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Australian Aviation Thread # 76  
User currently offlineQF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 677 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 23078 times:

G'day and welcome to the Australian Aviation Thread # 76. In the previous thread, the following points were discussed/raised:

* Virgin Australia announces Velocity points for transporting pets
* Brindabella Airlines & Qantas announce codesharing agreement
* EVA Air ups Brisbane frequencies to 3 over Christmas
* Qantas mulls more Gold Coast flights
* Brisbane and Melbourne Airport growth
* Image of Jetstar's first 787 VH-VKA
* Ansett collapse and growth of then Virgin Blue
* Tiger Airways rebrands as Tigerair
* Malaysia Airlines confirms Darwin flights with 737s from November 2013
* Jetstar confirms cancellation of Gold Coast - Perth flights effective 27 October 2013
* Thai Airways to fly its new 777-300ERs on Brisbane - Bangkok from February 2014
* Perth Airport movements
* Jetstar Hong Kong
* Increased Parking fees at Melbourne Airport
* Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast Airports
* Connect Jet confirms plans to start Dubbo - Griffith - Melbourne (Essendon) flights
* Emirates A380 promos at Brisbane Airport
* Qantas Frequent Flyer point changes on AA
* Alitalia looking at expanded codeshare services to Australia
* Jetstar 787 billboard
* Virgin Australia announces codeshare and FF partnership with Airberlin
* Emirates reportedly planning to fly A380s to Perth from March 2014
* China Airlines reportedly planning to operate 747s on the Brisbane - Taipei route over Christmas
* Qantas completes the cabin reconfiguration program on its A380s
* Qantas releases the most popular destinations for Frequent Flyer redemptions
* Emirates extremely happy with their Adelaide flights
* Virgin Australia network disruption
* Another Antonov arrives in Australia from New Zealand
* Jetstar to recommence Brisbane - Hobart flights from 27 October 2013

Australian Aviation Thread # 75

Pleasing to see that we won't have to put up with a certain poster's drivel and unqualified statements any longer!

 

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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5204 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 22664 times:

Well to get the ball rolling, in #77 we had a bit of discussion about HA at BNE...

The HA Q2 results have been released, and as LAXintl has helpfully provided us with a precis of the earnings call two comments caught my eye:

1) BNE is "maturing fast" - this is really great to see, I wish them the best in Brisbane

2) There has been a 20% capacity increase by competitors in the ANZ-HA market [i.e. JQ+NZ] - it will be interesting to see if this is sustainable...

Hawaiian Air Post Q2 Profit - $12.6 Million Net (by LAXintl Jul 23 2013 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 22646 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 1):
2) There has been a 20% capacity increase by competitors in the ANZ-HA market [i.e. JQ+NZ] - it will be interesting to see if this is sustainable...

As the dollar drops, the real pressure will start to come.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 1):
1) BNE is "maturing fast" - this is really great to see, I wish them the best in Brisbane

Good to see they are seeing progress there so far.


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5204 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 22645 times:

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 2):
As the dollar drops, the real pressure will start to come.

Definitely. This is what I said in the last thread during a discussion with a certain person:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 181):
Hawai'i tourism ex Australia has been artificially high for the last couple of years due to the high Australian Dollar. This made Hawai'i much more affordable for people who would otherwise have considered Fiji or Phuket, and also made it a very attractive shopping destination. The moneyed crowd would go for the weekend to shop in Neiman Marcus (at half the price of David Jones) and the savings would just about pay for the trip. Both of those sources of visitors will be impacted if the Australian Dollar continues to fall.

JQ will be affected more than HA as the latter can feed into the US mainland, but it is going to be interesting to see how sustainable the massive growth in Australia-Hawai'i traffic will prove to be.



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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 22636 times:

^^ Good analysis of the situation.

You would likely see QF move out of the market first if things do fall, with JQ used as the remaining group brand.

JQ's lower costs would allow it to better compete with HA in that situation. Its fine at present, but that would change as the dollar drops.


User currently offlinevhebb From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 22462 times:

QF and EK are set to announce the joint Trans Tasman operation tomorrow.

Wonder what the new combined schedule will look like... And if any new routes are talked about, ADL-AKL, PER-AKL or even BNE to CHC or WLG would be nice!


User currently offlineJQflightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 22431 times:

Can anyone tell me why there is a AirNorth E170 just departing SYD now?
It would have departed around 2030 and is heading north now.
Charter??



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User currently offlinekoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22359 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 3):
Hawai'i tourism ex Australia has been artificially high for the last couple of years due to the high Australian Dollar. This made Hawai'i much more affordable for people who would otherwise have considered Fiji or Phuket, and also made it a very attractive shopping destination

I guess that I'm now about to be flamed like a certain absent poster for expounding opinions without facts to back them up.

I share the concern, but only if the A$ falls below around US$0.85.

I would argue that Hawaii tourism ex-Australia has been corrected after a long artificial low caused by an unrealistically low exchange rate. To me, as someone who spends considerable time in both Australia and the USA I would argue that dollar parity is about right, and that if Australian exporters cannot cope with the dollar at that level that tells us far more about the inflated prices we pay in this country due to a very small number of companies having a stranglehold over the key levers of the economy. That is what happens when you under-regulate the economy in a country with fewer than 25 million consumers. But that's an argument for elsewhere.

I visited Phuket for the first time earlier this year after making several trips to Hawaii each year for as long as I can remember. I knew all about the flesh trade, but I expected hotels and restaurants to be considerably cheaper than Hawaii (they weren't) and I imagined that the imitation designer goods would be plausible rather than the comically cheap crap they actually are. And that's before being endlessly hassled by people trying to peddle everything from massages to, ahem, other things. And also before watching Russian guests at my hotel's private beach at Karon using the beach as a receptacle for every body fluid from spit to urine in broad daylight.

I found myself thinking that Phuket was inferior in every possible respect to Hawaii as a destination, and that its only market advantage would be at extremely cheap prices. But given that I bought 4 pairs of designer jeans at Macy's in Orange County last week for less than A$150 in total - and I have no doubts about their authenticity - I struggle to see how Phuket can possibly compete with Hawaii for Australian tourism except in the sex tourism niche or when the A$ is undervalued again.

Incidentally, I think that Hawaii remains a partly untapped market ex-Australia.

Waikiki from 2 to 5 stars is pretty comprehensively served. But the neighbor islands remain places where it is a shock to the system to hear an Aussie accent, and the top end of the market - the Four Seasons, Ritz-Carlton and St Regis properties - seem to get virtually no Australian guests at all.


User currently offlineADDICT4QF From Australia, joined Feb 2011, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22352 times:

It is arguable that as the AUD falls, price sensitive consumers will begin to leave the OZ-HNL market, which would have travelled on JQ (rather than QF). There could be merit in JQ pulling back some capacity, as opposed to QF.

User currently offlinekoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22334 times:

Quoting ADDICT4QF (Reply 8):
It is arguable that as the AUD falls, price sensitive consumers will begin to leave the OZ-HNL market, which would have travelled on JQ (rather than QF). There could be merit in JQ pulling back some capacity, as opposed to QF.

I couldn't agree more.

Hawaii is pretty obviously a market more suited to a full-service than an LCC model for flights of this length from Australia, as the success of Hawaiian and Qantas shows.

In my opinion, the number of Jetstar flights owes everything to Qantas Group strategy being to siphon off to Jetstar as much as possible of a profitable route to inflate its results. Qantas is allowed a nibble simply because management are at least able to see that a substantial part of the market won't fly Jetstar under any circumstances, and they would rather keep some of that higher-yielding traffic rather than gift it all to Hawaiian, which if they did it would take their policy beyond the current deliberate damage to their main brand and artificial inflation of Jetstar, beyond arguably into the realms of near-criminal mismanagement.

I would say that the economic argument should be as follows:

If the A$ goes above US1.10, consider Qantas exiting and Jetstar increasing capacity.

If the A$ goes below US$0.90, consider Jetstar exiting and Qantas increasing capacity.


User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 916 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 22228 times:

Quoting koruman (Reply 7):
I visited Phuket for the first time earlier this year after making several trips to Hawaii each year for as long as I can remember. I knew all about the flesh trade, but I expected hotels and restaurants to be considerably cheaper than Hawaii (they weren't) and I imagined that the imitation designer goods would be plausible rather than the comically cheap crap they actually are. And that's before being endlessly hassled by people trying to peddle everything from massages to, ahem, other things. And also before watching Russian guests at my hotel's private beach at Karon using the beach as a receptacle for every body fluid from spit to urine in broad dayligh

Thank you sir, I have just crossed Phuket off my "bucket list".



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4869 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 22065 times:

Quoting TN486 (Reply 10):
Quoting koruman (Reply 7):
I visited Phuket for the first time earlier this year after making several trips to Hawaii each year for as long as I can remember. I knew all about the flesh trade, but I expected hotels and restaurants to be considerably cheaper than Hawaii (they weren't) and I imagined that the imitation designer goods would be plausible rather than the comically cheap crap they actually are. And that's before being endlessly hassled by people trying to peddle everything from massages to, ahem, other things. And also before watching Russian guests at my hotel's private beach at Karon using the beach as a receptacle for every body fluid from spit to urine in broad dayligh

Thank you sir, I have just crossed Phuket off my "bucket list".

Don't allow 1 negative feedback response cross Phuket off your bucket list. For starters people go to Patong Beach or Karon Beach & then claim they've been to Phuket. Phuket is made of 100s of beaches and I can tell you there are far better beaches and destinations in Thailand which I'd visit / visited prior to going to "Phuket".

EK8413



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User currently offlineDeltaB717 From Australia, joined Jun 2012, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 21962 times:
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Quoting JQflightie (Reply 6):
Can anyone tell me why there is a AirNorth E170 just departing SYD now?
It would have departed around 2030 and is heading north now.
Charter??

Flight numbers are a bit ambiguous but from the routing I'd imagine Defence charter. Reg is VH-ANV

[Edited 2013-07-24 16:26:29]

User currently offlineQFVHOQA From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 21945 times:

Following on from the discussion of JQ starting BNE-HBA, I hear that as a result they are ending OOL-HBA.

User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5204 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 21909 times:

Quoting QFVHOQA (Reply 13):
Following on from the discussion of JQ starting BNE-HBA, I hear that as a result they are ending OOL-HBA.

I'm sure that Koruman will have something to say about OOL and BNE being different markets, and to an extent I agree with him, but IMHO if you are going to serve just one of them it still makes sense to fly to BNE.

While there is general awareness in Brisbane that you can get cheap flights to Japan, Malaysia, and Singapore from OOL, I would expect that there are fewer people who would think of OOL for domestic flights.

With BNE you bring in the entire SEQ market, most obviously including the city of Brisbane, but also the Sunshine Coast, Ipswich, and even Toowoomba.

The north bound leisure traffic is likely to simply fly to BNE and rent a car, as opposed to fly to OOL and rent a car. While it adds an hour or so to your journey, I still think that the northbound leisure traffic would choose BNE over a stopover in MEL or SYD, especially if the fairs are lower, which I expect that they will be. Moreover, sticking with the northbound leisure market, this means that JQ now offer the Sunshine Coast to the Hobart market. Maybe I'm biased, but I prefer the north side!

For southbound traffic, the advantages are obvious. The market is significantly larger, and a lot of people on the Gold Coast, especially around Southport and up, taking in Helensvale etc. would probably drive to BNE as opposed to OOL and then stop at SYD or MEL.

While I would like to see both served, and I wouldn't be surprised if they both are at some point in the future, if they feel that they can only make one SEQ airport work, then I think that BNE is optimal.



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5204 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 21811 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 11):
Don't allow 1 negative feedback response cross Phuket off your bucket list. For starters people go to Patong Beach or Karon Beach & then claim they've been to Phuket

Too true, I mentioned in the last thread someone I know who has just been to the "other side" of Bali. She planned to go for a week or so, and ended up staying for three months! The only reason she came back was that her visa expired. My first cynical thought was "other than drugs, what do you do in Bali for three months?!"

I couldn't believe some of her stories. It sounds like a truly wonderful and fascinating place if you go to the right places. She was staying in a small fishing village that only the hardiest of souls made the effort to get to. She may as well have been on another planet to Kuta, but to my shame I wasn't really aware that there was much to Bali other than Kuta.

I don't blame you, Koruman, neither Bali nor Phuket are on my "to do" list, but for those that have the time to find them then there are some real gems. I guess it's much easier for a 20 year old with a backpack and no reservation, than for you with a family and a resort booked to make these discoveries.

Quoting koruman (Reply 7):
I guess that I'm now about to be flamed like a certain absent poster for expounding opinions without facts to back them up

Not from me. While I don't always agree with all of your points, I nonetheless respect both you and your opinions.

My best friend and I are on the opposite side of aisle when it comes to politics (and also airlines - I'm a Qantas boy, whereas he goes into bat for the other side). We can sometimes have some heated conversations, but we both recognise the other as having legitimate views, and also we've been mates forever so we're not going to let that get in the way of anything.

We have two common acquaintances, however, who have some crazy ideas, one on the far left and one on the far right. I don't respect their opinions, and won't give them the time of day, mostly because I think that they're just trying to wind people up and grab attention, rather because they actually believe everything that they're saying.

That's the difference between you and the other person, as far I'm concerned  
Quoting koruman (Reply 7):
I would argue that Hawaii tourism ex-Australia has been corrected after a long artificial low caused by an unrealistically low exchange rate

That's an interesting argument, and do see where you are coming from with regards to the potential for tourism in HI.

However, given that even 85c is above long-term trends I would still say that level represents "normal" demand to HI, and when the AUD goes above that level then we start to generate additional demand. Just my opinion

Quoting koruman (Reply 7):
as someone who spends considerable time in both Australia and the USA I would argue that dollar parity is about right

A man of my own heart   

We probably benefit disproportionately, and our judgment is therefore clouded somewhat, but I agree 100%

Quoting koruman (Reply 7):
if Australian exporters cannot cope with the dollar at that level that tells us far more about the inflated prices we pay in this country due to a very small number of companies having a stranglehold over the key levers of the economy

  

Quoting koruman (Reply 7):
That is what happens when you under-regulate the economy in a country with fewer than 25 million consumers


This is where we differ, as you say it's a discussion for someplace else, but I would say that we're over-regulated. If our industries aren't efficient then we need to except that the world has changed, and figure out where our advantages lie.



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User currently offlinekoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 21782 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 14):
I'm sure that Koruman will have something to say about OOL and BNE being different markets, and to an extent I agree with him, but IMHO if you are going to serve just one of them it still makes sense to fly to BNE.

While there is general awareness in Brisbane that you can get cheap flights to Japan, Malaysia, and Singapore from OOL, I would expect that there are fewer people who would think of OOL for domestic flights.

With BNE you bring in the entire SEQ market, most obviously including the city of Brisbane, but also the Sunshine Coast, Ipswich, and even Toowoomba.

Unfortunately, I agree.

Transport links are so appalling in southeast Queensland that no sane Brisbane resident is going to take a domestic flight from OOL. The 80km "fast" train from Robina to Brisbane Airport takes practically two hours - three times as long as equivalent journeys in Europe - while airport parking costs are absurd at both OOL and BNE, both at the airport and offsite. In that context, the closer airport is always going to prevail.

The result is a splintered market, one in which small domestic destinations will always be more viable from BNE than OOL simply because its direct catchment area is three times as big..


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25012 posts, RR: 85
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 days ago) and read 21706 times:
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Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 15):
I couldn't believe some of her stories. It sounds like a truly wonderful and fascinating place if you go to the right places. She was staying in a small fishing village that only the hardiest of souls made the effort to get to. She may as well have been on another planet to Kuta, but to my shame I wasn't really aware that there was much to Bali other than Kuta.

Start with Singaraja, which has an old colonial feel to it. The beaches may not be as good (some small beaches are great), but the marine life is wonderful, countless dolphins sometimes.

If you want a "catered vacation" there are some good hotels at Lovina Beach - not as ritzy or cosmopolitan as on the south side of the island, but still fine and without the tourist hordes - the Puri Bagas, e.g.:

http://www.lovina.puribagus.net
http://www.padmasariresort.com/
http://www.nugrahalovina.com

Because there are fewer tourists there is more contact with the locals and I've always found them very friendly. Further to the west the population is more ethnically mixed as many Javanese have moved there, especially around Gilimanuk - (there's a mosque) - where you can get a ferry to Java.

What to do? What to do anywhere in Bali other than enjoy. I get very bored with beaches very quickly and I've met some very interesting off-the-beaten-track people, having an adventure, not a beach blot-out.

All along the coast there are small towns and fishing villages, and there's usually somewhere to stay and somewhere to eat - but don't expect to find discos or MacDonalds.

It isn't for everyone - it may not be for some here - but generally, the north now is what the south was like thirty years ago.

mariner

[Edited 2013-07-24 20:36:24]


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User currently offlinenirvarma From New Zealand, joined May 2005, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 21667 times:

Anybody know why AC34 SYD - YVR is diverting to BNE?
http://www.flightradar24.com/ACA34

Cheers
NV


User currently offlineeaglefarm4 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 21597 times:

I heard the tower acknowledge a Pan Pan.


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User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 21355 times:

Today QF officially unveiled its Trans Tasman QF / EK tie up. It's nothing that we here knew what was going to happen. Shame there was nothing about the much rumoured PER / AKL EK flight.




http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/med...mirates-partnership-in-new-zealand



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User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5204 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 21311 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 20):

Today QF officially unveiled its Trans Tasman QF / EK tie up

Just to be clear, nothing has changed from a customer standpoint other than codesharing and joint sales? There were no news routes etc?

The internal inconsistency in that PR is quite amusing, QF are claiming that there will be "about 130" TT services per week, wheras EK are saying "over 140".

Maybe there is still an announcement to come after all     



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User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 21164 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 21):
Just to be clear, nothing has changed from a customer standpoint other than codesharing and joint sales? There were no news routes etc?

Correct, It is as per the status-quo. The biggest difference IMO will see EK entering the market on the WLG and ZQN flights via codeshare.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 21):
Maybe there is still an announcement to come after all

Hmm .. Possible, we will just have to be patient and see what eventuates



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User currently offlineQFVHOQA From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 418 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 20899 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 20):
Today QF officially unveiled its Trans Tasman QF / EK tie up.

Does QF have the aircraft to operate ADL/PER-AKL? ADL-AKL could be done easily on a 738, but PER-AKL would have to be a 763. I suppose they could delay the retirement of a 763 when more A332s arrive from JQ.

EK can't fit in ADL-AKL with their current timings as the late arrival to ADL would mean arriving AKL ~3am. If they switched to the afternoon departure bank then it's possible, but a 77W is really overkill for ADL-AKL.

To me, PER-AKL looks more likely on EK. EK420 could extend to AKL with a decent schedule, however mirrors NZ's flight to AKL.


User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 20654 times:

Quoting QFVHOQA (Reply 23):
Does QF have the aircraft to operate ADL/PER-AKL? ADL-AKL could be done easily on a 738, but PER-AKL would have to be a 763. I suppose they could delay the retirement of a 763 when more A332s arrive from JQ.

They could have the aircraft to fly (Not so sure about jet connect), however QF did try ADL/AKL once and well, it didn't last very long, from memory, less than 12 months.

Quoting QFVHOQA (Reply 23):
To me, PER-AKL looks more likely on EK. EK420 could extend to AKL with a decent schedule, however mirrors NZ's flight to AKL.

Agree, Don't think we will see QF metal on this if this ever goes ahead, IMO I think it will be the EK



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25 EK413 : Haven't EK reached their limit on the Trans Tasman routes? EK8413
26 smi0006 : The biggest change for customers s they are now able to access lounges for each carrier inline with their lounge policy for Europe, Afric and the Midd
27 ZK-NBT : Yes. Not gonna happen unless as above the bilateral is amended. There isn't alot of options for PER-AKL schedules, I'm guessing QF would use a A332 c
28 RyanairGuru : I agree, QR already sells connections through QF and VA over MEL and PER (for example you can go to the QR website and book a flight from BNE) but a
29 FlyboyOz : China Airlines will operate its B744 between TPE and BNE in summer (between Dec to Feb) Eva Air has changed its flight schedule - Arrive BNE in the mo
30 QFVHOQA : I have to say, compared to BA's 734s they are as good as new!
31 zkokq : As far as I am aware that is not a change at all. Thats how it currently is.
32 Sandgroper : Well if Perth Airport could get their act together with A380 air bridges EK maybe interested in pushing more demand via AKL through PER with an QF re
33 IndianicWorld : I don't think it really needs to get onto the PER-AKL route. Not sure 2 carriers on that sector would do that well TBH. Will QF want to allocate a A3
34 Post contains links and images EK413 : Earlier in the week I mentioned vast amount of earth work at SYD & it appears to be additional hard stands considering the airport is struggling w
35 Post contains images TruemanQLD : A much more impressive transport I thought the BBJ's would be more luxurious and better suited? No?
36 IndianicWorld : ^^ Didn't he go to Afghanistan? Maybe this was considered a better choice for that mission. It may have also been carrying additional cargo for troops
37 EK413 : Give me the A330 anyday but your right the BBJ would be more luxurious Yes, he sure did. His BBJ is parked right behind the tanker but I saw K. Rudd
38 eaglefarm4 : Emirates will start A380's on 01 March DXB-PER-DXB on the EK420/421 EVA has been doing this for the past year.Arrive in the morning and depart at nig
39 ZuluAlpha : Wasn't their talk a while back that the Australian government was looking at a replacement for the governments VIP fleet of BBJ? Or am I completely o
40 Post contains links QFVHOQA : D7 is starting ADL-KUL 5x weekly from October 31. The AirAsia website is offering $99 launch fares but I can't seem to get it to load the timings. Air
41 IndianicWorld : I can't see there being room for 2 carriers on ADL-KUL, and the D7 cost base will likely be a major benefit over MH. The premium market is not huge f
42 Post contains links and images IndianicWorld : http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...y8217/story-fni0fit3-1226687150609 HERALD Sun readers are largely opposed to a proposal for an airport at Melbo
43 Post contains images RyanairGuru : Good God! Now I really have heard it all That's the be the most bizarre comment of all. Can anyone name a "city airport" that "better service low-cost
44 Post contains images IndianicWorld : The sickness is spreading To be fair, I guess they had to come up with some kind of idea to justify the trip. I'm sure though that something more log
45 QFVHOQA : Closest would be CIA - it's 14km from the Colosseum while FCO is 28km away. CIA only hosts flights from FR & W6 but is inferior to FCO (and that'
46 ZK-NBT : 4x weekly I thought. Good for ADL anyway! Interesting MH will add an 8th weekly ADL service for a 4 week period during December January.
47 Post contains images RyanairGuru : You jogged my memory: Gothenburg is another. Ryanair and Wizz fly to "Gothenburg City Airport" (9.3km) as opposed to Landvetter (20km) Never been to
48 QFVHOQA : MDW is another if you consider WN to still be an LCC. Off topic i know, but FCO was indeed quite the disgrace when I flew out of there last year. And
49 Post contains images RyanairGuru : hahahahaha Now you've opened a whole new kettle of fish! The quality of Italian airports is superb compared to Greece. Let's just say that I have "fo
50 Post contains links and images QF175 : VIRGIN AUSTRALIA - BRISBANE LOUNGE Virgin Australia has opened an extension to its Brisbane Lounge, with the new facility offering additional seating,
51 tullamarine : Yes, the BBJs are due for replacement in the next couple of years and it is rumoured the government are keen on something bigger as they often have t
52 eta unknown : Is it my imagination, but have "Clive 1" & "Clive 2" moved from BNE???
53 RyanairGuru : Is this lounge connected to the main lounge, or is it separate? From the pictures it looks like it is jutting out from the end of the building past G
54 TN486 : Pardon the ignorance, but what type of ac is Clive 1 and Clive 2 (suspect something to do with Clive Palmer?)
55 Post contains links eaglefarm4 : eta unknown try venturing to the other side of the airport and you will find the answer. Or check out this blog. http://ybbn.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/.
56 zkokq : The two MD's stored at BNE owned by CP.
57 ZK-NBT : CX has been daily to ADL for a few years now but still ops outbound via MEL. They did have 3 weekly dedicated services 2 summers back, I think they a
58 747m8te : Yes they are on their limit, several months back they had to do some additional freight services and pax charters for a few weeks so they had to cut
59 QFVHOQA : A 77W on the SYD route would be consistent with the rumours that CX want to reintroduce F to the SYD market. If you consider the low cost of acquisit
60 eaglefarm4 : Heads up reminder that Garuda resumes BNE tomorrow this time with 737-800's .A daily operation as GA720/721 eta 0710 etd 0840 .CGK-DPS-BNE.
61 vhebb : Qantas Fleet Update: B747-400: VH-OEB is now back in service after being reconfigured from 14/66/40/187 into a 14/52/32/255 config. OEB also had its F
62 koruman : QANTAS A380: 12 First, 64 Business, 35 Premium Economy, 371 Economy. AIR NZ 777-300ER: 44 Business, 44 Premium Economy, 244 Economy (of which 60 are
63 Post contains links QFVHOQA : NZ has recently stated that the new 789's won't have the W Spaceseat. Instead a new seat is being designed, leading me to believe that the NZ W produ
64 Post contains images RyanairGuru : These F frames are slated for retirement aren't they? (at least according to the latest-we've-heard 9x 744 plan) Where do they currently fly? I'm thi
65 EK413 : Interesting to see what's to become of the remaining 4 x 3 class B744 aircraft. My wild guess is sun bake in the desert. The only route I can think o
66 zkokq : I kinda like the RR birds too. The sound of those engines is one of my favorites after the GE90 I think
67 TN486 : Ditto to all of the above. Will anyone have an insight as to when the very very last pax flight will be. If so, I would be interested in receiving su
68 ZK-NBT : Ah QF11/12 is an A380. Pretty sure the only 744 route where F is sold is SYD-HKG. These 3 4 class 744s also turn up on SYD-NRT and SYD-JNB. OEB on SY
69 Post contains images EK413 : Yes, QF11-QF12 is an A380 but not when the aircraft goes u/s or utilised on the DXB route conditions of the EK/QF Alliance both carriers promise a co
70 eta unknown : FYI the flight does not originate in CGK- it's a DPS-BNE-DPS service only that will be operated by a 9 aircraft 738 subfleet (think slightly differen
71 ZK-NBT : Why would it not be broken? VH-OQD hasn't flown it seems since 13/7 when it did QF127 SYD-HKG then QF6011 HKG-MNL? All the others look to have flown
72 eaglefarm4 : True,the original plan was CGK-DPS-BNE but that was dropped.My error. Other news is that Pionair(Skyforce) has been granted Draft Interim Determinatio
73 Post contains images EK413 : "Tongue & Cheek" On a much more serious note perhaps just scheduled check. EK8413
74 ZK-NBT : Pretty sure OQD would be having not flown for that long. I wonder when/if HKG will go daily A380 soon with the reconfigs now done?!
75 EK413 : With 3 x B744's in the 14/52/32/255 configuration VH-OJL, VH-OJM, VH-OEB I doubt there are plans for the QF127/QF128 to be up gauged to a daily A380.
76 Post contains links EK413 : Around 26 people on a Qantas flight from Chile are suffering gastro and have been vomiting. A fleet of six ambulances has been sent to help. Paramedic
77 Post contains images RyanairGuru : If anyone could provide similar advice about the 737-400 then that would be appreciated
78 Post contains images A36001 : Does anyone have a update on Jetstars first 787 that was rolled out of the factory a couple weeks ago. I have checked KPAE blog but nothing there. Onl
79 Post contains links TN486 : nothing detailed, however a read of a couple of the CEO's speeches sheds some light http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/speeches
80 bwwt : Hi all. WIth the movement of QantasLink in SYD from T2 to T3 in the coming weeks I was wondering, how they are actually going to fit these flights int
81 zkokq : She entered paint a few days back. I would expect her to be rolled out in the next couple of days
82 Post contains images A36001 : Thanks... I'm kind of looking forward to seeing it! She's gonna be a looker....
83 skyhawkmatthew : That's going to be mighty interesting when they want to get an A380 in or out of 96!
84 Post contains images EK413 : Hangar 96 is my least concerns. Would be interesting to see what happens when an aircraft is in Hangar opposite 416. On a positive note its a smart m
85 Post contains images skyhawkmatthew : Sure is! Especially good for my mother who frequently travels from a regional port via Sydney to Canberra and will no longer have to change terminals
86 Post contains links and images EK413 : I hope the operators of SYD reconsider their proposal converting T1, T2, & T3 into a International / Domestic Terminal which has been scrapped. V
87 QF744ER : VA has a B737-700 based over here in Perth which has been operating Newman, Port Hedland and Karratha flights during the week. Believe it's taken over
88 qf002 : I'm a little late to this whole discussion, but in reality the A332 won't offer much than the BBJs don't already in terms of range. The BBJs can easi
89 VirginFlyer : I wasn't aware it had been scrapped, do you have a source for that? V/F
90 Post contains links EK413 : I believe VH-VBY is stored in BNE & For Sale. The plan was scrapped roughly a year ago http://www.ausbt.com.au/sydney-airpo...-for-alliance-based
91 Mr AirNZ : For Perth spotters, Air New Zealand has a 77W scheduled on this Wednesdays (7th August) NZ175/NZ176 in place of the usual 77E.
92 RyanairGuru : It escaped my notice, but this week saw the first international flight fly out of the new terminal at CBR. It was a VA 73H charter taking Brumbies sup
93 Post contains links and images EK413 : Been browsing the site and stumbled across this photo. View Large View MediumPhoto © Paul McCarthy Question: if the aircraft was delivered in 1997 an
94 RyanairGuru : Sorry, what precisely is the question? Why are the QF 767s so dated? For a start all the early build 767s (basically any pre-BSI, roughly 2000-ish) ha
95 skyhawkmatthew : I know – but it's not nearly as nice as the T3 one. I've spent quite a lot of time in both.
96 EK413 : The photo I provided is all I could find in our database but yes the question was concerning the cabin of QFs B767's vs other carriers which appear t
97 RyanairGuru : Got you now! Yep, other carriers have been more proactive in refurbishing their aircraft than QF have, including new overhead bins. I'm not sure when
98 qf002 : Cost. QF has never felt that spending the money has been a worthwhile investment, and they were probably right once the A330s had started arriving. I
99 IndianicWorld : Its hard to see what they can do with SYD to make it as efficient as possible. Combining terminals by alliance had its merits, as this should dictate
100 skyhawkmatthew : Probably also combined with the fact that they would all have been retired years ago if the 787 had been on time – not worth spending millions on a
101 EK413 : I could be wrong but I believe the B763 refurbishment program cost $1million per an aircraft. Don't quote me though, all in all the product offering
102 zkokq : Hi there. I dont think you will get Bravo Yankee. She is on limited flight time/hours until she departs VA and will only operate flights to from BNE.
103 Post contains images EK413 : She's tucked away & doesn't see any activity by the looks of it https://www.facebook.com/YBBNspotter EK8413
104 SYDSpotter : Remind me again, who was going to based where? VA at the Intl Terminal and QF at the Domestic? From an ops perspective, would this cause issues as th
105 zkokq : And she wont for much longer. I was told the lessor wants her to have the least amount of hours and cycles on her as they can.
106 EK413 : QF & Oneworld was going to operate from T2 & T3. VA & all remaining Alliances from T1. EK8413
107 QF744ER : I believe -VBY and -VBZ are owned by VA so not leased.
108 Post contains links and images zkokq : Are you sure? Bit of info about my girl http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-737/vh-vby/vhvby.html[Edited 2013-08-04 04:57:41]
109 Post contains links VirginFlyer : Regarding VH-VBY, the aircraft register may help there: http://casa-query.funnelback.com/sea...n=casa_aircraft_register&query=VBY Looks like it is
110 EK413 : I tried hunting down the video but its no longer available for obvious reasons (no longer going ahead). EK8413
111 Post contains links QFVHOQA : VA has announced to the ASX a profit downgrade. They now expect a statutory loss for FY2013, mainly due to the costs of acquiring XR & TT and the
112 tullamarine : The domestic economy is slowing rapidly and this is feeding through to the domestic airlines' performance at the same time both have ramped up capaci
113 davidByrne : I realise this may be splitting hairs, but are the airlines really increasing their fuel surcharges, or are they increaing their fares? Unless they i
114 mariner : I think we're already there and have been for some time. It is a duopoly. mariner
115 QFVHOQA : It doesn't really matter either way, as with all-inclusive pricing mandatory in Australia, it's not quoted separately. The only difference would be f
116 qf002 : Plus the fact that every dollar that they make in foreign currently is now worth more in AUD (the value of a fare sold in USD has dropped by 20% over
117 QF744ER : ZK-OKO at this stage.
118 Post contains links and images RyanairGuru : Yes and no. On the one hand the capacity war is going to trash the yields for both carriers. On the other, a lot of VA's issues are either "one off"
119 smi0006 : Australian business traveler is reporting the following today, with news of dedicated EY lounges in SYD and MEL: 'Etihad Airways is expanding its ambi
120 jetfuel : Just paid $1400 in fuel surcharges/fees for a "free" ticket on an airline with a roo. Funny enough they refused/cant give me a breakdown of what the f
121 RyanairGuru : That would be my guess as well. There is a similar question-mark over where the SkyTeam lounge is going to go at SYD, and rumour has it that it will
122 IndianicWorld : Interesting. I know they have talked about it, but with the WA market cooling, maybe its not a great time to attempt this.It is the most exposed mark
123 QFVHOQA : Interesting that EY will up MEL to A380 in addition to extra frequency. That's quite the increase from a daily A346. With the SYD flight getting A380
124 ben175 : Is this a one-off? Anyone know the reason? Perhaps they are trialing the product on the route (wishful thinking, I know.) Also, a friend of mine who
125 IndianicWorld : That would be a very short stay. I couldn't see the point in PER for PR though, as it doesn't seem to be that big of a market for MNL flights, so you
126 QF744ER : -VBZ's 3 week in WA operating regional routes has come to an end, it flew back to Melbourne last night.
127 Post contains images EK413 : Even though it was expected this is welcoming news EK8413
128 QF175 : It was rumored earlier (refer abovememtioned posts) that Philippine Airlines was going to suspend flights to Perth. Well according to Airlineroute, Ph
129 eta unknown : PR to PER... perhaps the exercise was designed to keep somebody out.
130 ben175 : I knew from day one PER-DRW-MNL wouldn't work, especially at 4 x weekly. Would have been nice to see them drop to 1-2 x weekly before cutting it thoug
131 IndianicWorld : I thought I read those plans were from 2017. After what happened at NBO yesterday they may have other issues to deal with for a while to come. Even M
132 Post contains links EK413 : FIRST responders to the massive airport fire that gutted the arrival hall at Nairobi's main airport apparently looted electronics, a bank and an ATM.
133 Post contains links ZuluAlpha : A man has died at BNE international terminal after falling off from the elevators (I'm guessing from the departures level to the immigration hall?). h
134 TruemanQLD : Departures is level 4 and arrivals is level 2 but escalators go down to level 1 (I was there this morning and area was still closed off), so not sure
135 Post contains links and images EK413 : Here she is people JQ's 1st B787 LN123 ZA215 VH-VKA JETSTAR VH-VKA Boeing 787 by moonm, on Flickr JETSTAR VH-VKA Boeing 787 by moonm, on Flickr EK8413
136 bwwt : Yep, the news says he fell three floors, so sounds like he fell from checkin to level 1.
137 koruman : I heard that he was a deportee, haven't seen any confirmation, but its a bit of a "publish half the story" week, as evidenced by those poor British gi
138 TruemanQLD : Beautiful! Cant wait to see them at OOL!
139 Post contains images A36001 : Ooooo hello hello hello.... It's finally here! And might I say looking every bit as good as a 787 can possibly look! Now we wait for the Qantas ones,
140 TruemanQLD : A JQ and VA plane have collided at MEL. Seems not too serious but some bad damage to the two planes.
141 Post contains links pugsley : Another photo of the damage to the JQ plane is on ninemsn: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...lanes-collide-at-melbourne-airport The body looks g
142 zkokq : Not sure on the white engines. Will work for QF though!
143 qf002 : I didn't see anything a month ago, but it's probably not located directly off the departures level and I wasn't actively looking. Damn, I was really
144 Post contains images EK413 : Yes she's finally here!!! I've been tracking her movement & knew she would've made an appearance this week It certainly rocks in the JQ color sch
145 Post contains links and images EK413 : Rollout photos Our first Boeing 787 in its Jetstar livery by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr Our first Boeing 787 in its Jetstar livery by Jetstar Airways,
146 Post contains images zkojq : Do we know who her new operator is planned to be? I know we had a similar discussion a few threads back, though that deal fell through. Don't want to
147 Post contains images EK413 : Nor do we want to scare off passengers with the lack of 'Dreamliner' titles OR fuel saving measure EK8413
148 Post contains links Boof : I came across the below link that to me suggests there is a chance that both the QF and QLink HBA services are going back to all jet operated by Cobha
149 Post contains images EK413 : The J/C loads on the HBA services are usually poor so wouldn't surprise me if we see the reconfigured 125Y/C B717's on East coast EK8413
150 zkokq : Not sure, but I heard the asking price was out of control for both 2x 737's
151 zkokq : Does anyone have an idea which 747 will operate QF15 tomorrow? Thanks a heap
152 sydscott : I see from the QF schedule that for the Christmas/New Year/School Holiday period this year they are swapping the 744 operating SYD-SIN onto SYD-BKK wh
153 Post contains links and images QF175 : Here's an article in today's TravelWeekly and the success of Hawaiian Airlines' Brisbane service. The airline is reporting good load factors and "enco
154 QFVHOQA : IMO it's a better use of capacity over the holiday period. SIN would be less of a school holiday destination compared to BKK, and ever since SIN-FRA
155 RyanairGuru : That doesn't sound like a promising configuration for QF to make money! With high fares during the holiday period they can probably break even in Dec
156 sydscott : That's what I would have thought but then the key question is why keep the 744 on SYD-SIN at all? I thought the intention was to make SYD-SIN double
157 EK413 : Interesting move considering sametime last year QF operated 2 x A330 services on the SYD-BKK-SYD service due to no B744 crew based in BKK. EK8413
158 QFVHOQA : Maybe the 744 remains on SYD-SIN to keep W in the market? It's definitely something they can offer that SQ doesn't. While that's true for the Skybed
159 Post contains links tayser : QF Group Training facility in Airport West (opposite Essendon Airport) to expand http://www.theage.com.au/business/10...remains-secret-20130813-2rtew.
160 QantasAirways : I have a question about QF flights to MNL for anyone who might be able to help. I noticed there is a seasonal direct flight from BNE to MNL. It's show
161 RyanairGuru : It's the standard QF "regional" product, which means hot lunch outbound and hot dinner inbound, and "snack" or continental breakfast (croissant etc)
162 Post contains images QantasAirways : That was a most helpful response, thanks RyanairGuru! Despite my username, I haven't really kept up to date with the QF regional product recently (te
163 faz777 : Given the upcoming T2 intl. upgrade in MEL which will fill in alot of gaps, i think there might be some more lounges on their way, doubtful any would
164 6thfreedom : Even if they cancelled closer to the date, you would no doubt be reaccomodated via Sydney on an A330. backtrack, but OK i suppose. the other option i
165 RyanairGuru : If QF cancel it then they have to rebook you free of charge - presumably via SYD. While SYD isn't the most convenient transfer, it wouldn't be the en
166 eaglefarm4 : I believe QF19/20 has gone for good.The runway works commenced in late June and it was cancelled.It was not seasonal it was year round, and was a A330
167 QantasAirways : Thanks guys. Do you think they would still re-route via Sydney on the same dates though? I'm keen to try QF international to MNL after not having flo
168 RyanairGuru : Yes, the BNE flight is merely a stop-over on the SYD-MNL flight, so if they would definitely be operating QF19/20 that day, the question is whether i
169 qf002 : Were these QFLink or JQ services (or both at different points)? I flew SYD-LST in late-2004 (or it might have been March 2005) on a 717 and could hav
170 eaglefarm4 : BNE is up to 10 different aircraft from Garuda. PK-GFD / GFM / GFQ / GFR / GFS / GFT - GMS / GMU / GMV / GMW Cheers.
171 DeltaB717 : I've flown QantasLink to/from Launceston on a B717, my first flight on the type. Can't remember when exactly that was but it was before the B717s went
172 eta unknown : There are 9 aircraft that are more fuel efficient than the others. Sometimes other aircraft are subbed (logo jet). My understanding is the once weekl
173 Post contains links Andrensn : Qantas launches new PER-AKL service http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10912349 Operated by a330 aircraft twice week
174 Post contains links sydscott : http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...outes/story-e6frg95x-1226697028656 Along with twice weekly PER-AKL there is also a 7th BNE-LAX and a 5th weekly
175 TN486 : QF Link did fly the 717 to both HBA and LST before the ac were transferred to JQ. I flew the last HBA - MEL flight on such an ac the day prior to JQ
176 Post contains links sydscott : QF have also announced the joint Tasman schedule and changed a number of flight times and flight numbers. This means that EK and QF flights across the
177 ZuluAlpha : If this speculation is accurate, I can see why it won't continue, with the ramping up of the BNE HKG QF 97/98 rotation, it would easily meet those re
178 Post contains links TN486 : For those interested, check out www.aussieairliners.org, and scan through the histories and photos of the 717s. I suspect the ac I flew on was VQB, l
179 QFVHOQA : I seem to recall that when the A380 started on SYD-HKG that it was 5 weekly WED-SUN, but was dropped on Wednesdays due to the reconfiguration of the
180 IndianicWorld : I could see VA upgrading frequency on another route like MEL-LAX, as the SYD-AUH services should be able to be handled by EY very easily in the futur
181 qf002 : That article is an embarrassment -- apparently QF wants to increase the "unitisation" of their "A300" fleet, has put "14,00" staff through training,
182 AA7295 : Do we know when the BNE-LAX flights will be upped to daily?
183 Post contains links QF175 : 2 December according to the Qantas media release here
184 EK413 : I believe they've left room for scheduled maintenance during aircraft down times that's why it's not daily A380 services. EK8413
185 vhebb : Don't forget the early build QF A380s need to have the wing cracks repaired which will take some time and prevent SYD-HKG going daily A380.
186 VH-BZF : I've heard that in 2014 that QF may replace some of the QF107/108 B744 services with A380's ex Sydney/Lax although not sure how this will impact the
187 EK413 : When the QF107/108 is upgauged to an A380 the QF11/12 is cancelled. The QF15/16 service will become daily which will operate the LAX-JFK tag. EK8413
188 Post contains links and images QF175 : Australian Aviation Thread # 77 is now up and running
189 qf002 : I guess so, though I'm still not convinced it's an operational thing. There can't be that many line maintenance issues that require more than 12 but
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