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787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 17  
User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 50369 times:
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Due to length of part 16, here is part 17.

Previous thread: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16 (by iowaman Jun 22 2013 in Civil Aviation)

312 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5668 posts, RR: 48
Reply 1, posted (9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 50249 times:

Well despite the fire on Thursday, Boeing is still going full tilt on production...2 B-1 flights and a EWA flight kept them pretty busy. ZA466 was supposed to make it's 3rd flight but got timed out...it'll probably fly tomorrow. It'll be interesting to see how deliveries go.

Also got some information on ZA274. IT was supposed to have its B-1 late last week but Boeing is still trying to complete all the write ups it has on that air frame. LOT wants the aircraft on July 24th but it's looking like it'll be the 26th or later.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 49855 times:

From United787 on the previous thread...I don't think there's anything to add, is there?

Quote:
As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 68 Aircraft to 13 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO JULY
NH-20; JL-9; AI-7; UA–6; QR-6; ET-4; LO-4; LA-3; BY-3; BA-2; CZ-1; DY-1

JULY DELIVERIES
L/N 95 - B-2733 – 7/2/2013 – CZ #2
L/N 76 - B-2722 – 7/4/2013 - HU #1

AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY
L/N 90 - VT-ANN – 7/xx/2013 - AI #8 (Paris Air Show)
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – 7/xx/2013 - AI #9
L/N 81 - B-2723 – x/xx/2013 - HU #2
L/N 85 - B–2730 - x/xx/2013 - HU #3
L/N 105 – JA832J – 7/xx/2013 - JL #10
L/N 103 - A7-BCE – 7/xx/2013 - QR #7
L/N 116 - A7-BCG – 7/xx/2013 - QR #8
L/N 43 - B-2727 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #3 (Storage)
L/N 73 - B-2728 – x/xx/2013 - HU #4 (Storage)
L/N 39 - ET-AOO – 7/xx/2013 - ET #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 88 - SP-LRE – 7/xx/2013 – LO #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 106 - G-TUID – x/xx/2013 – BY #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 107 - JA821A - 7/xx/2013 - NH #21 Awaiting first flight
L/N 112 – EI-LNB - 7/xx/2013 - DY #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 110 - JA822A - x/xx/2013 - NH #22 Awaiting first flight
L/N 79 - B-27?? – x/xx/2013 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 93 - B-2732 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 100 - B-2734 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - x/xx/2013 - BA #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 104 - B-2735 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #6 Awaiting first flight
L/N 115 – N961AM - 8/xx/2013 - AM #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 109 - A7-BCF – x/xx/2013 - QR #9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 117 – N29907 – x/xx/2013 – UA #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 118 - CC-BBE - 8/xx/2013 - LA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 121 – G-ZBJD - x/xx/2013 - BA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 120 - JA823A - 8/xx/2013 - NH #23 Awaiting first flight
L/N 113 - CC-BBD - 8/xx/2013 - LA #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 30 - VT-ANE – x/xx/2013 - AI #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 36 - B-2726 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 122 – N964AM - x/xx/2013 - AM #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 123 – VH-VKA – 9/xx/2013 – JQ #1 Awaiting first flight
L/N 21 – JA823J – x/xx/2013 - JL #11 Awaiting first flight



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8731 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 49687 times:

LN36 B-2726 (CZ) emerged from the paint hangar and was moved to the EMC (battery fix?):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/9290834300/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8731 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (9 months 1 week ago) and read 49529 times:

LN39 delivery scheduled for next week.

http://twitter.com/FlightDKM/status/356557371788636160



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5668 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 49192 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
LN39 delivery scheduled for next week.

http://twitter.com/FlightDKM/status/...36160

Seeing that they're one plane short as of last Friday they're going to need it!



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5668 posts, RR: 48
Reply 6, posted (9 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 49022 times:

ZA466 on another test flight today. Think it's a B-3.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE466



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1309 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 48873 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 6):
ZA466 on another test flight today. Think it's a B-3.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE466

It's a C-1 (unless it was a complete basket case on the previous two flights which I doubt was the case).


User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1309 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 48822 times:

LOT ZA274 (88) out for a B-1 later if the preflight checks go ok:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE274


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5668 posts, RR: 48
Reply 9, posted (9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 48778 times:

Hopefully the ELTs are ok on these flights today.


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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1309 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 47489 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 9):
Hopefully the ELTs are ok on these flights today.


Worse case is they remove/deactivate them for flight.



UAL WA291 off on another B flight to clean things up prior to C-1.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE291


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8731 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 47288 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 5):
Seeing that they're one plane short as of last Friday they're going to need it!

Yeah, and I hope they will be able to repair LN44 very quickly.



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1309 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 46507 times:

With LOT ZA274 getting airborne on its B-1 today there are 7 airplanes at PAE that could deliver this month so far plus the 2 delivered already in CHS -- looks like somewhere between 9 and 12 -- that's a good pace. So much for all the worry.

User currently onlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 503 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 46391 times:

Just came back from spending the day at Everett. Simply spectacular. Was lucky enough to see a landing (A7-BCE) and a take off (N29907). Also didn't realize how close you can get to the aircrafts. Its like Paine Field was built for plane spotting. At both ends of the runway there's a hill that allows for uninterrupted views of takeoffs/landings. At Kilo South, you get as close as 100 feet from the planes. At the EMC fence, you can get as close as 10 feet from VT-ANC in the first position. Within 50 feet at the 11-29 runway, tower ramp and the fuel dock. Only the flightline is a bit out of reach without a good lens or binoculars. I had only an iphone so pics not great. a little teaser below of A7-BCE taxiing.

I also took the 2 hr tour which takes you into the assembly lines. in the 40-24, the first 789 looks as good as ready for roll out. not much equipment left around it and engines attached. in the 40-26, things are not rolling off as quickly as some have been predicting. only 2 "new" frames in positions 1 & 2 and two "old" frames getting the battery fix in positions 3 & 4. i guess this is good as the backlog can come off the flightline. I wouldn't anticipate seeing a "new" frame roll offs the 40-26 in the next two weeks.

Anyone on this forum anywhere in the northwest should make it a duty to spend some time at Everett. For $18 you get to spend two hours on the assembly line. A once in a lifetime opportunity.

Uresh - i'll send you a PM with all the aircraft positions so you can update your spreadsheet.

Cheers
A
A7-BCE returning from C1 flight


User currently onlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 503 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 46344 times:

After what i've seen today, i'd venture as follows...

Next up...

Deliveries:
> JA-832J (Japan Airlines #10)
> A7-BCE (Qatar Airways #7)
> N29907 (United Airlines #7)

First Flights:
> JA-822A (All Nippon Aiways #21)
> N961AM (Aeromexico #1/ILFC #2)
> B-27?? (China Southern #4) (@ Charleston)
> EI-LNB (Norwegian #2/ILFC #3)
> JA-823J (Japan Airlines #11)

FAL Rollout:
> N789EX (Boeing 787-9 Test Plane #1)
> N27908 (United Airlines #8) (@ Charleston)
> N965AM (Aeromexico #3/ILFC #5)

Cheers
A


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46212 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 12):
So much for all the worry.

Good thing we at A-Net reminded Boeing that they need to get some planes up in the air if they want to deliver any  


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5668 posts, RR: 48
Reply 16, posted (9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46153 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 13):

Thanks buddy, I fot it and updated the spreadsheets.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8731 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 45896 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 13):
At the EMC fence, you can get as close as 10 feet from VT-ANC in the first position.

VT-ANC was outside? With engines attached?

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 13):
I also took the 2 hr tour which takes you into the assembly lines. in the 40-24, the first 789 looks as good as ready for roll out. not much equipment left around it and engines attached.

Do you remember the position of ZB001, 3 or 4? Both are slant positions.

[Edited 2013-07-16 00:29:48]


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5668 posts, RR: 48
Reply 18, posted (9 months 6 days ago) and read 45637 times:

ZB001 is still in position 3 in 40-24, ZB002 is in position 1.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8731 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 45443 times:

Thanks.

LN91 / ZA243 is in paint and on its way back to CHS:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130716/1400Z/KFTW/KCHS



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User currently onlinehkcanadaexpat From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2012, 503 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 45439 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 17):
VT-ANC was outside? With engines attached?

Yes it was. I was surprised to see it there as well but being 10 feet away difficult to confuse with any other frame. still with the star alliance logo on the side and all. a lot of work remains though.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 17):
Do you remember the position of ZB001, 3 or 4? Both are slant positions.

definitely P3

A


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5668 posts, RR: 48
Reply 21, posted (9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 45366 times:

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 20):
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 17):
Do you remember the position of ZB001, 3 or 4? Both are slant positions.

definitely P3

A

Yeah ZB001 has been in position 3 for several weeks already. It's probably going through a lot of systems testing right now as well as installation of any remaining flight test equipement. Boeig's going to take their time on this one. but I still think it should be out by the end of the month. It has to go through position 4 in 40-26 (for aqueous wash of fuel tanks) then paint and finally to the flightline.



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1309 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 44859 times:

JAL ZA186 out for a C-2? this evening:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE186


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8731 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 44573 times:

Thomson G-TUID at the fuel dock:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/9303048621/

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 20):
Yes it was. I was surprised to see it there as well but being 10 feet away difficult to confuse with any other frame. still with the star alliance logo on the side and all. a lot of work remains though.

Hmm ok, maybe it was in the same state as LN21 last April, it went then back inside for the next 2 months. Good to see some progress though.

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 20):
definitely P3

Thanks for all the updates  



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5668 posts, RR: 48
Reply 24, posted (9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 44068 times:

Air India is supposed to take 3 more '87s by the end of August. This is in order to help support the start of India-Australia service due to commence August 29th.

ZA242 and ZA243 look to be ready for delivery except they need to have customer flights. ZA235 would be the next one to be delivered as it is done with change incorporation and really has been ahnging out at theEMC with nothing to do until space on the flightline opens up.

http://m.rediff.com/business/report/...ustralia-from-august/20130717.htm#

[Edited 2013-07-17 13:00:14]


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25 KarelXWB : Yeah ZA235 spent some time on runway 11-29 with engines attached, we should see it at the fuel dock very soon. ZA242 is currently at the fuel dock, wh
26 NYC777 : ZA242 has been at the fuel dock for an eternity. I think they're waitig for room to free up on the flightline.
27 Post contains links KarelXWB : LN113 (LAN) is on the CHS flightline. http://twitter.com/Kearney_Brendan/status/357612863755522050
28 hkcanadaexpat : N964AM (compass rose) and G-ZBJD (flightline 201) came out of the 40-26 yesterday (July 16). I anticipate a line move was also done that day with N965
29 tortugamon : Jon O is tweeting that the 787-9 / ZB001 is rolling out tonight at 11pm!! Earlier than I expected. Paint hangar tomorrow. tortugamon
30 tortugamon : Probably no chance to see ZB001 before it enters the paint hangar? I would think this would be enough of an event to have a spotter checking out the b
31 Post contains images Sooner787 : Well, I'll be in SEA 2 weeks from now, looks like a trip to KPAE is in order to see the 789 on the flight line
32 Post contains images tortugamon : Hopefully we will have something sooner but we will certainly take anything we can get. tortugamon
33 Post contains links KarelXWB : Any idea which 787 this is? Jetstar? http://paineairport.com/kpae6501.htm
34 Post contains images Dan23 : Looks very much like it. NYC777's blog quoted LN123 as being in the Paint Hangar this week. It would be a disappointment if it was not
35 Post contains links KarelXWB : He also uploaded a bunch of photos of ZB001 just before it started final assembly: http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=7702824@N03&q=zb001 Well that
36 NYC777 : Yeah this has to be LN 123 for Jetstar, it was probably being stored in the paint hangar for the te being. Boeing is probably holding off painting it
37 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Surprise! More pictures can be found here: http://www.seattlepi.com/business/bo...ow/Boeing-787-9-roll-out-66549.php[Edited 2013-07-18 05:02:31]
38 travelhound : If I am correct the 787-9 is being built on the temporary surge line. Interesting pictures. From what I can work out the production line includes at
39 Post contains images Sooner787 : Man, she looks great even without her makeup
40 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Awesome! Thanks for finding those
41 Post contains images frigatebird : And a good one! Thanks! Much, much better (proportioned) than the -8. Can't wait to see it in KL colours
42 Post contains links and images KPDX : Wow. To add onto it. Going to be gorgeous when painted and in flight.
43 NYC777 : Boeing is saying that they are producing at 7/month but my information is showing it's slower than that. I think they're sloly ramping back up to 7/m
44 flightsimer : That is not possible as the ELT is a basic requirement for basic VFR flight.
45 Post contains links KarelXWB : ZA467 scheduled for a B1 flight today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130718/1430Z/KCHS/KVQQ
46 Post contains links NYC777 : Another B-1 flight on tap for this morning, this time out of Charleston and the 1st CHS built 787 for Qatar Airways, ZA467: http://flightaware.com/liv
47 Post contains images seabosdca : Screw economics; I wish they had left the longer wings on the 787-9 for purely aesthetic reasons. Looks great as is, though.
48 PHX787 : Man that -9 looks sleek. Looks incredibly longer than the 8 just by looking at it.
49 7BOEING7 : Wrong! If you look at the MEL's available online for 777 & 787 (thru the FAA I believe) the ELT (fixed) is listed with "0" required if it is "dea
50 nomadd22 : How does being VFR have anything to do with the ELT?
51 NYC777 : Well the AAIB has spoken and is recommending "inerting" the ELTs on all 787s. I guess it's their fancy way of saying turn it off.
52 NYC777 : Well now Flightaware doesn't have this flight up anymore for today. I wonder if it had anything to do with the ELT issue and the AAIB report today?
53 Post contains links KarelXWB : A video of the roll-out can be found here: http://www.airlinereporter.com/2013/...9-dreamliner-rolls-out-of-factory/
54 Post contains links tortugamon : It looks like the 787-9 rolled right out of 40-24 and into the paint hangar. It did not have to wait a week like others do...I thought it was going to
55 KarelXWB : A prototype is always a bit different. Also, we don't know what Boeing is exactly doing with the -8s on the 40-51 ramp. Maybe cabin related stuff whi
56 Post contains links KarelXWB : ZA467 is in the air now, CHS-VQQ: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130718/1430Z/KCHS/KVQQ
57 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA466 is to fly today. It looks like a C-2 flight I guess but correct me if I'm wrong. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE466[Edited 2013-07-18 13:
58 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Looks like LOT ZA274 out for a B-2 later today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130718/2230Z/KPAE/KMWH
59 kanban : Hey guys could we put the customer id with the airplane identifier (whether N-,m cust s/n, line number or whatever) I'm wearing out my cheat sheet eve
60 tortugamon : Idea seconded. tortugamon
61 hkcanadaexpat : With 12 days left to the month, July delivery figures should start becoming clearer (no time left really for any new B1s that would make it to custome
62 flightsimer : The ELT is required for basic visual flight rules. IFR flight, which all airlines are flying under, require all VFR flight rules to be complied with
63 7BOEING7 : That's strange because the MASTER MEL for both 777 and 787 that can be found online (FAA?) says for ELT (fixed) you can dispatch with "0" required ei
64 Stitch : Discussions about the ELT really should be in the 787 threads so we can keep this thread focused on 787 production and deliveries.
65 aklrno : It looks to me like the last section of 91.207 exempts scheduled air carriers on scheduled flights. That makes some sense to me. The purpose of an EL
66 NYC777 : Quoting tortugamon (Reply 54): It looks like the 787-9 rolled right out of 40-24 and into the paint hangar. It did not have to wait a week like others
67 Post contains links KarelXWB : Wings for ZB021, the third 787-9, have arrived at the FAL. http://paineairport.com/kpae6504.htm
68 Post contains links KarelXWB : The Jetstar 787 was moved to the 40-51 apron. http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/9319359132/
69 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA186 up again on yet another customer flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE186
70 starrion : Hmm. 7 test flights. I wonder why JAL is doing so much test flying on their new delivery 787's. It's almost like they expect them to have problems.
71 kanban : Seems to me the first and maybe the second set were transported flat by special carrier.. it's nice to see these emerge from the LCF.
72 KarelXWB : Yes the first set of wings for ZB001 were transported by an Antonov freighter. Not sure about the second set.
73 7BOEING7 : Actually only 6 (3 B, 3 C) -- one was a photo flight. Both JAL and ANA prefer only 1 customer flight if at all possible, so seeing 3 so far indicates
74 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
75 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA466 on a test flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE466
76 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : QTR ZA466 maybe today for the C-3: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE466
77 Post contains links KarelXWB : G-TUID engines were started for the first time on July 19. http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2013/07/paine-field-july-19.html
78 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : ILF/AMX ZA561 (115) filed for a B-1 later today. Weather should clear, will the airplane cooperate? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE561
79 Post contains links KarelXWB : There is still little activity around LN43 (CZ), the windows are still taped off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/9333403825/in/photostream/
80 Post contains links clickhappy : It was late, but that just meant better light: http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/9337419085/
81 Post contains links and images tortugamon : The photo is off Air China's 77W I believe. Still nice though . Looks like JA823J (JAL) had an initial engine run today. Good to see movement on LN 2
82 Post contains images KarelXWB : You can see LN43 in the background
83 tortugamon : And although there are three CZ 787s in Everett the third one isn't painted. Touché. Nice get. tortugamon
84 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Any ideas why ET-AOP and SP-LRD are headed to Boeing Field today... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE260 http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE27
85 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Or why QTR ZA466 appears to be doing another full profile? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE466 ETH would be a B-2, LOT a B-3. Are they running
86 clickhappy : I would guess they are staging to BFI since there has been a lot of fog at PAE the past couple of weeks and it looks set to continue.
87 817Dreamliiner : That should be ET-EOO, AOP is the one which had the fire at LHR. Its now returning to PAE.[Edited 2013-07-22 10:13:03]
88 United787 : Do the 787s seem to be doing a lot more test flights lately? I thought I remember at the end of 2012, the amount of test flights on average seemed to
89 7BOEING7 : Fog really only affects the B-1's and this stuff burns off fairly rapidly -- probably an ATC finger fumble.
90 Post contains links KarelXWB : ZA466, ZA274 and ZA260 landed with the RAT deployed. http://twitter.com/mattcawby
91 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Yeah sorry, I should have been more clear. Anyway, Russell Hill was so kind to share us a nice close-up picture of LN43: As one can see, the bird is
92 clickhappy : Actually that isn't true. No Boeing test flights will fly if the conditions are below minimums. If conditions change after takeoff, the flights will
93 A388 : Nice picture and thanks for sharing it with us KarelXWB. The 787-9 looks even nicer in my opinion. I can't wait to see the KLM 787-9!!! Cheers, A388
94 ual747-600 : Just curious as to why so much flight activity takes place towards the end of the month vs. a more consistent flow during the entire month. Can someon
95 7BOEING7 : If it's below take off minimums that would be an issue but that is rarely the case. If it's just below landing minimums you can still takeoff as long
96 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : On another note, looks like QTR ZA468 is out on a C-1: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...8/history/20130722/2100Z/KPAE/KMWH
97 Post contains links KarelXWB : LN20 has been spotted inside the EMC with engines attached. http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/9346548503/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/93465480
98 NYC777 : I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there will be a few delivereis over the next few days starting with ZA186 to JAL. This one may deliver toda
99 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA260 going out on a B-4 or a C-1 flight, can't keep track anymore: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE260
100 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Looks like ETH ZA260 (39) is schedules for a quick C-2 today after flying a C-1 after the B-2 yesterday: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE260 It
101 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA291 for UA is going on a what I guess is a C-1 today. They can delvier this one before the 31st assuming that are no issues. http://flightaware.com/
102 Post contains links KarelXWB : ZA121 scheduled for a B1 flight today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20130723/2217Z/KPAE/KMWH
103 tortugamon : ZA 121 is ANA JA-822A for those without immediate access to the info. Good to see. Think we should see ZA577 for DY/ILFC on a B-1 soon. tortugamon
104 hkcanadaexpat : So much activity in last 2 days, here's are recap of what's next: Deliveries: > JA-832J (Japan Airlines #10) > A7-BCE (Qatar Airways #7) > N2
105 Post contains links NYC777 : Matt Cawby tweeted that an ELT was transmitting and had the Everett Airport FD looking for the source. It was ZA466's ELT that was transmitting. Don't
106 NYC777 : I would add LOT's 5th 787 (SP-LRE, ZA274, LN 88). It should deliver very late this week or early next week. LOT actually wanted delivered on the 24th
107 virginblue4 : I must admit I haven't been keeping up to date with this thread, but why is this 787 in the old JAL livery?
108 Stitch : It's one of the early production frames so it likely would have been painted before JL changed their livery in mid-2011.[Edited 2013-07-23 17:28:49]
109 NYC777 : It'll be r epainted priot to delivery.
110 tortugamon : Its definitely troubling. If Boeing cannot deliver more than 7-9/month now when they are producing 7/month (July excluded) then what are they going t
111 tortugamon : B-2042 CZ 77W is completing taxi tests in Everett according to Matt Cawby. It will be a cool photo opportunity to deliver both their 77W and a 787 at
112 milestones787 : B-2042 is a 777F for China Southern Cargo, not a 77W.
113 tortugamon : You ain't kidding. Good catch. 77Ws are due to be delivered soon though I think so it should be a good photo op. tortugamon
114 KarelXWB : I think the customers are simply not ready to take delivery of their aircraft. Let's see how many eventually will be delivered before the end of the
115 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : HU LN79 was moved to runway 11-29, someone has caught it on the webcam while it was being towed.
116 Stitch : Agreed. Most are in the middle of their summer flying season and integrating new planes into a crowded schedule is probably a burden.
117 Post contains links KarelXWB : There is a small slippage in the first 787-9 delivery schedule, it shifts from "early 2014" to "mid 2014". http://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/36005
118 FriendlySkies : That, and the bulk of the ready to deliver frames are for customers that have had continuing issues accepting deliveries (China, Air India specifical
119 tortugamon : Still no engines nor paint. 2014 written all over it. It does appear that way. 15 a/c in flight testing (5 that have completed at least a C-1) is a h
120 KarelXWB : I assume "early 2014" means Q1 2014 but that was never a realistic date IMO. Just do the math: 6 months test flying, 1 month certification, 1 or 2 mo
121 Post contains links KarelXWB : LOT ZA274 is scheduled for a 2-hour (customer?) flight. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130724/1830Z/KPAE/KMWH AeroMexico first 787
122 Post contains images 7BOEING7 : C-1, probably the last to get delivered in July.
123 Post contains links KarelXWB : Qatar ZA467 scheduled for a paint job at FTW. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130724/1930Z/KCHS/KFTW
124 tortugamon : I think that would make eight if all goes smoothly: 2 QR 1 CZ 1 HU 1 ET 1 LO 1 JL 1 UA Boeing indicated that they are planning on delivering between
125 Post contains links KarelXWB : JL JA832J (ZA186) was moved to the delivery center. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/360135761737154561
126 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : And Russell was so kind to provide us with 2 more bonus pictures. The first one is LN36 which finished change incorporation a while ago and emerged f
127 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : JAL ZA186 delivered -- headed home tonite: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JAL8101
128 Post contains images frigatebird : I never thought that was going to happen, wonder if one of the early 787-8 planners fabricated this Glad Boeing put this straight. Have the interiors
129 KarelXWB : Except for the engines, those birds were completely installed. The original plan was to deliver them directly after certification, but than many prob
130 Post contains links KarelXWB : In other news, Matt Cawby took a picture of LN11, still wearing the ANA livery. This one is currently inside the EMC and should be delivered to Transa
131 Post contains links tortugamon : JAL sure does know how to have a good time when they take delivery: http://paineairport.com/kpae6532.htm They do some wing waves every time it seems.
132 PHX787 : Hahaha typical I think. Watch departures from HND hahaha they love to bank really hard after takeoff haha
133 Post contains links KarelXWB : Position 4 in the 40-26 building has been freed, LN127 can now move further down the assembly line. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/36040132794947
134 NYC777 : Line move later today and loading of the next 787 airframe tomorrow.
135 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Was there another 787 delivery after the JAL one? Boeing just tweeted the they've delivered 70: http://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/status/360445956522
136 Post contains links tortugamon : Great news. Wonder if it was a QR bird. ANA ZA121 is scheduled for a B-1 http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20130725/1830Z/KPAE/KMWH to
137 KarelXWB : ET LN39 was scheduled for a delivery this week.
138 NYC777 : LOT ZA274 is also supposed to deliver this week. I put in an email into Boeing, let's see what they come back with.[Edited 2013-07-25 11:11:41]
139 tortugamon : With a 7/14 first flight I would say that it was a pretty impressive turnaround especially for a LN39 aircraft. tortugamon
140 Post contains links tortugamon : Looks like one of the QR birds is heading to VCV. That answers that I guess. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/Q...7/history/20130726/0001Z/KPAE/KVC
141 NYC777 : Going on a limb here and guessing that it's ZA466 that was delivered today.
142 tortugamon : That is a good bet. The QR birds go to VCV for wifi right? Is that always done post-delivery? I thought they used to have it done before it was deliv
143 7BOEING7 : They've been airborne for an hour so must not have been a big issue.
144 tortugamon : You are right, it is looking good. The maintenance issue delayed the flight originally but it looks like they figured out whatever problem it is. tor
145 tortugamon : From Matt: "Qatar Airways 787 delivery flight canceled tonight" https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/360547465369370624 tortugamon
146 NYC777 : Can any one confirm that it was ZA466 that was delivered today?
147 Post contains links KarelXWB : The Qatar delivery was A7-BCE (LN103). http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/360744048673296384
148 milestones787 : Any idea when we might see the first 787-9 come out of the paint hangar? I think it has been in for 8 or 9 days now...
149 KarelXWB : It could take a week and a half if they do the fuel tank wash inside the paint hangar.
150 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : A7-BCE delivery is delayed due to an incident, not known if any damage occurred: http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/360793031747706882
151 seabosdca : I don't think I'd want to be on the receiving end of the next phone call to Boeing from al-Baker...
152 NYC777 : Much ado about nothing. Aircraft is in the air.
153 817Dreamliiner : Good to know, thanks.
154 NYC777 : Boeing has rolled out the 1st fully painted 787-9. Any spotters at Everett should be able to get good pics unless they rolled it back into one ofthe a
155 817Dreamliiner : Matt Cawby tweeted that its not on the flightline, so it must have been rolled back into the assembly bay.
156 KarelXWB : I wouldn't be surprised if it's at position 4 in 40-24 now.
157 NYC777 : ZA561 looks to be making a B-2 flight.
158 Post contains links and images clickhappy : Not a B-2, but a photo flight. Takeoff video with a Learjet 25 in hot pursuit. http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/9381926652/ Sorry, I'm no T
159 7BOEING7 : Looks like Wolfe Air is handling the photos as opposed to Clay Lacy on this photo flight.
160 Someone83 : And which LN and airline is this for?
161 KarelXWB : It's LN115 for Aeromexico.
162 KarelXWB : BTW for people wondering why the Chinese 787 deliveries from CHS make a stop at BFI: [Edited 2013-07-28 01:26:48]
163 Post contains links NYC777 : Looks like ZA386 (LN104) is flying a B-1 flight today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE104
164 Post contains links KarelXWB : Do you also have a high-res version of the second picture? This one I mean: http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboeingcompany/9376279731/ Flight has been
165 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : UAL ZA291 finally off on its C-2 today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE291
166 starrion : Well, there has only been three deliveries, so not everyone has noticed. Perhaps if the Chinese were to fly some pilots over and take a few 787's tha
167 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA260 for Ethiopian is leaving on its delivery flight tonight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETH9201
168 Post contains links KarelXWB : LOT SP-LRE delivered. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/L...7/history/20130729/1730Z/KPAE/EPWA[Edited 2013-07-29 05:17:31]
169 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Apparently still on the flightline according to Matt: http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/361836785829027844
170 KarelXWB : Yes the flight plan has been removed from flightaware.
171 NYC777 : I have to see if Boeing Media has put it up to download and I can IM you and email it to you if you wish. Probably will go tonight. I wouldn't be sur
172 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA320 for Thomson is expected to make its first flight (B-1) later today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE320
173 NYC777 : I just put the hi-res version of the 787-9 on my blog.
174 Post contains links KarelXWB : Here is a video of QR LN103 landing in VCV. http://youtu.be/si1UW2VbsKI Thanks!
175 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA561 going up on a C-1 perhaps? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE561
176 7BOEING7 : Looks like it won't make it today but with only an hour PAE to PAE that would be a B-2. Maybe tomorrow.
177 Post contains links KarelXWB : CZ LN93 finally in paint! http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/9396399851/ United LN117 delivery flight scheduled for July 31. http://twitter.com/Un
178 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Engine cowlings and APU doors are open. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/362035542789079042 http://paineairport.com/kpae6555.htm ZA467 is now in p
179 Post contains links NYC777 : Ok let's try this again: ZA561 going up on a B-2: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE561
180 Post contains links NYC777 : Now that ZA561 is done let's see if they can get ZA320 up for its B-1 flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE320
181 tortugamon : For those without inmediate access, ZA320 is for TUI. tortugamon
182 Post contains links KarelXWB : ET LN39 will try it again. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/362249863473266688 It went back to the flightline. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/
183 Post contains images Someone83 : Thank you
184 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Royal Brunei ZA445 and ZA446 on the assembly line. Pictures were taken on July 30 by http://instagram.com/marul69 And here is a small video, also take
185 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA320 is rescheduled for flight at 2:43PT...about an hour from now. ZA121 looks to be going on a B-2 flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE12
186 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Not sure why you included that last one... For those who cant follow the ZA numbers, can find them here in the spreadsheets( you would have to scroll
187 Post contains links NYC777 : Busy day. ZA242 for Air India is to make another flight today but first one in a long time. I'm not sure if it's a C-1 flight: http://flightaware.com/
188 7BOEING7 : Again, PAE to PAE about an hour = B flight. In this case a B-3 (or FCF its been parked so long -- almost a month). Customer flights should be this sh
189 NYC777 : Soon after ZA242, I was watching the Paine Field Web Cam and another 787 took off but I couldn't tell which one. This was soon after ZA121 had landed.
190 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Matt spotted ZB001 inside 40-24. http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2013/07/paine-field-july-30.html ZA121 did a second flight. Well, it shows a piece of the cab
191 Post contains links KarelXWB : ET ET-AOO (LN39) delivery flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/E...1/history/20130731/0630Z/KPAE/HAAB
192 Post contains links KarelXWB : Well, they did a customer flight: http://www.livemint.com/Companies/9O...reamliner-delay-for-Air-India.html[Edited 2013-07-31 04:22:32]
193 ual747-600 : How long with the power panel replacemant delay delivery? UAL747-600
194 Stitch : If they're in stock, perhaps a day to replace and one more acceptance flight to confirm the new panel is working correctly.
195 NYC777 : Funny this was the aircraft that performed the aerial demonstrations at Paris and conducted several flights before the air show. Now this happens dur
196 Sooner787 : I stopped by KPAE yesterday hoping for a peak at the new 787-9 but didn't see her anywhere. Guess they rolled her back in the factory?
197 KarelXWB : Yes it's inside 40-24 again.
198 Post contains links NYC777 : Everett 787s are getting busy again: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE121 http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE561 I guess these are still Boein
199 7BOEING7 : If that's the case, great. That means on this airplane AIN skipped many of the checks associated with a customer flight -- hopefully they'll do that
200 KarelXWB : With the risk of spoiling the party, this frame had many test flights before the Paris Airshow.
201 7BOEING7 : That's true, one would think all the bugs had been worked out by now but I don't think the customer was on any of those flights.
202 7BOEING7 : How long was this flight or was it just VFR, once around the pattern -- anybody know?
203 KarelXWB : According to Matt, the second flight of ZA121 lasted 20 minutes.
204 NYC777 : Weather at Everett looks terrible!
205 NYC777 : Both ZA561 and ZA121 are up flying. I wonder if these are customer flights for both these aircraft?
206 KarelXWB : United ZA291 should be delivered today.
207 Post contains links KarelXWB : Seems like fixed already: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20130731/1930Z/KPAE/KMWH
208 Post contains links tortugamon : Scheduled to take flight again later today. I guess they had the parts that they needed. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20130731/21
209 NYC777 : Yup looks like it'll be on a C-2, wonder if they can deliver it today?
210 NYC777 : Is this confirmed? Source?
211 Post contains links KarelXWB : It was reported by some people on Twitter. http://twitter.com/UnitedFleetWebs/status/362063268807839744 http://twitter.com/airlinejack/status/3625614
212 NYC777 : Thanks!
213 Post contains links KarelXWB : Looks like it, there are 13 people on board. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/362661641311096832
214 NYC777 : Wonder if it could still be delivered today?
215 7BOEING7 : Actually they didn't, I wouldn't believe everything I read in the press. Whatever AIN ZA242 was going to do this morning has now been changed to a fl
216 Post contains images KarelXWB : I don't think that's impossible, but it will depend on any issues that may be found.
217 Post contains links NYC777 : Boeing not finished for today, ZA320 on a B-1 (hopefully): http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE320
218 Post contains links xaapb : Aeromexico 787 ZA561 was up in the air again for 20 minutes: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE561 was this a B-3? or could this be it's first C-1
219 7BOEING7 : B-3
220 NYC777 : This airplane won't deliver until August 15th so it still has time.
221 Post contains links KarelXWB : United ZA291 is at the delivery center, I wonder if the delivery has slipped? http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/362928261749149696
222 sonomaflyer : Per the UA maintenence/upgrade thread, delivery slipped by a day. It's expected to fly to DEN today.
223 Post contains links KarelXWB : Yeah @UnitedFleetWebs reports the same: http://twitter.com/UnitedFleetWebs/status/362805128299954176
224 Post contains links KarelXWB : ANA ZA121 is wearing a Boeing registration. We've seen this before and it means Boeing is testing new software or made changes to the electrical syste
225 Post contains links ual747-600 : Off topic but it looks like ET-AOO flew it's first revenue flight less than 2.5 hours after arriving HAAB. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETAOO UA
226 flightsimer : It was decided probably five threads ago, that ZA numbers would not be used in discussion, but instead line numbers with Customer name due to most pe
227 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
228 United787 : At the end of 2012, before the grounding, the aircraft that had completed major assembly and change incorporation and were awaiting delivery had shrun
229 United787 : I agree! But...NYC777 did make his charts more viewable from mobile devices...try this link on your iPad, I haven't had any problems viewing it on my
230 Post contains images 777Boeing777 : Couldn't agree more. Excellent site!! Is Charleston at 1-2 a month yet?
231 Post contains links KarelXWB : And here is the delivery flight of United LN117 / N29907: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...2/history/20130801/1900Z/KPAE/KDEN
232 starrion : With respect though, half of those frames sitting there are the result of neglectful carriers who can't or won't take their purchases home. Hainan an
233 sonomaflyer : The carriers aren't neglectful. These are state owned or run carriers that have a burocracy behind them slowing things down. Having so many different
234 hkcanadaexpat : Following all the activity of the last few days and the new month dawning on us. Next up... Deliveries: > A7-BCG (Qatar Airways #8) > VT-ANN (Ai
235 KarelXWB : The number for July was 6, the United bird has slipped into August. I also hoped to see some more deliveries because the temporary production stop at
236 Post contains links KarelXWB : CZ ZA385 on its way to FTW for painting. http://nl.flightaware.com/live/fligh...5/history/20130802/1400Z/KCHS/KFTW
237 NYC777 : Actually UA was formally delivered on July 31st but flew away on Aug. 1st. Official delivery is July 31st as that's when ownership changed hands.
238 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA577 is going up on a B-1 flight today. This is Norwegian's 2nd 787 leased from ILFC: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE577
239 Post contains links KarelXWB : The 9,000-foot CHS runway will reopen on August 7. The Chinese deliveries should not make a stop in BFI anymore. Also Air India can now skip the fuel
240 Post contains links pdxswa : Norwegians second 787 EI-LNB on the flight line at PAE. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Norwe...Boeing-787-8-Dreamliner/2294776/L/
241 flightsimer : Hence why I said at that time. However, still, ZA numbers mean absolutely nothing to the majority of people. At least with line numbers, we know what
242 7BOEING7 : For those that want to see what flights are/have been flown prior to delivery which is part of what this thread is about the block numbers (ZA###) ar
243 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Looks like ILF/NOR ZA577 (112) made it up today but had an issue and diverted back to PAE. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130803/
244 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : QTR ZA468 (116) out on a C-2 this afternoon: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...8/history/20130803/2130Z/KPAE/KPAE
245 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Another picture of ZA467 rolled out in paint can be found here: http://instagram.com/p/cjZJxgTIQQ/ And here, LN100 arriving in FTW: Credit http://ins
246 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : AIN ZA242 (90) flight planned for a C-2 this evening: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE242
247 Post contains links KarelXWB : Another video of Royal Brunei first 787s: http://youtu.be/Tw1z1kQwo7g
248 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : AIN ZA242 (90) airborne on its C-2: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE242
249 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : ANA ZA122 (120) is scheduled for a B-1 this afternoon, wx not an issue: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE122
250 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Air India VT-ANN going on a C-3 shortly. Should be the last before delivery. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE242 A
251 United787 : August could be a big delivery month even if QR, AI, CZ and HU only take one of their planes each. I think this is possible: QR - 1 AI - 1 CZ - 1 HU -
252 Post contains links pdxswa : British Airways 3rd 787 G-ZJBC undergoing change incorporation on a beautiful summers evening. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Briti...Boeing-787-8-Dre
253 JAAlbert : I think BA has the best 787 livery. For some reason that livery just pops on the 787 (it's great on the 380 also!)
254 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : ANA ZA121 (110) filed for a C-1 later today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE121
255 7BOEING7 : Is "change incorporation" still going on, this is line number 114? Isn't this just preflight prep?
256 KarelXWB : That's not change incorporation, just some work being done.
257 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : I agree! I think it has something to do with the engines being painted
258 Post contains links KarelXWB : Japan Airlines LN21 (ZA176) scheduled for a B1 flight. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20130805/2100Z/KPAE/KMWH
259 nomadd22 : Any idea what's going on with LN22?
260 pdxswa : Are we 100 % sure this is not change incorporation?
261 kanban : one can not be 100% sure of anything.. one thing to remember is Boeing is continually updating their products.. so yes maybe a change was scheduled t
262 seabosdca : I suppose it could be "change incorporation" in the sense that some minor, very recent change needs to be done, but it's not "change incorporation" i
263 milestones787 : Any idea what routes the 2 new 787s for LAN that are going to be delivered this month will flying on? I am going to be going to be flying SFO-SCL-SFO
264 kanban : Since we generally limit the thread to production and delivery, leaving post delivery to other threads and forums, I'd suggest you post your question
265 KELPkid : Still sitting there, according to all things 787... there have been grumblings in the rumor mills, though, that ANA is less than interested in taking
266 Post contains links tortugamon : ZA539 CC-BBE for LAN has been scheduled for a B-1. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...9/history/20130806/1400Z/KCHS/KMYR I assume ZA540 out of Eve
267 Post contains images KarelXWB : Why do you think its change incorporation?
268 Post contains images SCL767 : Good to know that CC-BBE will have her first flight today. It is expected that CC-BBD will be delivered before CC-BBE...Hopefully LAN will receive tw
269 tortugamon : Do you have an idea on the route they are going to be used on? This is not a route thread but it does seem likely that when an operator is launching
270 Post contains links KarelXWB : Matt took a picture of ZB001 in the 40-24 building. The workers seems busy, we can see a lot of tools and scaffolding around the plane. The engines co
271 Post contains links KarelXWB : A recent picture, taken on August 5: http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/9446857251/[Edited 2013-08-06 05:18:48]
272 SCL767 : Yes, LAN's 787 schedule will be revised again detailing future 787 operations by the end of this month; (perhaps when LAN celebrates the one year ann
273 frigatebird : Installing test equipment?
274 Post contains links KarelXWB : Within 30 minutes, ANA LN110 / ZA121 will departure on a 5-hour trip towards MWH. ZA121 is still wearing a Boeing test registration, meaning they are
275 Post contains links and images 7BOEING7 : QTR ZA468 (116) filed for a C-3 later today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE468
276 Aircellist : Fascinated by the slow work on the early build… What are the prospects, as of now, for the delivery of the early backlog?
277 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : GUN ZA383 (93) is filed for a B-1 later today. Hopefully the have better luck than JAL ZA176 (21) had yesterday. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BO
278 Post contains images KELPkid : Been wondering the same thing...are the birds that are now allocated to Transaero ones that were allocated to ANA? Does LAN want their early line num
279 SonomaFlyer : The early line number a/c are overweight and require a ton of rework. ANA doesn't want theirs; they want recent builds and given they are the launch
280 seabosdca : Yes. It seems clear that ANA doesn't want any more pre-LN 20 birds. There was a block change at LN 20 where the birds got significantly lighter, so t
281 tortugamon : Boeing has really seemed to play catch up in July. I believe it has been quite a while with only 13 aircraft in preflight prep. The testing team does
282 KarelXWB : The following line numbers were rejected by their customers: > LAN: LN10, LN16 > RAM: LN17, LN19 > ANA: LN11, LN12, LN13, LN14, LN15, LN18,
283 Stitch : They're not a priority for Boeing at the moment, though TransAero's birds are supposedly due next year per Centre for Aviation (Boeing's PR on the or
284 817Dreamliiner : How exactly do you know they were actually rejected by them, if you dont mind me asking? And I think you meant LN15 not LN115.
285 seabosdca : LN 11 is inside the EMC (although who knows if work is actually occurring on it at the moment -- the recent pictures seem to show EMC personnel conce
286 Post contains links KarelXWB : Very simple, it was in the news. http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/ram...efers-787-delivery-until-2014.html A LAN spokesman said something similar, an
287 817Dreamliiner : Thanks, I guess I missed those somewhere along the line.
288 Post contains images KarelXWB : During an interview last year, a LAN spokesman said - and I remember these words clearly - something like "we can get new frames much faster and they
289 VirginFlyer : Apologies if this has been addressed in the past, but why is it that ANA have rejected these frames, but were happy to take LN7, 8, and 9? V/F
290 aotearoa : Zoom in on the engine and check out all the orange flight test wiring.
291 Post contains links pdxswa : An unknown 787 on the PAE flight line. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Boein...d=b0683be1a4405ec6178d9a2dd6e6bc7c
292 Post contains links and images VirginFlyer : Hi Bill, as a quick aside if you want to show pics there is a short code which allows you to automatically generate thumbnails in the forum. You type
293 KarelXWB : LN8 was the first delivery to ANA in 2011. At that time, there was nothing else available because every frame coming of the assembly line needed chan
294 tortugamon : I don't believe the engines have been hung at this point and there are very few things that would need to change to the frame to allow any of these t
295 Post contains images KarelXWB : Engines are not attached on the frames in storage, and changing the pylon is a piece of cake during a change incorporation process of 8 months.
296 tortugamon : Does anyone know the last time that there were only 13/14 aircraft in 'pre flight prep'? Boeing seem to be making great progress as of late. There sho
297 KarelXWB : FYI, LN21 entered change incorporation in September 2012 and is now on the flightline, awaiting its first flight. LN20 started change incorporation i
298 tortugamon : Boeing recently laid off a couple hundred employees in the EMC yet there are plenty of aircraft waiting for change incorporation. To me, it does appe
299 pdxswa : Virgin Flyer thanks for the advice on that its really appreciated !
300 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
301 seabosdca : The other three bays inside the EMC are currently occupied by AI LN25, LN26, and LN28. When did each of these enter the EMC? AI's delivery guidance s
302 nyc777 : Change incorporation is only for those aircraft which have to meet final type certification standards. All pre L/N 66 aircraft fall under that catego
303 Post contains links tortugamon : Looks like Boeing is prioritizing ZA122 over ZA514 for ANA. Are these different seating configurations? Can we tell which are domestic vs long haul fr
304 Post contains images KarelXWB : Not from the line number but from the ZA number: > ZA100-114: domestic 264 seats > ZA500+: domestic 335 seats > ZA115-119: international 158
305 starrion : Has anyone noticed how high the number of test flights are? The AI bird has been up 9 times. QR 6, even the ANA has had 6 test flights. Is this the cu
306 KarelXWB : You sure? The 747 refurbish program has ended and those people were fired or transferred, but I'm not sure about the EMC. LN26 and LN25 are inside si
307 starrion : With as much work there is to do on the 787 program, why wouldn't Boeing pull those people over?
308 United787 : I have and I wondered what is going on. Last Fall it seemed like we had gotten down to 1-2 B flights with 1-2 C flights for many of the aircraft. May
309 kanban : Boeing has learned that there is a maximum number of workers required/necessary, and to exceed that actually slows down the output, is inherently uns
310 Post contains images 7BOEING7 : If you're talking about AIN ZA242 (90), they've had 6 production flights so far -- 3 B and 3 C -- the other flights were related to certification/air
311 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Looks like TUI ZA320 (106) is flight planned for a C-1 this afternoon: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE320
312 Post contains links and images wilco737 : Thread got too long, now part 18 available here: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 18 (by wilco737 Aug 7 2013 in Civil Aviation) THanks. wilco737
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