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787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 18  
User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9069 posts, RR: 76
Posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 42481 times:
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Hi guys,

now it is time for part 18.

Here again the link to part 17:

787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 17 (by iowaman Jul 14 2013 in Civil Aviation)

wilco737
  


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 42573 times:

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 73 Aircraft to 13 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO AUGUST
NH-20; JL-10; AI-7; UA–7; QR-7; ET-5; LO-5; LA-3; BY-3; BA-2; CZ-2; DY-1; HU-1

AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY & CHANGE INCORPORATION*
L/N 116 - A7-BCG – 8/xx/2013 - QR #8
L/N 100 - B-2736 – 8/xx/2013 – CZ #3
L/N 109 - A7-BCF – 8/xx/2013 - QR #9
L/N 90 - VT-ANN – 8/xx/2013 - AI #8 (Paris Air Show)
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – 8/xx/2013 - AI #9
L/N 110 - JA822A - 8/xx/2013 - NH #21
L/N 115 – N961AM - 8/16/2013 - AM #1 (ILFC)
L/N 106 - G-TUID – 8/xx/2013 – BY #4
L/N 112 – EI-LNB - 8/xx/2013 - DY #2 (ILFC)
L/N 120 - JA823A - 8/xx/2013 - NH #22
L/N 113 - CC-BBD - 8/xx/2013 - LA #5
L/N 21 – JA823J – 8/xx/2013 - JL #11
L/N 104 - B-2735 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #4
L/N 93 - B-2732 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #5
L/N 81 - B-2723 – x/xx/2013 - HU #2
L/N 85 - B–2730 - x/xx/2013 - HU #3
L/N 43 - B-2727 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #6 (Storage)
L/N 73 - B-2728 – x/xx/2013 - HU #4 (Storage)
L/N 107 - JA821A - x/xx/2013 - NH #23 Awaiting first flight
L/N 118 - CC-BBE - 8/xx/2013 - LA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - x/xx/2013 - BA #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 121 – G-ZBJD - x/xx/2013 - BA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 122 – N964AM - x/xx/2013 - AM #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 123 – VH-VKA – 9/xx/2013 – JQ #1 Awaiting first flight
L/N 127 – N965AM - x/xx/2013 - AM #3 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 79 - B-27?? – x/xx/2013 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 30 - VT-ANE – x/xx/2013 - AI #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 36 - B-2726 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 119 - B-2737 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #8 Awaiting first flight

*Not including the delivered aircraft and test aircraft (ZA001-006 & ZB001)


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4330 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 42308 times:

It's pretty nice to have 4 787 first flights in the last four days, interesting frames as well, some trivia:
L/N 120 NH; B-1 4/aug/13 the highest L/N to fly so far
L/N 113 LA; B-1 6/aug/13
L/N 93 CZ ; B-1 6/aug/13 filled in a crucial gap: apart from L/N 79, all frames from L/N 37 to 106 have now flown
L/N 21 JL; B-1 7/aug/13 with L/N 10 to 20 still not having flown, the lowest L/N to fly for a while and now making more then half, 9 out of 16, of the L/N 21-36 block as having flown



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User currently offlinenyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 42076 times:

Are we sure that ZA320 is on a C-1 flight?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE320



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User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1720 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 41948 times:

So, to recap about the early-build:

-LN1, 2 and 3, too different from the rest, have been discarded even as test planes, and replaced in the test business line-up by LN4, 5, and 6, which were to be customer planes, if my memory serves well;

-Many early birds have been rejected by their original customers (LN 10 to 19 and LN22); ANA took some (LN7, 8 and 9), to have something with what to start service (shall we expect those early LNs to have a short career at their original carrier?)

-Change incorporation in the "easy" planes is almost done: all LNs over 50 are delivered, there are three remaining to be delivered over LN30, which shall all be delivered quite soon

-Between LN19 and LN29, four have been delivered, four are in long term works, one shall be delivered soon, (one rejected, as mentioned before)

-Between LN10 and 18, none delivered, two in long term works, all others more or less in limbo; heavy modifications needed, with the wing design to be modified.

-Modification of the planes from LN19 on, after the wing design change came on line, represent more or less 8-10 months of rework, about a year between start of work and delivery; we don't know yet how long will be the rework for pre-LN19 birds

-Deliveries of the last modified planes is slated for 2016, meaning those will have been on the inventory for about eight years

Is that it? Please feel free to correct, if I've missed or misunderstood anything.

Thanks to the contributors who provided information in the previous thread, and to KarelXWB in particular.


User currently offlineRuscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1567 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 41887 times:

Can someone fill me in on what changes were made to the wing after Line 19?

I presume they are internal and not chnges in shape.

Regarding the early craft, I guess if Boeing is prepared to sell them cheaply enough, they could move.

Ruscoe


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11875 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 41846 times:

Quoting Ruscoe (Reply 5):
Can someone fill me in on what changes were made to the wing after Line 19?

A revised wing design incorporating significant weight savings was introduced from LN20 onwards. Also issues with wiring and design changes due to lightning strike protection have been addressed in this new design. Additionally, the center wing box was strengthened and the MTOW was increased from 219 to 227 tonnes.

This was a big block change. The LN10-19 birds will of course still have the heavier wing - it cannot be replaced anymore - but the EMC workers will have to strip and re-wire the wings by hand.

[Edited 2013-08-07 16:01:52]


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User currently offlineual747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 41803 times:

A7-BCE heading to OTBD/DOH

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR3787

UAL747-600

[Edited 2013-08-07 16:08:36]

User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5532 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 41800 times:

Quoting Aircellist (Reply 4):
LN1, 2 and 3, too different from the rest, have been discarded even as test planes, and replaced in the test business line-up by LN4, 5, and 6, which were to be customer planes, if my memory serves well

I understand that the situation is slightly different:

- LN1 and LN2 have been retired, and will go to museums;
- LN3 is too different from later frames for selling it to be cost-effective, but it can still be worthwhile as a test frame, and Boeing will keep it;
- LN4 and LN5 are currently engaged in engine PIP testing, but will eventually go through change incorporation and be sold to customers; and
- LN6 is going through change incorporation right now and will be sold to a customer.

Quoting Aircellist (Reply 4):
(shall we expect those early LNs to have a short career at their original carrier?)

I doubt it. They are in regional configuration where their range deficit won't matter much. I'm sure they will be the first NH 787s to be retired, but Japanese airlines have a long history of getting many years of use out of early-build frames.


User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1720 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 41665 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 6):
the EMC workers will have to strip and re-wire the wings by hand.

Ouch! That will be long…

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 8):
- LN3 is too different from later frames for selling it to be cost-effective, but it can still be worthwhile as a test frame, and Boeing will keep it;
- LN4 and LN5 are currently engaged in engine PIP testing, but will eventually go through change incorporation and be sold to customers; and
- LN6 is going through change incorporation right now and will be sold to a customer.

Many thanks for the corrections. I see I had not read the table properly. Who is to take that LN6?

So, Karel, I understand that the new wing was on line from LN20, not LN19. Thanks for that as well.

[Edited 2013-08-07 17:07:02]

User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 41631 times:

Quoting nyc777 (Reply 3):
Are we sure that ZA320 is on a C-1 flight?



TUI ZA320 (106) -- to try and keep everybody happy -- initially filed a flight plan indicative of a B-1 (already completed) or a C-1. Approaching KMWH it looks like there was an issue of some sort and it diverted to KPAE without completing the profile. Am I sure it's a C-1, not 100%, but a B-2 wouldn't normally fly a full profile route after completing a full profile B-1, which based on the data from the 31 July flight it did.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31062 posts, RR: 87
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 41495 times:
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Quoting Aircellist (Reply 4):
LN1, 2 and 3, too different from the rest, have been discarded even as test planes, and replaced in the test business line-up by LN4, 5, and 6, which were to be customer planes, if my memory serves well...

All six frames were destined for customers: LN1+2 for NH, LN3+4 for NW and LN5+6 for AT.

As seabosdca noted, LN1-3 have been written down and will not be delivered. I believe LN1+LN2 are now in desert storage (the photo database search function is unavailable so I cannot check) and LN3 might have joined her.

LN4, LN5 and LN6 will eventually be delivered as 787 VIPs.


User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5532 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 41451 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
LN3 might have joined her.

Last time I drove by BFI -- a couple weeks ago -- LN3 was on the ramp there.


User currently offlinedynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 873 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 40687 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 8):
- LN6 is going through change incorporation right now and will be sold to a customer.

Further to this, the change incorporation and refurb is being carried out at San Antonio. The earlier plan had been for more airplanes to be worked on here, but thus far I think this is only the third.


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3448 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 40581 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):
Not from the line number but from the ZA number:
> ZA100-114: domestic 264 seats
> ZA500+: domestic 335 seats
> ZA115-119: international 158 seats
> ZA120+: international 169 seats
> ZA135: international 222 seats

Thanks

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):
You sure? The 747 refurbish program has ended and those people were fired or transferred, but I'm not sure about the EMC.

I read it in the Seattle Times:
"The layoffs will affect chiefly employees who refurbish and do modifications on jets that have rolled off the assembly line in need of rework, he said. Boeing has several thousand employees working at what’s called the Everett Modification Center, a former supplier building at the south end of Paine Field. The cuts come even though the 787 jet modifications performed there are expected to continue into early 2014."
http://seattletimes.com/html/busines...y/2020621699_boeinglayoffsxml.html

tortugamon


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11875 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 40499 times:

Aeromexico LN127 (ZA563) on the 40-51 ramp.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/9464358456/



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3448 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 40010 times:

NYC777 has an interesting post today about the problem children: Air India, Hainan, and China Southern. There are 14 787s for these airlines right now and nine of them have had their B-1s.

How many of these do we expect to be delivered in August? Personally I have a hard time seeing more than three. Fooled me too many times.  Smilehttp://nyc787.blogspot.com/2013/08/u...-787-flight-testing-could-led.html

tortugamon

[Edited 2013-08-08 04:30:34]

User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1720 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 39441 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
Quoting Aircellist (Reply 4):
LN1, 2 and 3, too different from the rest, have been discarded even as test planes, and replaced in the test business line-up by LN4, 5, and 6, which were to be customer planes, if my memory serves well...

All six frames were destined for customers: LN1+2 for NH, LN3+4 for NW and LN5+6 for AT.

As seabosdca noted, LN1-3 have been written down and will not be delivered. I believe LN1+LN2 are now in desert storage (the photo database search function is unavailable so I cannot check) and LN3 might have joined her.

LN4, LN5 and LN6 will eventually be delivered as 787 VIPs.

And lastly, thanks again Stitch and seabosdca.  

I guess we don't know when those VIP planes would be delivered… It may not be very high on the priority list, right now.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11875 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 38999 times:

Quoting Aircellist (Reply 9):
So, Karel, I understand that the new wing was on line from LN20, not LN19. Thanks for that as well.

Indeed, from LN20 onward.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
I believe LN1+LN2 are now in desert storage (the photo database search function is unavailable so I cannot check) and LN3 might have joined her.

LN1 and LN2 are in Palmdale for storage. This picture of both planes was taken before engine removal of LN2:

http://oi43.tinypic.com/wiagjp.jpg

And LN3 is in storage at Boeing Field.



The last picture was taken by royalscottking http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11875 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 38907 times:

Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 13):
Further to this, the change incorporation and refurb is being carried out at San Antonio. The earlier plan had been for more airplanes to be worked on here

The original plan was to refurbish the first 20 planes in San Antonio. But I guess it was nearly impossible to make those early birds airworthy.

Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 13):
but thus far I think this is only the third.

Correct. LN6 was a testbed while LN23 and LN35 were used for final certification, that's why they could fly to San Antonio for rework.

I also found this on Flightglobal, about what they have changed on the airplane:

Quote:
While in Texas, Airplane 23 underwent extensive changes including wholesale replacement of its environmental control system air-conditioning packs and modification of ducting and baffling in the aircraft's cabin, as well as motor and fan changes and related software.

Further, modifications were made to the aircraft's flight control system hardware and software, changing out the outboard ailerons, outboard and inboard flaps and flaperons, as well as making changes to the elevator and rudder systems.

The aircraft now features a new wiring configuration, along with the fully certified version of the updated electrical power distribution system that was changed after the November 2010 fire aboard test aircraft ZA002.


[Edited 2013-08-08 08:10:13]


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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 38768 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 18):
And LN3 is in storage at Boeing Field.



That looks like Moses Lake (KMWH) not Boeing Field (KBFI)


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11875 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 38686 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 20):
That looks like Moses Lake (KMWH) not Boeing Field (KBFI)

That's confusing, seabosdca in reply #12 said he saw LN3 a few weeks ago at BFI.



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User currently offlineuta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 38648 times:
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With these first LN3-19, Wouldn't it be easy to cut out the wingbox and simply replace it and the wings with brand new parts.

Take the front and rear fuselage and bolt it onto a new wingbox and wing. It would take six weeks and create current spec planes. Then sell them to BA with a 30% discount.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11875 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 38619 times:

Qatar A7-BCE (LN103) finished IFE work at VCV. The plane was scheduled for a delivery flight to DOH yesterday but the flight was canceled.

With the freed space at VCV, it's time for the next QR delivery  



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 38619 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 21):
That's confusing, seabosdca in reply #12 said he saw LN3 a few weeks ago at BFI.

Driven by BFI several times this week and have seen one on the flight line and one getting towed out of the hangar yesterday morning (ZA004 and ZA005). No other 787's were visible. If that photo is of ZA003, it's not parked at BFI.


25 KarelXWB : You need a jig for that kind of work but the EMC doesn't feature such tooling.
26 seabosdca : I suppose I could have been looking at LN4 or LN5, but I thought I saw the full Dreamliner livery rather than the simple livery those two frames have
27 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Thanks guys, that explains it. Now nyc777 has to update his sheet too [Edited 2013-08-08 09:07:50]
28 Post contains links ual747-600 : Flightaware is showing the flight was not cancelled. Are you sure?? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A7BCE UAL747-600
29 KarelXWB : You're right, I was looking at the wrong callsign.
30 Aircellist : Wow! The 787 really has to be a great airplane to have survived so many troubles in its first years of existence! So, if I read correctly, the work o
31 seabosdca : The SOB modifications were done by the suppliers for LN 16 and up, and were completed by Boeing on LN 15 and earlier quite a while ago. So at least t
32 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Also worth nothing is that LN20 was the first major block change. The 787 overweight was reduced from 6.1 tonnes to around 4 tonnes. Correct. LN10-19
33 Post contains images KELPkid : So, along with today's blog update, we also got a spreadsheet update. LN/22 is showing it belongs to TransAero now...interesting that ANA didn't take
34 KarelXWB : Just as expected (I assumed TransAero would take 1 more early bird).
35 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Another way to quickly recognize the domestic from the international birds: the international have 2 sealed windows below the ANA tiles because of th
36 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : ANA ZA122 (120) up on a B-2(?) now: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE122
37 Stitch : Perhaps the work necessary to get them to a point to be able to fly to San Antonio is such that it's easier keeping them at PAE and completing the wo
38 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : NOR ZA577(112) up on a B-2 to complete the B-1 profile that was aborted on Aug 3rd: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE577
39 Ruscoe : I must admit to having difficulty with the weight problems of both the 787 and 350. The problem is what weight is the base weight from which to measu
40 KELPkid : 1) as far as I know, many modifications required after production parts were made added siginificant weight (e.g. side-of-body). The battery containm
41 KELPkid : From the previous thread (quoting tortugamon): I don't think Boeing wants any GE or Roller engines laying around, especially early production ones tha
42 Stitch : The fix involved actually removing some material via U-shaped cutouts in the end of each upper wing-skin stringer to transfer part of the excess load
43 sunrisevalley : From the ACAP sheets the OEW of the 788 is shown as 117.7t.
44 tortugamon : I do not imagine that the engines that were originally intended for these frames are still laying around. They take them off the wing for a couple re
45 parapente : I am totally lost on the actual situation re 787 production.All this re working is confusing me.How many actual new ones that are ready to go straight
46 tortugamon : Seven aircraft is the current rate and zero re-work is necessary on all of these aircraft. In June Boeing took down some the MOATT on line 40-26 whil
47 parapente : Thank you tortugamon, If I may - what is MOATT? (I am sure it is obvious and I am being stupid). So about 20 odd aircraft are being refurbed? I imagin
48 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : IMO overweight is the extra weight after firm configuration. Before firm configuration, the weight will change anyway due to fine-tuning etc. The 787
49 tortugamon : Not stupid at all, should have defined it. Mother of All Tooling Towers, I think. Its about 16. Approximately seven of those are actively being worke
50 tortugamon : What a great chart. Its interesting to see all of the iterations. tortugamon
51 KarelXWB : At the current rate, the rework should end around mid-2015. Boeing itself stated the rework should be finished in the first half of 2015. However, th
52 Ruscoe : Thanks KARELXWB Ruscoe
53 dynamicsguy : It also involved the addition of brackets at each stringer. The weight hit was substantial. For some reason 700 pounds is the number that springs to
54 kanban : Originally it was "Tooling".. but that's a moot point now that it has joined the "Queen Mary" in the graveyard of over designed tooling.. (Queen Mary
55 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : AIN ZA242 (90) filed for a C-4 and AMX ZA561 (115) filed for a C-1 later today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE242 http://flightaware.com/live/
56 starrion : A C-4? Just out of interest what is the most test flights a 787 has flown? 3 Frames availale for delivery. No one in a hurry to take them.
57 Aircellist : Karel, seabosdca, Tortugamon, thanks again for the informations.
58 7BOEING7 : Since I've been attempting to keep track of PAE flights (Oct 12) TUI ZA317 (92) had a C-7 (the way I count them) and two B flights. Interestingly eno
59 Post contains links KarelXWB : Jetstar LN123 VH-VKA is in paint. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/365902857771294723
60 tortugamon : I am really excited about this one for some reason. I like the grey and orange and the star tail logo. Can't wait to see a pic. tortugamon[Edited 201
61 United787 : This is like offering us candy but saying you have none!
62 Sooner787 : Anyone know when ZB001 will take her place on the flight line?
63 Post contains images KarelXWB : I'm sure Matt will upload his pictures in a few hours. He's now spotting around PAE. At least you will see it before me, it's 11pm local time here an
64 KarelXWB : BTW about the HU deliveries, I found this information in the ATDB: > LN73 (sn 34938), to be B-2728, delivery 2013 > LN76 (sn 34939), B-2722, del
65 KarelXWB : Additionally I have some information about CZ too. > LN34 (sn 34923), B-2725, delivered > LN36 (sn 34924), to be B-2726, delivery 2013 > LN43
66 seabosdca : Thanks for that information, KarelXWB... so in theory we should see some movement soon on LN85, LN100, and LN104, at least.
67 Post contains links Dan23 : moonm has pics of LN123/VH-VKA on flickr. She looks very nice!! http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/moonm/9475953650/in/photostream/
68 tortugamon : White nacelles. Looks great though. tortugamon
69 Post contains links and images EK413 : LN123 ZA215 VH-VKA: JETSTAR VH-VKA Boeing 787 by moonm, on Flickr JETSTAR VH-VKA Boeing 787 by moonm, on Flickr EK8413
70 KELPkid : Wonder why? The grey would have probably matched the silver paint on the fuselage better...Qatar uses the Boeing-approved grey. Silver doesn't usuall
71 Spacepope : Weren't the BA birds rolled out with white nacelles, only to be painted blue later?
72 EK413 : Perhaps easy transition from from JQ to QF mainline once the B789's arrive? EK8413
73 Post contains links KarelXWB : Here is Matt's picture of the Jetstar 787: http://paineairport.com/kpae6599.htm And JAL LN20 has left the EMC: http://paineairport.com/kpae6601.htm
74 KarelXWB : Correct, but the BA nacelles were painted together with the airframe inside the paint hangar. And the Jetstar just left the paint hangar.
75 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Few more, because it's Saturday Our first Boeing 787 in its Jetstar livery by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr Our first Boeing 787 in its Jetstar livery b
76 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : AMX ZA561 (115) airborne on its C-1: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE561
77 nyc777 : Yeah we've seen this with the last few frames that came out of the EMC. they get the majority of the wor done then send it to paint then back to EMC
78 Post contains links KarelXWB : Qatar LN116 (A7-BCG) delivered. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/Q...7/history/20130811/0001Z/KPAE/KVCV
79 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : TUI ZA320 (106) airborne on a C-2: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE320
80 clickhappy : Incorrect, still on the ground.
81 Post contains links and images pdxswa : Getting some upgraded engines at BFI View Large View MediumPhoto © Bill Shemley
82 tortugamon : Getting another set of Package C engines? tortugamon
83 flightsimer : I think I have a new favorite 787 paint scheme!
84 7BOEING7 : ??? FlightAware has it up at 3:43 PDT back at 4:49 PDT -- did they foul that up????
85 clickhappy : Two aborted takeoffs and back to the ramp around 4:45. Not sure what FA is smoking. Qatar to VCV just called up for clearance.
86 7BOEING7 : You're right, the track log for TUI is flat lined.
87 Post contains links tortugamon : LN 113 ZA539 for LAN is on its way back to Charleston from the plaint hangar in Ft Worth. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE539 I think this makes
88 United787 : According to KarelXWB the following Charleston aircraft should deliver this month: L/N 100 - B-2736 – CZ #3 L/N 85 - B–2730 - HU #2 I also think
89 tortugamon : They have delivered four in seven months so it would be very impressive if they could deliver four more just in one month. Hope you're right. This is
90 hkcanadaexpat : i think you meant to say that CC-BBE is going to Fort Worth rather than coming back... It will basically swap places with B-2736 which is done painti
91 tortugamon : You're right. On its way to Ft Worth not Charleston. tortugamon
92 ORDFan : Does anyone know what's going on with that 789 that was completed a weeks ago? I'm surprised Boeing hasn't done an official roll-out by now. I've seen
93 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : It was put back into building 40-24 to be fitted with flight test equipment. Heres the latest pic from Matt Cawby: http://paineairport.com/kpae6603.h
94 WarpSpeed : Allthings787 has 3 frames for China Southern and Hainan classified as in Storage yet others in Production Testing. I didn't see an explanation from Ur
95 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : TUI ZA320 (106) filed for later today to complete the C-1 profile it aborted on the 7th -- hopefully better luck than yesterday. http://flightaware.co
96 Post contains links tortugamon : An overhead picture of North Charleston's growing inventory: http://instagram.com/p/c4jW9PwIgT/ tortugamon
97 ual747-600 : Sorry can't view this and I have an account. Can someone post picture. Thanks. UAL747-600
98 tortugamon : I can't save the photo and upload. Here is a link to the twitter page that has the active link. Let me know if you are still having trouble. Sorry, ca
99 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : You need to remove the "s" from https for it to work: http://twitter.com/QuinnEnglish/status/366633674617262080
100 tortugamon : Who would have thought that twitter would be 'secured'. Kinda counter-intuitive. Thanks for the assist. tortugamon
101 Post contains images Stitch : "https://" is for secured websites. Since Twitter is not secured, you need to use the standard "http://". Back on topic, seven planes doesn't seem li
102 Post contains images tortugamon : I realize, that is why I was so surprised when the 's' was in the address. I have looked at bunch of other people I follow and when I open up their i
103 Post contains images United787 : I think I do too!! Sweet livery Jetstar Too bad the best liveries with the US majors were lost to mergers (NW and UA) Even US is better than AA.
104 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Photo of VH-VKA now in the database: View Large View MediumPhoto © Bernie Leighton
105 nycdave : Kind of off topic, but am I the only one who wishes they didn't block out the windows in the lavs? I mean, esp in the F/J lavs, would it kill them to
106 Post contains links and images pdxswa : The best livery to grace the lines of the 787 to date ! View Large View MediumPhoto © Bill Shemley
107 CHS787 : I agree!! My first build was LAN Airlines LN#113 CC-BBE and it's getting it's paint in Texas right now. Can't wait to see her come back home to Charle
108 Post contains images SCL767 : Agree 100%! Hopefully we will get some pics of CC-BBE at CHS later on...
109 pdxswa : I must add the lines of the 787 from this angle are stunning and only add to the beauty of the LAN livery !!!!
110 hkcanadaexpat : In an attempt to decipher the August delivery backlog, i've looked at "in service" dates for the various carriers. Something will have to give in the
111 Post contains images KarelXWB : This should work:
112 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : CZ LN36 (B-2726) has been towed to the flightline. B-2726 by Powercube, on Flickr
113 United787 : Great, another CZ all dolled up with nowhere to go, too bad Daddy won't let his girls go to the prom.
114 Post contains links KarelXWB : HU LN73 / ZA430 scheduled for a test flight. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...0/history/20130814/1800Z/KPAE/KMWH
115 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Since it hasn't flown since January this is probably a FCF which will do a full B-1 profile. Looks like TUI ZA320 (106) flew an FCF yesterday afterno
116 tortugamon : Very funny. So true. Not sure why they are even bothering to get these in shape. Thank for putting this together A. Solid work. Another 8-10 month is
117 Post contains links KarelXWB : HU LN79 is missing its engines and paint scheme and won't be delivered until next year, therefore it's being stored until the customer is ready to ac
118 nyc777 : ZA004 and ZA005 are both heading to San Bernardino. Sounds like they're both doing some concurrent testing. Interesting.
119 KarelXWB : I wonder, what could be the reason to paint the frame before installing the test equipment? What is someone makes a scratch? It was a VFR flight but
120 7BOEING7 : FCF -- Functional check flight
121 Post contains images KarelXWB : Thanks!
122 nyc777 : Aircraft is all taped up and since it has flown 5 test flights thus far there really isn't any work that has to be done on it unless they missed some
123 kanban : probably more due to paint building scheduling than anything else.
124 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : The production rate is still not back at 7 per month as described here: http://nyc787.blogspot.nl/2013/08/78...l-chairs-continues-at-everett.html Als
125 nyc777 : While this is very telling we also have to be careful as we don't know what is being delivered. Spirit makes other parts for the 787 including the en
126 Post contains links and images TheRedBaron : Photo of Moeing Filed on Monday 2 Am birds Ready ! There are a lot of other 787 around, specially for Asian Airlines.... It was so nice seeing those p
127 seabosdca : Appears to have been cancelled. Better luck next time!
128 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Well AIN ZA242 (90) isn't having much luck, it's filed for a C-6? this afternoon. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20130815/0000Z/KPA
129 kanban : actually there is a storm moving in..
130 starrion : Not that I am expecting anything like this to happen, but after 12 test flights I start to wonder.... Has an airline ever rejected a plane due to pre
131 7BOEING7 : Not in the last 35+ years that I can remember. Although it looks like 12 flights on FA, only 8 maybe 9 were related to delivering the airplane to the
132 Post contains links KarelXWB : Royal Brunei LN128 / ZA445 was moved to the 40-24 building. http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/9512183661/ ZB001 was moved to position 4 in the 40
133 parapente : Replies 123 and 124. This is the key really. They must start hitting much higer production rates soon I feel.The backlog is huge and I imagine that th
134 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
135 Post contains links KarelXWB : Second try today: http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/368024490338295812
136 Post contains links nyc777 : Next aircraft for British Airways ZA452 is scheduled for a B-1 today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE452
137 Post contains links KarelXWB : Well whatever it is, VT-ANN broke again: http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/367410715860008960 http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/36737923098568294
138 nyc777 : Those tweets was from 2 days ago. It has flown since.
139 KarelXWB : Yeah they just appeared on my timeline because someone retweeted them and I paid no attention to the dates.
140 kanban : This may be off topic, however just posting a twitter link is kind of like posting "read this".. I would rather see the content posted since it's so
141 petera380 : Only a fifteen minute first flight! Maybe something is wrong?
142 nyc777 : ZA452 took off from PAE and is now returning...looks like something went pop. It was only in the air for less than 20 minutes.
143 nyc777 : I just put up some breaking news on my blog regarding 787 production.
144 7BOEING7 : HU ZA430 (73) also had problems on its FCF and diverted back to PAE.
145 Post contains links nyc777 : ZA121 going out on another test flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE121
146 nyc777 : So far no test flight for ZA242....so far.
147 7BOEING7 : Looks like ANA ZA121 (110) is finally done with EWA flights and out on a C-1 (note the cardinal heading check over ONP) Fingers are crossed.
148 nyc777 : ZA242 is at the EDC according to Matt Cawby. Looks like it's finally being delivered.
149 nyc777 : Does anyone know if Boeing formally delivered ILFC's 2nd 787 today? This would be LN 115 and I figured that Boeing would deliver it to ILFC ttoday and
150 hkcanadaexpat : Next up... Deliveries: > VT-ANN (Air India #8) - aug 16 > N961AM (Aeromexico #1/ILFC #2) - aug 16 > JA-822A (All Nippon Airways #21) First Fl
151 7673mech : That is the plan. Going into the weekend and next week will be a busy week for the Boeing flight line.
152 Post contains links KarelXWB : Picture here: http://paineairport.com/kpae6619.htm
153 Post contains links KarelXWB : CZ 787 LHR service has been brought forward from 27 October to 10 September http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/16/cz-lhr-sep13update2/
154 Post contains links KarelXWB : Aeromexico N961AM (LN115) delivery flight. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20130816/1900Z/KPAE/MMMX[Edited 2013-08-16 07:58:36]
155 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Second delivery of the day G-TUID for TUI Plc. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM9431 And another C-1 flight JA-823A (same team that did the C-1 p
156 Post contains links KarelXWB : First a B3, followed by a C1. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/368398967874146305
157 Sooner787 : Did the Air India 787 already depart KPAE? That would make 3 delivery flts today
158 KarelXWB : It did not depart yet but was likely contractually delivered.
159 Post contains links KarelXWB : Additionally: http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/368409643858415616[Edited 2013-08-16 09:36:29]
160 tortugamon : Won't CZ need another aircraft to complete the CAN-LHR route? I imagine they can use one of their other two that are working domestic routes but I wo
161 Post contains links and images 7BOEING7 : Interesting, although TUI shouldn't be in a hurry for delivery based on the date of new routes, it looks like they "blew off" many of the normal C-1
162 seabosdca : In addition to LN100 at Charleston they also have LN36 at Everett, which Boeing just pulled out of temporary storage and onto the flightline.
163 tortugamon : Looks like they are cutting this one a little short as well. Fingers crossed. As CZ gets their birds, HU is usually not too far behind as well. tortu
164 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : That's fairly normal in this case. BAB ZA452 (114) filed later this afternoon to complete previously aborted B-1: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/
165 AirMailer : Completely out of curiosity: Does anyone know why out of the 3 aircraft for NH that have completed assembly, why is ZA514 (LN107) still sitting withou
166 KarelXWB : LN107 is a domestic bird while LN110 and LN120 are equipped with a international cabin configuration. I guess ANA needs the international planes first
167 xaapb : https://twitter.com/AeroMexico_com/status/368427955313078272/photo/1 Hope it get out of PAE on time!!! Greetings.
168 PHX787 : Is this still on the next up? I'm gonna be in Charleston in 9 days and would love to do some spotting.
169 nyc777 : Just found out from a source that ZA242 will deliver on Monday Aug. 19 and fly away to India on Aug. 20
170 Post contains links KarelXWB : Norwegian LN112 / ZA577 airborne again: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130816/2100Z/KPAE/KMWH[Edited 2013-08-16 14:40:23]
171 Post contains links and images pdxswa : Here is an all white 787 sitting behind the EDC anyone have a clue who's this is. Is this Jetstar ,China Southern or another British Airways ? View La
172 Post contains links KarelXWB : It looks like a white/grey tailfin so it think it's the Jetstar jet. Unpainted China Southern 787s have a blue tailfin and all British Airways 787s w
173 pdxswa : KarelXWB thanks for the info much appreciated !!!!
174 nyc777 : ZA452 hasn't gone up yet as flight crew couldn't start an engine, Matt Cawby says: https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/368465797934374912
175 nyc777 : The only in painted 787s are th e ones inside assembly plus ZA 432, ZA 534 & ZA 535
176 Post contains links KarelXWB : Yeah I'm pretty sure it's Jetstar LN123 (VH-VKA). > LN121 (BA): unpainted here and here > LN122 (Aeromexico): dark blue tailfin > LN123 (Jet
177 7BOEING7 : B-3, hopefully ready for customer after this flight.
178 KarelXWB : Hmm it looks like the flight was diverted, flightaware first showed a duration of 2 hours.
179 7BOEING7 : Just noticed that, was originally filed to MWH on a profile that would indicate a C-1 -- guess there was an issue.
180 pdxswa : KarelXWB can you say confidently 100% then that this is indeed Jetstar LN 123 ?
181 7BOEING7 : Looks like ANA ZA122 (120) got off 3 flights today B-3, C-1, and C-2 (hopefully ready to deliver now), GUN ZA383 (93) a B-2 and C-1, NOR ZA577 (112) a
182 Post contains links KarelXWB : Yes I'm convinced this is Jetstar LN123. The photo was taken on July 15 at the Delivery Center. Here is the same jet, parked at the same location on
183 Post contains links KarelXWB : Speaking about Jetstar, the 787 was moved to the fuel dock already. http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/9529019112/ And here is a clear picture of Norw
184 Post contains links SCL767 : Indeed, it is highly likely that LAN will not take delivery of either CC-BBD or CC-BBE until next month for various reasons, (including the current b
185 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Some action in Charleston today. VT-ANO (Air India #9) going on a flight test, probably to make sure all is OK for an imminent customer flight as the
186 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : NOR ZA577 (112) airborne for a C-2 to complete the aborted C-1 from yesterday: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE577
187 seabosdca : That's an awfully big and funny-looking B738.
188 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : JAL ZA176 (21) out on a C-1: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE176
189 sunrisevalley : what is the assembly status of the second and third 789 ? Is there a need for both engine configurations for this certification program?
190 817Dreamliiner : According to nyc777's site, the second 787-9, ZB002 (LN133) is undergoing final assembly in PAE. The third ZB021 should have its parts arriving soon
191 7BOEING7 : With the flurry of activity the last few days, it looks like we'll see 9 deliveries for sure and 2 more possible (BAB ZA452 & HAN ZA430) out of PA
192 pdxswa : KarelXWB thanks again !!!!!
193 canoecarrier : I was up in Lynnwood today doing some shopping with the kiddo and saw the Norwegian one fly over around 10:30. Looked pretty sharp.
194 Post contains links KarelXWB : Air India ZA243 scheduled for another test flight today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130818/1345Z/KCHS/KVQQ
195 nyc777 : Yeah probably another Boing flight
196 kanban : pun or typo?
197 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : BAB ZA452 (114) trying to complete the B-1 profile again today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE452 I'd put my money on a C-1.
198 nyc777 : Sigh, another 20 minute flight...diverted back to PAE...again!
199 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : There's a nice picture of a Dreamlifter loading a wing set in the database: View Large View MediumPhoto © KS - SJST Spotters
200 nyc777 : This coming week should be anactive week for 787 deliveries. I think we can see at least 5 if not more starting with ZA242 (LN 90, VT-ANN) tomorrow.
201 Someone83 : How much preparation work is done at Everett (and Charleston) on the parts delivered, before it is loaded in the assembly line? I.e. how many days in
202 KarelXWB : I believe wings arrive a few days earlier because they need some preparation like wing tip attachment; fuselage sections arrive later and go directly
203 Post contains links KarelXWB : And it's back in 40-24. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/369267153981026305
204 AirMailer : Now that the assembly line has been reconfigured: Do both 40-24 & 40-26 have a position 4 now? (If this was already discussed I missed the memo.)
205 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
206 Post contains links and images KELPkid : This can't be good news for AI deliveries: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...nds-drop-on-fed-taper-concern.html Just what Boeing needed: a curren
207 Crosswind : Thomson is running a full short-haul programme with the 787 (unadvertised) at the moment. Currently 2 787s at a time are used on long-haul and the 3r
208 PHX787 : The final 788 delivery to NH. Kinda bittersweet. I'll most likely be there for delivery. Is this a domestic or international config?
209 NYC777 : How's it the final 787-8 delivery to NH. They have 36 on order and 20 delivered thus far. They have another 16 to go.
210 KarelXWB : JA821A is domestic.
211 PHX787 : Why am I getting my numbers messed up? Is JL the one with 23 deliveries? Thanks. I'm curious about whether which one serves which, so I'll be asking
212 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : JAL ZA176 (21 ) filed for C-2 later this evening: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE176
213 sunrisevalley : If AI are settling in $US and they have not hedged it they are more incompetent than we have been led to believe.
214 NYC777 : No one airline has 23 787-8 yet. ANA has 20 and has 16 more to go as they have 36 787-8 on order.
215 Stitch : JL has 25 787-8 on order with 10 delivered (#2 on the delivered list behind NH).
216 Post contains images PHX787 : Sorry for not being specific with words. I was meaning to say who has 23 orders, and JL has the 25, so I guess that's who I was meaning to say. Thank
217 KarelXWB : In another thread about Air India, it was said the Indian carrier will use both VT-ANN (LN90) and VT-ANO (LN91) to start the SYD-MEL service from Augu
218 hkcanadaexpat : Looks like best month we've hard since the return to service. > 3 delivered already + 2x ANA + 1x JAL + 1x CSN + 1x ILFC(NOR) + 2x AI = 10 with pot
219 United787 : Do you know if LN 90 delivered yesterday? With AI's money woes, anything is possible...
220 Stitch : The planes are already financed by the US via the Export-Import Bank, so making the delivery payment should not be an issue. What AI has been trying
221 Post contains links KarelXWB : Hainan LN73 scheduled for a customer flight today. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/369838290624458753
222 NYC777 : flyaway should be tonight.
223 Post contains links KarelXWB : The C1 flight is scheduled for today. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/369842151946850304 /edit Looks like a C2 after all. http://twitter.com/matt
224 WarpSpeed : Its my understanding that AI has sought bridge financing from private sources rather than use direct Ex-Im Bank loans to support the purchase of the
225 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : C-1 was on the 17th and the C-2 was scheduled for yesterday evening but didn't make it. Airborne now on the C-2: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B
226 av8ornta : Quick question- on the UAL mainline fleet tracking website it shows 10 787-8s scheduled for delivery in 2013, but we've been told to expect only 8 thi
227 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Got airborne but landed almost immediately: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE430
228 Ronaldo747 : I wonder if Boeing currently pushing too hard getting the planes into the air. The recently increased abruptions of the Bx/Cx-flights, I don't like th
229 United787 : I wondered the same - or could be QC has slipped during manufacturing - or could be a result of planes sitting on the ground so long... whatever it i
230 kanban : could it be that all the attention of todays electronic media and A.netter micro examination is affecting the birds self confidence.
231 Confuscius : Especially the terrible teens (Ln 13 -19), being overweight and unwanted.
232 MDW22L31C : I see the Boeing has a 787 at SBD for test since the 8/14.
233 Post contains links ual747-600 : QTR A7-BCG on the way to DOH. Is A7-BCF ready for delivery from CHS? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR3787 UAL747-600[Edited 2013-08-20 15:19:36]
234 NYC777 : Nope not yet.
235 hkcanadaexpat : > 7 delivered already. > N27908 (Charleston) - End Oct 2013 Delivery > N26909 (Charleston) - End Dec 2013 Delivery > N26910 (Charleston)
236 Post contains links KarelXWB : http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/370069357969174528
237 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : According to the document, one ship set represents one aircraft. It's my understanding that one ship set contains all these pieces in this picture: 1
238 Post contains links KarelXWB : Maybe LN100 at the end of the month or in the beginning of next month, buy CZ has reshuffled domestic 787 service, probably to free up an airframe. h
239 Post contains links KarelXWB : Another early bird has been towed to the EMC. Look for the 2 ANA tails in this picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bernieleighton/9561382772/ It mus
240 hkcanadaexpat : Revised schedule requires one new frame (B-2732) in service on Sep 1st so expect a delivery later this week or early next. No other frame needed base
241 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : JA822A (LN110) is at the Delivery Center: http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/370253386500669440
242 Post contains links tortugamon : Looks like this one went ok: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...0/history/20130821/1700Z/KPAE/KMWH Delivery flight: http://flightaware.com/live/f
243 Post contains links KarelXWB : Another flight for JAL ZA176 is scheduled for today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20130821/2130Z/KPAE/KPAE
244 NYC777 : Aeromexico should be taking their other 2 787s next month.
245 Post contains links tortugamon : Anyone know what was the 78th? Fun with numbers. We just delivered our 78th 787. #Boeing http://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/status/370321124707401729
246 DeltaB717 : Is there any word on when the JQ might fly?
247 NYC777 : 77 - Air India ZA242 78 - ANA ZA121
248 NYC777 : Sometime in September, probably early September.
249 817Dreamliiner : It may have been VT-ANN, it was supposed to be delivered on the 19th.
250 tortugamon : I thought you already had both of those delivered on your sheet and it was reading 77. I guess I saw that wrong because it now shows 78. 5 deliveries
251 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : BA G-ZBJC (LN114) has a flight crew on board for another B1 attempt: http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/370559311778308096 Whats up with this aircraf
252 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Yes and so far so good, actually made it up to altitude: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE452
253 Post contains links KarelXWB : ANA JA823A (LN120) delivered. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...7/history/20130823/0000Z/KPAE/RJTT
254 Post contains links tortugamon : This is what a 7-hour flight within one hour flying distance of LAX looks like... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE5 ZA004 is doing something sim
255 Post contains images DeltaB717 : Awesome, can't wait! Thanks heaps
256 KarelXWB : I read somewhere that it takes 3 months to fly test an engine upgrade, and it takes another month for certification.
257 Post contains links KarelXWB : Alright, Xiamen Airlines is about to firm its order for six 787s. http://www.air-journal.fr/2013-08-23...r-pour-xiamen-airlines-581893.html I believe
258 hkcanadaexpat : We all speculated that but it doesn't necessarily add up. Article says Xiamen Air expects first delivery on 25 Jul 2014. LN 149 should be ready for d
259 KarelXWB : All Chinese deliveries will take a while. LN131 (HU) for example won't be delivered until 2014.
260 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : CC-BBE (LAN #4) coming back from Texas fully painted. No idea where they'll put her as the flightline is full. Perhaps they've moved VT-ANO (Air India
261 Post contains links KarelXWB : CZ LN93 delivery flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...C/history/20130823/1700Z/KPAE/ZBTJ
262 7673mech : Can anyone confirm ILF/NLH Line 112 delivers today and fly's away this weekend?
263 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Royal Brunei's first 787 in now on the flightline http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/370916120733028353
264 tortugamon : Is it even in paint? tortugamon
265 KarelXWB : I think so, Matt saw the registration (V8-DLA) which is applied during painting.
266 Post contains links KarelXWB : Here is the answer, Qatar LN109 is on its way to FTW again: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20130823/1930Z/KCHS/KFTW Odd.
267 NYC777 : they sent ZA243 (VT-ANO) back to be -repainted because the wrong paint was used. I don't know if it's the same issue with this airplane or perhaps th
268 Post contains links ual747-600 : Flightaware is saying that it was Qatar A7-BCF. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE467 UAL747-600
269 Post contains links iowaman : Due to length, this thread will be archived. Part 19 is available here: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 19 (by iowaman Aug 23 2013 in Civil Aviati
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