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Its Here Finally! The American A319 Part 2  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12104 posts, RR: 18
Posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 14191 times:
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Link to the origial thread Its Here Finally! The American A319! (by jayeshrulz Jun 21 2013 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlinewilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14035 times:

Nice video, notice the hydralics backup turbine is extended, must be for testing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4fvMeUjA_A&feature=youtu.be


User currently offlineuberflieger From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13922 times:
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very cool video

can anybody confirm N8001N?

thanks



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11357 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13760 times:

How about 2 A319s?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11357 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13665 times:

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 2):
can anybody confirm N8001N?

N8001N is correct. Here is a video of the landing:

http://youtu.be/HseC-u99Lu8



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11357 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13639 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 3):
How about 2 A319s?

And these 2 frames are:

MSN 5678 / D-AVYQ / N8001N
MSN 5698 / D-AVYR / N9002U



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User currently offlinemilestones787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13341 times:

I'm joining this thread a little late...can someone tell me when these are expected to be handed over to AA? Thanks.

User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13337 times:

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):

I'm joining late also, I guess they're abandoning Boeing 737's??

GUYAIR707


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13273 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 7):
I'm joining late also, I guess they're abandoning Boeing 737's??

   they still have tons of 737s on order.



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User currently offlineFSXJunkie From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 13166 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 7):
I'm joining late also, I guess they're abandoning Boeing 737's??

No, American chose to ride the post 9/11 airline crash without bankruptcy (unlike Delta and United who decided that strategic bankruptcy would make them stronger a few years later) in order to accomplish this American delayed the MD-80 retirement. Unfortunately this means American has a problem, the MD-80's have to be phased out on an accelerated schedule to avoid airframe loss and Boeing can't supply enough 737's to meet the new requirement, so American's picking up A319's and A321's to cover the spread.


User currently offlinewilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13032 times:

If I remember correctly AA is leasing these and buying the NEOs when they go into production.

User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12720 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 8):
Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 9):

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineRobt760 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 12626 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 5):
And these 2 frames are:

MSN 5678 / D-AVYQ / N8001N
MSN 5698 / D-AVYR / N9002U

A bit off topic, but...Does anybody have info on the progress of the A321T model that AA is to be receiving some time in Sept/Oct? The production list I saw didn't even list American, but there were several for US Airways about ready to go through.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11357 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12495 times:

Quoting Robt760 (Reply 12):
Does anybody have info on the progress of the A321T model that AA is to be receiving some time in Sept/Oct?

What is the A321T?

But according to my information, AA will receive 2 A321s with sharklets in November and December (MSN 5834 and 5860).



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User currently offlinerojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2446 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12350 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 13):
What is the A321T?

The A321's that AA will use for its transcon flights (JFK-LAX/SFO) that will have F, J, and Y


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11357 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12337 times:

I see. Unfortunately, I have no information about the cabin configuration of the 2 A321s due for the end of the year.


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User currently offlineRobt760 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12041 times:

Quoting rojo (Reply 14):
The A321's that AA will use for its transcon flights (JFK-LAX/SFO) that will have F, J, and Y

Yes,it will be configured as follows: First Class 10 Business Class 72 Coach (with 36 of those being similar to Economy Plus but not labeled as such).

See this article: http://hub.aa.com/en/nr/pressrelease...with-more-comfort-and-connectivity


User currently offlineTristan7977 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11830 times:

Don't the A319/321's get entertainment systems for each seats??? Or will it be for only selected aircraft? And how about the 737's, won't they get them eventually??


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User currently offlineBAW076 From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2006, 750 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11805 times:

When are these due for delivery to AAL?

Regards,
Chris



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11357 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11780 times:

Quoting BAW076 (Reply 18):
When are these due for delivery to AAL?

The schedule:

> MSN 5327 (N9015D) November (ex-testbed)
> MSN 5678 (N8001N) July
> MSN 5698 (N9002U) August
> MSN 5704 (N93003) August
> MSN 5745 (N9004F) September
> MSN 5753 (N4005X) September
> MSN 5761 September
> MSN 5781 October
> MSN 5786 October
> MSN 5788 October
> MSN 5789 October
> MSN 5798 October
> MSN 5810 October
> MSN 5827 November
> MSN 5842 November

Subject to change.



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User currently offlineBAW076 From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2006, 750 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11750 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 19):
The schedule:

> MSN 5327 (N9015D) November (ex-testbed)
> MSN 5678 (N8001N) July
> MSN 5698 (N9002U) August
> MSN 5704 (N93003) August
> MSN 5745 (N9004F) September
> MSN 5753 (N4005X) September
> MSN 5761 September
> MSN 5781 October
> MSN 5786 October
> MSN 5788 October
> MSN 5789 October
> MSN 5798 October
> MSN 5810 October
> MSN 5827 November
> MSN 5842 November

Subject to change.

Thanks for the info!



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User currently offlineJoePatroni707 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11527 times:

Will AA's Airbus have "mood lighting" or standard light bulbs. I know they will all have PTV's for the initial deliveries. Rumor is that AA will discontinue domestic IFE early next year.

User currently onlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3330 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11441 times:

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 21):
Rumor is that AA will discontinue domestic IFE early next year.

A good call, I'd say. With power outlets and inflight Wi-Fi, passengers can now provide their own IFE without the cost and complexity of wiring it into the aircraft.


User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 785 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 10869 times:
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Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):

A good call, I'd say. With power outlets and inflight Wi-Fi, passengers can now provide their own IFE without the cost and complexity of wiring it into the aircraft.

No. It just continues the cluster F@##$ decision making again between old and new AA leadership. Continuing along the lines of adding more seats back into the MCE planes, going back to Eagle pilots for more cuts after a contract had just been ratified and now we're hearing about the removal or IFE less than a year after it is being implemented.

After advertising the make overs for over a year and on the verger of new aircraft delivery with the new interiors, new seats, and IFE it just is going to confuse people even more. What are they going to do just turn it off on the planes that have it so people on those flight continue to think American sucks, their service sucks, and their new planes are already broken or not working? Or maybe they are going to just gut the aircraft and install all new interiors?

While other mergers weren't perfect, they at least presented an early coherent plan and brand for the customers that provided some direction where the airlines were going (for better or worse). I still think the biggest problem with this merger is going to be the lack of direction with respect to where the hard product is going and the changes that are made will be to align AA more with US's mediocre product offering while continuing half-hearted improvements in US's product offerings.

Devaluation of AAdvantage program miles with respect to award travel, likely change in meal service (AA and DL have meals for flights 2 hours or longer while US meals start at flights 3.5 hours and longer), smaller MCE cabins, rumored removal of IFE, etc. the list just goes on.


User currently offlinearffguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10539 times:

N9002U. Really?

Used on one of the early United 737-200s.

How wild is that?



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25 Post contains links miaami : Here are some shots of the new 319 interiors.
26 miaami : for some reason A.net won't accept the link. boardingarea.com/onemileatatime/2013/07/13/pictures-of-americans-new-airbus-a319s/
27 william : 8 First class seats?
28 uberflieger : N8001N should be flying off to her new home any day now somebody in the know? possible stops along the way? thanks
29 Robt760 : These are A-319 Aircraft, right? I was looking at the A321 fleet list and there are no AA orders showing.
30 flyfree727 : AA ORD The A321T (for Transcon) will have 10 lie flat FC seats, 20 lie flat BC seats, 36 Main Cabin Extra (MCE) seats and 36 MC seats. AA ORD
31 KarelXWB : Correct, that list is A319 only. AA will receive only 2 A321 aircraft this year: > MSN 5834 > MSN 5860 Another 20 A321 aircraft are scheduled f
32 KarelXWB : MSN 5704 (N93003), the third AA A319, has been spotted in full paint today.
33 817Dreamliiner : Will delivered Tuesday according to AA
34 JoePatroni707 : WIll it deliver to DFW (DWH) or TUL?? Any event hopefully spotters will be out and ready with cameras.... My little niece looked at a picture of the
35 817Dreamliiner : I assume it would be DFW[Edited 2013-07-19 12:42:51]
36 LH707330 : I saw one doing an approach and go-around at runway 23 in Hamburg Fuhlsbuettel yesterday, are they doing training flights with the DLR?
37 OC2DC : All new deliveries will receive IFE in every seat, that includes new 737 deliveries starting in December. . . This is assuming nothing changes when D
38 ckfred : But for every passenger who comes aboard with a smartphone and tablet/laptop, you might have someone like me who is still trying to figure out how to
39 1337Delta764 : That A.net myth has to stop. Fact is, far more people still use the IFE system than their own devices, and in-flight Wi-Fi providers are bleeding cas
40 Post contains links bmibaby737 : Just to expand on what's already posted above, Planespotters.net American Airlines' listings provide the following details for the upcoming Airbus A31
41 ckfred : Just a bit curious as to why the N-numbers appear out of sequence, and why some N-numbers have a single letter as the last character. Granted, there
42 Post contains links bmibaby737 : I believe fin 015 is the test aircraft, and thus isn't being delivered straight away? As for the registrations, I believe whatever registrations are
43 Post contains images uberflieger : and...? is she home?
44 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : First delivery is imminent. Picture by http://www.flickr.com/photos/erussell1984
45 miaami : The new paint scheme looks great on the new AA 319. Looking forward to seeing these planes flying out of Miami eventually.
46 Post contains links usflyguy : It is... http://variety.com/2013/film/news/sm...es-with-disneys-planes-1200562686/ Fact? Source? You being nosy and looking at what people are doing
47 Post contains links KarelXWB : It is done, AA has taken delivery of its first A319 jet. http://twitter.com/AirbusInTheUS/status/359668593820069888 http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/
48 Post contains images uberflieger : OMG she's g o r g e o u s
49 TUSAA : The first AA A319 is scheduled to fly XFW-BGR-DFW on Saturday the 27th. It's due to arrive DFW at 1600.
50 wimdemeester : It looks like I missed something. I know that earlier AA firmed 130 A321NEO's but that the CEO's didn't still hit the order books. If so how is it the
51 KarelXWB : I believe they were ordered via lessors.
52 jporterfi : Do you have a flight number to go with that routing? FlightAware won't let me look it up by N-number.
53 Post contains links KarelXWB : And here is a video showing the assembly process of the first AA A319: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHSQkmOkaKs
54 817Dreamliiner : Nice Video. Thanks for sharing that.
55 TUSAA : It will be flt 9708
56 Mah4546 : Why do people even start these nonsense rumors? IFE isn't being removed; and 738s will have them with all deliveries starting in October. What is tru
57 b377 : The above information is incorrect according the the AA M&E site. It is scheduled to ferry on the routing, but tomorrow, Jul 24th. The flight num
58 Post contains links KarelXWB : And here is the delivery flight XFW-BGR: http://fr24.com/AAL9707 And BGR-DFW for later: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9707
59 Post contains links KarelXWB : Seems like Avolon is one of the lessors. http://twitter.com/e_russell/status/360019000480112643 http://www.avolon.aero/
60 Post contains links Robt760 : It's on it's way to it's new home in DFW now. ETA 3:30pm http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9707
61 1337Delta764 : In another thread, this was confirmed by an airline crew member (whose post was unfortunately deleted). I highly doubt he/she would be lying. Yet the
62 Post contains links xcoaster1 : Arrival into KDFW today: http://youtu.be/6EDfPTL50iE
63 b377 : Per AA M&E site, the next delivery is scheduled for 27Jul as Flight 2708 and then followed by the third on Aug 1st. All will fly via Bangor
64 Post contains links xcoaster1 : The second delivery today at KDFW [N9002U] http://youtu.be/jb42eahG7Co
65 JoePatroni707 : AA's first A319 will fly tomorrow from DFW to BTM (shows unlinked in BTM). Will operate as AA9140. Assume its more crew training and the like.
66 Robt760 : BTM is a known airport code used for "other" operational uses. AA doesn't fly to any Montana airports. In all likelihood it will be a training flight
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