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User currently offlineAirT85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Hey Y'all
This all comes from my father who is a mechanic for Delta. He inturn got it from his boss.
We all know Delta announces lay-offs tomorrow. Part of this stems form the fact that about 100 planes are being parked tomorrow in the desert. Delta wll park all of the 727s, all of the MD-90s and 3 MD-11s. The 727s will not return and the MD-90s and MD-11s will come back as needed. Delta Express will also park some 737-200s. No one is sure what will happen to Shuttle. This could all change by tomorrow but this is what he was told by his boss. Ill miss the 727!
Tony

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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

Those mighty 727's will surely be missed.
Chepos



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User currently offlineDeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

Wow...all of the 727s...I never really liked em anyways...and just think what it will do for their avg fleet age!  Big thumbs up Seriously though, that's really hard to believe. About the MD-11s, do you think that they will downgrade the MD-11 from ATL-LAX? I always fly that flight and love the MD-11...I guess it depends if they cut the LAX-NRT route. Does anyone know all of the routes that they are cutting? I heard that they are cutting/postponing Zurich, Tel Aviv, and Dubai.
DeltaOwnsAll


User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

Hi:

Finally we have news from Delta. I'm sure about the retirement of the 727-200 Adv, now step by step Delta will replaced the 727-200Adv by newest 737-800 with less cost. By by 727, we'll miss you.
About Delta Shuttle, it's probably that Delta maintain a limited schedule for a short time.

RJ_Delta.


User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5049 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

Why is everyone in a rush now to park their old jets?

i know load factors are down...but why are they specifically targeting older jets like the 727...DC10...etc

They could probably use their 727s because the capacity is less than their bigger jets. Why don't they park some 767s?

And NWA, with all their old dc9s, they could just park the whole airline!



Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

Hi again:

Are you sure about the temporally ground of the MD-11? I think that Delta will need to serve the routes to Asia, the high density routes to Europe and to restart the Middle East routes.

RJ_Delta.


User currently offlineDeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

They park the old jets because they are less efficient (fuel economy, maintenance, etc...) than the newer jets.

User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

Bruce:

Park the 767s? Are you crazy? The 767s give to Delta excelent results join with the 737-800, 757 and 777.

RJ_Delta.


User currently offlineB747-337M From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

Uh huh. I'll believe it when I see it.

User currently offlineDl727-200adv From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

All of the DL 727’s are to be retired tomorrow? I knew it would be a sad day when the last 727 left DL’s fleet but I never imagined it would be anything like this. I just flew on DL’s N8889Z ship #440 a week ago today on flight 2184 MEM-CVG. It was a beautiful flight however there were only about 4 revenue passengers on the flight. The head flight attendant let everyone sit in first class so I sat in 1A. I had no idea that would be my last DL727 flight. The reason I was on that flight was because I had been trying to fly out to Calgary Canada on 9-11 & I was airborne aboard N144DA a 767-300 flight DL571 CVG-SLC during the terrorist attack. We were diverted to KCI & I was stuck there for two days before renting a card & driving to MEM where I stayed with friends for another several days before flying home on 9-16. What a sad sad end to the DL 727 fleet. What will become of the DL727 flight & cabin crews? With the bailout being approved you’d think the airlines could better afford to take a more gradual approach to scaling back service. All those who were involved in perpetrating the terrorist acts on 9-11-2001 and those who support them had better be brought to justice soon!

God bless the victims of 9-11-2001!
DL727-200adv


User currently offlineBhopsde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

I don't understand how some think this is unbelievable, there has been A LOT of unbelievable events lately...the tragedies in NY,DC,and PA, and then mass lay-offs, to suddenly retire aircraft which were already to be retired doesn't surprise me.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

That seems like a huge number of aircraft, all of the 727S plus the MD90? We are talking about a cutback in excess of 20% which seems to be what most airlines are doing.

It is likely that some MD11s may be pulled from service as DL has suspended flights to the Middle East for the time being.

As for DL Express, which has a niche in the Florida vacation market, if people are not interested in flying to vacation destinations, it would make sense that operations for this division would be affected.



User currently offlineCo LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

Out with the 727, in with the 717 from AirTran. I cannot stand those MD88's DL uses. Too cramped.

User currently offlineDelta737 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 516 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

Huh?

I'd like to know where that information came from because I've seen nothing on that (this is being entered from the ATL pilot crew lounge).

I seriously doubt the validity.

Doug Taylor
Delta


User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

While I hate to use superlatives, I'd have to say this is pretty close to impossible.

Co LITE... take your rhetoric somewhere else please. If you enjoy riding the DC-9-95, that's okay with all of us, but that's not relevant to the topic of discussion here.



It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
User currently offlineSkyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

Just in case you are interested, I like AirT85 have a relative that works for Delta. Unlike AirT85 this is what my husband has been told(he, if you guys don't know by now is a supervisor in Customer Service and his info comes from the Station Manager and company teletype).There aren't enough 737's now to man all the Express flights so they haven't been told of any of their flights being cancelled(yes, he works for the Express division), MD-11's are needed for the Pacific service, there really aren't enough777's for that, some of the MD-90's yes and the 727's yes. As far as employee staffing, there aren't any scheduled for furlough right now. Instead they are going to offer early retirements and leave of absences as incentives to not have to further reduce their staffing. They also anticipate many of their pilots that are in the reserves being called up to active duty, which of course would reduce any excess there. By the way, none of this will definately happen Monday, the teletype said that if if happens it would be by Wednesday. Let us all hope that none of this does happen but if it has to, let if not be for a long time. God bless America!

User currently offlineBhopsde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

Well although you may have been entering your comment from a DL pilot lounge...the employees at DL as of now (see time of this post) still have not heard what sort of staff reductions will take place either, so I would imagine that an aircraft accelerated retirement plan which may happen with this staff reduction wouldn't be announced until DL has ironed-out the specifics. I have first hand experience that the airline workers are sometimes not the first to hear what is happening/has happened at their company.

User currently offlineAirT85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

I am not lying to you about any of this. This is what my father was told by his boss. This information came to him Friday so it could have been updated. BUt apparently yes the 727s are being parked and MD-90s too. He was told 3 MD-11s are being parked but i'll have to ask him on that. And i would like to clarify the fact I AM NOT LYING TO YOU. K? so unless you work for Delta, please be quiet =)
Tony


User currently offlineSkychuck From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

wow! some people get real bitchy in here! This is the "perfect" time to get rid of older and oddball planes in your fleet. fleet rationalizaion plays a big part in airline finances. look how many types US had for awhile.
as opposed to WN, which has 4 variants of the same basic type. (737-200/300/500/700)


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

In other Delta news, the new issue of Time reports that several Delta flights may have also been targets for a second wave of attacks several hours after the attacks in NYC and DC. And flights at another unspecified airline were possible targets as well. So we can thank the FAA for shutting down the system, so more flights would not have been turned into bombs. This news comes on the heels of a report that Atlanta was a possible target on the 11th as well, so possibly Delta's own planes could have been used in an attack on Atlanta.

User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

About the DL 727-200s, people put them down, but if you were lucky enough to ride in F class, they had a nice arrangement up there, especially rows 3 and 4, behind the galley. It was like having your own little enclave, definitely a choice seating area. The F class seats were wide and really cushy too.

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8002 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (12 years 11 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Between the facts that 1) 727-200's have 35-45% higher seat-mile costs than a 737-800, 2) they don't meet ICAO Stage III noise standards and 3) are getting costly to maintain, no wonder DL is retiring their 722 fleet early.

User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (12 years 11 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1366 times:
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I thought that DL's hushkitted 722's were Stage III compliant...

User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

If Delta is retiring all of it's 727s, what will they use on the ALB to ATL and ALB to CVG routes? I sure hope it will be the 737-800 or 757. With Delta Express, they should replace their 737-200s with 737-300s.

User currently offlineAmericanmd80 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (12 years 11 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

Going along with TEDSKI what are they gonna do? I live in Rochester and the flights to Atlanta are on B727's. That means when they leave United will be the only 727 opporator in ROC.

Americanmd80



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25 Delta737 : Once again, there has been *NO* official report. An official report is due out on Wednesday. Doug Taylor
26 Jrlander : In response to the earlier post regarding the Time report: RUMOR CONTROL: AIRCRAFT SECURITY. There have been multiple media reports in recent days reg
27 Mikephotos : If Delta is retiring all of it's 727s, what will they use on the ALB to ATL and ALB to CVG routes? I sure hope it will be the 737-800 or 757. With Del
28 Tbone202 : Hi I have a question, If Delta is getting rid of their 727's, then could or will I be on one on my flight in later February 2002 flight from ROC-ATL,
29 Mikephotos : tbone202, Well, if they do retire the 727's then (of course) you won't be on one but currently the sked for Feb '02 still shows B727 on the ROC-ATL ro
30 Dalmd88 : to AirT85: Just because your Dad's boss said something doesn't make it a fact. I also work at the TOC in ATL. The rumors are flying every day. My take
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