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Lockheed Constellation "Columbine-II"  
User currently offlinenickh From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 223 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2289 times:
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This is indeed a sad article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...decaying-arizona-article-1.1400350

I remember the first time that I got to see a Lockheed Constellation in person and climb aboard it to get a personal tour. It was at San Jose Municipal, back in the early 1990s, when a friend and I took a plane there on a trip

The nice folks from SAC (Save-A-Connie) Foundation were there on one of the ramps with their Constellation, and the pilot was kind enough to show us around the plane on a personal tour.

Parked right next to it was Bill Cosby's Gulfstream G4 -- got to see that close-up too!

Does anyone know if any efforts are underway to save the classic that is mentioned in the article above?

-Nick
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User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Hey, wait a minute. They are showing two different types of aircraft there---a standard and a Super. The older one must be "Columbine I" which I thought was at the museum across from Davis-Monthan near Tucson-----or was that a 118?    oops senior moment!


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User currently offlineskywaymanaz From United States of America, joined May 2012, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1929 times:

I have seen that plane at the Marana Regional Airport AVQ (not to be confused with old Marana AAF or Pinal Air Park MZJ nearby). I'd heard one of the Columbines was in a museum so I wasn't sure if this was an earlier plane or if it was being restored. Sad end for her and guess it is to much for a museum. She's parked in a place that isn't accessible. Far off in the dirt so you can't really taxi near her. Far away from the terminal too so you'd run afoul of Marana PD if you tried to sneak off for a look   Marana had another Connie down there N494TW restored in MATS colors that I believe was at one time owned by John Travolta.

User currently offlinevc10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1412 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

Marana [AVQ] Avra Valley was the home of the Mats Connie . The nearby Hanger and the hard standing in front of the hanger was it's winter home and where it would undergo it's annual maintenance. Come about Easter it would leave Avra Valley for it's tour of the airshows and would not be back until about the end of October.

It was, years ago, owned by John Travolta but it's last owner , was the one who spent lots of money to get it into airshow condition. If I remember correctly it was in 2005 that it was flown across the north Pacific so as to become a static display at a Korean museum.

At one time Avra Valley was quite a Connie base with the MATS Connie, the Dutch Connie, A proposed Connie for the Swiss, and the Connie in the opening posting.

Those were the days

littlevc10


User currently offlineslider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6924 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

There was already some chatter among some of the EAA faithful and other preservationists to try to save this.

Allegedly--third hand here--the Eisenhower Museum in Kansas might be a potential suitor. But it's going to take a big effort to restore and move, etc.

I hate seeing these beautiful airplanes just languishing there.

[Edited 2013-07-17 07:28:32]

User currently offlinepinsent From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

I swore I was on Columbine II at the WPAFM in Dayton a few years ago... Must have been mistaken.

User currently offlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1159 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Quoting pinsent (Reply 5):
I swore I was on Columbine II at the WPAFM in Dayton a few years ago... Must have been mistaken.

Columbine III, Ike's Air Force One from November 1954 to January 1961.

Yes, all the Columbines are confusing!


User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5164 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1607 times:

Quoting pinsent (Reply 5):
I swore I was on Columbine II at the WPAFM in Dayton a few years ago... Must have been mistaken.

You are close, Columbine III (VC121E - L1049B) is at Wright Patterson in Dayton, and Columbine I (VC121A - L749) is at Pima Air and Space Museum at Tucson.

This is Columbine III at Dayton:


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This is Columbine I at Pima/Tucson:


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This one is Columbine II at Avra Valley.


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While it is sad to see these aircraft "rotting", at least they are not scrapped, and they can be eventually restored. I have seen some wrecks in very bad shape at Pima, and have been restored to something astounding. The Boeing 307 for example.



Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

Quoting nickh (Thread starter):
This is indeed a sad article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...00350

The first 2 photos in that article are of Columbine III, not the aircraft being discussed in the article.


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