SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8585 posts, RR: 5 Posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9186 times:
The first 777-300ER with the updated First Class product will enter service tomorrow. The First Class refresh project will be completed by Q3 2014. CX's 747-400s will not receive the updated First product.
RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2739 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8817 times:
Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter): The First Class refresh project will be completed by Q3 2014. CX's 747-400s will not receive the updated First product.
This seems like a constantly ongoing process in the Pacific / Asia market. One airline or another is trying to beat out the latest enhancements before they come out, these are the passengers airlines are looking to build long term relationships with.
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CXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2524 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8590 times:
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Quoting wingman (Reply 2): Ummm, that's probably the classiest F class product I've seen in a while.
I agree with that. Not much has changed from the previous F cabin, but those little changes in upholstery and trim makes a huge difference in the overall look of the product. It looks a lot more modern and classier than what's currently on offer in F, despite it being essentially the same seat.
Quoting AT (Reply 3): I assume this will only be on the 777-300ERs?
From the article:
Quote: The First Class cabins in Cathay Pacific’s Boeing 747-400 aircraft are not included in the upgrade project as the fleet is in the process of being retired.
777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8065 times:
Quoting wingman (Reply 2): Ummm, that's probably the classiest F class product I've seen in a while. It looks pretty sweet. Have to laugh at those FAs though, they look like kindergartners compared to the US legacies.
Agreed! I was working the LAX-NRT flight last week and I was simply stunned at how old the FA/s were. Like, can she lift that pax bag?? eh..... I was relieved to see much younger ladies (and gentlemen) in our network on both sides shortly after!
"Distinctive" compared to Latin American carriers but only marginally competitive against European / Asian carriers. If not for corporate contracts and system wide upgrades and convenience of nonstop on certain routes, I'm surprised for anyone picking AA F over BA / JL / CX F.
spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3405 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7924 times:
It looks nice, but I'm not sure about the actual amount of space they give you. It looks a little cramped for a modern international first class seat ("cramped" of course being a relative term - I am speaking in comparison with other international first class, not what most of us are used to).
It looks like Cathay's using a herringbone pattern, whereas most other Asian airlines seem to save that for business class these days (or use staggered instead of herringbone) and give first class passengers the full length and width of the "suite" box.
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wingman From St. Vincent and the Grenadines, joined May 1999, 2079 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7564 times:
I mean that they're under 70. On primo long haul routes, especially in first class or business, the average age of an FA on US legacy carriers is 93.1 years. I've met some working grandmas that started out on Stratoliners and Connies. Nothing 16 minis of Chivas can't cure though, at least after you remove your glasses and don the sleeping mask.
I see where you're coming from, but I disagree. Those seats have almost no privacy, which is one of the things I want in a F seat. The lengths are comparable, but the width of that TAM seat doesn't even come close to comparing to CX.
It's new. It's chic. And for some people it's great, but I want the privacy that's afforded by other designs.
Cathay is the epitome of comfort, function, and privacy.
eljas From Singapore, joined Mar 2013, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3875 times:
I had the pleasure of flying CX F in a 747 earlier this year (on BA miles) and was thoroughly impressed with both the hard and soft products. Way ahead of BA (only other F class I've ever flown, which is very impressive and pleasant in it's own right). This refresh looks like basically new upholstery and finishing, everything else looks pretty much the same, which is good, they still have a winning formula up there with the best.
Quoting a380787 (Reply 7): These days you need a full cube (and maybe door) to classify as trend-setting in F : EK, SQ, OZ, EY etc
On the subject of doors and an enclosed personal "suite" as seen in SQ, EK etc, I don't feel this is necessary and seems far too extravagant (but then what else do you expect from EK?). I personally like to feel like I'm still on a plane rather than shut up in my own box. The CX seats, and to a lesser extent those on BA, offer a high level of privacy and comfort, way over and above the J seats on the same aircraft, and yet are also sufficiently open to be able to chat to other passengers and flight attendants if you so desire. The attendants in CX first are charming and I had a long conversation with the purser about her job and my holiday, she gave me tips on what to do in Hong Kong. I can't help but feel that this level of service would be lost if you shut yourself away in a suite.
IMHO, UA and AA's are appropriate given their overall position in the market. United's GF is a glorified J and I have always felt a very nice glorification! The question is does UA first generally cost the same as Cathay or Singapore First? If so...why, except for the generous miles you'd get from UA, would one choose United F?
My company and clients have SOMETIMES paid for UA First under the company contract...I can't imagine them paying for Cathay, Singapore or Swiss! (They do cost more than UA or AA?- right?)
Or do their corp contacts allow for accessible fees to their "big box" F suites?
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: Hahahaha... It would be nice to see a 77H operating HKG-SYD that's for sure!
: So, which was the lucky route that got that bird?
: Looks like London... Following a short haul flight yesterday.. Rego of this refurbished plane is B-KPR. Currently en-route to LHR CX253.
: Are there really no overhead bins any more in CX F? Or, is that just a photo of a mockup that doesn't have them? http://www.cathaypacific.com/content.
: European and UA airlines do not go for all the glitz the Asian and Middle East airline sometimes do. Two different schools of thought, one is not bet
: That is correct. Each suite in F has a personal closet which can be used to store personal items.
: actually that closet is barely enough for shoes and a coat your roller carry-on has to go below the ottoman