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BA Training Flights For A380 And B787  
User currently offlineuta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 32663 times:
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I cannot believe BA have not flown their shiny new planes from Heathrow yet.

It's been nearly two weeks. Are they really that different from previous new planes joining the fleet?

Why not simply sub them into the fleet now? They have had four years to plan for this.

It cannot take three months to train crews, that already fly A and B types.

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User currently offlineLofty From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 32383 times:

They have not been flown but the A380 has not been sitting around doing nothing. Today is the seconf day it has been in T5 for gound trails etc. It has also simunlated a LAX flight with staff as pax.
Most training is for Ground and Cabin Crew more than flight crew.


User currently offlinee195 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 204 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 32342 times:
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The ground flight to LAX (without moving) was very nice indeed.


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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3907 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 32297 times:

Quoting uta999 (Thread starter):
I cannot believe BA have not flown their shiny new planes from Heathrow yet.

It's been nearly two weeks. Are they really that different from previous new planes joining the fleet?

Why not simply sub them into the fleet now? They have had four years to plan for this.

It cannot take three months to train crews, that already fly A and B types.

If passengers on the first flight don't receive the service they feel entitled to the whole World will soon know via Twitter & Facebook.
It might all look very easy, but the galley layouts and stowages will be different to anything the crews have operated before, they need to know how things work, where they are etc in order that they can efficiently operate from day 1. It won't take three months and hasn't been timetabled as such. The first publicised definite flights for the A380 are approx. 2.5 months from delivery, quite a few short haul flights will take place before then.

Everyone needs to know how to handle a new aircraft, the ground crew need to be able to get the baggage on board the plane has to push back without hitting anyone, the terminal staff need to direct passengers to the right airbridge.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8110 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 32062 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 3):
It might all look very easy, but the galley layouts and stowages will be different to anything the crews have operated before, they need to know how things work, where they are etc in order that they can efficiently operate from day 1.

Sounds as if BA learnt a lot from when they launched their last major introduction to their operations, T5.

Quoting Lofty (Reply 1):
It has also simunlated a LAX flight with staff as pax.

Sounds a much better way than training cabin crew and other ground staff on an old frame that is different to anything they will actually encounter:


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This training programme, however, is in stark contrast to the flight programme of the last BA introduction of a totally new type, the 777.

G-ZZZA was delivered on 20 May 1996. It arrived at LHR on its delivery flight on 21 May. The next day, 22 May, it operated its first revenue flight, BA123 (LHR-DXB-MCT).

In the period 23 May to 11 June it operated every day. Over the next few days it completed a further four LHR-DXB-MCT-DXB-LHR rotations. It also flew two rotations to RUH, four to CAI and three to JED. On completion of the last of these rotations to JED on 5 June it operated its first short-haul revenue "training" rotation to CDG (BA322/23) before commencing its next rotation to RUH that same evening.

On its return from RUH it again operated a rotation to CDG on 6 June. It then took a brief rest before flying off on the BA123 four-flight rotation on the evening of 7 June. On the following four days it again operated the four-sector BA123/22 rotation. So when it landed at LHR early in the morning of 12 June, the twenty-second day after its arrival at LHR, it had completed 64 revenue sector flights in just three weeks.

I guess that a part of the reason for the differences between the 772A and 380 launch programmes is that with its large fleet of bigger 742s and 744s the 772A offered no new challenges to BA in terms of pre-boarding, boarding and disembarkation. And here it is not just a matter of the numerical difference between 281 and 469 passengers. The logistics of boarding and disembarking those passengers onto a 380 will be entirely different to anything they have previously experienced.

We can be sure that the British media will cover the inaugural 380 flight to LAX. It looks as if BA are determined to do everything they can to ensure that it will be a very smooth operation and that the Daily Mail is given no opportunity to denigrate their operations..


User currently offline1400mph From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2013, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 31894 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 4):
It looks as if BA are determined to do everything they can to ensure that it will be a very smooth operation and that the Daily Mail is given no opportunity to denigrate their operations..

For sure but to be fair the Daily Mail do seem a little less harsh in their critique these days.

I think they realised that whilst having its obvious advantages two runway LHR pre Terminal 5 was not the easiest place to run an airline like BA.


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2621 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 31820 times:
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Quoting VV701 (Reply 4):
This training programme, however, is in stark contrast to the flight programme of the last BA introduction of a totally new type, the 777.

G-ZZZA was delivered on 20 May 1996. It arrived at LHR on its delivery flight on 21 May. The next day, 22 May, it operated its first revenue flight, BA123 (LHR-DXB-MCT)

The current programme is different to the 777's introduction, but while G-ZZZA did go straight onto long-haul ops (albeit non-ETOPS ones due to issues with the GE90 at the time) but it wasn't the first 777 delivered to BA.

Since BA was the first customer of the GE90 engines it's aircraft first 2 aircraft were involved in the certification of the type, and were delivered last out of the initial batch.

The initial introduction of the 777 at BA was purely short-haul to build experience, exactly the same as with the A380 and 787, but for a far shorter timespan - the 777 did almost immediately start long-haul operations to Dubai and Muscat in November 1995. This was probably more due to the lateness of the aircraft and BA allowing themselves to be rushed to get the plane into service.

In terms of delivery dates;

G-ZZZC 11 Nov 1995
G-ZZZD 28 Dec 1995
G-ZZZE 12 Jan 1996
G-ZZZA 20 May 1996
G-ZZZB 28 Mar 1997

The 777's introduction at BA was a bit of a mess, as these articles from the time show;
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1995/1995%20-%202455.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1995/1995%20-%202813.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1995/1995%20-%203177.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1995/1995%20-%203431.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1995/1995%20-%203682.html

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 800 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 31732 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 4):
This training programme, however, is in stark contrast to the flight programme of the last BA introduction of a totally new type, the 777.

Thanks for that, that was a great run down and perspective on it. I do understand this however why such caution with the 787?

Also, Singapore Airlines took delivery of 9V-SKA on the 16/10/07 and it entered service SIN-SYD on the 25/10/07. I seem to remember SQ stating its A380s as having the highest dispatch reliability in it's fleet in 2008.

With Qantas, VH-OQA was delivered on the 19/09/08 and entered service MEL-LAX on the 20/10/08.

What are BA so afraid of?

Thanks

[Edited 2013-07-11 06:01:53]


A380 Crew
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 31538 times:

Quoting uta999 (Thread starter):
It's been nearly two weeks.

Test flights to Manston are slated for next week.



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User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 877 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 31534 times:

Training flight for B787 is LHR - ARN

Cheers 



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User currently offlinetheobcman From UK - England, joined Nov 2010, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 31258 times:

Quoting solnabo (Reply 9):

Are there any dates for LHR-ARN 787 ops yet ??

Or will it be a BA secret surprise when you turn up at the gate to board an A320 ???


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 30432 times:

Dates and flight details for the B787 short haul ops have been revealed to some crew who have been rostered to operate them next month!

However to avoid disappointment they are not to be published just in case for whatever reason the aircraft has to be removed and replaced with its normal scheduled equipment!



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User currently offlineavion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 29938 times:

Quoting Crosswind (Reply 6):
The initial introduction of the 777 at BA was purely short-haul to build experience, exactly the same as with the A380 and 787, but for a far shorter timespan - the 777 did almost immediately start long-haul operations to Dubai and Muscat in November 1995. This was probably more due to the lateness of the aircraft and BA allowing themselves to be rushed to get the plane into service.

In terms of delivery dates;

G-ZZZC 11 Nov 1995
G-ZZZD 28 Dec 1995
G-ZZZE 12 Jan 1996
G-ZZZA 20 May 1996
G-ZZZB 28 Mar 1997

Yes, and it wasn't all plane sailing. I was on 'ZZC in Jan 96, and we left for an evening CDG flight very late because of an engine issue. I recall either the FO or captain blaming the newness of the aircraft and the engineering department's unfamiliarity that meant the delay was going to be quite long.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8110 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 28802 times:

Quoting Crosswind (Reply 6):
The current programme is different to the 777's introduction, but while G-ZZZA did go straight onto long-haul ops (albeit non-ETOPS ones due to issues with the GE90 at the time) but it wasn't the first 777 delivered to BA.

Thanks for the correction. I had a recollection that Boeing retained the first BA 772A like it retained their first 763. But that was my mistake. It was not the first but the first two 772As that were held back and I did not check that.

The introduction into service for G-ZZZC was rather different to that of 'ZA. Its delivery flight arrived at LHR on 12 November 1995. It entered service five days later when on 17 November it flew off on the LHR-DXB-MCT (Muscat, Oman)-DXB-LHR (BA123/22) rotation.

It then operated BA123/22 on each of the following four days. After it arrived back at LHR on 21 November it visited BA's Engineering Base.

On the evening of 22 November it returned to service operating LHR-DXB-MCT (BA123). It was then again dedicated to the BA123/22 rotation for the next seven days.

When it returned to LHR on 28 November it operated LHR-RVN -LHR that day using its registration as its call sign. This is a rather early for a charter to see Father Christmas and the call-sign is not a standard BA charter call sign. So I wonder if this was a cold climate test flight.

On the following day (29 November) it was flown to and from SNN (call sign BAW9563/64) for flight crew training.

On 30 November it returned to scheduled operations and was again dedicated to the BA123/22 rotation. Apart from when it visited maintenance on 5/6 December it continued to operate this rotation until it returned to LHR early on 12 December. It then paid another quick visit to BA Maintenance before returning to the BA123/22 rotation on the evening of 13 December. It was again dedicated to this rotation operating it every day until 8 January except on 19/20, 25/26 and 26/27 December.

On arriving at LHR on 8 January it again visited BA Maintenance returning to service on the morning of 11 January when it operated three LHR-CDG-LHR rotations (BA304/05, BA314/15 and BA322/23). These were its first scheduled short-haul "training" flights. The three rotations were then flown on the next four days up to and including 17 January except on the thirteenth when it did not operate the first CDG rotation of the day.

Quoting avion660 (Reply 12):
Yes, and it wasn't all plane sailing. I was on 'ZZC in Jan 96, and we left for an evening CDG flight very late because of an engine issue.

I believe you were quite unlucky. I am assuming your flight was BA322 on 16 January, As far as I can determine this flight and the return BA323 that both operated between 3 and 4 hours behind schedule were the only flights in the first three months of operation that were seriously delayed.

After the CDG rotations 'ZC returned to mid-haul operations on 18 January when it was temporarily dedicated to the LHR-CAI-LHR (BA155/54) rotation. On completing the flight from CAI on 20 January it was rededicated to the three training rotations to CDG except for a single LHR-DXB-MCT-DXB-LHR rotation on 23/24 January.

I believe the last CDG rotation was on 27 January. After that it operated to DXB/MCT or to CAI except on 9 February when it operated to and from SNN as BA9489/90 purely for training purposes. This may have been its last training flight at least until the fleet was expanded and the need for trained flight crew grew.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 27589 times:

LHR-FRA will be operated by the A380 on the following dates:

August the 21st will be operated on flight BA910
August the 22nd will be operated on flight BA902

Subject to change.

[Edited 2013-07-12 00:49:11]


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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2949 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 27492 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 11):
Dates and flight details for the B787 short haul ops have been revealed to some crew who have been rostered to operate them next month!

However to avoid disappointment they are not to be published just in case for whatever reason the aircraft has to be removed and replaced with its normal scheduled equipment!

We need an aviation version of Assange... BALeaks   

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
LHR-FRA will be operated by the A380 on the following dates:

August the 21st will be operated on flight BA910
August the 22nd will be operated on flight BA902

Dang, I´m just returning from SIN that week, fares doesn´t look too bad but I will be too wrecked (and poor), hopefully BA will do some more afterwards.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineavion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 27491 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 13):
I am assuming your flight was BA322

spot on.

And thanks for the detailed listing: very interesting.

[Edited 2013-07-12 00:38:17]

User currently offlineuta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 27198 times:
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Come on BA...

Both the 787 and A380 have been flying with other carriers for over two years! They normally enter service just a week after delivery, sometimes two or three days.

Its like buying a new car, then leaving on the drive for a month.

The longer they leave it, the greater the press hype when it happens.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 26797 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 8):
Test flights to Manston are slated for next week.

The BA A380 is scheduled to arrive in Manston on Monday.

http://www.facebook.com/ManstonAirport/posts/604764342901047



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User currently offlineBA677 From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 26492 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 18):
The BA A380 is scheduled to arrive in Manston on Monday.



And so are the Red Arrows scheduled to arrive at Manston at 12 aswell on Monday. Then only to Depart again at 3   

http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/teamnews/...5CE99B0-5056-A318-A87D19EF1F04A2FE

[Edited 2013-07-13 14:08:46]

[Edited 2013-07-13 14:10:12]

User currently offlineby738 From St. Vincent and the Grenadines, joined Sep 2000, 2567 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 26358 times:

Lots of A380 action at MSE next week, a full team of BA staff are relocating to MSE for the week, from crew to ground and handling and trainers.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 25796 times:

G-XLEA airborne, this is the first BA test flight.

http://fr24.com/BAW380

http://oi39.tinypic.com/13zyftd.jpg



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User currently offlineuta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 25744 times:
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She is on her way back to Airbus in Toulouse

That can't be good


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 25734 times:

No, FR24 still shows the path from July 4.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 25542 times:

G-XLEA made a touch & go at Vatry Chalons Airport.


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User currently offlinegazzadon From United Kingdom, joined May 2013, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 25925 times:

G-XLEA is showing on flightradar that it is bound for LHR at 12:07 GMT but i thought it was going to MSE at 12:05 for training..

User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 26, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 25886 times:

Flight number is the same as the delivery, hence it shows up as TLS-LHR. It's based at Manston until the 29th. Will be doing flights to Vatry and Chaeauroux.

User currently offlinegazzadon From United Kingdom, joined May 2013, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 26341 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 26):

just double checked and you are spot on.


User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 28, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 26341 times:

There's a notam for a photo shoot with the Red Arrows over the North sea close to Manston between 1500 & 1600.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 29, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 26276 times:

Done & done.

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2hohirq.jpg



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User currently offlineby738 From St. Vincent and the Grenadines, joined Sep 2000, 2567 posts, RR: 1
Reply 30, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 26205 times:

I remember they did the same publicity pics with red arrows with Concorde and QE2 !

User currently offlineBA677 From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 26170 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 28):
There's a notam for a photo shoot with the Red Arrows over the North sea close to Manston between 1500 & 1600.



My thoughts came true. 


User currently offlinepsimpson From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 25996 times:

Also the BA A380 is planned to do a flypast at RIAT Fairford this Saturday 20th July accompanied by the Red Arrows.

User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 33, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 25966 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 29):
Done & done.

Think that was just a missed approach.


User currently offlineevomutant From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 25933 times:

What's the point of the Red Arrows gimmicks?

Must cost them a fortune to hire them out, and for what?


User currently offlinespeedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 35, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 25822 times:

Quoting evomutant (Reply 34):

Because its fun and makes people feel good to see. What's the point of anything. Be happy!


User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 845 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 25823 times:

The cost of the red arrows could have been used to increase the redundancy offer made to the pursers?


We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.
User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 25709 times:

Quoting APYu (Reply 36):
The cost of the red arrows could have been used to increase the redundancy offer made to the pursers?

Sad as it is that people are being made redundant the cost argument you put forward could be applied to all marketing expenditure [because when all said and done this is a promotional exercise] which doesn't have an immediate link to increased sales - but it increases awareness; alters perceptions and ultimately helps to increase [or at the worse stop a reduction in] sales and protect more jobs for the future.


User currently offlineshankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1554 posts, RR: 1
Reply 38, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 25726 times:

Quoting APYu (Reply 36):


The cost of the red arrows could have been used to increase the redundancy offer made to the pursers?

I wonder what its like to go through life with a pint half full mentality?

The sun is out, BA has taken delivery of its most important plane since the 744, and the reds are hot to trot....just enjoy the moment! Can't wait for the pictures



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User currently offlineevomutant From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 25662 times:

I just think it's overkill for an aircraft that has been in operational service with many carriers around the world for years. It's not a novelty any more.

Still, their money.


User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 40, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 25679 times:

They're off.



User currently offlinetrent900 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 543 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 25687 times:

Currently just out of Dover. Look how low they are! I'd love to be watching this from the cliffs.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 768 File size: 200kb


Aircraft(A388)
Airbus A380-841

Registration(40688B) G-XLEA

Altitude 750 ft

Vertical Speed 0 fpm

Speed 266 kt

Radar T-EGMH3

Squawk
4260

[Edited 2013-07-15 08:02:42]

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8110 posts, RR: 25
Reply 42, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 25632 times:

Quoting evomutant (Reply 34):
What's the point of the Red Arrows gimmicks?

I believe there are two purposes for the A 380 / Red Arrows sortie over the North Sea today., Monday. One is a photo opportunity that will be used for world wide promotional purposes. The second is a dress rehersal for the formation flight at next Saturday's Royal International Air Tattoo which is the world's largest military air show that usually attracts around 160,000 visitors plus extensive media coverage.

This year the participants will include the Belgian, Brazilian, Estonian, Finnish (plus Finnish Army Aviation), French, German (plus German Navy), Greek, Hungarian,, Irish, Italian, Polish, (plus Polish Navy), Portuguese, Royal Danish, Royal Jordanian, Royal Netherlands, Royal Norwegian, Royal Air Force of Oman, Swedish and Swiss as well as the Royal Air Force.

In addition to displays by the RAF Red Arrows there will be displays by the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (Lancaster + Spitfire + Hurricane), the Royal Navy Historical Flight, Patrouille de France (the French Air Force display team), Il Frecce (the Italian Air Force display team), the Royal Jordanian Falcons, the Swiss Air Force PC-7 Team and the Breitling Wingwalkers.

Classic Jets present will include the Avro Vulcan and the Gloster Meteor. Warbirds will include the Boeing Flying Fortress and Consolidated Catalina. Civilian registered aircraft will range from the Lockheed Super Constellation to the A400M and from the Saab 2000 to the Piper PA28 Warrior.

What will the highlight be? For many (including much of the media) it will be the A380 (resplendent in BA livery) and the Red Arrows in their formation fly past. (Check out the photo data base in two or three weeks time for conformation.) And both the rehearsal and the fly past will be part and parcel of the BA flight crew training programme. It would cost a fortune to buy the equivalent to this free publicity. And if the Royal Jordanian Falcons think it worthwhile to fly in from the Middle East then flying the 380 from MSE to FFD (which is no more than 137 miles) really is a no brainer.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13386 posts, RR: 77
Reply 43, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 25306 times:

Quoting evomutant (Reply 34):
What's the point of the Red Arrows gimmicks?

Must cost them a fortune to hire them out, and for what?

BA have a long relationship with the Red Arrows, most notably during the Concorde era where we did several shoots with them and the 2002 Golden Jubilee flypast. But contacts have still been maintained since.
Given that both will be involved with the huge air tattoo at Fairford, given that it's the first time the two types will do a formation together, the photo shoot will also have a training purpose.
Even though we'd done shoots with the Arrows before, in 2002 we still did training sorties before with them. We were after all going to be flying over huge crowds in London.

They'll also be huge crowds at the airshow.
What a marketing scoop, likely TV reporting too.
Better than paying for some newspaper ads.

So in that respect, working with the most famous flying display team in the world, things haven't changed.
But other things have at BA, including a section of staff, those you alluded to, don't get to hold the rest of the airline to ransom anymore.


User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 845 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 25166 times:

We can all admire the photos while waiting in the queues at terminal 5.

But if they can attach a banner to the back of it announcing the reinstatement of the hot buffet in the Galleries Club lounge then I would say bravo to that.



We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 45, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 24938 times:

Pictures of the landing at Manston can be found here:

http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/sto...013-07-15/a380-to-land-at-manston/



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User currently onlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 24897 times:

What an exciting time for BA- two all-new fleet types, the A380 and 787 within the same year.

Will any of the 787s by the way have a First Class cabin or will they all be in a C/Y+/Y configuration?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 47, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 24898 times:

Quoting AT (Reply 46):
Will any of the 787s by the way have a First Class cabin or will they all be in a C/Y+/Y configuration?

Check http://www.seatplans.com/airlines/british-airways/seatplans/B787 for a seat map.



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User currently offlineJohnwaynebobbet From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2013, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 24804 times:

Quoting shankly (Reply 38):
BA has taken delivery of its most important plane since the 744

Correct the 787 arrived a few days before and will open up new emerging markets that have not been viable up to now. Hence the vast difference in order quantities.


User currently offlineJohnwaynebobbet From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2013, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 24798 times:

Quoting evomutant (Reply 39):
I just think it's overkill for an aircraft that has been in operational service with many carriers around the world for years. It's not a novelty any more.

Its one up on Dickie, they are rubbing his nose in it just as he would if the ball was on the other foot.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13386 posts, RR: 77
Reply 50, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 24793 times:

Quoting Johnwaynebobbet (Reply 49):
Its one up on Dickie, they are rubbing his nose in it just as he would if the ball was on the other foot.

Maybe in an understated way, me, I'd use quotes from all of Branson's BS from the time he ordered A380's, about being the first UK A380 operator, all that bling he was going to have in the cabins, how his shiny new A380 fleet would compare to BA's old 747's.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8110 posts, RR: 25
Reply 51, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 24513 times:

Quoting AT (Reply 46):
Will any of the 787s by the way have a First Class cabin or will they all be in a C/Y+/Y configuration?

I believe that BA have orders in hand for six 767 8s, 18 787 9s, twelve 787 10s and a further 6 frames of which the type has yet to be announced or firmed up.

None of the 787 8s will have an F Class cabin. I would guess that all of the 787 9s will be furbished with four classes including an F Cabin. I would be very surprised if the 10s did not have an F Cabin. But a lot can change between now and when the 10s enter service . So we will have to wait and see.


User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 24566 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 26):
Will be doing flights to Vatry and Chaeauroux

Can anyone shed any light why those two particular airports were chosen for A380 training flights?

[Edited 2013-07-16 03:02:16]

User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2186 posts, RR: 7
Reply 53, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 24500 times:

I have flown into Vatry before, huge runway and minimal traffic.

User currently offlinebluesky73 From UK - England, joined Oct 2012, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 24398 times:

I still think an air to air shot of G-XLEA with G-ZBJA & JB on each wingtip flying in formation would be great.

We had the famous picture of 4 Concordes flying together, the 3 above flying together would be magnificent!

[Edited 2013-07-16 04:24:19]

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8110 posts, RR: 25
Reply 55, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 24360 times:

Quoting BA777 (Reply 53):
I have flown into Vatry before, huge runway and minimal traffic.

I think this is also true of CHR and MSE:

Chateauroux runway: 3,500m
Chateauxroux ops: Seasonal flight to Ajaccio

Manston runway: 2,748m
Manston ops: Double-daily flight to Amsterdam plus cargo flights

Vatry runway: 3,860m
Vatry ops: Ryanair (three destinations), JetAir (one destination), Luxair (two destinations), Polet Airlines (one destination) plus cargo flights


User currently offlineRebelDJ From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 24281 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 45):
Pictures of the landing at Manston can be found here:http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/sto...013-07-15/a380-to-land-at-manston/

Love it! "At the moment there are no plans for British Airways to operate any scheduled flights out of Manston"


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 57, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 24392 times:

Here, the A380 with a Red Arrow:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPStumTCEAEAD3a.jpg:large



http://twitter.com/LHRDirector/status/357101286526685185/photo/1



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 58, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 23777 times:

One more:

http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/a380_...?id=1&storyId=1.2282410.1374046356



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 59, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 23536 times:

Found another one:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPXWsl1CMAAOkFQ.jpg:large


http://twitter.com/FlightDKM/status/357427806990381056/photo/1



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User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 23243 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 57):
One more:

Thanks for sharing - the one over the white cliffs [even though there isn't a red arrow in sight] is my favourite.


User currently offlineuta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 22442 times:
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How are BA doing with the two new 787s at Heathrow?

They must need a lot of training, even though its been in service with other carriers for over two years.

It can't be that hard to fly surely.


User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 62, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 21340 times:

ZBJA is up for a spin, headed north as BA9174. Due back LHR around 6pm

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 63, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 20640 times:

The 787 is finally in the air.

http://fr24.com/BAW9159

http://oi40.tinypic.com/140ywiw.jpg



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User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 64, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 20548 times:

Flew on Saturday! See post above.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 65, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day ago) and read 20086 times:

The A380 will operate LHR-FRA tomorrow.

http://twitter.com/Airport_FRA/status/362179644604157952

Quoting hotplane (Reply 64):
Flew on Saturday! See post above.

Oops  

[Edited 2013-07-30 13:09:25]


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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day ago) and read 20003 times:

Nice shot of the A380 and A318 nose-to-nose at SNN today:

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013/0730/465480-ba-airbus-shannon/

[Edited 2013-07-30 13:35:27]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 67, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day ago) and read 19940 times:

More pictures in Cardiff:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23497181

[Edited 2013-07-30 13:37:01]


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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day ago) and read 19829 times:

Link corrected!


.


User currently offlineSpeedbored From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2013, 858 posts, RR: 5
Reply 69, posted (1 year 10 months 23 hours ago) and read 19826 times:

Quoting EI320 (Reply 66):
Nice shot here of the A380 and A318 nose-to-nose at SNN today:

That's a great picture.


User currently offlinevisualapproach From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 19461 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 65):
The A380 will operate LHR-FRA tomorrow.

Not today, more than likely the first service will leave LHR on Friday.


User currently offlinebaw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2034 posts, RR: 26
Reply 71, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 19377 times:

The idea of BA doing ground trials with both aircraft (especially the 380) make great sense. The 380 is a completely different airplane and there are many things that must be tried and tested before taking the airplane up flying.

Once the ground trials are done, I am certain BA will do a few test flights with both aircraft to make sure that their procedures for operating the aircraft are down before they fly those aircraft far away from Heathrow.

Starting an operation with no prep is not only a bad idea, it's an exercise in frustration and poor judgement.

Good on BA for making sure they get it right....besides, they would not want to break an airplane the first time they take it up with revenue passengers. The press would eat them up...literally.

baw716



David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 72, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 19302 times:

Quoting visualapproach (Reply 70):
Not today, more than likely the first service will leave LHR on Friday.

Well that was misleading from @Airport_FRA!



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User currently onlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4356 posts, RR: 50
Reply 73, posted (1 year 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 19235 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 71):
Well that was misleading from @airport_FRA

No, it was not.

BA..com also clearly mentioned aircraft type 388 for the specific LHR-FRA vv run today.
There must have been issues forcing BA to re-schedule.

Quite bad, a lot of people booked a ticket yesterday to be on todays flight(s).



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User currently offlineJohnwaynebobbet From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2013, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (1 year 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 19064 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 73):
Quite bad, a lot of people booked a ticket yesterday to be on todays flight(s).

Bigger fool them then.


User currently offlineLofty From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (1 year 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 18979 times:

Quoting uta999 (Reply 61):
How are BA doing with the two new 787s at Heathrow?

They must need a lot of training, even though its been in service with other carriers for over two years.

It can't be that hard to fly surely.

Both B787 have had technical issues its not training but 1 of them is now OK.


User currently offlineSpeedbored From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2013, 858 posts, RR: 5
Reply 76, posted (1 year 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 18766 times:

Quoting Lofty (Reply 75):
Both B787 have had technical issues

Ssssshhhhh.

Let's not start another one of those discussions.   


User currently offlineuta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (1 year 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 18817 times:
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Technical issues...

Such as?


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8110 posts, RR: 25
Reply 78, posted (1 year 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 18819 times:

Quoting uta999 (Reply 61):
How are BA doing with the two new 787s at Heathrow?

380 'EA operated the following flight crew training flights:

15 July: LHR-XCR-CHR-MSE
16 July: MSE-XCR-CHR-MSE
17 July: MSE-XCR-CHR-MSE
18 July: MSE-XCR-CHR-MSE-MSE
19 July: MSE-XCR-CHR-XCR-XCR-MSE
20 July: MSE-XCR-MSE-MSE
21 July: (Sunday) -
22 July: MSE-XCR-CHR-XCR--MSE-XCR-CHR-XCR--MSE
23 July: MSE-XCR-CHR-XCR--MSE-XCR-CHR-XCR--MSE
24 July: MSE-XCR-CHR-XCR--MSE-XCR-CHR-XCR--MSE
25 July: MSE-XCR-MSE-XCR-MSE
26 July: MSE-XCR-CHR-MSE-CHR-MSE
27 July: MSE-CHR-MSE-CHR-CHR-CHR--MSE

It then operated the following flights each of which culminated in ground handling trials / training:

29 July: MSE-CWL; CWL-STN
30 July: STN-SNN; SNN-LGW

before it returned to LHR (on 30 July).

It may be coincidence that the 380 operations out of MSE seem to have been completed on Saturday 27 July and those of the 787 G-ZBJA started on Monday 29 July after 'JA had completed an engineering test flight (BA9174E) north to the Isle of Skye and back on 27 July. These are the completed flight crew 787 training flights so far::

29 July: MSE-XCR-MSE
30 July: MSE-XCR-MSE
31 July: MSE-XCR-MSE

However it looks more like a plan to me.


User currently offlinevisualapproach From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (1 year 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 18778 times:

It's now public knowledge, BA902 and BA903 are operated by the A380 on Friday, the first revenue service for BA.

Yours truly will be representing, so look out for a trip report making it's way to your screens on Friday evening.


User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2186 posts, RR: 7
Reply 80, posted (1 year 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 18638 times:

Also 910 and 911 it seems.

User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 81, posted (1 year 10 months 7 hours ago) and read 18594 times:

902 now listed as A380 on ba.com. Hooray!

User currently offlinevisualapproach From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 18416 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 81):
902 now listed as A380 on ba.com. Hooray!

Are you also going to be first to fly?


User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 83, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 18400 times:

May do. Fares seem to have gone up for some reason!

User currently offlineseansasLCY From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 940 posts, RR: 0
Reply 84, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 18364 times:

Does anybody know when we can expect the 787ARN flights?

[Edited 2013-07-31 07:47:23]

User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 85, posted (1 year 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 18293 times:

787 to ARN, isn't it?

User currently offlineseansasLCY From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 940 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (1 year 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 18241 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 85):

787 to ARN, isn't it?

Sorry thats what I meant! I'll edit!


User currently offlineBA677 From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (1 year 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 18163 times:

Just tried to book a return LHR FRA with Avios but they want £112.10 in taxes etc.   

User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3082 posts, RR: 8
Reply 88, posted (1 year 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 18106 times:
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Quoting BA677 (Reply 87):

Just tried to book a return LHR FRA with Avios but they want £112.10 in taxes etc.

Tough - That sounds quite reasonable to me !


User currently offlinesk736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 558 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 18117 times:

Quoting BA677 (Reply 87):

I've just tried and it's given me a reward flight saver fare of £35 + Avios.


User currently offlineBA677 From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (1 year 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 18135 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 88):
Tough - That sounds quite reasonable to me !

Thought it would be the usual £35 for a European reward flight. Gess that goes up then if you book last minute?


User currently offlineBA677 From UK - England, joined Jan 2012, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (1 year 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 18105 times:

Quoting sk736 (Reply 89):
I've just tried and it's given me a reward flight saver fare of £35 + Avios.

I tried again and its still £112.10. What flights are you choosing ?


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13386 posts, RR: 77
Reply 92, posted (1 year 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 17972 times:

Quoting uta999 (Reply 77):
Technical issues...

Such as?

Nothing major and nothing to do with this year's 787 issues.


User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17750 times:

Does anyone know how BA is treating the ELT issue?

Have they checked theirs for pinched wires already?

Are they test flying the 787s with the ELT immobilised/removed/left fully operational?


User currently onlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4356 posts, RR: 50
Reply 94, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17769 times:

Quoting visualapproach (Reply 79):
Yours truly will be representing, so look out for a trip report making it's way to your screens on Friday evening.

Lol, I'm not on it (too expensive, hassle and I've flown numerous A380s), so no rush needed to beat me with the TR  



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7764 posts, RR: 20
Reply 95, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17669 times:

It was a real pleasure to see her at STN the other day. Looked very out of place indeed.


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User currently offlinetugmaster From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 766 posts, RR: 9
Reply 96, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 17689 times:

Try two singles...

LHR BA910 FRA
FRA BA911 LHR

Both are available for £17.50 each way....

Bargain.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 97, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17321 times:

Quoting tugmaster (Reply 96):
Both are available for £17.50 each way....

  I see £186 for a one trip LHR-FRA.



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User currently offlineSpeedbored From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2013, 858 posts, RR: 5
Reply 98, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17327 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 97):
I see £186 for a one trip LHR-FRA.

I just tried a dummy booking via the Executive Club and it's showing me 4500 Avios + £17.50.

Are you trying to book with Avios from the Executive Club page, after logging in, or just using the booking engine from the BA homepage?

Or maybe try changing your country settings to UK?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 99, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17241 times:

Quoting Speedbored (Reply 98):
or just using the booking engine from the BA homepage?

Yes I'm browsing on ba.com



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User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2186 posts, RR: 7
Reply 100, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17299 times:

Yep booking with Avios you can come back on the A380 on BA911 tomorrow but the BA902 is full, no surprise there! Return using 9000 avios and £35.

User currently offlineSpeedbored From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2013, 858 posts, RR: 5
Reply 101, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 17234 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 99):
Yes I'm browsing on ba.com

Ah. That explains it. The £17.50 price quote was for mileage redemption flights via the Executive Club using Avios miles.

The cash-only prices via the BA homepage are now ~£200+ each way on the A380 flights.


User currently offlineLH422 From Germany, joined Sep 2010, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 102, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 16795 times:

Here's the first picture from FRA:

http://fraaviation.forumsfree.de/t11616-02082013


User currently offlineLZ129 From Germany, joined Feb 2013, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16604 times:

I just saw LEA during one of our sight seeing tours at FRA and I have to say: She is certainly the most beautiful A380 around!
I'm not sure if it's been discussed already, but how does BA accomodate the certainly much longer turnaround time for the A380 (compared to the type it replaced on the LHR-FRA-LHR flight)? I imagine it should mess with their schedule a lot?


User currently offlinesassiciai From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2013, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16555 times:

She is on her way back to LHR, just about to overfly Brussels (and me) at flight level 320, ETA at LHR 12.30 local time

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 105, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 16308 times:

Pictures from FRA:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/axel_j/9419854265/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/axel_j/9419853187/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/axel_j/9422619192/



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User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2339 posts, RR: 3
Reply 106, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 16165 times:

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 84):
Does anybody know when we can expect the 787ARN flights?

My guess is 9 August.



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User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 107, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 16137 times:

Bloody bumpy climbing out of LHR this morning. Lightning about as well.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 108, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 16109 times:

The A380 will operate a second flight to FRA on August 4.

BA902 LHR0645-0930FRA 388
BA903 FRA1110-1150LHR 388



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User currently offlinerichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3778 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 15936 times:

I was on BA910 today, my first A380 flight. I politely asked for a look at the upper deck, but this was refused.
A great flight today, think I'd choose the upper deck next time.


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4161 posts, RR: 33
Reply 110, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 15776 times:

Quoting richardw (Reply 109):
. I politely asked for a look at the upper deck, but this was refused.

I think that is policy.
The fwd staircase is not be used at all, because it goes into first class.
And the rear staircase is discouraged. The aircraft will be operated as two aircraft separately by the cabin crew.


User currently offlinevisualapproach From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 15737 times:

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 110):
I think that is policy.

My understanding from today was that BA wanted to keep it "under wraps" before the inaugural flight to LAX. Some people were allowed a 'quick tour' but photography for the public domain was not permitted.

On a related note, I made a video of today's flight: http://youtu.be/RvFx_OsL5wc


User currently offlineuta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15282 times:
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Both BA 787s are flying today.

One from LHR, over Scotland, the other from Manston, currently over northern France.


User currently offlinerichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3778 posts, RR: 0
Reply 113, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 15060 times:

It was good to see a TG A380 at FRA earlier today, which was another first for me and a LH 748i, so all in all a good trip to FRA and still some avios available for a trip to ARN.

[Edited 2013-08-03 11:37:41]

User currently offlinenimool From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2012, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 14952 times:

Saw the G-XLEA yesterday 2nd august, coming from FRA!


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 11043 posts, RR: 35
Reply 115, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 14944 times:

Quoting visualapproach (Reply 111):
On a related note, I made a video of today's flight: http://youtu.be/RvFx_OsL5wc

Excellent. Glad to hear you got to experience the new BA Moby. I was given a "no pictures allowed" tour as a Airbus chalet guest at the Paris Air Show. I liked what I saw. Beautiful high quality interiors all classes considered.

I saw all the trip reports on another forum. Seems they all had a nice time.

The A380 novelty has long faded but it is always nice to board a brand new aircraft that takes up to the sky with passengers inside. LEA will make a lot of plane spotters happy on both sides of the Channel.

Wish they would have chosen CDG a la Air France A380 then I would have gone right in but Frankfurt?

meh...

  


Ohhhh I forgot... thank you for the splendid viewing of Concorde G-BOAB!!! The Beauty of Heathrow Airport!!!!!

 angel   airplane   cheerful 

[Edited 2013-08-03 13:16:05]


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 11043 posts, RR: 35
Reply 116, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 14868 times:

Quoting BA777 (Reply 100):
Yep booking with Avios you can come back on the A380 on BA911 tomorrow but the BA902 is full, no surprise there! Return using 9000 avios and £35.

The whole FlyerTalk board are filling up the A380 with Avios a great many of them flying in Club World.

 



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineBtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 595 posts, RR: 4
Reply 117, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 14678 times:
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I was at Heathrow today... by sheer chance caught this little beauty on it's way north. It was about 26,000 ft over the Midlands when I checked on Planefinder.

3 August 2013



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 11043 posts, RR: 35
Reply 118, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14419 times:

Quoting Btblue (Reply 117):

Nice catch!

Thank you for posting.

     



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlinevhtje From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14353 times:
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Oh no - we just booked BA902 and BA911 for tomorrow on the spur of the moment:




It was a hideously expensive fare - the tickets came in around £440 per person, for an economy seat. Worth every penny though!

Cannot wait until tomorrow!

[Edited 2013-08-04 03:48:11]

User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 120, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14170 times:

Flight duration is more like 1hr 5mins. Not long enough to enjoy it!

User currently offlineBtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 595 posts, RR: 4
Reply 121, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13952 times:
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Quoting vhtje (Reply 119):

Get some pictures!



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User currently offlineshankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1554 posts, RR: 1
Reply 122, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13784 times:

On the 910 tomorrow and back on the 903 tues with my 8yr old son; both scheduled A380 so fingers X'd


L1011 - P F M
User currently offlineBtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 595 posts, RR: 4
Reply 123, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13474 times:
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Does anybody know if the A380 is going to be operating on the JFK route in November? I'm holding back on booking a trip just in case I can get a ride on it.


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User currently offlinebongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3907 posts, RR: 3
Reply 124, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13483 times:

Quoting Btblue (Reply 123):
Does anybody know if the A380 is going to be operating on the JFK route in November? I'm holding back on booking a trip just in case I can get a ride on it.

The routes announced so far are LAX, HKG & JNB JFK is years away if its ever going to feature at all.


User currently offlineBtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 595 posts, RR: 4
Reply 125, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13470 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 118):

Very welcome Madame.  



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User currently offlineBtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 595 posts, RR: 4
Reply 126, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13469 times:
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Quoting bongodog1964 (Reply 124):

I thought as much but was hoping that maybe it would be doing a few trips. I'll have to see if the 787 does a few routes instead.

Thanks for the info.



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User currently offlineJohnwaynebobbet From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2013, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 127, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13766 times:

Quoting Btblue (Reply 126):
I thought as much but was hoping that maybe it would be doing a few trips. I'll have to see if the 787 does a few routes instead.

I dont think you will see the 787 going to JFK anytime soon either. Its lack of a First cabin on a premium heavy route means its unlikely to go there until the 900 version arrives.


User currently onlinesunrisevalley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 5505 posts, RR: 5
Reply 128, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13743 times:

Quoting Johnwaynebobbet (Reply 127):
I dont think you will see the 787 going to JFK anytime soon either. Its lack of a First cabin on a premium heavy route means its unlikely to go there until the 900 version arrives.

I believe the initial cities are YYZ and EWR. I am shaking my piggy bank to see if premium economy is possible from YYZ late on Dec 24 to have Christmas dinner with my grand kids near Reading.


User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13013 times:

Quoting Btblue (Reply 126):
I thought as much but was hoping that maybe it would be doing a few trips. I'll have to see if the 787 does a few routes instead.

If your only criteria is to go to New York then swap to LHR-EWR rather than JFK and there will be a daily 787 for you to sample.


User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 130, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12880 times:

More ground testing for the A380 this afternoon with 'flight' BA9200 to Nice at 15.00

User currently offlinen729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12653 times:

Quoting vhtje (Reply 119):
It was a hideously expensive fare - the tickets came in around £440 per person, for an economy seat. Worth every penny though!



for £410 you could go to DXB on a QF A380 and come back on a EK one.....!  

...I hope you enjoyed, I wanted to do that flight but not for £400+


User currently offlineshankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1554 posts, RR: 1
Reply 132, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12646 times:

Quoting n729pa (Reply 131):
...I hope you enjoyed, I wanted to do that flight but not for £400+

£70 with AVIOS for me and the lad....best £70 I've spent in ages

77 passengers on an A380....once in a lifetime experience!



L1011 - P F M
User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 25183 posts, RR: 55
Reply 133, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12221 times:

A 787 is due into Newcastle tomorrow, arrives at 10am, leaves at 1pm.


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 134, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11962 times:

Should be leaving LHR at 16.05L for NCL and EDI.

User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2186 posts, RR: 7
Reply 135, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11746 times:

So are we a couple of weeks away from the 787 going to ARN do we think?

User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2339 posts, RR: 3
Reply 136, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11654 times:

On the BA booking engine, I can see on 9 August a 787 listed on BA 780 LHR-ARN, and BA 781 back. It's the flight which is usually operated by a 763.


Top 10 airplanes: B737, T154, B747, IL96, T134, IL62, A320, MD80, B757, DC10
User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2339 posts, RR: 3
Reply 137, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11612 times:

Last week, Qatar came with their first 788 to ARN.

First QR 788 arriving:



This week, BA is visiting. And soon, DY will start flights.



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User currently offlineB738flyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 138, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11444 times:

Quoting RedChili (Reply 137):

Last week, Qatar came with their first 788 to ARN.

Nice pic... the same ac was here in ZRH on the 14. Jan 13. Remember that cold early morning.


User currently offlineB738flyUIA From Kazakhstan, joined Dec 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11470 times:

back to post.

Today in local Radio they mentioned that BA wanted to come to ZRH with the A380. Negative told the local airport authorities as in Dock E there is only one A380 Gate available. Well not correct. SQ was on E67 and now changed to E52 or 56. They have two docks for the A380 and EK will be arriving on the 01. Jan 14 with a daily A380 service. What a pity that BA will not come.

Sure will catch her one day somewhere  


User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 140, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11134 times:

ZBJA is doing the BA1463 EDI flight tonight. First commercial flight.

User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 25183 posts, RR: 55
Reply 141, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11092 times:

Currently doing a flypast at RR and EMA before heading to NCL. ETA 10am, it'll then depart NCL for EDI at approx 1pm.


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2186 posts, RR: 7
Reply 142, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10945 times:

Very nice, when we hear about more flights I'd be very interested as I'd like to try and get on one soon.

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8110 posts, RR: 25
Reply 143, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10916 times:

Quoting gkirk (Reply 141):
Currently doing a flypast at RR

Circled for around 20 minutes west of Peterborough before making several passes over the RR factory at Derby at between 1,100 and 1,800 feet.


User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2339 posts, RR: 3
Reply 144, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10438 times:

Flight BA780 arriving at ARN today. I believe this was the first BA 788 flight with passengers on board?




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User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 25183 posts, RR: 55
Reply 145, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10373 times:

Quoting RedChili (Reply 144):
Flight BA780 arriving at ARN today. I believe this was the first BA 788 flight with passengers on board?

Scheduled flight yes. There was an EDI-EDI charter flown yesterday with people onboard



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 146, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9938 times:

ZBJA is doing ARN today. First pax flight for this one.

User currently onlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4161 posts, RR: 33
Reply 147, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9326 times:

All the A380 FRA flights so far have been with lower deck only. The upper deck has been blocked off.
The BA910 and 911 on Thursday 15th will be operated with only the top deck used. The lower deck will be blocked off.


User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2557 posts, RR: 27
Reply 148, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9055 times:

Quoting RedChili (Reply 144):

What a beauty.

I was so lucky as to see one of BA's new A380s parked at a remote stand by the hangars at LHR, next to a bunch of 744s. Incredible, how large it is...never ceases to amaze, even after flying on an AF A380 and seeing numerous others.

Now, I'm very excited to catch a ride one day on the 787. Its amazing how compact it looks, although its actually a fair bit larger than the 763. I've attributed it to the lower slung nose shape and what appears to be landing gear that are not quite as tall as on the 767.

-AA777


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 149, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8515 times:

G-ZBJB in Newcastle.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRo649rCEAMQGcl.png:large

http://twitter.com/VatsimUK_Pilots/status/367671069882060801



Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2943 posts, RR: 25
Reply 150, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8389 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 149):


G-ZBJB in Newcastle

??? Please tell me that you forgot to add the smiley in your post.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 14826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 151, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8372 times:

I've been fooled by a flight simulator model.


Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 152, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8410 times:

Any more A380 upper deck only flights planned?

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8110 posts, RR: 25
Reply 153, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8249 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 152):
Any more A380 upper deck only flights planned?

There have been 17 revenue generating rotations completed by 'EA between LHR and FRA with its upper deck blocked off. So I would expect to see quite a few more with only the upper deck cabin in use so as to familiarise cabin crew with their new charge. Otherwise it seems to me that the switch from using the main to using the upper deck would have occurred some rotations back.


User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2943 posts, RR: 25
Reply 154, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7932 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 151):

I've been fooled by a flight simulator model.

But by a pretty good picture.  


User currently offlineTheReckoner From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 155, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7817 times:

787 at NCL:
http://flic.kr/p/fqqW4X


User currently offlinesassiciai From UK - Scotland, joined Jan 2013, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 156, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7589 times:

Can any BA insider tell us of any first impressions that BA has of these two new types. I know that neither is flying sectors that it is designed for, but some opinions must have been formed already, particularly of the A380 as it seems (see post above) to have 17 rotations LHR - FRA - LHR as of yesterday (and it is on another return leg as I write this post, as seen on FR24)

User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 157, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7176 times:

I am booked on BA0903 (A380 FRA-LHR) and BA0780 (B787 LHR-ARN) on Wednesday, 21st.

Now, while the seatmap on BA works perfectly for the A380, I have trouble with the 787 seatmap: The map won't show - you can select the passenger to be seated, but there is no layout where you yould choose your seat.
Has anyone experienced this, too?

Thanks!


User currently offlineIanWylie From UK - England, joined Jun 2013, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 158, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7119 times:

BA911 arriving on 27L last night (Friday):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ianwylie/9530180416/lightbox/


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 159, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7034 times:

Quoting DUSint (Reply 157):

There are a few selected non 787 days next week on the ARN. I know Monday and Tuesday are definitely going to be operated as a 787 but after that I'm not sure.



My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 160, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6850 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 159):
There are a few selected non 787 days next week on the ARN. I know Monday and Tuesday are definitely going to be operated as a 787 but after that I'm not sure.

Yes, thanks, Wednesday is also shown as "Boeing 787 jet" - however, the seatmap doesn't work for me.
Oh well, so I will save the GBP 10,-...


User currently onlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4161 posts, RR: 33
Reply 161, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6429 times:

Quoting hotplane (Reply 152):
Any more A380 upper deck only flights planned?

Yes BA910/911 on 20 August.

Quoting tonystan (Reply 159):
There are a few selected non 787 days next week on the ARN.

Are you sure?
All our system shows B787 every day, would love to know. I can have a day off!


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 162, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6310 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 161):

Lol, some crew have already had their "non spec serv" days removed and replaced!

Who knows though?



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User currently offlinen729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6014 times:

I tried the A380 to FRA on Fri, very very hot cabin on board as we were boarding, it was funny looking at everyone's faces as they got down the back of the plane, one lady was sweating like a race horse you could see it running down her face and neck! It was very hot though inside, it made you drowsy too, once it was airborne the temperature was OK (or I'd got used to it). No individual air fans either, a bit of a surprise. The coffee was tepid too, I heard several people complaining, I'm used to drinking cold coffee so didn't bother. Still wouldn't have missed it though. A bit more work required before they get ready for a full load to LAX I fancy though.

User currently offlineafriwing From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 164, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5950 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 161):
Quoting hotplane (Reply 152):
Any more A380 upper deck only flights planned?

Yes BA910/911 on 20 August.

Oh noo .. I've booked on the 21st Aug BA902/903 thinking it might be upper deck

Any idea when are the other upper deck flights? .. looks like I'll have to book another flight     



afriwing
User currently offlineDUSint From Germany, joined Apr 2013, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 165, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

The BA-seatmap for BA780 on the 21st works now.
One funny thing I notice is the ability to choose seats in WT+ while having booked Y only...


User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2254 posts, RR: 34
Reply 166, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5620 times:

Quoting n729pa (Reply 163):
No individual air fans either, a bit of a surprise.

None of BA's widebodies have air vents.


User currently offlinen729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 167, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5291 times:

Quoting runway23 (Reply 166):
None of BA's widebodies have air vents.



Interesting. Thanks for that information. I don't normally fly BA longhaul, (last time was 1986) so never knew that.


User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 3137 posts, RR: 2
Reply 168, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5235 times:

Quoting AA777 (Reply 148):

While arriving yesterday to FRA on an SQ A380, I saw one of BA's A380 at one of the gates. Very sharp looking!



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User currently offlinen729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 169, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4954 times:

Does anyone know how much longer the 787 flights to ARN will last please?

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17361 posts, RR: 10
Reply 170, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Quoting n729pa (Reply 169):

The 787 will be used on BA780/781 until 8/31.



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 171, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4690 times:

A380 FRA flights extended to October.

www.airlineroute.net/2013/08/21/ba-3...A+airlineroutenews+(Airline+Route)


User currently offlineLofty From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 172, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4461 times:

The B787 first LH flight will be the BA093 on the 1st Sep

User currently offlinehotplane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 173, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4398 times:

I've heard tomorrow's 902 is upper deck only.

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