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Alaska's Common Sense Approach  
User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1114 times:

Alaska Airlines has opted not to copycat the other full-service U.S. majors making arbitrary 20% reductions in capacity and workforce. Instead, AS will keep its options open by taking a wait-and-see approach to determine whether cuts will be needed and, if so, to what extent. AS President Bill Ayer has stated that layoffs will occur "only as a last resort." Also, a number of alternatives to possible furloughs are being weighed by management and union representatives.

This common-sense approach positions Alaska to gain customers forfeited by other airlines in their knee-jerk haste to slash capacity and jobs in response to what will, IMO, be a very short-lived (weeks rather than months), albeit precipitous, decline in demand for air travel following an aviation disaster of unparalled magnitude,

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User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

I'm not in the airline industry but I'd like
to suggest an alternative. Instead off
laying off 20% of the work force, why
not temporarily scale down wages 20%?

Nobody goes into the unemployment line
and once things get back to normal,
bring the wages back up.

My $.02's worth...


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16285 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1038 times:

Good for AS! This 20% cut that other US carriers are implementing seems to be an arbitrary % and copy-cat in nature.

Would seem that carriers would reduce capacity on a route-by-route basis rather than applying an arbitrary 20% cut.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineTeej13 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1031 times:

A 20% pay cut by everyone, although the idea that seems to make the most sense, isn't feasible, as a job itself requires all sorts of costs, regardless of the pay.. I'm not saying I like it, that's the way labour laws are. A shame, really. I'd take a pay cut to keep my job if it was in jeopardy!

User currently offlineSouthRebels From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1012 times:

Not to mention, as mean as it may sound, with cutting 20% of the jobs, you only make 20% of the people unhappy. With everyone taking 20% off their pay you make 100% of the people unhappy.

User currently offlineExusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 975 times:

Alaska has the good fortune of having limited exposure to the east coast.

Nobody in NYC feels like taking a vacation right now, nor will they likely want to in the immediate future.

AS also has the good fortune of not having any ops out of DCA.

US, DL, AA, UA and CO all had hourly service to their major hubs as well as hourly Shuttle flights to NYC and or BOS. The loss of this high yield market is devastating to many of the carriers, more do to US than any other.

A 20% reduction in service in some markets are appropriate. CO and DL both offered hourly flights between EWR and ATL. All of these planes are flying around nearly empty.

A reduction in international routes as the slow winter period dawns on Europe and the US. By the way, would you want to fly to the Middle East right about now?

Right now the industry is trying to stay afloat. Anything that wasn't making money or breaking even has gotta' go.

Why have 100% of your Spetember 10th workforce on the payroll, if there is nothing for 15 - 20% of them to do with all of these planes parked?

Thanksgiving and Christmas are going to be a make or break for many of the carriers.

As Bob Crandall once said, "This is a dirty, rotten business." But by God, it gets in your blood and you can't get it out.

Parents: Advice to you for your children, Never ever ever bring them into a cockpit of an airplane. That's all they'll ever want to do - sit in that little room with all of those switches and lights. You'll ruin that kid for life!


User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 966 times:

If you cut payroll for everyone by 20% I think you'll be cutting some people on the lower end of the pay scale down to a level where they can't afford to live. It's one thing to want to sacrifice for your company, but another if you can't support your family. For many, it is simply a better option to be laid off, collect unemployment and hopefully find another job that pays just as well (even if it may not be as rewarding personally).

User currently offlineAcvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 955 times:

AS has DCA-SEA that they just started and now is on indefinate hold. Nuff said.. Get it right folks.


User currently offlineEzra From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 943 times:

That's because all carriers' DCA service is suspended pending the airport's reopening.

User currently offlineAddi375 From France, joined Jun 2001, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 915 times:

If 9/11 didnt happen, we wouldnt see any 20% cut in service or employee #.

just my 2cents.
Besides, there are a lot of senior mammas and pappas out there who would be retiring soon anyhow.



Walmart prices with Bloomies service...........
User currently offlineBooyala From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 886 times:

"If 9/11 didnt happen, we wouldnt see any 20% cut in service or employee"


No kidding. You're a smart one....


User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 867 times:

Alaska DID cut their schedules by 15%.
They have not announced layoffs thus far.


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