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Who Really Invented The Airplane?  
User currently offlineB777-777X From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2945 times:

Do you think it was Richard Pearce, Orville Wright, or Wilbur Wright.

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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

Clement Ader


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User currently offlineB777-777X From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

powered plane that could really ffly.

User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

I think there's pretty strong circumstancial evidence to support Pearse's claim.



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User currently offline310_engineer From Belgium, joined Dec 2000, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

Leonardo Da Vinci

User currently offline456 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 316 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

Huh..... There goes my historical belief.... ALWAYS thought it were the wright brothers who really invented flying.

Can anyone post some nice homepage, which (s)he recommendates of the history of flying?

Tnx in advance,
Marc


User currently offlinePmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2850 times:

The Wrights created the first "semi-practical" aircraft. They did it first. The first truly practical airplane was a Curtiss, it had an ailerons because the Wrights wouldn't license wing warping. It's a good thing they did, can you imagine warping the wing of a 747?

Peter


User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3103 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2840 times:
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You revisionists make me sick.

User currently offlineHepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

The Wright brothers were the first to fly in December of 1903. The controversy in question centered around the Wright Brothers and their archrival, Samuel Langley, who was a well learned scientist. Everyone at the time expected Langley to be successful. He had no shortage of funding, no shortage of media coverage or assistants. The Wright brothers, on the other hand, were untrained, mostly self-taught, broke, and were considered by everyone as having very little chances of getting off the ground. Well, as fate would have it, the Wright Brothers became airborne on the 17th of December, over four successful runs. When people caught word of this, they all refused to believe that the Wrights brothers could have outdone such a distinguished scientist as Langley. The Smithsonian Institute, much to their unending shame, remained loyal to Langley (who was assistant secretary), and named him as the official inventor of flight. Long after Langley passed away, the Smithsonian managed to get their hands on his original plane, had it modified to the Wrights Brothers' specifications, and put it on display as the first plane in flight. I guess the shame became too much to bear, for about 40 years later, they finally admitted to what was done, changed the display, and correctly credited the Wrights Brothers.

User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

The first object with 2 wings, and an engine that has left the ground has been built by Clement Ader.( Eole and AvionIII)
Was it a flight? Was it a jump?
Call is as you want, but it just left the ground...
And it was before 1900....
And the words Avion and Aviation have been created by Ader.
Nana...




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User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3378 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

where ader or pearce from New Zealand? "cause when I visited down under they all adamantly believed some Kiwi was first, despite a complete lack of any creadible evidence.


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User currently offlineErj190 From Portugal, joined Dec 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2784 times:


I believe the basic idea was from Leonardo D'Avinci, of course he had no way to put his idea into practice.

The first real aircraft was Brazilian's Santos Dumond, flown in France.

The 16-Bis (if I am not wrong)

Was the first airplane, because it was the first to take off by it's own means, and land, in the same manner.

(The Wright brothers designed a equipment that was catapulted)


User currently offlinePmk From United States of America, joined May 1999, 664 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

The Wright Brother's plane was not catapult launched. The film clip you are referring to was a catapult which enabled quick take offs for military purposes. ALL the Wright aircraft were capable of taking off from flat land unassisted.

Lindy field: I don't mean to be revisionist, but The Wright's were the first to TRULY fly, the others (including Langley) just fell with style. However the invention of the alieron is what made modern aircraft possible. Curtiss/Bell get quite a lot of credit for inventing it, however they only did that because the Wright's sued them for copyright infringement. Therefor The Wright Brothers were the first people to fly.

Peter


User currently offlineB744 From New Zealand, joined Dec 1999, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

Regarding Richard Pearse, here's the link to some info I posted a while ago...

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/541940


User currently offlineCazito From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2751 times:

Actually the Wright Brothers invented the glider,
Santos Dumont invented the airplane.


User currently offlineSonic99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2741 times:


Hmmm... this entire debate skirts the issue of a proper definition of the term "airplane" and of "first flight" as opposed to the concept of airplanes.

Leonardo da Vinci = concept of air flight, therefore the precursor to first flight and finally adaptation of these concepts to first practical (read actual) use - Wright brothers.

my 2 centavos

S


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