KarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31 Posted (11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 15855 times:
British Airways parent IAG is about to place an order for 62 A320ceo and A320neo aircraft for Vueling, plus 58 options. Additionally, the company will secure 100 A320neo options for BA, Iberia and Vueling.
> 30 A320ceo firm for Vueling
> 32 A320neo firm for Vueling
> 58 options for Vueling
> 100 A320neo options for Vueling, British Airways & Iberia
This premature news just came in on Twitter so expect more updates to come.
QANTASvJet From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2012, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14331 times:
After years, even decades, when nothing much ever seemed to come out of first BA then IAG, the pace has certainly hotted up. More 787s and A350s for BA, then the possibility of the same for IB, and now up to 220 A320s. Note the way Willie Walsh is playing the IB (and to a lesser extent BA) unions - first by indicating he is ready to expand IB's long haul operations, but only if they stick to his plan, and now by ordering aircraft for Vueling, and with a possible follow-up, but airline for the follow-up to be decided. First the stick, now the carrot.
SelseyBill From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2013, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11081 times:
Quoting columba (Reply 9): If that order really happens that means Iberia will loose most of their European and domestic flights to Vueling.
Agree. The writing is on the wall for IB's European ops from MAD. Walsh is determined to drag the IB unions kicking and screaming into the new era in aviation, and you can't blame him. Legacy carriers are being eaten alive from below by the low-cost carriers, and from above by the ME3's, and he has to act to keep IAG alive, no matter how many Spaniards he upsets.
Hopefully the overtones of long haul expansion come to fruition, because being a prime pivotal hub for Europe to Central/ South America has to be the backbone for IB's business, in the same way that TATL is for BA.
Quality focus for L/H, low cost base Vueling ops for S/H has to be right for IB. In the long term IB will be much stronger for it.
Wonder how long it will be until we see more Vueling ops from MAD ?
francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3738 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10544 times:
I tend to repeat myelf with every new such order, but I am amazed that there are still CEO slots available. I honestly thought the lines would be completely busy until the switch to NEO-only with the flurry of mega orders lately...
[Edited 2013-08-15 02:41:15]
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
GCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1368 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10545 times:
Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 12): and surely some of those options for IAG will be replacements for the famous BA 734's at LGW
As BA operates about 100 A320 family aircraft from LHR, and they will be the priority for A320NEO replacement from the 100 NEO options (I assume the options will be able to be any of A319NEO/A320NEO/A321NEO with confirmation nearer the time they are built), I suspect LGW is either going to get A319/A320s passed down from LHR or it will change into a VY operation (to better compete with EZY et al). However, in any event, the end of the BA 734s is nigh.
KarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10330 times:
Quoting francoflier (Reply 15): I tend to repeat myelf with every new such order, but I am amazed that there are still CEO slots available. I honestly thought the lines would be completely busy until the switch to NEO-only with the flurry of mega orders lately...
Last February, there were about 300 CEO slots left. The number should be around 100 now, but there are still cancellations to come (like the Kingfisher order).
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