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Irish 9/13: Summer Is A State Of Mind!  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12597 posts, RR: 34
Posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 25516 times:

Good morning folks and welcome to our newest thread of 2013, on this glorious Summer's day; what a fine day for those of you going out to DUB - no doubt great for photos! Indeed, great for anything ...

It's been an interesting time since the last thread, with plenty of developments, mostly positive.

The highlight, of course, was the announcement by EI of its new YYZ and SFO flights and now, of course, we also know about EI's 757 utilisation. Good news too from EI on the traffic front, with The Gathering contributing to very healthy load factors; EI's t/a traffic is showing very healthy growth and it looks like the A350 will be coming not a moment too soon when it does arrive, around two years from now.

Good to see also that EI is talking to Airbus about the NEO and particularly the A321 NEO, which will ultimately replace the 757s.

Etihad is now flying 777s to DUB and it's good to see that it's holding its own in the Irish market.

Less good news, unfortunately, for Cityjet, which will now longer be flying DUB-CDG on behalf of AF; some rumours speak of an operation by HOP, though the DUB-CDG route would surely sustain a flight by AF itself?

Let's hope Cityjet has a future; it would be a shame to see it go, after struggling for so long.

Most traffic statistics seem to be positive, but in a decision likely to surprise almost no-one, Minoan is to axe its F50 operation to Oxford.

Enjoy the weather folks; have a great day; I'll be out of circulation from next Thursday for about ten days, but I'll look forward to being in touch on my return ...

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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4660 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 25462 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
Good to see also that EI is talking to Airbus about the NEO and particularly the A321 NEO, which will ultimately replace the 757s.

I hope they are also talking to Boeing about the 737 MAX. If they can get a better deal from Boeing they could replace the whole fleet from 2020 onwards for example.

Either way, you would expect the order to be A320/319 NEO as well to get the numbers up to get a bigger discount, with deliveries from the next decade.

Unless the plan is to lease...

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
Let's hope Cityjet has a future; it would be a shame to see it go, after struggling for so long.

I am flying Cityjet for the first time in a couple of weeks time. It will also be my first flight into London City Airport, so I am quite looking forward to it.

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
Most traffic statistics seem to be positive, but in a decision likely to surprise almost no-one, Minoan is to axe its F50 operation to Oxford.

Completely unknown unfortunately. Might have to get my Fokker 50 experience on Cityjet if they don't go under before I get a chance to!



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7311 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 25417 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
Cityjet, which will now longer be flying DUB-CDG on behalf of AF; some rumours speak of an operation by HOP, though the DUB-CDG route would surely sustain a flight by AF itself?

DUB LCY will no longer be flown on behalf of AF. DUB CDG remains a wet lease.

http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...e-franchise-agreement-from-october

I had heard the opposite that WX wet lease flying for them could increase - but time will tell.



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7311 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 25387 times:

Excellent article from CAPA on EI's long haul plans and the strength of Dublin from a North American perspective - larger than gatwick.

Aer Lingus’ Atlantic adventure tests the virtual airline concept

http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...the-virtual-airline-concept-117866


Also a good chart on where the seats are going to this summer.




The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 25346 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
on this glorious Summer's day; what a fine day for those of you going out to DUB - no doubt great for photos! Indeed, great for anything ...

Yes its fab weather here for spotting and pics thats for sure. Long may it last its very un Irish  

With regards to Minoan they didnt advertise at all here which was stupid. Still thats life and they seem to be making more of a success on their Summer Greek Island routes which is good for them.

Cityjet shake up will be interesting to watch . I mentioned last year that there were lots of changes coming to WX/AF at DUB and Skyteam in general.


User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 24653 times:

The upcoming Bray Airshow is to feature on RTE Nationwide programme this evening.

User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24533 times:
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In non commercial aviation news...... the FlightFest facebook page has posted up a silhouette of an aircraft with the tagline "Announcement riddle: If Mr. Spock was an aircraft, what would he be?..."

User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3929 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24510 times:

Absolutely jammers on EI3720 ORKMAN this morning. Seems very heavy with business passengers/day trippers. A few connections onto EK and EY from what I could see. No mention of the EY codeshare, but the EY code is on the monitors at ORK.

Every time I travel I can't help but wish EI would introduce a 100 seat (preferably E-Jet) aircraft. I know EI have consodered it carefully prior to introducing the A319, so the currently available aircraft are not for them. The A319 offers simplicity, especially in the small numbers so far introduced . The E-195-E2 might be a different story in the future I suppose. With 150 seats and GTF it could be a great aircraft for EI, assuming the cost and complexity are not outweighed.

Any news on the 757s? When are we expecting to see the first 757 with a shamrock?



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24490 times:

Its certainly going to be very interesting to see the figures from SNN after the Summer. One carrier is reporting terrible LF's for June and the first week in July South of 50% !! Quite worrying if thats going to be the trend for the Summer.

User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7311 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24466 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 6):
If Mr. Spock was an aircraft, what would he be?..."

The 787 - strangely complicated...



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24425 times:

SNN was evacuated at about 07:15 this morning due to a false fire alarm. Normal ops have since resumed.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/le...ort-following-evacuation-1-5292233

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):

Its certainly going to be very interesting to see the figures from SNN after the Summer. One carrier is reporting terrible LF's for June and the first week in July South of 50% !!

That's disappointing to hear. Thankfully it's not the UA/ORD service which has been doing quite well in terms of loads. I've also heard US/PHL regularly comes in/goes out full (though I don't have detailed information on that). If I was a betting man I'd say BE/GLA.



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24411 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 10):
That's disappointing to hear. Thankfully it's not the UA/ORD service which has been doing quite well in terms of loads. I've also heard US/PHL regularly comes in/goes out full (though I don't have detailed information on that). If I was a betting man I'd say BE/GLA.

Sorry meant to add its a TATL service!! Wouldnt be so worrying if it was just a SNN-UK flight.


User currently offlineirishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24368 times:
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CFN most likely had its busiest day of the year today with 2 Saab 2000's , 1 Bae Jetstream 41 and the usual loganair Saab 340.



Dhún Na Ngall Abú!
User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 24355 times:

Looking at the BA winter schedule. and if its been fully loaded, DUB is down to 6 daily with the last DUB-LHR at 1755, hopefully there is more to be loaded?!

For anyone thats interested, there is a new Ipad app a friend showed me last night called Flight+ full of airline/airport information.


User currently offlineei2ksea From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 24125 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
Sorry meant to add its a TATL service!! Wouldnt be so worrying if it was just a SNN-UK flight.

Well my recent DL JFK-SNN-JFK's were full both ways in June/July midweek - I offered to offload myself at JFK (for $600 and a hotel) as it was oversold by 8 - when I was told the next available flight they could put me on was 2 days out I declined that offer. My sister flew the same flight 5 days later and had the same oversold experience so it seems like that flight is regularly going out full. Anecdotal of course. I would have expected US to be the loser of the pile but EI's higher fares with a larger aircraft in a competitive value obsessed market cant be helping their JFK route right now.



Next Flight: DUB-BOS (EI), BOS-DEN-PDX (SWA), SEA-BOS (AS)
User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 24064 times:

Quoting ei2ksea (Reply 14):
EI's higher fares with a larger aircraft in a competitive value obsessed market cant be helping their JFK route right now.

I was thinking that. It could be TS as well (though that wouldn't be much of a shock given its poor schedule).

In a broader sense, yields have surely dropped back somewhat on Ireland-USA this summer given the increased capacity by all carriers; EI (extra A332 deployed to DUB), DL (3 extra weekly JFK-DUB rotations), AA (new daily JFK-DUB), US (new daily PHL-SNN) and UA (new 5x weekly ORD-SNN). From this early stage various news outlets are reporting an increase in US inbound tourists on last year (just for The Gathering or will numbers continue to increase next year?) but this is probably not enough to maintain yield levels in light of the increased capacity.



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 24034 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 15):
From this early stage various news outlets are reporting an increase in US inbound tourists on last year (just for The Gathering or will numbers continue to increase next year?) but this is probably not enough to maintain yield levels in light of the increased capacity.

Its not just airlines hurting in the Shannon region either. Travel trade in the surrounding area are feeling the pinch also some alot harder than others. Its got nothing to do with people booking direct online either its just the business is not there anymore. Thats feedback from people with over 20 years of experience in the Shannon region. DELL pulling the plug was a huge blow to the region and had a bigger impact than some thought although many predicted it at the time.

Anyway its not all doom and gloom but next Summer will see some adjustments I feel. Over capacity for 2013 could be the word on certain routes and one might be cut totally or made more seasonal .


User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 23888 times:

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 12):

What occasion brought 3 eastern airways ac to CFN? Very impressive sight!

- James



1APR14 Ireland Direct, 3 A380-9LR,Equiped Irish Bar & Casino. All Y+ seating. Serving DUB-PER-SYD/MEL
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 23764 times:

Ryanair 'can't be trusted' to sell Aer Lingus stake

Ryanair shouldn't be allowed to oversee the sale of its near 30pc stake in Aer Lingus because it might otherwise sell it to "allies" who might later be persuaded to accept a fresh takeover offer for its smaller rival, Aer Lingus has argued.

Under takeover rules, Ryanair, headed by Michael O'Leary, is free to launch a fourth bid for Aer Lingus from August 29.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...ell-aer-lingus-stake-29429417.html

I dont see what EI can do to stop FR selling its stake to an ''allie''. Not even the EU comission could get involved if it wasnt justified.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 23655 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 19):

Passengers travelling through Shannon Airport rose 8% in June, according to the airport authority.

Long may the growth continue. Here are some interesting statistics:

"The research shows that of the US transatlantic passengers who arrived through Shannon last year, 46% holidayed in Clare, 43% in Kerry, 30% in Galway, 26% in Dublin, 24% in Cork and 17% in Limerick."

Meanwhile DUB records a 6% increase on last June, transatlantic up 18%: http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...s_Used_Dublin_Airport_in_June.aspx



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 23645 times:

Whilst the figures that have been ''released'' are promising on some routes. Its based on what ? I would like to go more in depth on a route by route,carrier by carrier basis. Not to take away from the increase compared to previous years but not all is what it seems and figures can be promoted in many ways.

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The number of passengers travelling through Shannon Airport rose 8% in June, according to the airport’s authority.

It marks the first time the airport has seen month-on-month growth in passenger numbers in five years, with the airport catering to 160,573 people in June compared to 148,531 in the same month of last year.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013...463197-shannon-airport-passengers/


User currently offlineEI564 From Ireland, joined May 2007, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 23500 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 19):
Long may the growth continue. Here are some interesting statistics:

"The research shows that of the US transatlantic passengers who arrived through Shannon last year, 46% holidayed in Clare, 43% in Kerry, 30% in Galway, 26% in Dublin, 24% in Cork and 17% in Limerick."

I don't think the Dublin figure is significant though? Given the numbers add up to well over 100%, all that those statistics say is that some of the people that holiday in Clare/Kerry also go up to Dublin. I think we all know that US visitors travel around Ireland? Why the airport they visit isn't that important. (Unlke short haul, where people are more liable to stay in the area they arrive in).

Anyhow, Shannon had to grow eventually but good to see that it has finally happened.  


User currently offlinen272wa From Ireland, joined Jun 2007, 410 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 23408 times:

36% rise in TATL services is fanatstic news for Shannon for June!
I guess we can all talk hearsay and believe what we are told, but if there is no figues or exact facts to back these claims up - then it is pure speculation that some routes are underperforming or are not sustainable.

Best of luck to SNN - hope it is a whopper summer for TATL there and that their hard work pays off after all their efforts since DAA separation.



Next: (EI)DUB-ORD-DUB, DUB-EWR-IAH-DFW-MSY-AUS-AMA-DEN-EWR-DUB
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27337 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 23389 times:

Found some SNN and other Irish aviation history in some old boxes :


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http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/photo-35_zps81ffe5b1.jpg

Amazing when you look back on it and all the wonderful routes from SNN on Russian metal .


User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5305 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 23326 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
Etihad is now flying 777s to DUB and it's good to see that it's holding its own in the Irish market.

Partly thanks to me buying 2 tickets.  
Quoting OA260 (Reply 18):
I dont see what EI can do to stop FR selling its stake to an ''allie''. Not even the EU comission could get involved if it wasnt justified.

Exactly, EI should stop crying. Business is Business. It could have been other way around. (* It almost was, 25 years ago )


25 Post contains links and images OA260 : I recently got to finally try out the DUB-SEN route. It had been on my to do list for a while now. My trip report is here : Aer Lingus Regional+ A Rar
26 tonymctigue : Something doesn't quite stack up here although the RTE article does state that the main source of growth was the UA SNN-ORD service. I would suspect
27 AmricanShamrok : From what I've heard from people who've travelled it the last month it has been near full every time. On the whole, USA numbers have increased 38% an
28 Post contains links and images OA260 : Interesting list of stats from the IAA : Air Traffic at Dublin Up for Fourth Consecutive Month Air traffic at Dublin Airport continues to grow, with c
29 Post contains links shamrock350 : Aer Lingus have appointed Rokkan for their European digital work Rokkan will helm a number of digital initiatives for Aer Lingus while also relaunchin
30 tonystan : Interesting. So EI plan on a new website soon?
31 AmricanShamrok : American Airlines flight AA55 (MAN-ORD) made an emergency landing at SNN this afternoon. The aircraft was a 763. Scheduled to be on its way again at 1
32 Post contains links OA260 : A nice bit of old footage here a day in the life on an Aer Lingus B747 Pilot in 1991. http://www.neelb.tv/archives/aer-lingus-training/
33 Post contains links tonymctigue : Just doing a bit of random Google searching and happened upon this 'Midlands Airport calls for ‘community approach’ to civil aviation policy' http
34 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : Update on the AA 767 diverted to SNN yesterday: It departed to ORD as flight AA9271 at 08:10 today, arriving in Chicago at 10:57 local. The flight did
35 Post contains links OA260 : Good news for EIR : Busiest weekend ever for Aer Arann thanks to heatwave AER ARANN is about to enjoy its busiest weekend ever as demand for travel su
36 Eagleboy : until the Irish Govt stepped in and forced EI to divest a couple of routes to FR to allow them to grow.......
37 Post contains links and images OA260 : Things gearing up for the FlightFest. The other great view would be on one of the VIP tickets onboard the A330 Dubliners get a bird's eye view of Flig
38 cipango : Delta Suspends DUB-ATL from January-March 2014. They will operate daily until 27th October 2013, then 5x weekly until 10th January 2014.
39 dstc47 : Bad news if confirmed and unexpected. IIRC the first suspension of the route in the off peak since it was introduced.
40 Post contains links OA260 : The DL suspention is indeed correct from 11th Jan to 22nd March. Source from the availabilitty and schedules at www.delta.com and Amadeus GDS.
41 dstc47 : Amazing to see ATL gone. Suggests that Irish traffic to Florida is not what it once was, or that DL is losing out to UA to Ireland.
42 Post contains links Nibog : BFS is to be sold to an American firm: http://www.belfastairport.com/en/news/1/266/airport-sale-agreed.html Hopefully this will bring new investment t
43 OA260 : My ''personal'' view would be that they are maybe loosing out to the likes of US Airways as people tend to go for the cheaper fares DUB-PHL-MCO. US A
44 shamrock321 : Seems Servisair will soon disappear from Ireland to be replaced by Swissport.
45 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : In other DL news, the SNN flights will be assigned new flight numbers for the 2014 season (DL223 for SNN-JFK and DL224 for JFK-SNN). The schedule rema
46 Post contains images OA260 : Will be interesting to see how it pans out. Maybe they can get that rail line extended Last year when I had a 4 hour delay at DUB and they were refus
47 dstc47 : quote=OA260,reply=43]US Airways had/have some cracking fares.[/quote] Yes. A lot of positive image still hangs to VS, whereas the actual product now a
48 Jamie2k9 : Delta will of lost a lot of connection traffic to IAD and CLT over the last few years and the Irish T/A bubble is about to burst. The route must of ma
49 EIBusiness : I would strongly agree with these estimates, in the absence of any specifics with regard to forward contractually secure Revenue agreements with rega
50 cipango : I think that's a bit strong. Albeit surprising, it is not necessarily that DL are doing something wrong just there has been such a huge increase in c
51 dstc47 : Not really, still not back to historic past levels of transatlantic capacity, pre recession. Mostly excellent TA loads, even in winter, out of Irelan
52 Post contains links Eagleboy : Interesting news on the FR website: ......In order to dispel the CC’s unfounded and invented “concern” that Ryanair’s shareholding may prevent
53 shamrock350 : "WE'RE SELLING OUR STAKE IN AER LINGUS....actually no we're not, we're just trying to make a point" Makes a good headline but like most things with Ry
54 n272wa : But it really is only an 8 week suspension....It is not like it has been axed entirely or moved to a seasonal service.
55 OA260 : Well I guess we will have to see what happens over the rest of the year. If they decided to do further reductions in capacity and days of service in
56 tonymctigue : Good to hear that DL will be back next year and with an earlier start. Lets hope for similar announcements from US and UA regards SNN-PHL and SNN-ORD
57 BrianDromey : I read it as FR are willing to sell the stake if 50.1 of SHAREHOLDERS agree. These shareholders don't, necessarily, have to be involved in the deal,
58 ClassicLover : Agreed - I posted some figures in the other thread on the Ryanair remedy. It's a €725 million investment to get 50.1% plus the Ryanair 29% sharehol
59 Post contains images kl911 : If only Wizzair had the money.. Or Easyjet, that would be so great
60 Nibog : What about Norwegian??
61 Post contains images kl911 : Geeee, totally forgot about them. well of course, let those 787's come to DUB.
62 Eagleboy : Those EI-xxx registered ones?
63 Post contains images OA260 : I think they should stick to the A330s and pending 350's
64 IRISH251 : Not an EU airline, though.
65 Nibog : Many thanks IRISH251,I was coming back here to edit my post having realised that they are not in the EU,but you got there before me!!!!! I also have
66 Post contains links OA260 : Possible blow to operations at ORK. Cork Airport could lose 24-hour status The Irish Aviation Authority is considering a cut in air-traffic control co
67 Jamie2k9 : Wouldn't call it a blow but a very sensible cost savings measures, it means that the terminal wouldn't need to be staff 24/7 which will reduce operat
68 Post contains links and images OA260 : A good idea from Aer Lingus. The Social jet : Aer Lingus #socialjet cleared for take off This summer, thousands of travellers will fly on the Aer Ling
69 Post contains links Eagleboy : I must have missed the 2nd retro livery...... http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...jet-cleared-for-take-off-1.1473818 "In 2011, when two new aircraf
70 shamrock350 : This does sum up the livery very well for me though; "In an industry dominated by red, white and blue livery, the flag-carrier’s green hues stand ou
71 clydenairways : According to skyliner, the 2nd new Aer Arann ATR72-600 EI-FAT was delivered to DUB today.
72 tonystan : I would be traumatised if EI made any radical alterations to its scheme! Hopefully when a change does come its marketing department will understand t
73 Post contains images OA260 : Indeed and the previous one sounded like some Govt training course
74 PenPusher : Will if suffer the same fate as one back in the 1980's, remember the 1st Aer Lingus Shorts 330 was delivered as EI-BEG but was changed in a short tim
75 kl911 : That's true, but I have witnessed quite often that both EI and FR had the last flight of the day delayed ( most likely somewhere during the day alrea
76 Post contains images OA260 : Well I guess FAT is the new SLM Very good point and as the article states it could hamper any expansion plans.
77 Jamie2k9 : That happens but its not overly common,, the IAA could have a 90 minute period after the closure to accept flights once they are notified before the
78 Post contains links and images OA260 : Eason loses out to WH Smith in deal to run bookshops at Dublin Airport Eason, the books and stationary retailer, has lost the contract to run shops in
79 nightfox365 : Anyone heard of BA flying their A380 into Shannon next Tuesday at 10am and leaving at 12?
80 dstc47 : DOH - or doh, as Homer would say. Pity, better range and faster service. Sales fall of 36% at T1 is amazing however, Ryanair bag limits?
81 dstc47 : G-UFCM crashed yesterday due to suspected engine failure near Newtonards. No serious injuries, but from the photo in the Independent of it stuck in a
82 clydenairways : It seems it's being quickly followed by EI-FAU delivered today.
83 Post contains images kl911 : Guess you're right. Anyway, it won't be my problem anymore, we are moving to Dublin tomorrow.
84 OA260 : Seems the pilot hit the trees in order to avoid children. That was according to the news report on BBC NI.
85 Eagleboy : I had beeen forewarned of its visit but hadn't had times mentioned....
86 lasno : ETA 0955, departure around 1230. Information on airport facebook page.
87 AmricanShamrok : The airport has confirmed that its scheduled arrival is at 09:55 on Tuesday, no word yet on a departure time but widely speculated that it's 12:00.
88 Post contains links OA260 : Hopefully we will see an end to all this in 2014 ! Aer Lingus loses court challenge to delay Ryanair takeover bid AER Lingus has lost its High Court c
89 VFRonTop : The fist step in the road towards privatisation, á la BAA
90 EIDL : EI-FAT and EI-FAU seem to be straight in to operation already going on flighradar. I presume they'll be returning the Danish birds now?
91 Post contains links OA260 : Seems the Irish/UK heatwave has as expected effected flight bookings to the sun. This ties in with other companies selling packages who have reported
92 dstc47 : Perhaps DL already have a positive weather forecast for Dublin in Jan / Feb with ATL gone? Interviewed on the radio this morning, Mr Cawley also sugg
93 Post contains links OA260 : Ryanair turns attention to Stansted as fresh DAA talks stall Ryanair has stalled talks with Dublin Airport on plans to deliver millions of extra passe
94 Eagleboy : I don't doubt that new FR would have resulted in more pax numbers by 'millions' does seem like a leap of the imagination. I assume FR are doing their
95 Post contains links and images OA260 : Yes great to see it . https://twitter.com/shannon_airport/status/362146310339567616/photo/1
96 Post contains images AmricanShamrok : It'd be great to see the A380 and A318 (the largest and smallest BA aircraft) on the ground at SNN together...but I can't due to work commitments
97 Post contains links and images OA260 : Or you can do better and get yourself to LHR and buy a ticket to FRA
98 RandWKOP : Would EI be capable of buying FRs shareholding? Also how many more years can EI prosper as a stand alone airline?
99 bx737 : A great photo, but I don't think those steps will reach the door
100 tonymctigue : Some good day's spotting ahead down at SNN so!
101 AmricanShamrok : Interesting...bit short notice though!!! Aer Lingus Regional will base an ATR 42 at SNN for the winter months. This will replace the current ATR 72 o
102 Post contains links OA260 : Etihad offering your local GAA club the chance to win a years sponsorship ! http://etihadgaa.ie
103 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : Nice picture of the BA A380 and A318 nose-to-nose at SNN today: http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013/0730/465480-ba-airbus-shannon/
104 Post contains links OA260 : The financial results are in : Aer Lingus revenues grow, posts higher operating loss AER LINGUS has reported growth in revenues and passenger numbers
105 Post contains links shamrock350 : Aer Lingus results were pretty much in line with what was expected, still looking for a full year profit slightly ahead of last year but as always sai
106 Post contains links dstc47 : A story about the costs of T2 at DUB in the Irish Times today. http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...-budget-regulator-claims-1.1481108
107 shamrock321 : The BA winter schedule was looking scaled back but they have since increased it back to 8 daily so as it was for the summer. A friend of mine who work
108 OA260 : Over the Winter it looks like it goes from 6-7-8 depending on the month. Upto 15th November it seems 6 a day then after the weekend commencing the 18
109 BrianDromey : Not surprised really, all BA (also ATI partners, presumibly) and a good portion of oneworld connecting traffic will now be using the BA service I wou
110 AmricanShamrok : KIR is seemingly in early discussions with RE about a BHX service, according to their official Facebook page...all commercial sensitivity goes out th
111 Post contains images ClassicLover : Personally, I think priority boarding only devalues the Gold Circle Club. You can now pay for lounge and pay for priority boarding - so if you were a
112 Post contains links and images OA260 : Indeed. You can buy GC lounge entry and if you can buy PB then it will certainly dilute the GC product. Or being dumped on EI which they have done. D
113 Post contains images Eagleboy : Unlike how the current GC programme devalues the GC Club?
114 Post contains images ClassicLover : Oh, I was told it wasn't anything near as good as the Aer Lingus breakfast. One person went so far as to say it was "crap!" - so I am not expecting t
115 Post contains images OA260 : Indeed. Tell them before hand not to over cook it The Premier ones that fell into my bag are still going strong
116 Post contains images ClassicLover : I think it's the Dublin caterers deliberately making the British option crappy by "forgetting" to remove it from the oven Oh, I have another set of h
117 Eagleboy : You got an adaptor for the triple pin?
118 Post contains images OA260 : Isnt one Swiss and one UAE? Yes damn turbulence !! Where there is a will there is a way When I was clearing out I found a few Y class green plastic o
119 Eirules : Quick question. Does AA to ORD or UA to IAD pre-clear in DUB? Thanks
120 MichaelEI : Both do. The only US flights that do not preclear are the EI 125 to ORD, and EI 137/139 to BOS.
121 kl911 : Why is that? As a pax wouldnt you go for one of the other carriers, meaning isnt EI at a disadvantage?
122 AmricanShamrok : FR's seasonal SNN-LPL service has been extended back to year-round effective this winter. It was temporarily discontinued for Winter 2012/13.
123 EIDL : Complete lack of capacity at and the opening hours of the CBP facility. US Government decisions on staffing rather than EI.
124 Jamie2k9 : EI hope to change the BOS situation if they can, they said on Wednesday they would like a set up like happened in JFK in April.
125 Post contains links irishtexan : Thirsty visitor to SNN recently. http://www.clareherald.com/2013/08/s...record-largest-ever-refuel-of.html Discount for cash payment?
126 OA260 : You could buy a house for that ! Love those SP's. Thats one lucky owner who flies that.
127 Post contains links ClassicLover : http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-s...-fly-with-me-if-you-dare-1.1482958 Article in the Irish Times where the author flys the BA A380 simulator.
128 Post contains links OA260 : CAR looking to revise the cap on charges in 2015 . Dublin Airport Authority T2 building costs ran 20% over budget, regulator claims Dublin Airport Aut
129 Eirules : What is the story again with "business class" on the AC flights from DUB-YYZ? I know the aircraft dont have the international J seats, but can you boo
130 Post contains images cipango : If it is the Sands Aircraft that they mentioned then my best guess is its flying on to Macau as sands own quite a few of the Hotel Casino's out there
131 dstc47 : The Herald claims that there were delays of up to two hours for immigration clearance at Dublin Airport over the weekend due to staffing problems.
132 OA260 : Doesnt surprise me based on my experiences the last few months. Its not just this weekend although I gather it was made worse. What with the bus stri
133 AmricanShamrok : Another emergency landing at SNN today - flight DL75, a 763 from MXP to ATL. The aircraft landed on RWY24 at 16:07 and stopped on the runway while eme
134 Post contains links OA260 : Shannon lands A380 emergency base British Airways has confirmed Shannon Airport as its preferred option as a diversionary airport if the Airbus A380
135 Post contains images tonymctigue : Unlikely to be a massive money spinner given how ralely BA birds divert to SNN but still nice to know that we will get the odd treat of an A380 visit
136 Post contains images OA260 : Indeed . Also dont forget it will be flying over Dublin in September for Flightfest so some good photo ops there too
137 eicvd : Has that been confirmed?
138 AmricanShamrok : Diversions are not part of SNN's business plan but good to see BA endorse the airport. While the runway is of adequate length for a fully-loaded A380
139 OA260 : Yes it has been at the A380 event at SNN.
140 Post contains images eicvd : Good to know Wasn't sure as I only heard a rumour about the A380 showing up from an interview filmed at the Bray Air show. Also mentioned in that int
141 clydenairways : 45M is the standard width these days for most new runways, 60M is a throw back to the old piston days.
142 Aer Lingus : 60m is the ICAO Code F requirement, 45m is the Code E requirement. Having said that, LHR's runways are only 50m but including the shoulders, far exce
143 EIBusiness : On Saturday morning last - I arrived in from BOS at 05.00 and experienced a ''Gathering'' of a whole new kind - one that's a sombre reminder of the d
144 aidansnn : Seemingly, the situation did not improve over the course of the weekend. A family member arriving on Sunday at about 2PM waited for over an hour at P
145 clydenairways : But in practice code F operate from 45m runways all the time. Hardly any runways are built to 60m these days.
146 OA260 : Yes there is no excuse for it. I have had the same experiences myself with the Garda imigration hall in Dublin. Packed right up to the gate area. It
147 tonymctigue : It certainly will be fun trying to unload an entire A380 at SNN if the situation arises particularly if it so happens to coincide with the busy morni
148 AmricanShamrok : It seems to be working though. Visitor numbers and overall transatlantic traffic are up. Of course we won't have any real figures until early next ye
149 Post contains links OA260 : Yeah I will wait to see the figures broken down which is the most important even vital info. ----- Speaking of figures !! Passenger numbers up for Ae
150 Post contains images aerdingus : Even with their 3 recent recruitment drives? Is this to make present crew take redundancy packages & hire newer, cheaper crew?
151 OA260 : Yep seems so . Make the expensive contracts take a redundancy deal and then re employ new younger cheaper labour without the perks etc...
152 Post contains images aerdingus : Happening everywhere I suppose
153 captainmeeerkat : Anyone know why there is an LH A340 in DUB?
154 Post contains links n272wa : July figures for DUB are up! Great to see and a sure sign that the massive Tourism Ireland campaign of "The Gathering" is certainly paying off: http:/
155 Post contains links aidansnn : Positive July traffic figures for Shannon too! http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/abo...er_numbers_increase_by_over_9.aspx Summer 2013 improved again fo
156 Post contains links and images OA260 : Yep seems so in every industry. ----- Breaking news on Sky is that a plane bound from Ireland to the USA has made an emergency landing in PHL due to
157 Post contains links aidansnn : The flight, a US Airways 757, originated in Shannon, apparently. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=9198583
158 Post contains links irishtexan : Fox news reporting an incident currently developing at PHL. Video from PHL of a US 757, reported to be a flight from Ireland, parked remotely surround
159 Post contains links and images OA260 : Seems to be mixed reports at the moment as if it was the SNN or DUB flight. *** I presume DUB is a B767 today so must have been SNN *** ??[Edited 201
160 Post contains links and images OA260 : N204NW Was the reg and seems it was from SNN. Sniffer dogs going through the bags at present.
161 EIDL : N204UW? NW is a Bell 204.
162 Post contains images OA260 : Yes N204UW typo
163 EIDL : Only noticed as thought a non-Delta plane ending in NW would be rare enough!
164 Post contains links irishtexan : Some media follow up to the bomb hoax on US777 http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/230...d-to-make-emergency-landing-at-phl
165 Post contains links shamrock350 : Aer Lingus had one of their A330s go tech in Shannon yesterday, EI135 to BOS was cancelled and left around 100 still stranded today with many of them
166 Post contains images OA260 : Some went Via DUB and LHR ? "The Scattering"
167 AmricanShamrok : EI-DAA
168 Post contains images tonymctigue : The upside of both of these stories... 171 on board US 777 and 250 from EI 135 had to spend an overnight in the Shannon => two different scheduled
169 Post contains images OA260 : Indeed there is always a bright side to everything in life.
170 Post contains links dstc47 : Looking through the programme for National Heritage Week, available on the web and in printed form, I noticed that there is to be a small scale event
171 Post contains links Aer Lingus : http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...g-haul-division-in-ireland-389250/ Norweigian considering basing long haul operation here. Presumably just the
172 Post contains links irishtexan : Seems not everyone at PHL was fully aware of the US777 incident as it played out. http://www.clareherald.com/2013/08/a...reveals-confusion-around-bomb
173 Post contains links Jamie2k9 : According to Flybe GDS they are closing NOC-EDI from 26 October. . http://www.flybe.com/[Edited 2013-08-09 16:40:33]
174 Post contains links and images 321neo : Here's possibly the most entertaining commentary I've ever seen; charting a morning of aircraft activity at DUB. Hilarious! https://www.youtube.com/wa
175 Post contains links OA260 : Airport objects to wind turbine applications Planning applications for ten wind turbines in the Lisburn area have been put on hold following objection
176 tonymctigue : Haha. Reminds me of the infamous 'F'n Eddie' commentary of the Tipperary Junior B County Football Championship. He certainly knows his airplanes![Edi
177 Post contains links IRISH251 : On 24 August Catalina G-PBYA will fly by at Loughshinny and then display at Dun Laoghaire at 1252 hours, then landing to refuel at Weston before proc
178 ClassicLover : I had my first flight with CityJet yesterday... I checked-in online at 3am the day before (30 hours) as I happened to be awake. As I was on a cheap fa
179 kl911 : Is Titan still flying a 733 for EI? I saw one last night on approach into DUB.
180 OA260 : Sounds like a nightmare. Just goes to show there is demand for a J product between DUB-LHR and BA seem to be making it work. Feedback from others als
181 eicvd : Yes, I saw one this morning.
182 Post contains links OA260 : Incident: Arann AT72 at Birmingham on Aug 1st 2013, tail scrape on go around after bounced landing An Aer Arann Avion de Transport Regional ATR-72-500
183 dstc47 : Would not be summer without more threats of industrial action. This time from Aer Arann pilots. A ballot on industrial action may be completed this af
184 Post contains links and images OA260 : Strike is on !! Aer Arann pilots back strike action Air passengers face the threat of travel disruption next week, with pilots at Aer Arann expected t
185 Post contains images kl911 : First Dublin Bus, now this..... very bad for tourism I can't understand why unions are not banned. It is something from the past and doesn't belong i
186 OA260 : Agreed. A lot of people have worked hard to increase tourism and then you have this ! Everyone has had to cut back. There are people living on EUR188
187 BrianDromey : In fairness I think unions do have a place even in the modern age. In real terms most employees have maintained parity (most haven't) with increases i
188 ThrottleHold : Ah yes, it's the pilots fault again. Maybe they wouldn't have to resort to this action if management paid them what they are due and didn't back trac
189 OA260 : They will have little sympathy from the majority in the country and thats the honest truth ! Well they are the ones that are crying poverty and going
190 Post contains links clydenairways : Can't see an extra 500ft making much of a difference to the aircraft types serving WAT, though maybe this will allow the Q400 and ATR72 a better paylo
191 EIDL : Should allow regional jets in - its not intended to be 738 capable, that was the stage 2 of the project. Which is another €26m as it involves realig
192 Post contains links and images 321neo : Hey guys, just letting yous know about a trip report I've just made. It covers AA's new DUB-JFK route which was launched in mid-June Ireland To The Bi
193 ClassicLover : Yes, I am looking forward to see how it compares on Thursday morning and Saturday evening this week!
194 Eagleboy : Mgmt can't have it all their own way, there must be some counterbalance...however we have all seen instances where the unions have never been counter
195 Post contains links OA260 : Aer Lingus has so far remained silent on the dispute that is threatening to disrupt Aer Arann services over four days next week, but it could be just
196 Post contains links Eagleboy : Imagine a seasonal driven business not being prepared for the high of Summer? http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...son-1.1493276#.Ugsyc25929k.twitte
197 BrianDromey : Leasing -FCC deomonstrates that EI management identified a short-term need for extra lift. I think the IT is taking slightly the wrong view on this.
198 Post contains images OA260 : Have to agree here. Aer Lingus needed a quick fix for a limited period of time and this was the best option. Airlines do it all the time. --- BA are
199 Eagleboy : Leasing in EI-FCC was a good move......however leasing in a short term aircraft without the crew to operate it was a mistake. I am told that EI are c
200 BrianDromey : Probably. Could EI run up crew hours to the annual limit a few weeks/months early and then use these crew to cover the shortfall? I suspect that EI h
201 BestWestern : Star Alliance COO stated that the move to UK's London Heathrow Airport terminal two will occur for Aer Lingus in July 2014 alongside Eva, Thai, Turkis
202 Post contains links and images OA260 : Aircraft makes emergency landing at Dublin Airport United Airlines plane carrying 147 is grounded after reports of smoke from cockpit http://www.indep
203 BrianDromey : DUB-NCL has become bookable on aerlingus.com 13 weekly. EI3350 DUB 0650 NCL 0805 EI3351 NCL 0830 DUB 0940 EI3356 DUB 1545 NCL 1700 EI 3357 NCL 1910 DU
204 shamrock350 : It wasn't that long ago when Aer Arann was on the brink, it's very doubtful they'd still be here if it wasn't for the Aer Lingus Regional deal so goin
205 OA260 : Yes its great to see. NCL was missing in terms of decent service for a while now. Fares are not bad too from around EUR87 .
206 EIDL : Fingers crossed for LBA, if NCL is being added. LPL is another obvious possible market I'd have thought. Decent sized cities, some transfer potential
207 Eirules : Am I the only one who noticed the thread about the UA diversion to DUB was deleted? What was controversial about that???
208 OA260 : I think its because the OP did not post a link to the source which is in violation of forum rules. It is due to copyright. Whenever you post somethin
209 Rufusisgod : The NCL arrives in at 1845 and departs at 1910. I think you may have mixed days up.
210 dergay : Both are served by FR at the moment - why bother!
211 Post contains links OA260 : Competition , lower fares. Maybe EIR can compete where EI with A320s could not. --- A Ryanair pilot who spoke out about safety concerns on a televisi
212 EIDL : So is NCL!
213 Post contains links kaitak : Thread 10/13 is up and running: Irish 10/13: Up There Where The Air Is Clear ... (by kaitak Aug 14 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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