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Landing Incident Sukhoi Superjet At Keflavik  
User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 708 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 33366 times:

Found this on Twitter... no words needed:


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Oh dear. Sukhoi #Superjet very badly damaged, apparently during landing at Reykjavik: pic.twitter.com/a4bTIy8Fs6
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Looks like #Sukhoi #Superjet involved in landing accident at Reykjavik is prototype aircraft 95005.

Credits to @FlightDKM  

//Edit: Changed title to Keflavik, Tweet made me think it was at Reykjavik... But looking closer I realized it was KEF

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[Edited 2013-07-21 20:18:19 by moderators]


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User currently offlineB747400ERF From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2013, 426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 33372 times:

I don't see the gear down.

User currently offlineicelander From Iceland, joined Dec 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 33295 times:

According to media in Iceland, the accident occurred at around 05:30 GMT this morning at Keflavik International Airport.

Five russians were onboard. One was taken to hospital with minor injuries.

The plane has been here for a few days, performing test flights. This morning, however, the landing gear failed to deploy, and the plane landed and ran off the runway.

The runway that the plane landed on is now closed, but all other operations at the airport are as per normal.

Mark.


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 33265 times:

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 1):

I don't see the gear down.

You're right, first I thought the nose gear was hidden behind the slides, but it is supposed to be underneath the cockpit...



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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 33225 times:

The second incident and only 16 or so have been delivered.

Not good...



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User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 33085 times:

Not good. Sorry to see this aircraft having such a bad time.

User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 32672 times:

Does KEF have a spare runway so that operations aren't affected?


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 31827 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 6):
Does KEF have a spare runway so that operations aren't affected?

RWY 20 is still available....



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 31778 times:

The a/c is busted, maybe a write off, but at least no deaths or serious injuries. Sure hurts the already troubled Superjet program.

User currently offlineawacsooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1902 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 31443 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 4):
The second incident and only 16 or so have been delivered.

Not good...

Am I the only one having flashbacks to all the Soviet-era jet accidents?


User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 1722 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 31396 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 6):
Does KEF have a spare runway so that operations aren't affected?

This is KEF



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User currently offlineasgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 30860 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 6):
Does KEF have a spare runway so that operations aren't affected?

The Sukhoi Superjet landed on runway 11 so 11/29 is out of order for the time being.

More details here: http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20130721-0

Keflavik has two runways at a 90° angle against each other, 11/29 as well as 20/02. Both are nearly the same length (about 3.000 m, 10.000 ft.).



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 29874 times:

Quoting icelander (Reply 2):
The plane has been here for a few days, performing test flights. This morning, however, the landing gear failed to deploy, and the plane landed and ran off the runway.

IIRC, haven't Aeroflot complained about landing gear issues with their Superjets ? I believe in those cases, failure to retract properly.

This certainly seems to be a star-crossed program.



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User currently offlinePvjin From Finland, joined Mar 2012, 1251 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 28044 times:

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 9):
Am I the only one having flashbacks to all the Soviet-era jet accidents?

Probably as factually Russian aviation had its most unsafe period in the 90's after Soviet Union broke and much of Aeroflot was divided into small privately owned airlines.

Aeroflot's safety record in the times of Soviet Union wasn't that bad at all if we consider the extreme conditions of Siberia where many planes flew & the huge size of Aeroflot at that time. (according to some source they had around 1300 airliners and several thousands of smaller planes in the late 80's).

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User currently offlineely747 From Slovakia, joined Jan 2013, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 27385 times:

Since this was testing and not a schedulled flight, are the Russiangs going have to foot the bill for all the cost KEF incurred ?

User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 26717 times:
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Press release by Sukhoi, via email:

"Aviation Incident with Sukhoi Superjet 100 during Test Flights on Expanding Operational Conditions

Today, July 21, 2013, at 05.25 local time at Keflavik International Airport (Reykjavik, Iceland) an aviation incident with Sukhoi Superjet 100 tail number 97005 took place.

At the final stage of test flights to evaluate Sukhoi Superjet 100 performance of automatic landing system to execute CAT III A with strong crosswind conditions as part of additional certification trials on expanding operational conditions as well as imitation of landing with one engine failure the aircraft has touched the runway with retracted landing gear.

There were five people on board: three crew members, two certification center experts. No victims as a result of the incident occurred. One of the experts damaged his leg during evacuation procedures.

At the time of the incident all aircraft systems were functioning normally. Based on SCAC preliminary estimation the aircraft will be restored and returned back to test flights program."



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User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 26666 times:

Geez, this is the last thing that Sukhoi want. I really wanted the Superjet to be successful - this certainly won't help things.

Although I just had a quick look and the Superjet does indeed have over two hundred orders, which is more than I thought it had. Hmm!



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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 26676 times:

Probably cross wind testing. Boeing and Airbus both use KEF for testing. Some of the video is amazing.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25149 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 23664 times:

So two demonstration aircraft have been involved in accidents now.

Not a very good public relations, or confidence builder in the program.



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User currently onlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 23079 times:
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Interjet was having the shivers for several days now and with this...I´m sure they are positively panicking.

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 15):
At the final stage of test flights to evaluate Sukhoi Superjet 100 performance of automatic landing system to execute CAT III

This is key for Interjet as Toluca sees those conditions during winter, and as far as I know, they are the only pilots trained in Mexico along with Volaris for CAT III operations.



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User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 22046 times:

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 15):
the aircraft has touched the runway with retracted landing gear.

Interesting choice of words. And yeah, I guess this can be called touching:



But does the wording indicate that everything worked nominally, including gear, but the aircraft was accidentally brought into contact, when it should have been flying? Or that the crew forgot to lower the gear?


User currently offlineTheRedBaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2211 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 21801 times:

Interjet, needs these Jets to make a Stop at CATEMACO, to use some of the local Chamans to exorcise the bad luck of these aircraft..

And now what ?

TRB



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User currently offlinerc135x From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 20695 times:

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 15):
At the time of the incident all aircraft systems were functioning normally.
Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 20):
Or that the crew forgot to lower the gear?

Based on the press release this would be a likely cause if all systems were working perfectly. Single-engine ILS with major crosswinds, task saturation, easy to forget something.

If there was a mechanical problem with the gear not extending prior to landing then they should have discontinued the approach and resolved the problem or declared an emergency and then landed in an appropriate emergency configuration.

We should wait to see if there are any indications/ATC transmissions that there was an emergency or mechanical problem on board.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):
So two demonstration aircraft have been involved in accidents now.

Not a very good public relations, or confidence builder in the program.

True, but neither reflects poorly on the airplane....


User currently offlinegoosebayguy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 20608 times:

Its going to cost a fortune to send a repair team here. Hotel bills alone will be astronomical.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 20648 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):
So two demonstration aircraft have been involved in accidents now.

Not a very good public relations, or confidence builder in the program.

Two MD-80s were involved in accidents 6 weeks apart during the development program in 1980.

This one, at Edwards AFB was repaired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COsT6DqkTDc
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19800502-0

This one, 6 weeks later at Yuma, Arizona, was written off.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19800619-0

[Edited 2013-07-21 13:02:21]

25 r2rho : Looks like a flight test gone wrong... very likely not an issue with the aircraft itself, but more bad press is the last thing the Superjet needs... N
26 Polot : Unfortunately for Superjet and other Russian airframe makers, Western airlines are currently where most of the money is.
27 LAXintl : Yes and MDC has a terrible difficult time selling the model at the time. They even had to revert to 1970s Airbus tactics of giving airlines free airf
28 DexSwart : This doesn't have anything to do with Interjet, does it? I thought that aircraft was already painted in VCE. Or am I wildly off course? What are the p
29 DTW2HYD : Looks like a software glitch, but why didn't they take control and go around. Or what the heck test belly landing.
30 Post contains links Viscount724 : No, the accident aircraft is one of the prototype test aircraft. However, coincidentally, Interjet's first aircraft was being delivered yesterday, al
31 Post contains links Voodoo : The 1st Interjet took off painted from Venice on Saturday and did pass through KEF but has now arrived in Bangor, Maine and will leave for Mexico on
32 Post contains links RubberJungle : Doesn't have to be anything as technical as a software glitch. Failing to concentrate will do it every time: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...l
33 sandyb123 : True, but the SSJ has picked up some orders from the East and there are going to be continued and strong orders coming from airlines in Aisa Pac and
34 Polot : The problem is that a majority of those not from the West or not from Russia are from third tier operators. Superjet's order book has an impressive l
35 777fan : All systems...except for the systems that deal with landing gear deployment. Impressive by size, or by stature? I'd argue their stature couldn't be t
36 Post contains links gatechae : Also don't forget the A320 crash in 1988 http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880626-0
37 Polot : I meant stature. And not impressive as in they have impressive stature, but impressive in terms of the number of third tier airlines that make of the
38 B747400ERF : I think we should reserve judgment on the pilots before all the facts are out.
39 Post contains links and images clickhappy : We now have a picture in the database: View Large View MediumPhoto © Eggert Norðdahl
40 mpsrent : Ouch! This looks costly. Not a good situation.
41 rc135x : I concur.
42 Mark2fly1034 : That plane needs some winglets IMO
43 ferpe : What about the checklist for a OEI landing versus an normal one, do you extend the gear later? Could it be that the OEI CAT III checklist needs improv
44 SSTeve : Slides appear to work fine.
45 TripleDelta : Here's another release from Sukhoi, also received via email:
46 Post contains images PHX787 : My history books are screaming at me right now looking at this. That will not quell the fears of passengers now, especially since two prototypes have
47 planewasted : The good thing about this is that it proved that the aircraft is sturdy built and can handle a belly landing.
48 Post contains images David L : I'm not sure what you're getting at there. There were also more accidents in the west in those days and there still some accidents happening today. W
49 Post contains images r2rho : Have you checked financial reports of Western airlines over the past 10 years? In fact, those airlines are precisely where the money isn't. The West
50 Polot : Have you checked to see where those airlines order airplanes from? The Western image still matters, as most of those carriers target westerners. Sovi
51 777fan : Of course not, because the demand in China overwhelmingly lies in larger aircraft. A quick review of airfleets.net reveals that China is indeed A32X
52 Post contains links and images asgeirs : According to the icelandic news media, preparations to remove the aircraft from where it lies (just off the far end of rwy 11, see photo below) are un
53 jetmarc : Maybe that was sarcasm... but 1L seems to not have been armed and the 1R slide seems to have inflated "backwards" and is folded under itseflt, stuck
54 ferpe : Latest information is that the approach was OK with landing gear extended. They then willingly aborted, retracted the gear and then somehow touched th
55 Post contains images r2rho : Very good summary which confirms my earlier suspicions. OEI, MTOW, strong crosswind, Cat III, go-around.... can't get much more challenging than that
56 Post contains links and images ferpe : That is what now remains to be investigated, here more info: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...limb-after-missed-approach-388828/ Why the frame
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