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When Is The 787-9 First Flight?  
User currently offlinehannahpa From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 125 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 12272 times:
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Did a search, couldn't find answer. Apologies if it has already posted. I know that it is supposed to be late this year, but does anyone know exactly WHEN it is scheduled for???

Thanks in advance....

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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2080 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12222 times:

Should be either next month or early September If I remember correctly.


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User currently offlineSooner787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11717 times:

Any idea when they'll roll her out of the paint shop?

User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3226 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11539 times:

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 2):
Any idea when they'll roll her out of the paint shop?

It went into the paint hangar on the 18th and usually takes about a week. This is a new paint job and a new aircraft size so it may take a little longer. In other words: late this week or early next week.

tortugamon


User currently offlinezkncj From New Zealand, joined Nov 2005, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 11203 times:

Its first passengers flight will be June 2014, and will likely be one of the following NZ101 AKL-SYD / NZ123 AKL-MEL / NZ136 AKL-BNE

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6950 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 10821 times:

So is this the start of the 789 first flight thread   

Are they coating it in that livery shown on the 7810 models at PAS13, or the dreamliner livery on the 788?



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2080 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10671 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 11):
Are they coating it in that livery shown on the 7810 models at PAS13, or the dreamliner livery on the 788?

From what I understand, it should be painted like the first 787 ZA001. The only difference should be the tail withe the 9 on it.

[Edited 2013-07-24 03:55:45]


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User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1462 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10607 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 11):
Are they coating it in that livery shown on the 7810 models at PAS13, or the dreamliner livery on the 788?

The big '9' was already on the tail so I expect it will be like the livery shown at PAS13:



146,318/19/20/21,AB6,332,343,345,388,722,732/3/4/5/G/8,9,742,74E,744,752,762,763,772,77E,773,77W,AT3,ATP,E90,F50/70,M11,
User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10383 times:

From what I heard and read, the 787-9 is doing quite well so far and seems to be ahead of the schedule. I would not surprised if we already see the first flight in the next 3-4 weeks instead end of August or early September.

User currently offlineAtlflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7280 times:

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 13):

That is one beautiful airplane!


User currently offlinehannahpa From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6472 times:
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If I am not mistaken, the GenX engine for the -9 is about 75,000 lbs of thrust, Right???

User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3226 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (9 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6353 times:

Quoting hannahpa (Reply 28):
If I am not mistaken, the GenX engine for the -9 is about 75,000 lbs of thrust, Right???

I believe the Trent 1000 Package C (what is currently hanging from ZB001's wings) is rated at 74,000. Wiki says 71k.   Trent Ten (787-10) is supposed to be 76k with the capability to go to 78k. I assume GEnx is similar in all accounts.

http://www.rolls-royce.com/news/pres...ases/2012/120508_new_milestone.jsp

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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29700 posts, RR: 84
Reply 12, posted (9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5929 times:
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Quoting hannahpa (Reply 28):
If I am not mistaken, the GenX engine for the -9 is about 75,000 lbs of thrust, Right???

Per the EASA TCDS, GE offers a couple of engines for the 787-9 (thrust figures are maximum continuous):

GEnx1B74/P2 at ~68,500 pounds of thrust
GEnx1B75/P2 at ~68,800 pounds of thrust
GEnx1B78/P2 at ~68,500 pounds of thrust



Quoting tortugamon (Reply 29):
I believe the Trent 1000 Package C (what is currently hanging from ZB001's wings) is rated at 74,000.

Per the FAA Trent 1000 TCDS (thrust figures are maximum continuous):

Trent 1000-C at 69,523 lbs thrust
Trent 1000-D at 69,523 lbs thrust
Trent 1000-G at 64,722 lbs thrust

The EASA TCDS also shows a Trent 1000-Z at 69,523 lbs thrust

[Edited 2013-07-24 12:35:15]

User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3226 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5591 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 30):
Per the FAA Trent 1000 TCDS (thrust figures are maximum continuous):
Trent 1000-C at 69,523 lbs thrust

So when RR says: "The Trent 1000 Package C programme will provide 74,000lb thrust for the 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft," this is a maximum thrust for TO and its really the 69.5k figure for cruise? That is a larger difference than I expected. I always thought the 74k figure was 'continuous' and there is a couple thousand available for temporary burst for hot/high if necessary/purchased.

tortugamon


User currently offlinedynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 851 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (9 months 4 days ago) and read 5437 times:

Quoting planeadmirer (Reply 21):
Yes and no, unfortunately. Yes to the current schedule. No to the original schedule and probably a couple of revisions of the original schedule.

787-9 development has been way more disciplined than -8. The last schedule slide was nearly 3 years ago due to having to wait on flight test data. The release of engineering data was essentially on time - we didn't miss a single one of our hundreds of releases, and from what I hear this was typical of the program as a whole.


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18713 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (9 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4854 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 30):
GEnx1B74/P2 at ~68,500 pounds of thrust
GEnx1B75/P2 at ~68,800 pounds of thrust
GEnx1B78/P2 at ~68,500 pounds of thrust
Quoting Stitch (Reply 30):
Trent 1000-C at 69,523 lbs thrust
Trent 1000-D at 69,523 lbs thrust
Trent 1000-G at 64,722 lbs thrust

The GEnX -74 and -78 offer the same thrust. The Trent -C and -D offer the same thrust. What is the difference between such models, then?


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29700 posts, RR: 84
Reply 16, posted (9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4308 times:
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Quoting tortugamon (Reply 31):
So when RR says: "The Trent 1000 Package C programme will provide 74,000lb thrust for the 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft," this is a maximum thrust for TO and its really the 69.5k figure for cruise?

Yes. TO thrust (5 minute limit) for the C and D are 74,511 pounds and 77,826 for the Z.


Quoting DocLightning (Reply 33):
The GEnX -74 and -78 offer the same thrust. The Trent -C and -D offer the same thrust. What is the difference between such models, then?

Per the EASA TCDS, each RR model has it's own Drawing Instruction Sheet that defines the build standard, so it might reflect different PiPs?

Per the EASA TCDS, GE appears to append a Px at the end of the GEnx1B depending on the PIP. So a GEnx-1B64 is the original engine. The GEnx-1B64/P1 includes PiP1 and the GEnx1B64/P2 includes PiP2.

The GEnx-2B for the 747-8 family shows a GEnx-2B67 and a GEnx-2B67B. The engine entered service on the 747 with the features incorporated in the GEnx-1B PiP1 so I don't know if GEnx-2B67B is the upcoming PiP2 engine or not.


User currently offlineKC135R From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 725 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

And here is the first image of the painted 787-9:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboeingcompany/9375872988/ [/url]

[Edited 2013-07-26 22:07:32]

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6950 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (9 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

Damn, looks spiffy   


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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3226 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

That will work. This close up view makes it look longer than the other pictures/video. The front landing gear looks longer than on the 788. I assume it is not higher off the ground but it sure does look like it. Also, the angle of the cockpit fuse looks more pronounced/steep then on the 788 but I assume that has not changed. Looks lean and mean.


tortugamon


User currently offlinezkncj From New Zealand, joined Nov 2005, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

Quoting KC135R (Reply 17):
And here is the first image of the painted 787-9:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theboeingcompany/9375872988/ [/url]

All that paint for less than 12 months is crazy, unless NZ is planning to operate it in the dreamliner colours


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3226 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Quoting zkncj (Reply 20):

This will not be the first 787 delivered to Air New Zealand. That will come later in the year and I am not sure its livery during flight testing has been decided.

tortugamon


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (9 months 17 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Quoting Ronaldo747 (Reply 8):
I would not surprised if we already see the first flight in the next 3-4 weeks instead end of August or early September.

Certainly likely to be no later than early September, provided the system checks and ground tests go smoothly. Airbus probably just set a 'world record' by getting the A350 flying within five weeks of rollout, and succeeded in getting in that demo flight over Paris. I don't expect that Boeing will see any need to better that, but they certainly won't want to be too far behind.



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