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PIT Update Thread 27  
User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 28379 times:

The previous thread is well over 200 replies
PIT Update Thread 26 (by PITrules Apr 18 2013 in Civil Aviation)

To start #27, here is the 1985 annual report from the old Allegheny County Dept of Aviation. It was quite a year for PIT, as they gained 4 new airlines, two of which were foreign. These days we are lucky to get one new airline every four years!

http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu162/JDawgphoto/SCAN0001-4.jpg
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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 28405 times:

"Republic Airways expands Pittsburgh base"

"The crew base and maintenance facility has nearly doubled in the last year as Republic has taken on United Airlines (NYSE: UAL) Bombardier Q400 operations, going from about 250 to its present 500

"We think, at Pittsburgh, our maintenance presence will grow by another 50 percent,"

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburg...ands-pittsburgh-base.html?page=all



This is a good read for those that are following the mineral contracts at PIT:
http://www.ogj.com/articles/print/vo...dfq-provides-lessons-on-shale.html



FLYi
User currently offlineUSFlyer26 From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 27952 times:

An article and some good pictures of the inaugural American Eagle E175 flight from PIT-ORD.

Article: PIT_Welcomes_New_Aircraft_and_Flights_From_American_Airlines?utm_source=August+7%2C+2013&utm_campaign=4-18+news&utm_medium=socialshare" target="_blank">http://www.flypittsburgh.com/PIT_Wel...n=4-18+news&utm_medium=socialshare

Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitairport/sets/72157634942224619/


User currently offlineUSFlyer26 From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 27937 times:

Crap...bad link to the article above. My bad.

http://www.flypittsburgh.com/PIT_Wel...and_Flights_From_American_Airlines


User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 27887 times:

I wonder if they'll consider other markets besides ORD. I wonder if MIA is on YX's radar. I'd like to see something other than 50-seaters on PIT-MIA


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User currently offlinethreeifbyair From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 27849 times:

I hope the extra capacity on PIT-ORD will make AA more competitive to the West (SEA, in particular). UA had the best fares for the past 3 trips I've bought and I already have another UA trip booked later this year. Notably, UA is usually running larger planes (A319/320, 738, or E170) on PIT-ORD/DEN, although I have the misfortune of being on an E145 to DEN on my next trip.

When AA has been competitive, it is usually only inefficient DFW connections to SEA. WN and DL are barely trying to compete.

At least for one potential trip in October, AA is matching UA and even DL at just under $400, so maybe the new E75s are helping.


User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1602 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 27846 times:

The latest OAG thread has AA reducing PIT-DFW to 3 daily. Curious given their recent increase from 4 to 5 daily. Makes one wonder if this will correspond with a mainline flight somewhere else, perhaps MIA. I believe the AA Eagle contract (and thus restrictions on mainline flying) is still in place until the merger officially closes.

Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 5):
I have the misfortune of being on an E145 to DEN on my next trip.

That is just awful.


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 27842 times:

Quoting N670UW (Reply 6):
The latest OAG thread has AA reducing PIT-DFW to 3 daily. Curious given their recent increase from 4 to 5 daily. Makes one wonder if this will correspond with a mainline flight somewhere else, perhaps MIA. I believe the AA Eagle contract (and thus restrictions on mainline flying) is still in place until the merger officially closes.

PITLAX covers the loss of the DFW frequency. Dropping from four to three is a seasonal adjustment. I see no changes for MIA for awhile from here. AA has much bigger issues to fix here than equipment size to MIA.



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User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1602 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 27803 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 7):
Dropping from four to three is a seasonal adjustment.

Dropping capacity by 40% from summer to winter is a seasonal adjustment? OK. AA ran four daily MD-80's last winter. With the general traffic growth and in particulary energy industry traffic I don't demand and yield issues being the reason here. But I don't work in the AA route planning department.

It will be interesting once these AA Eagle mainline cap issues are resolved post-merger.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 27781 times:

Apologies for the missing pics at the beginning of the thread. Looks like photobucket clamped down on their free bandwidth. Good news is allowable bandwidth is reset every month, so those pics and previous ones should be back online around the 15th.

Quoting N670UW (Reply 6):
The latest OAG thread has AA reducing PIT-DFW to 3 daily.
Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 7):

PITLAX covers the loss of the DFW frequency.
Quoting N670UW (Reply 8):
Dropping capacity by 40% from summer to winter is a seasonal adjustment? OK. AA ran four daily MD-80's last winter. With the general traffic growth and in particulary energy industry traffic I don't demand and yield issues being the reason here.

I enjoy Enilria's OAG threads as much as anyone, but I've learned to take much of it with a grain of salt, one reason being "filing errors".

AA's website still shows 4x daily into next year. I guess it's possible they may indeed reduce by another flight, but I'll believe it when it's reflected by www.aa.com



FLYi
User currently offlinetarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 27770 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 4):
I wonder if they'll consider other markets besides ORD. I wonder if MIA is on YX's radar. I'd like to see something other than 50-seaters on PIT-MIA

I would too. There are probably a lot of people who currently fly on US to MIA via CLT. Most of the loyal US customers here will probably switch to the NEW American post merger.



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 27550 times:

anyone know anything about the republic crew base here? how big is it and why did it stay post hub?


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User currently offlinekubus From Poland, joined Dec 2005, 180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 27324 times:

So DL is downgrading LGA flights. After Labor Day holiday it is going to be only 5x CR7 and 1xCR9's. Last departure out of LGA is 6:20P instead of 7:58P. No more MD88 or E175s. I guess I'll switch back to US or try out United and Q400's out of EWR. The 6:20P is the killer for me
Way to mess up a good thing DL!


User currently offlinepit From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 27259 times:

Quoting kubus (Reply 12):
So DL is downgrading LGA flights. After Labor Day holiday it is going to be only 5x CR7 and 1xCR9's. Last departure out of LGA is 6:20P instead of 7:58P.

I believe that JFK is still 4 daily correct?

Anyone know when PIT-CDG ends. That will also end the 757 on PIT-JFK.


I took American Eagle into JFK yesterday. The flight crew was MIA based and there were 5 or 6 through customers on board that came from MIA. Is this flight bookable as a through flight?


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 27111 times:

Quoting kubus (Reply 12):
So DL is downgrading LGA flights. After Labor Day holiday it is going to be only 5x CR7 and 1xCR9's. Last departure out of LGA is 6:20P instead of 7:58P. No more MD88 or E175s. I guess I'll switch back to US or try out United and Q400's out of EWR. The 6:20P is the killer for me
Way to mess up a good thing DL!

I'm still seeing 7x daily, with some E175s mixed in. You're right however about the loss of mainline and the early last LGA departure, although the last flight from JFK leaves 45 min later. Looks like the fares came down about $100 or so, but still a market that could use some low fare competition.



FLYi
User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 26979 times:

hey guys a couple PIT spotters and I have got together and created a Pittsburgh Facebook page.
The link is
https://www.facebook.com/steelcityspotters
and if you could check it out and like it that would be great! The more support the better as we feel that a page for photos of PIT would be good!



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 26909 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 9):

I enjoy Enilria's OAG threads as much as anyone, but I've learned to take much of it with a grain of salt, one reason being "filing errors"

And that is exactly what happened:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA DFW-PIT SEP 3>4 OCT 3>4

So PIT-DFW remains unchanged at 4x daily MD80s for the Fall.

[Edited 2013-08-12 13:19:06]


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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 26609 times:

"Blocked US Airways-American merger could benefit Pittsburgh"

"There's concern that, in a combined US Airways-American Airlines, the work done at the US Airways maintenance facility at Pittsburgh International might move out of state. Of even more concern is the 200 or so jobs at the US Airways operations center, which opened to big fanfare five years ago in Moon Township."
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburg...ways-american-merger.html?page=all

Although I don't see this DoJ lawsuit being successful.



FLYi
User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 26537 times:

Neither do I...

How could a stalling of this merger benefit Pittsburgh? So they keep a measly 600 jobs at an OCC that, IMO, really had no point of being in PIT to begin with.

In terms of airline service, US isn't adding squat anytime soon. DL added weekly/seasonal (??) MCO and a few Caribbean destinations recently along with the potential of PIT-CUN pending FAA approval. AA added LAX, and UA is resuming daily PIT-LAX service to remain competitive from what I understand. Within the last year or so, WN added DEN, BNA, and HOU. Do they think that these airlines will go into retreat mode if this merger goes through? I don't see it happening. With the PIT market in general growing and poised for more growth, a merged US/AA could be in a good position regarding their PIT ops.

Frankly, I don't understand why PA would be against this. Both PHL and PIT can definitely gain far more out of this than they'd lose. The PHL hub isn't going anywhere; shifting all the connecting traffic through JFK would be suicide. They'd be directly up against DL and B6! Plus, there is some high-yielding non-leisure O&D traffic at PHL and a lot of it. PHL would handle whatever connecting traffic goes through JFK, while JFK would be a large domestic/int'l O&D market for AA.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 26455 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 18):
How could a stalling of this merger benefit Pittsburgh? So they keep a measly 600 jobs at an OCC that, IMO, really had no point of being in PIT to begin with.

600 good jobs is hardly something to sneeze at, plus remember there are another 1000 or so at the maintenance base. And why can't an OCC be in PIT? Just because a city is not a hub does not mean it can't be the location of an OCC. That can even be said of a corporate headquarters.

Anyway, air service not being an issue so PIT very much comes out a loser (job losses) if this merger goes through.
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...ld-cost-jobs-in-pittsburgh-699196/



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 26294 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 19):
600 good jobs is hardly something to sneeze at, plus remember there are another 1000 or so at the maintenance base. And why can't an OCC be in PIT? Just because a city is not a hub does not mean it can't be the location of an OCC. That can even be said of a corporate headquarters.

I think I'd be more concerned if the maintenance base were to close, but it is a good point that 600 jobs lost is 600 jobs lost. Speaking of HQs and hub/non-hub, that was the case with USAir in the 1980s-1990s. DCA was always a focus city, weren't they? Yet, the main hubs were PIT, PHL, CLT.

FL also comes to mind. ATL and BWI were their main hubs, while HQ MCO was a focus city...

So I guess that is a good point.

I still doubt that AA would move their DFW facility to PIT (it would be cool if they did, but I think it's unlikely). A drop of 600 jobs would suck, don't get me wrong. I still see the new AA maintaining (if not adding to) their 60-some daily flights they'd have post-merger.

Hopefully they'll come to some agreement. If this merger goes through, and if PIT does lose out considerably both in terms of jobs and flights lost, then I'll gladly partake in some A330-sized crow...



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 25842 times:

"Palmer airport's status soars"
http://triblive.com/news/westmorelan...passengers-authority#axzz2cEGAvc3n

219th busiest in the nation, on par with ERI. Not too shabby for what was primarily a GA airport.



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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4893 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 25721 times:

I noticed in the annual report posted in the first post Republic Airlines flew here (news to me) and Northwest is gone. When did they leave?


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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 25519 times:

Late 1983 or 1984.


Looks like WN's seasonal PIT-PBI is getting the axe next year.



FLYi
User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 24, posted (8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 25473 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 23):
Looks like WN's seasonal PIT-PBI is getting the axe next year.

Do you (or does anyone) forsee DL possibly increasing frequencies to MCO to maybe 2x or 3x weekly at least? I do wish there were other options to Florida besides WN, especially with them cutting back after acquiring FL.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 25, posted (8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 25571 times:

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 22):
I noticed in the annual report posted in the first post Republic Airlines flew here (news to me) and Northwest is gone. When did they leave?

April 30, 1984. I have a copy of the last NWO timetable with PIT service in it. Republic started service in late 1985.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 26, posted (8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 25566 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 24):
Do you (or does anyone) forsee DL possibly increasing frequencies to MCO to maybe 2x or 3x weekly at least? I do wish there were other options to Florida besides WN, especially with them cutting back after acquiring FL.

I think they could do year round 1x daily with an E175. That does not mean I think they will offer that; they have to weigh the costs/yields/demands of all the other possible markets that aircraft could be allocated to.

PIT-MCO has traditionally had two carriers more often than not going back several decades. I guess we do at present time as well considering Spirit's daily LBE-MCO.



FLYi
User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (8 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 25667 times:

These Florida cut backs are screaming for an airline, JetBlue!
Come on PIT, through together a quick incentives package for B6 to help them out with the first few years of service and get B6 started to bring costs down that, in a market with NO competition SWA will sky rocket their prices.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 28, posted (8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 25442 times:

Rare bird heads up:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/WAL776
Operating ACY-PIT-LBE.




FLYi
User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 29, posted (8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 25385 times:
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Quoting PITrules (Reply 28):

Nice! Does anyone know if 28L is still closed? If so, where should I go to spot, as I'm used to Coventry Health Care.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 30, posted (8 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 25374 times:

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 29):
Nice! Does anyone know if 28L is still closed? If so, where should I go to spot, as I'm used to Coventry Health Care.

I agree, that is a very nice looking MD-83 although the airline's name seems a bit ambitious for a small MD-80 operator.

As far as spotting locations, check out replies 128-142 in the 25th edition of the PIT threads:
PIT Update Thread Part 25 (by iowaman Feb 27 2013 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 31, posted (8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 25278 times:

I've never heard of that airline. How long have they been around? Not to mention, interesting routing all around. ACY-PIT-LBE?

Gorgeous bird, though. I love that paint scheme on the MD83.



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User currently offlinedabpit From United States of America, joined May 2012, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 25081 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 31):
I've never heard of that airline. How long have they been around?

They do a lot of charter flight, mainly to Cuba.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 33, posted (8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 25068 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 31):
interesting routing all around. ACY-PIT-LBE?

ACY charters have been going on for decades to PIT/LBE/JST/YNG, or any combination thereof.



Looks like the KC Chiefs are using a 767-400:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL1838


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Photo © Stéphane Mutzenberg




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User currently offlinekkephart13 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 34, posted (8 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 25014 times:

Word on the street is that the end of the A Concourse has been reopened?? Can anybody confirm!?

User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1602 posts, RR: 8
Reply 35, posted (8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 24912 times:

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 29):
Does anyone know if 28L is still closed?

Yes 10R/28L is still closed.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 36, posted (8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24889 times:

Quoting kkephart13 (Reply 34):
Word on the street is that the end of the A Concourse has been reopened?? Can anybody confirm!?

While I can't confirm or deny, I can't for the life of me figure out why they would reopen this considering most of C is vacant and needs to remain open due to Int'l gates at the end; not to mention last I saw half the gates at the end of A were missing jetways.



FLYi
User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 37, posted (8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 24799 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 36):
While I can't confirm or deny, I can't for the life of me figure out why they would reopen this considering most of C is vacant and needs to remain open due to Int'l gates at the end; not to mention last I saw half the gates at the end of A were missing jetways.

That's the last I heard as well. Is UA still on C or have they since moved on over to A? I'm thinking they're out of A now, which would leave AC (YYZ), B6 (BOS), and DL international flying out of C. I highly doubt UA is big or even busy enough to have any desire to use the entire A concourse, and same with WN and their 20 or 30-some flights a day (including FL ops).



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 38, posted (8 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 24752 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 37):
That's the last I heard as well. Is UA still on C or have they since moved on over to A? I'm thinking they're out of A now, which would leave AC (YYZ), B6 (BOS), and DL international flying out of C. I highly doubt UA is big or even busy enough to have any desire to use the entire A concourse, and same with WN and their 20 or 30-some flights a day (including FL ops).

No, UA mainline is still in C, and will be until September. BTW, AC is handled by UA, so all their flights will be where UA is located. B6 would be the only mainline carrier in C regularly once UA moves to A.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 39, posted (8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 24605 times:

"Airport shale drilling takes patience"
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...le-drilling-takes-patience-700649/



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 40, posted (7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 24218 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 23):

Looks like WN's seasonal PIT-PBI is getting the axe next year.

Correction on this, now looks like it will be Saturday only starting Mar 8.

"Consol unveils airport drilling plan"
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburg...irport-drilling-plan.html?page=all

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...t-pittsburgh-international-700938/




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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 24206 times:

The 1X daily LAX AA flight starts today.
I check the loads and they weren't pretty at all.
I believe only around 45 seats were taken.
Hopefully this is just the fact of new service and the future is much better than the first day.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 42, posted (7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 24059 times:

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 41):
The 1X daily LAX AA flight starts today.
I check the loads and they weren't pretty at all.
I believe only around 45 seats were taken.
Hopefully this is just the fact of new service and the future is much better than the first day.

Don't forget AA loaded the LAX flights with full expectation that the merger would be smooth sailing. Bookings should improve once US gets to codeshare and sell tickets on it. AA has a large premium base in LAX, so that will help long-term also.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 43, posted (7 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 24051 times:

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 41):
The 1X daily LAX AA flight starts today.
I check the loads and they weren't pretty at all.
I believe only around 45 seats were taken.
Hopefully this is just the fact of new service and the future is much better than the first day.

Next week's loads look much better; in addition fares in PIT seem to be between $50-$300 more than in IND/CMH/RDU (other new AA LAX markets), depending on the market and day.



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User currently offlinekubus From Poland, joined Dec 2005, 180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 44, posted (7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 23853 times:

So it just happen that out of 16 regular super commuters, 11 took the 6:30A flight on Monday to LGA. We had a little chat and it looks like DL is going to loose our weekly business because of the change in last departure from LGA. As mentioned it is changing from 8P to 6:20P and in October it is going to 6P. To put it in perspective, that's just shy of $250K a year in revenue.
United already matched my status.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 45, posted (7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 23410 times:

Quoting kubus (Reply 44):
So it just happen that out of 16 regular super commuters, 11 took the 6:30A flight on Monday to LGA. We had a little chat and it looks like DL is going to loose our weekly business because of the change in last departure from LGA. As mentioned it is changing from 8P to 6:20P and in October it is going to 6P. To put it in perspective, that's just shy of $250K a year in revenue.
United already matched my status.

Looks like US Airways will be offering LGA-PIT for only $112 ow during the Fall. That's the fare level when JetBlue was in the market. Last flight leaves LGA at approx 8pm. I imagine those fares won't last long.



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (7 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 23344 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 45):

When JetBlue was in the market fares were 60 bucks OW.
Its ashame B6 didnt really market the low fares to the biggest US city or else people like yourself who is an avgeek and all tourists/business would have known what the incredibly low prices were!



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User currently offlineGSP psgr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 23101 times:

Am I the only one who's more than a little envious that AUS (a metro area with 600,000-900,000 fewer people) will now have a daily BA nonstop on a 787 while we're left with a summer seasonal 757 to CDG. I think in general it's an indictment when our air service levels aren't even as good as significantly smaller cities like Austin and Raleigh/Durham (both of which will have year round LHR as well as domestic service equal to or exceeding what we've got).

On a personal level, I'm being recruited by several companies outside the Pittsburgh region, and while there are many things I'm going to miss, having to change planes constantly to get to most of my travel destinations (GSP, SEA, MKE, ILM/OAJ, LHR) isn't one of them. The only places I go with any regularity that we do have nonstops to are BOS and WAS. It's one of the things that makes it exceedingly frustrating to live here.


User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2640 posts, RR: 1
Reply 48, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 23071 times:

Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 47):
AUS (a metro area with 600,000-900,000 fewer people)

Actually, the metro area of Austin is more near 2M, and is growing rapidly, much quicker than Pittsburgh, Cleveland, St. Louis, and a lot of these other mid-west cities.

Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 47):
having to change planes constantly to get to most of my travel destinations

I can understand your frustration about changing planes....... but I would say that PIT, CLE, STL, and a lot of such cities/airports are probably getting the level of service that give carriers there $$$$$. If there is $$$$$ with a nonstop missing in any route somewhere, some carrier would quickly fill it.

As for AUS getting new 787 LHR service, well........ I think that BA does its homework well, and probably after looking at all of the data/numbers, they have decided that AUS makes the most in terms of $$$$$.

 


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 49, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 23048 times:

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 46):
When JetBlue was in the market fares were 60 bucks OW.
Its ashame B6 didnt really market the low fares to the biggest US city or else people like yourself who is an avgeek and all tourists/business would have known what the incredibly low prices were!

IIRC $60 one way was fare specials, off peak days, etc. Fares were often regularly above that. The real shame is B6 didn't increase r/t fares to about $250-$300 before giving up on the market; the other airlines would have followed after due time. From what I've seen and heard, their JFK flights were full, but obviously not making money. But that's been discussed to death in these threads.

Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 47):
Am I the only one who's more than a little envious that AUS (a metro area with 600,000-900,000 fewer people) will now have a daily BA nonstop on a 787 while we're left with a summer seasonal 757 to CDG. I think in general it's an indictment when our air service levels aren't even as good as significantly smaller cities like Austin and Raleigh/Durham (both of which will have year round LHR as well as domestic service equal to or exceeding what we've got).

You're not at all the only one who's envious. AUS is be a smaller metro area by a good margin, but on a per-capita basis, that area is an economic powerhouse. I was a bit surprised to see AUS be BA's next city, but I shouldn't be. As for Pittsburgh, the city is leaps and bounds above where it was only 5-6 years ago economically, and the rust has been shaken off with the exception of a few outlying areas. The region's economic momentum seems to be continuing forward with the help of Eds & Meds and energy industry, but not on the level of Austin's economy. But make no mistake, Pittsburgh's economic rebound is the envy of many cities.

Therefore, I do indeed believe we will see AA add a 757 to LHR in the next 3-5 years. I have a pretty good track record of predicting the region's new air service, so we'll see what happens. In the mean time, DL's CDG flight seems to be doing very well now with good loads and strong fares. The flight will continue until the end of October, whereas DL's seasonal PHL-CDG is already discontinued.


On another note, the more I read about PeoplExpress, the more it seems they plan on PIT being the center of their operations. As the article points out they have many hurdles, so not getting too excited yet. But this did get my attention:

"People Express plans to announce better news soon, including a "strategic partnership with a major airline" and opening of reservations, Morisi said. The company has identified 10 aircraft for its first year of operation and obtained landing slots to operate at Newark International Airport. The company also identified operations space at Pittsburgh International Airport, he said"
http://www.dailypress.com/business/p...plexpress-20130831,0,2823746.story

What a huge boost that would be, and to bring this post full circle, competition and lower fares on PIT-EWR would be most welcome.

[Edited 2013-09-03 13:59:57]


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User currently offlineGSP psgr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 22968 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 49):
Therefore, I do indeed believe we will see AA add a 757 to LHR in the next 3-5 years. I have a pretty good track record of predicting the region's new air service, so we'll see what happens. In the mean time, DL's CDG flight seems to be doing very well now with good loads and strong fares. The flight will continue until the end of October, whereas DL's seasonal PHL-CDG is already discontinued.

I hope so, though I'm a bit skeptical. When BA/AA got immunity across the Atlantic, it was much rumored that AA would be sending a horde of 757s from secondary US destinations to LHR, and so far we've seen jack squat on that front. The only new destinations we've seen (AUS and SAN) have been served with BA metal and are well beyond 757 range.

I've always thought that of the four realistic transatlantic hubs we could be served by that CDG is the worst fit. LHR has the best O&D, FRA the second biggest destination and perhaps the best global network, and AMS is easier for connections plus has a stronger UK and German network. Alas, beggars cannot be choosers.

[Edited 2013-09-03 16:22:22]

User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 51, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 22902 times:

So I take it the first flights will be between PIT and PHF as well as to EWR?

In any event, I am somewhat surprised by BA's launch of AUS-LHR. Sure it is a smaller market, but as others have said its economy is really in high gear. PIT's economy is getting there...

DL added a few weekly flights to MCO as well as some Caribbean destinations and plans on adding PIT-CUN. I think that speaks volumes of what's going on at PIT. That would be more low-yielding leisurely travelers, but it's still service PIT hasn't had in a while...



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User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 22935 times:

Don't be too sure about People Express. I read a news article on another thread today about laying off most employees. I'd expect the doors to shut in a little while. It was a good idea in theory, but lacked the true financial backing


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User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1963 posts, RR: 1
Reply 53, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 22891 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 49):
The region's economic momentum seems to be continuing forward with the help of Eds & Meds and energy industry, but not on the level of Austin's economy. But make no mistake, Pittsburgh's economic rebound is the envy of many cities.

Eds and meds are the tech bubble of new millennium. Doubly so, when much of it is being financed by government spending and you have a lot of politicians fighting to reduce that spending.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 54, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 22873 times:

Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 50):
I've always thought that of the four realistic transatlantic hubs we could be served by that CDG is the worst fit. LHR has the best O&D, FRA the second biggest destination and perhaps the best global network, and AMS is easier for connections plus has a stronger UK and German network.

I think we are pretty fortunate to have service to CDG specifically, as long as more than half the pax are connecting onwards. CDG has the largest network in Europe for connections, and is now actually a bigger O&D market than FRA from PIT probably due to the mere existence of the flight. FRA is too far east to offer convenient connections to much of western Europe, such as LON, MAD, DUB, etc. I'd love to see CDG go year round.



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User currently offlineGSP psgr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22731 times:

Quoting silentbob (Reply 53):
Eds and meds are the tech bubble of new millennium. Doubly so, when much of it is being financed by government spending and you have a lot of politicians fighting to reduce that spending.

I actually think Pittsburgh has one of the most diversified balances of industries out there. While Education and Healthcare are undeniably large, there's also significant amounts of jobs in:

-Natural Gas and Energy (examples: EQT, Consol, etc)
-Banking (PNC and BNY Mellon)
-Metals (Alcoa and US Steel)
-Robotics and Technology (Ansys and Black Box)
-Lawyering (K&L Gates and Reed Smith are two of the largest firms in the nation)
-Media and Entertainment (the new film production facility in the Strip District)

I'd especially like to see more growth in high tech and make Pittsburgh known as the 'Silicon Confluence' or 'Silicon Rivers' and join the 5 bigger tech cities: SJC/SFO, RDU, AUS, BOS, and PDX. If state government can avoid screwing up things on a huge scale, I think it's possible that we could become the jobs engine of the state on a per capita basis vis a vis Philadelphia.

And on one last note, I wonder if with the introduction of the E75s to the AA Eagle fleet if we'd ever see a point to point PIT-AUS service (maybe routed PIT-AUS-SJC and return) or perhaps more likely a daily 73G on Southwest.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 56, posted (7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 22686 times:

Speaking of Pittsburgh, Eds & Meds, technology, and the airport here is a neat story:
"Rep. Bill Shuster, a Republican from Altoona, made a 33-mile trip from Cranberry Township to Pittsburgh International Airport at about 11 a.m. in a computer-operated car."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...-11e3-961c-f22d3aaf19ab_story.html

Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 55):
And on one last note, I wonder if with the introduction of the E75s to the AA Eagle fleet if we'd ever see a point to point PIT-AUS service (maybe routed PIT-AUS-SJC and return) or perhaps more likely a daily 73G on Southwest.

Someday it may be feasible, but I doubt it would be Southwest since they just started PIT-HOU. The entire Bay Area is served only 1x daily, yet it is a much bigger market than AUS so I don't see PIT-AUS any time soon. Perhaps a more likely point-to-point route based on current business ties is PIT-OKC, but again I just don't see that happening.



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User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 22623 times:

I have a question to anyone who is familiar with the Latrobe Airport area. I have flown out of the airport a number of times so far, and my biggest issue tends to be parking. While that is a good sign for the success of the airport and the security of keeping those flights, my fear is that one day I won't find a spot...

Does anyone know of plans to expand parking at LBE? I imagine that Spirit is planning their next destination from LBE, but they may be hesitant due to the lack of ample parking. Any thoughts?

Also, one thing I noticed is that Spirit seems to have the inbound flights arriving between 9am-5pm. Was this intentionally done to keep within a normal 8 hour shift for employees (meaning trying to keep from paying overtime or excess staffing) to keep within their ultra low cost budget?



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 22572 times:

If PIT was to try and get BA or some form of LHR service,
Wouldn't the city and some businesses need to sign business contracts that say all Oversees travel would include BA that would help draw them here?
If so with the right amount of support from the city and local corporations we could get an international airline.
Any companies we could see trying to get London service?



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User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 22550 times:

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 58):
Any companies we could see trying to get London service?

My two cents would be BA with a 787 or 767. I couldn't see Virgin making the leap. If it ever did happen, I would see the route as an AA 757. The only foreign carrier I could ever picture would be LH to FRA. I really feel we need a nonstop to Germany. FRA is the best airport ever. I love the free coffee!



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User currently offlinekpitrrat From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 22287 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 37):
That's the last I heard as well. Is UA still on C or have they since moved on over to A? I'm thinking they're out of A now, which would leave AC (YYZ), B6 (BOS), and DL international flying out of C. I highly doubt UA is big or even busy enough to have any desire to use the entire A concourse, and same with WN and their 20 or 30-some flights a day (including FL ops).

As of now the wall is gone, the moving walkways are all functioning to the end, and they are even listing Arrivals/Departures on the boards in the extended wing. It looks like it has only been closed for 2 weeks. That being said there are obviously no stores or food areas open as everything was walled off. Also there are no jetways for gates 24 and 25 from what I saw. Still it was really nice to walk all the way down and get that different perspective of 28R. Got to see some planes take off and land.

From my limited knowledge I believe WN is parking FL RONs on gates A 17 and 19 ,also, all the lines have been repainted for those two gates. The Tampa flight was taxiing into 19 as I was leaving.

I know the whole A concourse has gone through a roof refurbishment. Anyone else have some more info on this?


User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 61, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 22159 times:

Quoting Cush (Reply 59):
My two cents would be BA with a 787 or 767. I couldn't see Virgin making the leap. If it ever did happen, I would see the route as an AA 757. The only foreign carrier I could ever picture would be LH to FRA. I really feel we need a nonstop to Germany. FRA is the best airport ever. I love the free coffee!

FRA may be the best airport, but O&D was artificially inflated when US was hubbed there in addition to the Bayer presence. Speaking of which, O&D might shrink even more as Bayer moves its NA-based execs to Newark. Bayer will still have its ops in Robinson, but the top execs I believe will be moving to Newark.

Regarding what all happens with PIT-LHR, I think it all depends on the merger. No merger, no such service -- at least not yet or anytime soon anyway...

Quoting kpitrrat (Reply 60):
As of now the wall is gone, the moving walkways are all functioning to the end, and they are even listing Arrivals/Departures on the boards in the extended wing. It looks like it has only been closed for 2 weeks. That being said there are obviously no stores or food areas open as everything was walled off. Also there are no jetways for gates 24 and 25 from what I saw. Still it was really nice to walk all the way down and get that different perspective of 28R. Got to see some planes take off and land.

From my limited knowledge I believe WN is parking FL RONs on gates A 17 and 19 ,also, all the lines have been repainted for those two gates. The Tampa flight was taxiing into 19 as I was leaving.

I know the whole A concourse has gone through a roof refurbishment. Anyone else have some more info on this?

Please, enlighten me as well. Interesting if that's the case...

Wait a minute, either in this thread or in the PeopleExpress thread, it was mentioned that the airline has secured space at PIT. Was that it? And if that's the case, anyone think it might be premature? They laid off people. Then again, I'm sure the ACAA quitely gave them a free pass -- for now anyway...



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 62, posted (7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 21650 times:

"Pittsburgh International Airport opens up 10 additional gates"
http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/4...port-gates-concourse#axzz2eqIBMM6H

Still not understanding this. Why open 10 closed gates and vacate currently used gates that will now just sit idle? Keeping UA on C allows WN to have all the space they need on A.



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User currently offlinekkephart13 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 63, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 21558 times:

I will say, i was just recently at PIT, and the open end of A looks awesome. Granted there is no concessions, but all the display boards are on, moving walkways are on. Here are some pictures... (Sorry if it is poor quality). Enjoy!!


http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy50/kkephart13/IMG_2095_zps77a82b80.jpg
http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy50/kkephart13/IMG_2094_zpsce67c4b2.jpg



http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy50/kkephart13/IMG_2090_zps74100d9b.jpg


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 64, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 21382 times:

Quoting kkephart13 (Reply 63):

Thanks. Working the ticket counter, I am loathe to go over to the other side, most of the time anyway! Looks like the end of A hasn't changed a bit since oh, 2008, when US pulled their massive ops there out completely. That was also the last time I was inside that part of A.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5222 posts, RR: 7
Reply 65, posted (7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 21180 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 61):
Regarding what all happens with PIT-LHR, I think it all depends on the merger. No merger, no such service -- at least not yet or anytime soon anyway...

Don't give up; even without a merger, I think US and AA will operate in the future as closely allied as possible. Just as CO was all but frozen out of Sky Team by the DL/NW combine, there isn't much advantage for US in the Star Alliance after the CO/UA merger. One World is a better deal for them - and, in that case, PIT-LHR by AA makes a lot of sense.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 66, posted (7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 21018 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 65):

I agree. But LHRPIT becomes far, far more likely with a merger than just a US switch to OW. Without the merger, AA is still stuck as an Eagle station; that makes PITLHR far less likely. I just don't see US or AA standalone doing such a route without a merger. STLLHR and DTWLHR are also long-term possibilities with an AA/US merger.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 67, posted (7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20991 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 66):
Without the merger, AA is still stuck as an Eagle station

Why is PIT stuck as an Eagle station? If AA determines PIT should be a mainline station, then what is stopping them from doing so? Regardless I don't see why that would be a deterrent to a hypothetical PIT-LHR flight.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5222 posts, RR: 7
Reply 68, posted (7 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20898 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 66):
But LHRPIT becomes far, far more likely with a merger than just a US switch to OW. Without the merger, AA is still stuck as an Eagle station; that makes PITLHR far less likely.

True, it's more likely with a merger; but even without, there is precedent for US joining the AA-BA TATL joint venture, in which case PIT-LHR gets even more interesting.

Why does being an Eagle Station matter? Why couldn't a single TATL flight be handled by the US ramp operation? I bet the unions would sign off on it if they saw it strengthening their other operations (and not happening at all if they didn't).



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User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1963 posts, RR: 1
Reply 69, posted (7 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20891 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 66):
But LHRPIT becomes far, far more likely with a merger than just a US switch to OW.

Both US and AA have focused more and more on driving traffic through their hubs over the last couple years and neither party has a connecting operation in PIT. I can't see how the merger makes it any more likely that either one would launch PIT-LHR.


User currently offlinetarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 70, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 20628 times:

Here is the latest statement from People's:

"Over the past few months, we’ve been hearing a lot of questions about when we’re taking off and where we’re headed. We’ve stayed quiet because we want to be able to deliver on any promises we make. Today, we are excited to announce that we expect PEOPLExpress planes to begin flying during the second quarter of 2014.

We are still mapping out the most efficient and effective routes, but we look forward to revealing the cities to which we will be flying. You’ll be the first to know as soon as these destinations are determined."



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User currently offlinetooluther From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 298 posts, RR: 1
Reply 71, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20603 times:

Twitter reporting that DL's PIT-Cancun service has regulatory green light...

@PITairport
We're going to Cancun! @Delta has received approval from USDOT to operate new nonstop flight from PIT to Cancun, Mexico beginning Dec 21.

Assume this is Saturday only as well? I do not belive CUN has pre-clearance; so this will operate into the C gates?


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 72, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20606 times:

Quoting silentbob (Reply 69):
Both US and AA have focused more and more on driving traffic through their hubs over the last couple years and neither party has a connecting operation in PIT. I can't see how the merger makes it any more likely that either one would launch PIT-LHR.

There is a significant traffic base with US here. I see US elites all the time on UA, particurly through LAX and DEN. There is enough O&D on PITLAX for two carriers to make it work.



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User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1230 posts, RR: 4
Reply 73, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 20542 times:

I see US has FINALLY upgraded their flight 787 (the 1700 CLT-PIT) to an A321 from the 734. For close to 30 years now, going back to PI days I have used that flight in all of its various iterations (mostly 72S and 734 with a few 733's for good measure). Hands down this flight has been the most consistently miserable travel experience of my lifetime. It is the equivalent of the Friday evening rush hour bus, packed to the gills every time with tired business travelers and exhausted families headed home from visiting the mouse vying for every single square inch of space. I don't recall ever seeing an empty seat on this flight. What few there ever were have always been filled with standbys. This is a much needed upgrade and I hope it stays. Heck I might even try them again someday if this sticks.

User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 74, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20464 times:

Quoting tooluther (Reply 71):
Twitter reporting that DL's PIT-Cancun service has regulatory green light...

@PITairport
We're going to Cancun! @Delta has received approval from USDOT to operate new nonstop flight from PIT to Cancun, Mexico beginning Dec 21.

Assume this is Saturday only as well? I do not belive CUN has pre-clearance; so this will operate into the C gates?

PIT-NAS on the other hand looks to be severely cut back according to www.delta.com

It's only showing 3 weeks of operation starting Dec 21, a whopping total of 3 scheduled flights.



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User currently offlineYQBexYHZBGM From Canada, joined May 2009, 202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 75, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20455 times:

Quoting Flaps (Reply 73):
exhausted families headed home from visiting the mouse

Visiting "the Mouse," I thought that was my trademarked expression!  

Anyhow, glad to see A Concourse at PIT fully reopened. I imagine that involved a lot of dusting and vacuuming.

If there is an explanation for the operational reasons behind reopening the walled off section earlier in this thread, I wasn't able to find it, so please explain or repeat as necessary.

Al


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 76, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 20416 times:

Quoting YQBexYHZBGM (Reply 75):

If there is an explanation for the operational reasons behind reopening the walled off section earlier in this thread, I wasn't able to find it, so please explain or repeat as necessary.

The reason given by the ACAA is that so recently merged airlines (WN/FL and CO/UA) can have their consolidated operations on one concourse.

That does not explain why UA had to vacate C though, as there is plenty of room there. That's still a mystery.

How about a conspiracy theory then? PeoplExpress has identified 10 airplanes for their startup, which would need 10 gates at their "hub", if they do indeed use the hub and spoke model. Coincidence that the ACAA opened up 10 gates, leaving C mostly empty?

"People Express plans to announce better news soon, including a "strategic partnership with a major airline" and opening of reservations, Morisi said. The company has identified 10 aircraft for its first year of operation and obtained landing slots to operate at Newark International Airport. The company also identified operations space at Pittsburgh International Airport, he said"

Wishful thinking on my part.

[Edited 2013-09-17 18:07:48]


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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 77, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 20449 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 72):
There is a significant traffic base with US here. I see US elites all the time on UA, particurly through LAX and DEN. There is enough O&D on PITLAX for two carriers to make it work.

According to Faremeasure.com, there's over 500 pax O&D per day each way. That's a significant jump even from a couple of years ago. It's higher than PIT-SFO O&D now.

In any event, I'm all for this merger. I don't understand why the State of PA is against it. Both PHL and PIT will benefit from it. QR is coming to PHL with non-stop 77W service to Doha. Would they have announced that if it weren't for the merger possibility/likelihood? Then there's AA's LAX flights. Granted I know it probably has more to do with LAX than PIT, but still. What made PIT more attractive than, say CLE?

I can see where DCA would become an issue. With the merger, that market becomes redundant. Does anyone suppose UA might have a split hub operation like what DL has with JFK and LGA? I'm just asking about what the future would hold for DCA if the merger goes through and slots at DCA are likely given back should that be the case.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 78, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 20417 times:

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 77):
I don't understand why the State of PA is against it. Both PHL and PIT will benefit from it.

We've already discussed it earlier in the thread, but at issue in PIT is over 1,500 good jobs at the SOC and mx base.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 77):
Granted I know it probably has more to do with LAX than PIT, but still. What made PIT more attractive than, say CLE?

Because CLE already has 3x daily service to LAX. It's also a hub to hub route for United.

The AA/US merger had little bearing on AA starting PIT-LAX. AA is building up LAX, and PIT-LAX was under served.



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 20383 times:

One of the major key airlines against the DCA situation is Jetblue. They want slots and they want new routes.
I heard from a B6 employee at PIT that if B6 got upward of 20 slots
At DCA due to the merger, digesting DCA slots, after beefing up florida routes and a JFK service, then PIT-DCA is a possibility. Of course that could be total false, just something I found interesting coming from the merger discussion.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 80, posted (7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 20217 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 78):
We've already discussed it earlier in the thread, but at issue in PIT is over 1,500 good jobs at the SOC and mx base.

Ah, right. Forgive me; I've been a little crazy with work and other personal things going on in my life at the moment. And yeah, no need to reopen that can of worms!

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 79):
One of the major key airlines against the DCA situation is Jetblue. They want slots and they want new routes.
I heard from a B6 employee at PIT that if B6 got upward of 20 slots
At DCA due to the merger, digesting DCA slots, after beefing up florida routes and a JFK service, then PIT-DCA is a possibility. Of course that could be total false, just something I found interesting coming from the merger discussion.

Well, this should be something else to root for in the merger. AA and US merge, divest slots at DCA, B6 picks them up, and B6 possibly announces PIT-DCA service perhaps 2-3x daily on an E90.



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 19956 times:

Hey guys,
Ive only been on this forum for a little under 6 months and as my name suggests im a diehard jetblue fan.
I know that this was a while ago but does anyone of yinz happen to have any pictures from the inaugural flight on June 30th 2006?
If any of you do could you please share them? It would be greatly appreciated as ive spent the past few hours trying to find a picture of the first aircraft that few here?
Thanks guys



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 82, posted (7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 19542 times:

From PIT's Facebook page:

"Member airlines in the Trans-Atlantic Joint Venture are meeting @PITAirport today to determine trans-Atlantic flights for 2014. With over 250 daily trans-Atlantic flights and a fleet of 144 aircraft, the joint venture between AIR FRANCE-KLM, Alitalia and Delta Air Lines is a model for successful international airline cooperation, providing benefits for travelers and the airline industry."

Interesting the JV would have this meeting in PIT. Perhaps news of year round PIT-CDG will come out of it? Or daily service next summer, which is already loaded.



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User currently offlinepliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 83, posted (7 months 2 days ago) and read 19491 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 82):

Interesting the JV would have this meeting in PIT. Perhaps news of year round PIT-CDG will come out of it? Or daily service next summer, which is already loaded.

I was thinking that if Shell opens the cracker facility we would see a AMS flight. They could call it the Marrakesh Express for the tourist market......


User currently offlinetooluther From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 298 posts, RR: 1
Reply 84, posted (7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 19432 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 82):
Interesting the JV would have this meeting in PIT. Perhaps news of year round PIT-CDG will come out of it? Or daily service next summer, which is already loaded.

I think you slightly read into the post. I did not read it that the entire JV was meeting in Pittsburgh, just that the JV reps were meeting the airport officials. The airport's Facebook feed plugs directly into Twitter (quite passe for an operation of their size!) so the "@" was just to line up the post to appear on both platforms...and that they were sucking up with the rest of the post.

Maybe I am read it incorrectly, regardless let's hope the conversation went well. Certainly year-round service to CDG is closer to reality than adding a AMS flight? And of course, new JV partner Virgin certainly makes the conversation a little more interesting


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 85, posted (7 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 19405 times:

Quoting tooluther (Reply 84):
I think you slightly read into the post. I did not read it that the entire JV was meeting in Pittsburgh, just that the JV reps were meeting the airport officials. The airport's Facebook feed plugs directly into Twitter (quite passe for an operation of their size!) so the "@" was just to line up the post to appear on both platforms...and that they were sucking up with the rest of the post

Re-reading the quote, I think you are correct.


Regarding Royal Dutch Shell and their future petrochemical plant, I don't think it will amount to much as far as increased demand to AMS. Besides, I believe they are co-headquartered in London. AMS isn't gonna happen, but all the better if it helps build a case for a London flight.



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User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 86, posted (7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 19335 times:
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Anyone think Stillers will upgauge from the 762 for this weekends trip? Would love to spot some rare heavy metal.

[Edited 2013-09-24 11:39:14]

User currently offlinepit From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 19307 times:

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 81):
I know that this was a while ago but does anyone of yinz happen to have any pictures from the inaugural flight on June 30th 2006?


User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 88, posted (7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 19278 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 85):
Regarding Royal Dutch Shell and their future petrochemical plant, I don't think it will amount to much as far as increased demand to AMS. Besides, I believe they are co-headquartered in London. AMS isn't gonna happen, but all the better if it helps build a case for a London flight.

Same thinking from this corner. If AA does not launch PIT-LHR even if the merger goes through, does anyone suppose DL or VS might launch PIT-LHR? Or I suppose daily year round PIT-CDG would suffice too! 757, 763, etc. doesn't matter. A TATL flight is a TATL flight if you ask me. Of course, it would be awesome to see regularly scheduled heavy metal service...



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 19275 times:

Quoting pit (Reply 87):

thanks PIT!

That limits it down to 2 E190s,
Either N179JB, "Come Fly With Blue" or N192JB "Yes, I'm A Natural Blue"
Do either of these names ring a bell? it was either these 2.



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User currently offlinepit From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 19246 times:

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 89):
That limits it down to 2 E190s,
Either N179JB, "Come Fly With Blue" or N192JB "Yes, I'm A Natural Blue"
Do either of these names ring a bell? it was either these 2.

What information are you looking for? The tail of the first A/C to arrive?

Looking through pictures, it was Blue Getaways, tail N216JB

[Edited 2013-09-24 14:08:20]

User currently offlinekpitrrat From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (7 months 20 hours ago) and read 19071 times:

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 86):
Anyone think Stillers will upgauge from the 762 for this weekends trip? Would love to spot some rare heavy metal.

Virgin is doing the charter so your options are A340 or 744. Believe they also have some A330's but I wouldn't imagine they would use that.

Anyone hear anything on when they are coming in?


User currently offlinetarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 92, posted (7 months 18 hours ago) and read 19026 times:

Steelers are departing Thursday evening for London. The Vikings used Virgin's A346, so I imagine the Steelers will do the same. There are also two fan charters on US. I don't know the type or departure time yet.


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User currently offlinekpitrrat From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (7 months 17 hours ago) and read 19002 times:

Quoting tarmacphotos (Reply 92):
Steelers are departing Thursday evening for London. The Vikings used Virgin's A346, so I imagine the Steelers will do the same. There are also two fan charters on US. I don't know the type or departure time yet.

Awesome! Thanks for the info!


User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (7 months 17 hours ago) and read 19005 times:

Anyone know the departure time for Virgin?

Also thanks for the help guys!
Means a lot to know what bird opened my favorite airlines service to PIT.



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User currently offlinetarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 95, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 18754 times:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...5/history/20130926/1225Z/EGLL/KPIT

Here is the Virgin heavy. Due in to PIT at 1549 local.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 96, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 18738 times:

Type is not available yet on Flightaware, however Flytecomm is showing the expected A346 (a first for PIT? I'll have to do some research).


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Photo © Helmut Schnichels



[Edited 2013-09-26 08:58:40]


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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 97, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 18720 times:

Here is the US positioning flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE9070

And its flight to London:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE9098

Interesting they are using LGW.



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User currently offlinekpitrrat From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 18657 times:

Flightaware mobile says A346 due in 3:44 but I'd say it will be closer to 3:30.

User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 99, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 18670 times:
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The reg of the Virgin is G-VWIN

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GVWIN


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Photo © Mark H



Also looks to be some pretty good weather for spotting. Hopefully I can make it out there in time

[Edited 2013-09-26 10:58:58]

User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 100, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 18579 times:

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 99):
The reg of the Virgin is G-VWIN

Considering it has "Win" in the reg, could that be a good thing???  

Aw man... I'm out here near PHL and I'm missing the action!   



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 101, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 18538 times:

Vodka Burner heads up:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VDA4911


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Photo © Eduard Brantjes





Also a Falcon Air Express MD-83:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FAO141

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...id+desc&page_limit=120&thumbnails=


Turning out to be a great day for spotting at PIT!



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User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1230 posts, RR: 4
Reply 102, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 18608 times:

Any word on who is doing the ground handling on that Il76? Might be a great time for me to call in some favors.

User currently offlinetarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 103, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18556 times:

I would bet its parking at Atlantic.


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User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 104, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 18556 times:
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Quoting PITrules (Reply 97):
Interesting they are using LGW.

Looks like the Virgin is too.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/V...5/history/20130926/2330Z/KPIT/EGKK


User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 18510 times:

Saw the VS! loved it! Took off 10C at around 7:50!
Now if only this would be actual service! still cool to see 3 birds doing transatlantic flights tonight!



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User currently offlineOak522 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18510 times:

Does NOBODY have an indulgent photo of the VS A346 departing PIT with the Stillers????

User currently offlinetarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 107, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18478 times:

Here it is arriving:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=221503518008915&set=a.221503471342253.1073741831.207362309423036&type=1&theater



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 108, posted (6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 18374 times:

I just clicked on that link and liked it.  

Seriously. Somebody had to have pics of that bird! How often do you see an A346 in PIT?



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User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 109, posted (6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 18353 times:
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Quoting steeler83 (Reply 108):
Seriously. Somebody had to have pics of that bird! How often do you see an A346 in PIT?

I was at Coventry with fingers crossed for a 28L arrival (perhaps it's time to invest in a scanner), but it landed 28R, I have some distance pics, but I haven't even had time to look at 'em yet. I'll post 'em if any are worthy.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 110, posted (6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 18328 times:

The Il-76 is now flight planned to depart PIT this evening nonstop to Bodø, Norway (BOO).

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VDA4930

Interesting flight; I'd very much like to know more about the purpose of this. Drilling equipment?


Edit: And it's only filed for 17,000'!

[Edited 2013-09-27 10:24:46]


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User currently offlinetarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 111, posted (6 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 18213 times:



More here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.221755241317076.1073741832.207362309423036&type=3

It was transporting a large crane I was told.



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User currently offlinepliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18097 times:

Hm...IL-76... I thought I heard engines that sounded like ball bearings grinding up in a insinkerator garbage disposal yesterday......that must have been it.

User currently offlinetarmacphotos From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 113, posted (6 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 18008 times:

Quoting pliersinsight (Reply 112):
Hm...IL-76... I thought I heard engines that sounded like ball bearings grinding up in a insinkerator garbage disposal yesterday......that must have been it.

This was a brand new IL-76. It had fan engines, not the old turbo jets. An F-18 came in to AGC yesterday, so perhaps thats what you heard.



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User currently offlinekubus From Poland, joined Dec 2005, 180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 114, posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 17678 times:

Saw the Virgin as it took off 10C this am as flight VS966. Had to wait for it since it pushed blocking our taxi and of course it caused us to miss the LGA take off time.
It did look like a monster comparing everything else at PIT


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 115, posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 17614 times:

Il-76 production ended about 15 years ago, so this was not a new aircraft. It was re-engined however. Production on new airframes is planned to resume in the future.

Quoting kubus (Reply 114):
Saw the Virgin as it took off 10C this am as flight VS966. Had to wait for it since it pushed blocking our taxi and of course it caused us to miss the LGA take off time.

That sounds like piss poor work by the ramp and/or ground controllers. With 12 exits from the ramp out to the airfield there should be no reason whatsoever why an aircraft misses its EDCT due to another aircraft pushing back, no matter how big it is. Its not like PIT controllers are overworked, and I'm still amazed PIT still has ramp control.


The fan charter is due in soon:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE9099



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 116, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 17271 times:

Quoting pliersinsight (Reply 83):

I was thinking that if Shell opens the cracker facility we would see a AMS flight
Quoting PITrules (Reply 85):
Regarding Royal Dutch Shell and their future petrochemical plant, I don't think it will amount to much as far as increased demand to AMS

Some corporate jet activity though...
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SHE904



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 117, posted (6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 16846 times:

Frontier Airlines will be resuming their seasonal scheduled flights to CUN and PUJ in 2014, starting in May. www.flyfrontier.com

As of now, DL still has their flights to PUJ loaded during that time, so we will have two scheduled carriers to Punta Cana, and maybe CUN as well if DL ever gets around to loading those flights.



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User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 118, posted (6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 16582 times:
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http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...urgh-arnold-palmer-airport-706831/

Twice daily bus service from downtown Pittsburgh to LBE. Interesting.

Quote:
Buses will depart from the Greyhound station in Downtown Pittsburgh at 6:15 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. daily, arriving at the airport in Unity about 1 hour, 20 minutes later. Airport bus departures will be at 4:30 p.m. and 7:25 p.m. with similar travel times back to Pittsburgh.


User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 16367 times:

I was kind of hoping for NK on LBE-PHL. Any chance? it appears NK though is focusing more on Sunbelt routes, ie DFW

Another one maybe better is Frontier on PIT-TTN or ILG. It could permit lower fares for weekend getaways to NYC if TTN, although a pax arriving into TTN would likely need to take a cab ($30) to Trenton Transit Ctr., or a hotel in Princeton if arriving late in the evening.

The turnpike drive isn't bad, with several decent rest areas, but I think there would be weekend demand who would support flight.

[Edited 2013-10-10 10:52:29]

User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 120, posted (6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 16291 times:

Quoting Flytravel (Reply 119):

Another one maybe better is Frontier on PIT-TTN

I think F9 doing a PIT-DEN/TTN service is a real possibility. The TTN service being especially useful considering PIT lost low fare service to both PHL and NYC.



"Shale gas drilling helps Pittsburgh airport reduce fees again"
http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/4...irport-drilling-fees#axzz2hJ9ByXUg
Not a meaningful reduction, but a step in the right direction.


"Airlines, Allegheny County discuss adding international service"
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...s-fees-charged-to-airlines-706851/

"Mr. Fitzgerald said officials have talked to KLM about flying into Amsterdam and to Alitalia about possible nonstop service to Rome."
Nothing wrong with courting airlines for new service, but talk about the wrong airlines! KLM to AMS (Skyteam) is completely redundant to DL's PIT-CDG flight. Alitalia?

"They also have talked to American Airlines about potentially introducing service to London from Pittsburgh"
   The only part of the article that makes any sense, in addition to increasing flights to CDG.

[Edited 2013-10-10 16:16:03]


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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 121, posted (6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16170 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 120):
The only part of the article that makes any sense, in addition to increasing flights to CDG.

Agreed. PIT is not New York, Chicago, or Atlanta for that regard. The traffic is not there that could support both CDG and AMS. I also agree that AA (or BA) to LHR makes the most sense. Isn't O&D to LHR higher than that to CDG? Although I suppose DL might consider it; didn't they announce a joint-venture with Virgin?



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User currently offlinepliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 16131 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 120):
"Mr. Fitzgerald said officials have talked to KLM about flying into Amsterdam and to Alitalia about possible nonstop service to Rome."
Nothing wrong with courting airlines for new service, but talk about the wrong airlines! KLM to AMS (Skyteam) is completely redundant to DL's PIT-CDG flight. Alitalia?

"They also have talked to American Airlines about potentially introducing service to London from Pittsburgh"
   The only part of the article that makes any sense, in addition to increasing flights to CDG.

I stated on other threads before due to the cracker plant and other endeavors of Shell don't count out KLM. As usual, I got the "no way" treatment from you guys. Most of the "no way" things I have posed have come true. Skyteam, yeah, but it is not redundant if it doesn't go to Roissy. Now Amsterdam, land of pot, hookers and diamonds...you'd get a good number of potheads and sex tourists to fill out economy, with the RDC types in biz.

Alitalia, yeah, I'm a doubter of that. The only thing more likely to be a failure would be if they code shared the flight with PeopleExpress.


User currently offlinejfk69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1389 posts, RR: 1
Reply 123, posted (6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 16131 times:

Quoting pit (Reply 90):
What information are you looking for? The tail of the first A/C to arrive?

Looking through pictures, it was Blue Getaways, tail N216JB

Just opened the thread for the first time in a while. I was actually on the inaugural flight and I looked back into my flight memory account and you are correct, it was N216JB.

Funny to think about now, but at the time the media was all over this landing and it actually headed the midday news that day.....Boy have they moved on.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 124, posted (6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 16030 times:

Quoting pliersinsight (Reply 122):
Skyteam, yeah, but it is not redundant if it doesn't go to Roissy.

Sorrry, but it most definitely is as it would be the same alliance providing the same connections over the same traffic flows to that part of the world. The 20 or so people going between PIT and AMS daily doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Shell might add a couple more daily, and even that is a generous number considering Bayer doesn't even fly more than that to Germany.

Quoting pliersinsight (Reply 122):
Most of the "no way" things I have posed have come true.

And so have most of my PIT/LBE route predictions (NK LBE-MCO, WN PIT-BNA/HOU, AA PIT-LAX). KLM's smallest Atlantic aircraft is the A-332. PIT-AMS just isn't going to happen unless Delta totally withdraws from PIT-CDG.


If I were in charge of things priority #1 would be to get year round service to CDG. Considering the success of the route after getting established via revenue guarantees, I would propose a similar 2 year plan to Delta for the off season only. At a much lower rate of course, as winter is slow everywhere. Second would be an AA link to LHR. Shell btw is co-located there. Everything else is unreasonable at this point. Perhaps in 5 years or so considering Pittsburgh's remarkable economic turnaround, this might be a different conversation. But we're not there yet. When we are, I imagine the likes of Emirates, ANA, JAL are much more likely than Alitalia or any other third link to Europe (assuming AA to LHR will be our second link).



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 125, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15847 times:

Was at the airport Friday,
And UA switched the ops to A finally!
Would be great to get another airline to fly across the pond.
What would be great is if we got an upgrade to the 767 for the peak summe travel times.
I've met business travelers who choose to connect still on the east coast to fly the bigger aircraft which have a much better first with lie flats and a much better club such as the delta sky club at T4 in JFK. I'm sure the first would be a lot fuller if we had a better first class available on the route!



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 126, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 15635 times:

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 125):
And UA switched the ops to A finally!

Yes, with headaches aplenty, I can assure you! Some of the gates have spritzy PA mics, A18 and A20 have no computers or PA systems on them....the issues go on and on...but that's what can be expected when you move your ops from two concourses to one. We use A2, A4, A6, A8, A10, and A12 for regular ops, and A14, A16, A18 and even A20 for RONs. I've been over twice in the last two days, and I really like the setup...yes, these moves take time, but it should be a much, much better experience once we (UA/UAX) get all settled in.



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User currently offlinetooluther From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 298 posts, RR: 1
Reply 127, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 15615 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 120):
"Mr. Fitzgerald said officials have talked to KLM about flying into Amsterdam and to Alitalia about possible nonstop service to Rome."
Nothing wrong with courting airlines for new service, but talk about the wrong airlines! KLM to AMS (Skyteam) is completely redundant to DL's PIT-CDG flight. Alitalia?

I had the opportunity to hear the whole story (and it is a long one) about how the CDG flight came to be from some Allegheny Conference officials a couple weeks ago. They wanted AMS all along b/c it is a better connecting airport and I would imagine that is still the angle. CDG obviously does not have a great reputation for transit passengers, but once the Delta/Northwest Merger happened DL and AF wanted to develop these second tier flights to feed the hub in Paris no Amsterdam...and the local biz folks were smart enough to know to take the CDG flight which has turned out to be a very smart bet.

Wholeheartedly agree with PITrules on the priority of developing transatlatic flights. People are never going to get used to flying through Paris to connect to Europe for business if it is only a seasonal flight. What would you guys think about a split CDG/LHR operation out of PIT on DL or DL+AA? 3x weekly service to each; is that too erratic?


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 128, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 15443 times:

Quoting tooluther (Reply 127):
What would you guys think about a split CDG/LHR operation out of PIT on DL or DL+AA? 3x weekly service to each; is that too erratic?

I think it is too erratic as 3-4x weekly is no good for the business traveler. LHR with an AA 757 could easily be year round, daily in the summer and 5x weekly in the winter. If that service comes about then I think the only way PIT could handle a second Europe destination is in the summer only, probably less than daily. But that's what DL only gives us right now, so I think there is room for a LHR flight, but not from anywhere else if we are to keep the CDG service.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 129, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 15410 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 128):
LHR with an AA 757 could easily be year round, daily in the summer and 5x weekly in the winter. If that service comes about then I think the only way PIT could handle a second Europe destination is in the summer only, probably less than daily. But that's what DL only gives us right now, so I think there is room for a LHR flight, but not from anywhere else if we are to keep the CDG service.

AA seems to like doing things daily, period. The LAX flight is daily, even Saturday, while UA runs every day except Saturday.



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 130, posted (6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 14836 times:

this has probably been asked before but what are the top 10 markets served from PIT? any room for growth or new airlines on the top10 routes?


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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5222 posts, RR: 7
Reply 131, posted (6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14783 times:

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 130):
this has probably been asked before but what are the top 10 markets served from PIT?

For the year ending June 30, 2013

City Pax in thousands
ATL 430
CLT 341
ORD 262
MDW 196
PHL 192
MCO 186
LGA 180
DFW 163
BOS 154
IAH 154



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 132, posted (6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 14752 times:

Frontier is now doing some of the LBE-ACY charters:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RPA5215


"Plans for upgrades at Pittsburgh International Airport face criticism"
http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/4...t-million-pittsburgh#axzz2iWMqHfDa

I couldn't agree more, although that awful bathroom tile fllooring needs to go.



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User currently offlinepliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (6 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14707 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 124):
But we're not there yet.

That I agree with completely. All of this is clearly 50% conspeculation

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 131):

Quoting jetblue1058 (Reply 130):
this has probably been asked before but what are the top 10 markets served from PIT?

For the year ending June 30, 2013

City Pax in thousands
ATL 430
CLT 341
ORD 262
MDW 196
PHL 192
MCO 186
LGA 180
DFW 163
BOS 154
IAH 154

I would venture a guess that most of that traffic is because those airports are hubs, not because 430k people went to Atlanta for business or pleasure, with the possible exception of MCO and LGA.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 134, posted (6 months 4 hours ago) and read 14360 times:

UPMC's new toy:
http://www.post-gazette.com/frontpag...orporate-flag/stories/201310250134



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User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 135, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13945 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 120):
I think F9 doing a PIT-DEN/TTN service is a real possibility. The TTN service being especially useful considering PIT lost low fare service to both PHL and NYC.

I was looking more at LBE, and noticed that NK doesn't fly LBE-TPA or LBE-RSW. Would there be potential for F9 to pick up un-served routes from LBE, and thus better prospects at LBE? One good thing is NK has already helped build the airport awareness.

Maybe F9 could consider
LBE-DEN (F9 used to fly CAK-DEN)
LBE-TTN
LBE-MDW
LBE-TPA
LBE-RSW

This would somewhat look like the ILG schedule (aside from TTN being flown, and NK flying MCO already). I think if F9 priced LBE-MDW at the low fares that TTN gets for it's short hauls like $50, it'd be very popular. WN only prices PIT-MDW at around a $50 fare when it has it's mile based specials, i.e. $49 for under $500 mile special, like once or twice a year, and that's it.

It's typically $82 advance purchase, and United has a $161 weekend specials between PIT-ORD but nothing like $50 one-way that F9 would offer. LBE-DTW I don't see likely, but LBE-ATL on a limited basis might have some possibility as well.


User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2640 posts, RR: 1
Reply 136, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13915 times:

Quoting Flytravel (Reply 135):
Maybe F9 could consider
LBE-DEN (F9 used to fly CAK-DEN)
LBE-TTN
LBE-MDW
LBE-TPA
LBE-RSW

Okay, if we're doing F9 route predictions from LBE, of course here's my    on the table........

DEN - of course
TTN - hmmmm... I hesitate here..... maybe too close to each other?
MDW - yes
TPA - yes, seasonally and sub-daily
RSW - same as TPA

then

BOS - yes
IAH - yes, oil/gas/energy VFR connections
MSY - seasonal and sub-daily

and that's all she wrote here folks........

 


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 137, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13923 times:

Delta firmed up their trans-Atlantic schedules, and PIT-CDG is indeed increased to daily as of this time. Lets hope that remains the case. It does resume a bit later than originally loaded, starting in late April.

PIT-MEM is still showing 2x daily, PIT being one of the few non-hub cities to be served more than 1x daily after the latest MEM cuts, most likely because of FedEx.

Quoting Flytravel (Reply 135):
I was looking more at LBE, and noticed that NK doesn't fly LBE-TPA or LBE-RSW. Would there be potential for F9 to pick up un-served routes from LBE, and thus better prospects at LBE?

Not only does NK not serve LBE-TPA/RSW, but PIT-RSW/TPA/FLL gets only minimal LUV compared to before the WN/FL merger. So I think there would be room for someone to pick up LBE-RSW/TPA.

I'd like to see F9 at PIT however, as they already have a presence there with PIT-CUN/PUJ. It makes no sense for them to fragment their ops across two airports in the same market.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5222 posts, RR: 7
Reply 138, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 13781 times:

Quoting point2point (Reply 136):
TTN - hmmmm... I hesitate here..... maybe too close to each other?

Is flying to TTN a useful substitute for Pittsburgh folks bound for Philadelphia? Or does TTN add enough ground time that you might as well drive and be done with it?



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User currently offlinejetblue1058 From United States of America, joined Mar 2013, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 13768 times:

F9 would be a hit for TTN and MDW service from here.
Both big markets from PIT, many people would travel to.
I think the high costs to operate flights from PIT would be a big downer, and probably a reason why they would Goto LBE.
SWA after the merger is really lowering Florida freq.
the costs are going up while the options down.
We really should get another airline to operate FL flights.
Cough cough, B6.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 140, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13701 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 138):
Is flying to TTN a useful substitute for Pittsburgh folks bound for Philadelphia? Or does TTN add enough ground time that you might as well drive and be done with it?

I guess an appropriate question would be:
Of the PHL-bound O&D traffic, how much of it is going to the New Jersey suburbs? Of course, if there was some connection from TTN to either downtown Trenton or Hamilton Station (NJ Transit), that would then provide a possible connection option for New York/Newark-bound travelers; that's roughly a 50-minute train ride. Then again, there's the transfer factor from TTN to NJ Transit...

Quoting PITrules (Reply 137):
Delta firmed up their trans-Atlantic schedules, and PIT-CDG is indeed increased to daily as of this time. Lets hope that remains the case. It does resume a bit later than originally loaded, starting in late April.

Heck, I'll still take the daily TATL flights as a win.  



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User currently offlinekubus From Poland, joined Dec 2005, 180 posts, RR: 1
Reply 141, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13607 times:

As much bashing I did about DL changing the last departure from LGA to 6P and the CR7 downgrade... well I do have to say something nice. Tonight's flight was perfect, Departure at 6P, and I was out of the parking lot at 7:23P. 4th in line for takeoff and that was with switching from 31 to 13 for departure.
I noticed United gates in D are all covered up. Guessing DL is working on them or someone else is going in there?


User currently offlinekkephart13 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 142, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 13355 times:

Quoting tooluther (Reply 71):

Twitter reporting that DL's PIT-Cancun service has regulatory green light...

@PITairport
We're going to Cancun! @Delta has received approval from USDOT to operate new nonstop flight from PIT to Cancun, Mexico beginning Dec 21.

Assume this is Saturday only as well? I do not belive CUN has pre-clearance; so this will operate into the C gates?

Did this flight get the axe before it began? I dont see it bookable at all....


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 143, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 13354 times:

Allegiant Air adds 2x weekly flights from CKB to SFD Nov. 14. So they will offer service from northwest of Pittsburgh (YNG) and now southwest. No doubt some people from Pittsburgh will make the drive, but it is quite the haul to either airport. I wouldn't be surprised if they balance things out to the east in the future with service to either LBE or JST. My money would be on LBE because they would draw from both Johnstown and most of Pittsburgh. JST would only draw from Johnstown and Altoona; road access to JST from Pittsburgh is horrible.

LBE-LAS would be a great market, and flights to their focus cities in PIE and PND would add the additional service to Tampa and Ft. Meyers we are discussing.

Quoting kkephart13 (Reply 142):
Did this flight get the axe before it began? I dont see it bookable at all....

It never was bookable; another example of the ACAA jumping the gun. The www.pitairport.com route map had a start date of Feb 14 up until a few days ago; it was finally just removed.



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 144, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13170 times:

"Delta bolsters Pittsburgh-to-Paris service"
http://www.post-gazette.com/business...Paris-service/stories/201311020037

Not quite daily, but at least they extend the season by a few weeks.



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User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12997 times:

I like everyone's input on potential new NK flights or carriers out of LBE. Let me give my two cents please...

- NK will remain the only carrier at LBE. Remember, the airport only has 2 stands for the airbus aircraft, which includes 1 gate and 1 airstairs.
- Johnstown is a joke and a fraud of taxpayer money. The poster that mentioned only Altoona and Johnstown residents using it are right.
- Allegiant will not make a push to LBE, and Allegiant is actually more expensive than Spirit. I priced out flights from LBE-MYR and YNG-MYR on each respective carrier, and the results were shocking! Allegiant was 2-3 times more expensive for 1 person with no bags than Spirit.
- My only idea of reasonable growth in 2014 would be adding a route to NY from LBE. I mean, think about it... They added DFW this year, which allows connections to virtually ANY Spirit city in the central to west coast. You can also fly to FLL on NK and connect to any Caribbean or South American country. That leaves MCO for the families visiting the mouse, and MYR for those looking for a quick getaway. That is all they need.
- PARKING.... Did I mention parking? LBE lacks ample parking. Should NK ramp up ops or a new carrier enter the market, where will people park? This is a serious issue...

Those of you who have seen me post here before know that I have a deep love for Spirit and LBE. I hope to see additional growth and expansion, but I am settling for the fact that I doubt this will happen.



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User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1230 posts, RR: 4
Reply 146, posted (5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 12975 times:

I have to agree with Cush above. I have been an ardent supporter of LBE going all the way back to the days of Cumberland Airlines and Vee-Neal. I have also flown my own aircraft out of their and had many business dealings at that facility. While extremely convenient the parking is a serious limitation. As Cush pointed out NK really has all the bases covered there with the exception of NY and the northeast.

User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 147, posted (5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 12871 times:

Spirit and Allegiant are two different business models.

Quoting Cush (Reply 145):
- NK will remain the only carrier at LBE. Remember, the airport only has 2 stands for the airbus aircraft, which includes 1 gate and 1 airstairs.

The main ramp is plenty large to increase the number of stands. I've seen 3 737s parked at the LBE terminal at one time, and that was before they expanded the terminal. They could probably fit 6 A-320s on that ramp if they had to. Ideal to have so much remote parking? No, but it is not a barrier to a new airline coming in.

Quoting Cush (Reply 145):
- PARKING.... Did I mention parking? LBE lacks ample parking. Should NK ramp up ops or a new carrier enter the market, where will people park? This is a serious issue...

This 'serious issue' is one of LBE's greatest selling points. Its free! The lot has just been expanded, and there is plenty of land to do so again. The Airport Authority seems to be on top of it.



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User currently offlinepliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12721 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 134):

UPMC's new toy:
http://www.post-gazette.com/frontpag...50134

That's a lot of airplane when you have zero employees. Does it just fly itself around on AP ?


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3283 posts, RR: 2
Reply 149, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 12594 times:

Anybody see an airline serving both PIT and LBE?


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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 150, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 12593 times:

Quoting pliersinsight (Reply 148):

That's a lot of airplane when you have zero employees. Does it just fly itself around on AP ?

Lol; I feel Pittsburgh is definitely better off with UPMC than without, but that was a stupid argument they tried to make.

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 149):
Anybody see an airline serving both PIT and LBE?

Nope not on a scheduled basis, unless they serve PIT-LBE direct which actually is part of the PIT Connector Plan which gets discussed.



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User currently offlinepit From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 151, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 12285 times:

http://www.flypittsburgh.com/PIT_Pas...enger_Traffic_Report_For_Sept_2013
I think the ACAA could make the apocalypse look like a good thing.


They feed us statements like the one below.
"Meanwhile, the number of departing scheduled flights for September 2013 increased 1.1 percent and the amount of departing scheduled seats available increased by 4.4 percent compared to September 2013, according to Diio, an aviation database system."

Then, oh by the way..
"Scheduled passenger traffic at Pittsburgh International Airport decreased 1.5 percent in September 2013 compared to September 2012"


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 152, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 12294 times:

Quoting pit (Reply 151):
I think the ACAA could make the apocalypse look like a good thing.

  

They really are spinmeisters. Just the other day on their Facebook page they mentioned how much lower fares are now than 13 years ago. I thought to myself "13 years is an odd number". Why not something relevant, like comparing fares today with 3 years ago? The answer of course is that fares have gone up since then. However I'm glad to see that Frontier Airlines is finally recognized as a scheduled airline at PIT offering their own service, not just "Apple Vacations".


Back to the topic of traffic stats, last month's was even more alarming. A 3.5% decrease while available seats increased 4.3%. NOT a good combination for an airport begging for more service. Not even the ACAA can spin that one. I honestly thought we were done with the declines. Continued job growth, population trends finally on the upswing, etc. should make for an improving air service climate (or one would think).



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User currently offlinepit From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12280 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 152):
I honestly thought we were done with the declines. Continued job growth, population trends finally on the upswing, etc. should make for an improving air service climate (or one would think).

I think the decline in traffic is due to all the mergers. This is causing the average airfare to go up. Pittsburghers would rather drive then shell out the extra cash for the convenience of flying. As for the seats and flight increase at PIT, this is the opposite of what most airports around the county have seen. The mergers are great for the airline because it creates less competition but its really hurting consumers.

On another note, the AA/US merger will be very interesting for PIT. We all know the US SOC is leaving, but I think this may be the final nail in the coffin for the MX base as well.


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3040 posts, RR: 4
Reply 154, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12253 times:

Quoting pit (Reply 153):
On another note, the AA/US merger will be very interesting for PIT. We all know the US SOC is leaving, but I think this may be the final nail in the coffin for the MX base as well.

I fear you are correct regarding the MX base. I don't see why AA wants or needs it at all. They have several larger and more modern facilities elsewhere. The good news is that so far Republic Airlines has been filling the vacancies that come available. Those are much lower paying jobs though.

At least the AA/US merger should boost the PIT-LAX flight, which seems to be struggling on some days, as well as help build the case for a PIT-LHR flight.

Quoting pit (Reply 153):
Pittsburghers would rather drive then shell out the extra cash for the convenience of flying.

Pittsburghers are rather a finicky bunch when it comes to pinching pennies. I'm amazed at the number of people that sit in their cars for 6 hours and pay huge Turnpike tolls to Philadelphia without even giving a thought to flying. Or sitting on Amtrak all night to NYC, again without even considering flying.

The more I think about it, this has F9 PIT-TTN written all over it, if the fares are low enough. I see they just announced 3 more Midwest cities. PIT can't be far off their radar.


On the topic of job growth, this just came out regarding Chevron's new regional headquarters campus:

"The plan calls for a Technological Excellence Center, including a laboratory, totaling 44,250 square feet of space in a one-story building that would employ about 36 people and offer parking, sidewalks and other amenities and infrastructure on a 20-acre portion of the larger plan.

A second phase of the development, according to Chevron’s master plan, “is anticipated to be a regional headquarters campus” with a 374,000-square-foot multi-story office building, a 123,000-square-foot commons building, a 414,000-square-foot parking garage for 1,200 cars and a 24,000-square-foot central plant.

Chevron’s expansion plans could extend beyond that in the future, according to the company’s master plan request to the township.
"
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburg...zoning-change-for-hq.html?page=all

This is a huge deal for Pittsburgh's growing energy sector. Over 500,000 sq ft of office and lab space with potentially more added later to be located just off the southeast corner of PIT. Should definitely boost UA's PIT-SFO flights.



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User currently offlinepliersinsight From United States of America, joined May 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 155, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12250 times:

Quoting pit (Reply 153):
Pittsburghers would rather drive then shell out the extra cash for the convenience of flying.

Not ALL Pittsburghers.....I fly to Filthadelphia, DCA and LGA over driving, even thought it costs a bit more. The lessened fatigue adds value to short trips, not to mention people forget what it costs to park a car in Manhattan. Time is money...and time spent driving is tiresome, annoying and costly.


User currently offlineAaronPGH From United States of America, joined Nov 2013, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 156, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 12017 times:

Hi guys, long time lurker here....for years. For some reason I felt like joining up today and posting!

I just wanted to share personal experiences here, as a 29 year old guy that frequently arranges travel for artists to come to town.

My two cents: I would imagine travel options like Megabus are having a pretty significant impact on flights. Don't forget that Pittsburgh is an increasingly young city, full of college students. I know that when I am throwing out options to get people here from NYC, Philadelphia, etc for stuff – and on a limited budget – most people *ALWAYS* choose the $30-60 Megabus option over a $250+ flight, sometimes with a connection.

Megabus is a 5-7 hour trip (with wifi and power outlets) vs the longer and more expensive Amtrak train. And Philly these days costs a huge amount of money to fly non-stop to. The last time we booked anyone on flights from NYC or Philly to Pittsburgh for an event was before JetBlue/Southwest pulled out and prices went up. Before that, we would fly everyone.

Obviously this is just a personal anecdote. But I would imagine there are a lot of budget-minded young people in the same boat in this town.


User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9116 posts, RR: 18
Reply 157, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 11988 times:

Quoting AaronPGH (Reply 156):

Are you by any chance on Skyscraperpage? For some reason your username looks very familiar...

Is your avatar in that forum some guy holding a glass of beer, or was it?



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