TK converts 5 B777-300ER Options to firm orders. Delivery: 2016-2017.

Source: Airkule (turkish)


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 68, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 67):

-This has been in TK's books all along. I have no idea when it was converted but here is the 777W delivery schedule;
2014= 3
2015= 7
2016= 5
2017= 5

-According to CH Aviation news, Pegasus leased 4 x 320-200s from Irish lessor, Avalon.


User currently offlineankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 69, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5926 times:

AZ disclosed their 2013-2016 business plan recently

http://corporate.alitalia.it/en/media/press-releases/03-07-2013.html

According to their immediate network expansion Ankara "ESB" still remains in their top priority among various other European destinations.


User currently offlineNorthstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5890 times:

How many 77Ws will they have in total? 32 + 3 from Jet?

That's a lot of big planes  



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 71, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 70):
How many 77Ws will they have in total? 32 + 3 from Jet?

I think the 3 leased from Jet will be returned as soon as the owned frames arrive, next year??
By the end of 2014 (in 18 months) 7 x 333s and 3 x 77Ws to join TK,
Another 8 x 333s and 7 x 77Ws join in 2015. (Oh yes, plus another 16 x A321s and 9 x 738s.)

That is a lot of BIG planes for IST. So 3 leased 77Ws will leave by then and maybe some 343s.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 72, posted (1 year 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5667 times:

TK's inflight magazine now has its own website and URL.

http://www.skylife.com/

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 59):
"Late last week, The Times of India reported Turkish Airlines, one of the world’s fastest growing airlines in the world, wanted to more than quintuple its Indian footprint, requesting an increase in weekly seat allocation from 4,000 to 20,000 seats per week, and gain access to Bangalore, Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad, Amritsar, and Ahmedabad."

Yes wishing it great, but until the Indian authorities authorize the flights, all the wishing in the world does not matter.

For over 2-years now both TK and Turkish government has tried to prod their Indian counterparts.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 73, posted (1 year 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5351 times:

I saw Atlasjet just received an A321 from GE Capital. Press release says this is their 15th aircraft.


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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 74, posted (1 year 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

So the airforce has left IST and this will be used as parking spots for 26 single aisle, 17 twin aisle jets. Also there are plans to add more gates to the international terminal further into the Cargo areas, since TK is building a new Cargo area.
Any idea, how many more gates will be added?
Where is the new Cargo area is going to be build?
Thanks.


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 75, posted (1 year 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4957 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 74):

So the airforce has left IST and this will be used as parking spots for 26 single aisle, 17 twin aisle jets. Also there are plans to add more gates to the international terminal further into the Cargo areas, since TK is building a new Cargo area.
Any idea, how many more gates will be added?
Where is the new Cargo area is going to be build?
Thanks.

I have to say, I was expecting (or hoping, I might say) this. In my mind, the new airport would probably be significantly functional in or around 2020 ... with TK's explosive growth, the existing terminal simply wouldn't do until then. Maybe you guys knew it already!

Looking at a Google Maps satellite view of IST cargo area .... it looks like 6 (six) gates can be added fairly quickly using the existing cargo ramp ... and maybe 4-5 more with some additional groundwork along runway 05/23 (but that would add quite a bit of cost). Instead, developing the ex-military area would be better. Even a whole new terminal (ala FRA T3) wouldn't surprise me  


User currently offlineMeCe From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 76, posted (1 year 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4846 times:

Cargo area has 6 parking spots as T1- T6, they are 3 narrow body and 3 A330 size. Building a terminal extension and gates will be costly but unavoidable I think. I Hope there will be A380 gates and TK livery on these A380  

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 77, posted (1 year 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4760 times:

Skylife photo competiton. Win free flights etc...

http://yarisma.skylife.com/en/default.aspx

First Prize: Turkish Airlines' flight ticket worth of $15,000

Second Prize: Turkish Airlines' flight ticket worth of $6,000

Third Prize: Turkish Airlines' flight ticket worth of $3,000

Additionally, 80 photos which will be chosen by jury, will be exhibited and the holders of these photos will be also awarded with a Turkish Airlines plane model.


User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 8
Reply 78, posted (1 year 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4677 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 77):
Skylife photo competiton. Win free flights etc...

http://yarisma.skylife.com/en/default.aspx

First Prize: Turkish Airlines' flight ticket worth of $15,000

Second Prize: Turkish Airlines' flight ticket worth of $6,000

Third Prize: Turkish Airlines' flight ticket worth of $3,000

Additionally, 80 photos which will be chosen by jury, will be exhibited and the holders of these photos will be also awarded with a Turkish Airlines plane model.

I sent a photo I took in Prague last year... Let's see if it gets me at least an airplane model  



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User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (1 year 3 days ago) and read 4493 times:

TK to start Boston in May 2014.

Source: airlineroute


User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (1 year 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4283 times:

Am i seeing in correctly that IST-MLE-CMB is in winter up from 4w to 7w?

User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (1 year 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 72):

Yes wishing it great, but until the Indian authorities authorize the flights, all the wishing in the world does not matter.

For over 2-years now both TK and Turkish government has tried to prod their Indian counterparts.

maybe this Jet-Etihad deal will be the spark needed for TK, hopefully.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 82, posted (1 year 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4096 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 80):
Am i seeing in correctly that IST-MLE-CMB is in winter up from 4w to 7w?

Yes it certainly looks like it going by the schedules.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 83, posted (1 year 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3909 times:

Port of Authority of NY&NJ has selected TAV to be one the remaining qualified finalist for the rights to reconstruct and operate terminals at LGA.

The TAV bid is a joint venture consortium made up of Aeroports de Paris (ADP) and U.S. investment bank Goldman Sachs.



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 84, posted (1 year 19 hours ago) and read 3797 times:

Looks like TK exercised its options for another 3 x 333s, to be delivered 2015-2016
http://www.turkishairlines.com/tr-tr...iklamalari/borsa-aciklamalari-2013


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 85, posted (1 year 2 hours ago) and read 3599 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 77):

does the picture have to include a bridge?


User currently offlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined exactly 5 years ago today! , 532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (1 year 1 hour ago) and read 3583 times:

Booked my first ever TK flight for Dec. from LAX. This will be my 2nd longst flight ever, just beating out JFK-AUH. Im curious as to why seats are not bookable until the end of september. Its not like TK can do LAX with another type.

I will be curious as to how their Y product compares with EY. I am looking very much forward to a few days in IST on my way back from TBS.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 87, posted (1 year 1 hour ago) and read 3573 times:

Quoting timpdx (Reply 86):
why seats are not bookable until the end of september.

No idea. Since I fly with TK for mostly business, my tix are bought only days in advance. I think I'm flying next Tuesday JFK-IST but still don't have a ticket. But I always check in 24 hours in advance online and get a seat assignment and it always works. So, my suggestion is to go online check in as soon as you can (24 hrs prior) to be able to get the aisle or the window seats. Maybe someone else can recommend getting a seat assignment earlier. I haven't done that before so I can't comment.
It is a long flight, expect a full flight. Bon Voyage.


User currently offlineMiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 941 posts, RR: 42
Reply 88, posted (1 year 1 hour ago) and read 3570 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
TK will further improve is Business product.
o Expansion to Americas will be a focus in 2014 for TK - IST-CCS-BOG and IST-HAV-MEX routes planned plus one or two more cities in the US.

Let's hope those "one or two" routes are MIA and SFO.   

-Miami   



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User currently offlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined exactly 5 years ago today! , 532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 1 hour ago) and read 3571 times:

Thx TK787. I have only heard good things about TK. 9Y in the 777 is nice, and, as always, looking for that window seat. Got some great Greenland pics when I flew in winter FCO-LAX.

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 90, posted (1 year 1 hour ago) and read 3566 times:

Quoting timpdx (Reply 89):
9Y in the 777 is nice

I know LAX is a bit busier with single daily flight, but if you arrive early at the airport and they have avail. seats you can upgrade to Comfort Class for around 200euros. You can only do this on the day of. 2-3-2 seating and lot more space, just check out the specs at TK's website.

Quoting Miami (Reply 88):
Let's hope those "one or two" routes are MIA and SFO.

As far as I know ATL, YUL and SFO are the only N.American cities still being mentioned by TK, besides the ones mentioned in your quote. One can only guess that MIA is the logical next city.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24884 posts, RR: 46
Reply 91, posted (12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3526 times:

You can book a seat by calling reservations a few months out. Normally they are available starting 90-100 days out from you flight.

Also as mentioned if you can try to purchase an upgrade to Comfort Class the day of your flight at the ticket counter. They go first come, first serve. Big bargain and worth it imo.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 92, posted (12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

Turkish Airlines to start Tehran cargo flights this week

The national flag carrier airline of Turkey, Turkish Airlines, will begin its cargo flights to the Iranian capital city of Tehran later this week.

Turkish Airlines announced on Monday that the flights are planned as one per week, and will start as of July 31.

In April, Turkish Minister of Development Cevdet Yilmaz called for the expansion of economic ties with neighboring Islamic Republic despite foreign pressures.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07...lines-to-begin-iran-cargo-flights/

---
Turkish Airlines Investigated for Tax Fraud in Israel

Turkish Airlines' Israeli office is currently being investigated for alleged tax evasion amounting to over 1.5 million shekels ($418,000), the Justice Ministry said Monday, according to the Israel Hayom daily.

The newspaper quoted a statement published by the Ministry which said that the Tel Aviv District Prosecution's Taxes and Economics Department is considering pressing criminal charges against the company as well as the head of its local office, Fatih Dogan, for failing to meet Israel's Tax Authority guidelines for foreign companies operating in Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/170399#.Ufi_CxaRBhM

According to TK they are blaming wrong advice from their tax advisors.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 93, posted (12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Anyone has info on the loads to JFK IST 77W flights on August 5th, next Monday.
I specifically want to know which flight has more Comfort class seats avail. So I can maybe upgrade at the airport.
Thanks.


User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 94, posted (12 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Quoting Miami (Reply 88):
Let's hope those "one or two" routes are MIA and SFO.

"one" has been taken by BOS. Now ATL, MIA and SFO needs to fight out for "two" 

me thinks Latin America is next ... either the IST-HAV-MEX or the IST-CCS-BOG routing


User currently offlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined exactly 5 years ago today! , 532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (12 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3267 times:

Thx for the heads up on the Y+ day of option - TK787 & LAXintl

That warrants an early arrival at LAX for sure. On seatguru I saw how generous the Y+ on TK is, wow


User currently offlineMiami From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 941 posts, RR: 42
Reply 96, posted (12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3232 times:
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Quoting ASA (Reply 95):
"one" has been taken by BOS. Now ATL, MIA and SFO needs to fight out for "two"

Very good point... I didn't realize this thread is about 2 months old..   



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4394 posts, RR: 12
Reply 97, posted (12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

Please continue here:
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