B1C17L1011 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 96 posts, RR: 0 Posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4241 times:
I heard that United will sell most of it's 747-400's because of high operating cost and replace them with 777 or airbuses. These 400's will probably be picked up by other carriers who currently use the even less efficient 200 model in favor of scrapping them. I looked at the boeing production list, and it has only been 2-3 747-400's a year for the past few years. After this I'm sure it will be zero. So is this the end of the road for the venerable 747?
0A340 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4128 times:
The 744 passenger orders have been really stagnant the last years.
The latest PAX order for the 747 was the 5-strong Quantas one. The lates hopeful order (about 5) was to be from Lufthansa, which - along with the 15-strong 380 order has been postponed.
Given the willingness of many big operators to lean down their fleets, I won't be surprised to see lots of 744 on storage soon - which suggests that production will certainly suffer.
Yow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4117 times:
No way that I see production ending of the might 744 anytime soon. While demand for passenger versions has fallen significantly over the past couple of years, demand for the 744F freighter has been strong and will also likely ensure that the 747 will continue to be produced for many years to come. With 30,000 layoffs they may cut production down to 1.5 or 2 aircraft a month. This slow production rate amounts to only 18-24 new 744s a year. The oldest 744s are now 12 years old, meaning that they will start being replaced within the next decade, likely by new 744s or A380s.
KAL_LM From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 497 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4096 times:
They may slow production way down. But if they ended it, Boeing would probably scrap all the die and tooling et. al. and then to have to resume production at a later date would cost a lot of money. Probably they'll keep it around.
But in no way does this mean the end of the 747.
is that a light at the end of the tunnel or just a train?
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4036 times:
as KAL said, keeping low-level production going when there is a good chance of future orders is cheaper in the long run than having to start again from scratch.
That's why the plans to restart F-14 production to replace the current F-14s (after cancellation of NATF) never stood a serious chance.
Boeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4005 times:
Near term, the 744 line is strong. Freighters will support the line for some time.
But, September 11, 2001, has changed everything. We are in a new world now. The 747 should be in production for some time with the 744ER. But if poeple stay out of airplanes, and the airlines keep taking financial blows, there may not be a need for the queen of the skies.
God I hope I'm wrong. The 747 is my favorite aircraft. I would truly have to empty a caraffe of brandy mourning the passing of this irreplacible aircraft.