raffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1694 posts, RR: 4 Posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4577 times:
I was surprised to learn that JAT was returning to Beirut after quite a number of years away.
I was a regular fliers of their's up until 2001, transiting at Belgrade before continuing onto London.
Sometimes the flight would depart Beirut only to land in Damascus before picking up more passengers.
JoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2212 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4092 times:
Quoting OC2DC (Reply 1):
Where are they going to get the aircraft for all this new flying and when? I have heard they are getting A319s but that has been said for years. Any confirmation on that yet?
Can JATs current aircraft fly all the way to AUH? Seems a bit far for a 733...
EY plans to completely restructure JU and acquire a new fleet of A319s (apparently in the coming months) and AUH will not be a problem for this type, as is evident with EYs daily AUH-BEG service. So AUH will go double daily!
connector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 930 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3359 times:
Well, as far as I know JAT is currently flying to Bucharest OTP, code sharing on TAROM metal ATR42-500. So Bucharest shouldn't be considered a new destination for JAT. The Bucharest to Belgrade route has been operated by Tarom for about two years?
raffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1694 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2888 times:
Beirut is a relaunch but I am not sure that all of the other destinations have been served before at some point.
Exciting times for the airline. Wonder if their low cost approach will change with the backing of an well to do investor such as Etihad.
Why is JAT starting AUH flights as the loadfactor on the EY flights are below 40 to 50%?
EY is flying 40 to 50 pax on average per flight on AUH-BEG-AUH, some flights even with just 20 to 25 pax...
So what's the point to start a second daily flight on this route by JU?
JoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2212 posts, RR: 9 Reply 15, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2598 times:
Quoting flyingfool (Reply 13): Why is JAT starting AUH flights as the loadfactor on the EY flights are below 40 to 50%?
AUH-BEG was launched a month ago, and it takes time for a route to start ''living''. I remember when JU launched DXB in 2004 - twice weekly, it had miserable LF initially, something like 20 pax. But, after 6-8 months LF improved drastically and within a year, flights went to six weekly with very healthy load factors, the highest I believe in JUs network at the time.
Considering JU's potential strategic tie-up with EY, double daily hub to hub sounds reasonable and I'm sure time will come when at least EY will deploy A332s on the route on certain days at least. Their strategy is evidently to give QR, FZ, TK and even LH to a certain extent, a hard time. My wild guess is, they will probably win sooner rather than later.
Departure: 09:20 Belgrade, Serbia - Belgrade, terminal 2
Arrival: 11:40 Bucharest, Romania - Henri Coanda
Airline: Jat Airways JU8154 e
Aircraft: Aerospatiale/Alenia ATR42-500 Operated by TAROM
Quoting OA260 (Reply 14): Quoting connector4you (Reply 9):Can you call Bucharest a "relaunch" where as the route is up and running since Dec 07, 2009 ?
And even before then.
yes we know that, its being relaunched as in operated by JAT itself, any airline that returns to a market with its own service in addition to a c/s, is a relaunch or resumption of its own operation on that route.