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Kenya Airways First B777-300ER  
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 15513 posts, RR: 44
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 25200 times:
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The first B777-300ER for Kenya Airways emerged from the final assembly line in Everett. Delivery of the 2-class 397-seater (28 J, 369 Y) is scheduled for mid-October while first revenue service Nairobi - Guangzhou should start from November 19, 3 times a week. Plans to operate the aircraft to Amsterdam and London have been abandoned.

KQ882 NBO0255 - 1915CAN 77W 246
KQ883 CAN2140 - 0410+1NBO 77W 246

I'm not sure which line number this is.



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User currently offlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1976 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 25039 times:

"Excuse, me miss? Your overwing door is open!" Nice bird, though!

User currently offlinejayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1033 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 24991 times:

Good to see KQ modernizing its fleet.
Any chances that we see KQ starting routes to the Americas?

Their 767s need a urgent refurbishment. When last I saw the bird, it literally had some cables running under J class floor mats and it was clearly visible. It was later "stacked" under the mat by the cabin crew.

Anyways, the 77W proved to be a very successful aircraft. Congrats to KQ and Boeing!



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6607 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 24619 times:

Hate to on it arriving in NBO with the "temporary" terminal chaos there now. I was bad enough before the building burned down.


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User currently offlineAirbusGeek From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 23062 times:

I'm sorry! But did I miss something, when did KQ order 77W?  


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 15513 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 22966 times:
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Quoting AirbusGeek (Reply 4):
when did KQ order 77W

In 2011, check http://www.kenyaairways.co.uk/Home/C...uire_2_Boeing_777-300_ER_Aircraft/



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27377 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 22757 times:

Don't they normally paint the rudder before assembly for balance purposes? It's not painted in the photo.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 15513 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 22629 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
Don't they normally paint the rudder before assembly for balance purposes?

I have seen it before on the BA 77W but I'm not sure why some rudders are not yet fully painted.



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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3514 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 21144 times:

Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27377 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 20884 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

China must be much smaller. There's no direct air service between China and Kenya, compared to at least 7 carriers operating nonstop service from Europe.


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7699 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 20472 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):
China must be much smaller. There's no direct air service between China and Kenya, compared to at least 7 carriers operating nonstop service from Europe.


Loads of cargo on this route. Kenya's usual export commodities outbound and of course the Kenyan business traffic importing various products inbound. 77W useful for payload. It is useful to note that Thailand is also an important route for KQ. The addon is either BKK-CAN & BKK-HKG. It helps with crew costs too. Ovenighting them in BKK for a double-banger the next day.


User currently offlineboeingrulz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 520 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 20248 times:
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Decals are now used for most disigns on tails and winglets and they can be applied after the rudder is balanced. I don't know all the details but I know that is why you see airplanes coming out of the factory without full rudder disigns.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5307 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 19782 times:

You beauty! Can't wait until she is wearing her elegant livery  

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User currently offlinewaly777 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2012, 374 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 19609 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

At the moment it is smaller, however there is a lot of trade between West Africa (Nigeria particularly) and China. It is quicker to China I believe via East Africa from Lagos, than through the Middle East. This is one of Ethiopian's key money makers as emphasised by them being the first international airline in the South East of Nigeria (traders and industrialist central).

Add to this that the Chinese is investing heavily in Africa @ the moment, so there is likely going to be very strong transfer traffic from the continent to China; the 2 East African carriers are best positioned to funnel this Traffic.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 17394 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

There is a lot of Chinese investment in Africa. Moreover, in exchange of investment Chinese building companies get a lot of contracts to build infrastructure in Africa (e.g. airports).

Finally, there are not many options

Quoting waly777 (Reply 14):
At the moment it is smaller, however there is a lot of trade between West Africa (Nigeria particularly) and China.

Which AF/KL/KQ explictly mentioned when they introduced the "Safari Express" which operates AMS-CAN-NBO-LOS-NBO-AMS.


User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Niger, joined Sep 2009, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 15454 times:

According to Titus Naikuni, KQ aims to exploit the growing China - Africa market using NBO as its hub.

If any of you have recently travelled on an intra-African flight either to NBO or ADD, you'd notice the very heavy presence of Chinamen on most flights and at both hubs. But, given the investment, particularly in terms of infrastructure, that Beijing has made in the continent, it isn't that surprising.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 18493 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 15364 times:

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Reply 16):
According to Titus Naikuni, KQ aims to exploit the growing China - Africa market using NBO as its hub.

Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago 



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User currently onlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1592 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 15123 times:

Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?

User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Niger, joined Sep 2009, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 15089 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 17):
Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago

No.



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User currently onlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 2400 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week ago) and read 14822 times:

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 18):
Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?

28 Business and 369 economy, that sounds 2-3-2 in business and 3-3-3 in economy to me, otherwise they can fit up to 420 economy seats in 3-4-3 configuration, like Air france for example in CIO or EK in the 2-class B77W has 42 Business and 385 economy (3-4-3)

I think going for less seat arrangement will help them to uplift the extra bagagge that many of those pax will carry going to Africa, that´s a very good business for KQ in CAN and BKK specially.

IMO, right now KQ is real need for some new B787 to upgrade flights like DEL from B737 to B767 or B787 and also places like CDG, BKK or maybe some new destination like the GRU (that has been rumored for a while), or start flying maybe to PEK for example.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 17):
Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago 

I think that has been the strategy for the many years now, but i´m not sure if they will are doing a good job with this, ET, QR, EK,TK are really pushing forward and I see KQ going down and not up, even NBO airport before the fire was so tiny for and old, they should have started building a whole new terminal and a new runway years ago.

[Edited 2013-09-01 12:14:32]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 15513 posts, RR: 44
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14761 times:
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Quoting LondonCity (Reply 18):
Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?

Looks like 9-abreast, unless I'm reading this map the wrong way:




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User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1906 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 14257 times:

Do we have a construction number and registration for this one? I see it's should be 5Y-..FA

User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 894 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 13762 times:

very nice news

At least one of the KQ wide body will have a "new car smell"

Quoting migair54 (Reply 20):
IMO, right now KQ is real need for some new B787 to upgrade flights like DEL from B737 to B767 or B787 and also places like CDG, BKK or maybe some new destination like the GRU (that has been rumored for a while), or start flying maybe to PEK for example.

Agree. But still have to wait until March 2014 *hopefully*.

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 22):
Do we have a construction number and registration for this one? I see it's should be 5Y-..FA

All KQ planes have a registration starting with "5Y-K" hence it might be 5Y-KFA

[Edited 2013-09-02 14:24:03]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 15513 posts, RR: 44
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12864 times:
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Registration will be 5Y-KFA but still no idea about the line number.


Boeing Flightline by moonm, on Flickr



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User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2715 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12512 times:

Nice to see at least one airline on the continent grow successfully. They've done a wonderful job renewing and expanding their fleet and network; I look forward to seeing more!

25 pdxswa : Anyone know the specific model number of the 77W for Kenya Airways ?
26 KarelXWB : I have it listed as a B777‑36N(ER).[Edited 2013-09-14 02:01:34]
27 Post contains images KarelXWB : Cabin pictures! J @ 2-3-2, 28 seats. Y @ 3-3-3, 369 seats
28 Viscount724 : These days, a middle seat in longhaul J class is a 2nd rate product.
29 longhauler : Wow, there's hope. 9 abreast in Y on a new build B777!
30 swallow : Their 77E's are also 3-3-3. I am glad they have resisted going to 3-4-3 on the big gal.
31 Post contains images aerorobnz : Yeah to an extent I agree, but I still enjoyed my MS flight with that configuration, and I got it for a song. That wouldn't happen if they were 2-2-2
32 Reffado : Their J and Y products look quite superior to those of JJ. J is on par with LA, but it looks way better! Too bad I probably will never have the chance
33 AR385 : I don´t think so. It has potential though for very high yield tourism but I doubt that would justify an entire airplane.
34 pdxswa : KarelXWB thanks for the info !
35 Post contains images EK413 : KQ's First 777-36N(ER) "5Y-KFA" EK8413
36 Norcal773 : This bird will look great! Thanks for the pics. Why just Two though?[Edited 2013-09-18 13:35:51]
37 Post contains links and images pdxswa : Here is another angle and the line number. View Large View MediumPhoto © Bill Shemley
38 KarelXWB : LN 1140 it is, thanks!
39 pdxswa : KarelXWB you are very welcome !
40 Post contains links KarelXWB : 5Y-KFA on the runway, still unpainted: http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/10008689995/
41 Post contains links KarelXWB : She's in paint and currently on route ARA-PAE. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130930/1900Z/KARA/KPAE
42 pdxswa : Kenya Airways first 777-300ER formally known as registration 5Y-KFA has a new registration of 5Y-KZZ.
43 KarelXWB : It's parked on the PAE flightline, waiting for the first pictures now.
44 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Here we go: 5Y-KZZ by sabian404, on Flickr 5Y-KZZ by sabian404, on Flickr[Edited 2013-10-01 14:09:24]
45 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : And already in the database too: View Large View MediumPhoto © Bernie Leighton
46 Post contains links eastafspot : Just so beautiful, many thanks for sharing The press release is available: http://www.kenya-airways.com/uploade...es/KQ_Boeing%20777%20Brochure2.pdf
47 thegreatRDU : Ok so it's operating Nairobi-Guangzhou. I am still almost certain the 77W will see LHR too.
48 Norcal773 : Beautiful bord indeed! Won't be surprised to see her in LHR too eventually.
49 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Kenya Airways released this picture: 5Y-KZZ coming out of paint. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151737711523800&l=d1cfcdad53
50 KarelXWB : She's now parked at the delivery center.
51 817Dreamliiner : 5Y-KZZ has been delivered yesterday according to planespotters.
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