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Kenya Airways First B777-300ER  
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 24576 times:

The first B777-300ER for Kenya Airways emerged from the final assembly line in Everett. Delivery of the 2-class 397-seater (28 J, 369 Y) is scheduled for mid-October while first revenue service Nairobi - Guangzhou should start from November 19, 3 times a week. Plans to operate the aircraft to Amsterdam and London have been abandoned.

KQ882 NBO0255 - 1915CAN 77W 246
KQ883 CAN2140 - 0410+1NBO 77W 246

I'm not sure which line number this is.



The picture was taken by Matt Cawby, a bigger format can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/9631457071/


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User currently offlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 24415 times:

"Excuse, me miss? Your overwing door is open!" Nice bird, though!

User currently offlinejayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1029 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 24367 times:

Good to see KQ modernizing its fleet.
Any chances that we see KQ starting routes to the Americas?

Their 767s need a urgent refurbishment. When last I saw the bird, it literally had some cables running under J class floor mats and it was clearly visible. It was later "stacked" under the mat by the cabin crew.

Anyways, the 77W proved to be a very successful aircraft. Congrats to KQ and Boeing!



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6350 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 23995 times:

Hate to on it arriving in NBO with the "temporary" terminal chaos there now. I was bad enough before the building burned down.


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User currently offlineAirbusGeek From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22438 times:

I'm sorry! But did I miss something, when did KQ order 77W?  


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22342 times:

Quoting AirbusGeek (Reply 4):
when did KQ order 77W

In 2011, check http://www.kenyaairways.co.uk/Home/C...uire_2_Boeing_777-300_ER_Aircraft/



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22133 times:

Don't they normally paint the rudder before assembly for balance purposes? It's not painted in the photo.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 22005 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
Don't they normally paint the rudder before assembly for balance purposes?

I have seen it before on the BA 77W but I'm not sure why some rudders are not yet fully painted.



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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 20520 times:

Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 20260 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

China must be much smaller. There's no direct air service between China and Kenya, compared to at least 7 carriers operating nonstop service from Europe.


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 19848 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):
China must be much smaller. There's no direct air service between China and Kenya, compared to at least 7 carriers operating nonstop service from Europe.


Loads of cargo on this route. Kenya's usual export commodities outbound and of course the Kenyan business traffic importing various products inbound. 77W useful for payload. It is useful to note that Thailand is also an important route for KQ. The addon is either BKK-CAN & BKK-HKG. It helps with crew costs too. Ovenighting them in BKK for a double-banger the next day.


User currently offlineboeingrulz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 482 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 19624 times:
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Decals are now used for most disigns on tails and winglets and they can be applied after the rudder is balanced. I don't know all the details but I know that is why you see airplanes coming out of the factory without full rudder disigns.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5013 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 19158 times:

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User currently offlinewaly777 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2012, 340 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 18985 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

At the moment it is smaller, however there is a lot of trade between West Africa (Nigeria particularly) and China. It is quicker to China I believe via East Africa from Lagos, than through the Middle East. This is one of Ethiopian's key money makers as emphasised by them being the first international airline in the South East of Nigeria (traders and industrialist central).

Add to this that the Chinese is investing heavily in Africa @ the moment, so there is likely going to be very strong transfer traffic from the continent to China; the 2 East African carriers are best positioned to funnel this Traffic.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 16770 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

There is a lot of Chinese investment in Africa. Moreover, in exchange of investment Chinese building companies get a lot of contracts to build infrastructure in Africa (e.g. airports).

Finally, there are not many options

Quoting waly777 (Reply 14):
At the moment it is smaller, however there is a lot of trade between West Africa (Nigeria particularly) and China.

Which AF/KL/KQ explictly mentioned when they introduced the "Safari Express" which operates AMS-CAN-NBO-LOS-NBO-AMS.


User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Niger, joined Sep 2009, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14830 times:

According to Titus Naikuni, KQ aims to exploit the growing China - Africa market using NBO as its hub.

If any of you have recently travelled on an intra-African flight either to NBO or ADD, you'd notice the very heavy presence of Chinamen on most flights and at both hubs. But, given the investment, particularly in terms of infrastructure, that Beijing has made in the continent, it isn't that surprising.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17825 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14740 times:

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Reply 16):
According to Titus Naikuni, KQ aims to exploit the growing China - Africa market using NBO as its hub.

Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago 



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User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1526 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 14499 times:

Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?

User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Niger, joined Sep 2009, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 14465 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 17):
Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago

No.



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User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 14198 times:

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 18):
Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?

28 Business and 369 economy, that sounds 2-3-2 in business and 3-3-3 in economy to me, otherwise they can fit up to 420 economy seats in 3-4-3 configuration, like Air france for example in CIO or EK in the 2-class B77W has 42 Business and 385 economy (3-4-3)

I think going for less seat arrangement will help them to uplift the extra bagagge that many of those pax will carry going to Africa, that´s a very good business for KQ in CAN and BKK specially.

IMO, right now KQ is real need for some new B787 to upgrade flights like DEL from B737 to B767 or B787 and also places like CDG, BKK or maybe some new destination like the GRU (that has been rumored for a while), or start flying maybe to PEK for example.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 17):
Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago 

I think that has been the strategy for the many years now, but i´m not sure if they will are doing a good job with this, ET, QR, EK,TK are really pushing forward and I see KQ going down and not up, even NBO airport before the fire was so tiny for and old, they should have started building a whole new terminal and a new runway years ago.

[Edited 2013-09-01 12:14:32]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14137 times:

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 18):
Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?

Looks like 9-abreast, unless I'm reading this map the wrong way:




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User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1835 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 13633 times:

Do we have a construction number and registration for this one? I see it's should be 5Y-..FA

User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 858 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks ago) and read 13138 times:

very nice news

At least one of the KQ wide body will have a "new car smell"

Quoting migair54 (Reply 20):
IMO, right now KQ is real need for some new B787 to upgrade flights like DEL from B737 to B767 or B787 and also places like CDG, BKK or maybe some new destination like the GRU (that has been rumored for a while), or start flying maybe to PEK for example.

Agree. But still have to wait until March 2014 *hopefully*.

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 22):
Do we have a construction number and registration for this one? I see it's should be 5Y-..FA

All KQ planes have a registration starting with "5Y-K" hence it might be 5Y-KFA

[Edited 2013-09-02 14:24:03]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 12240 times:

Registration will be 5Y-KFA but still no idea about the line number.


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User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2693 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11888 times:

Nice to see at least one airline on the continent grow successfully. They've done a wonderful job renewing and expanding their fleet and network; I look forward to seeing more!

User currently onlinepdxswa From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11266 times:
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Anyone know the specific model number of the 77W for Kenya Airways ?

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 26, posted (1 year 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10934 times:

I have it listed as a B777‑36N(ER).

[Edited 2013-09-14 02:01:34]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 27, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10643 times:

Cabin pictures!

J @ 2-3-2, 28 seats.



Y @ 3-3-3, 369 seats




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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 28, posted (1 year 3 months 6 days ago) and read 10285 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 27):
Cabin pictures!

J @ 2-3-2, 28 seats.

These days, a middle seat in longhaul J class is a 2nd rate product.


User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5158 posts, RR: 43
Reply 29, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10001 times:

Wow, there's hope.

9 abreast in Y on a new build B777!



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User currently offlineswallow From Uganda, joined Jul 2007, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9952 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 29):
Wow, there's hope.

9 abreast in Y on a new build B777!

Their 77E's are also 3-3-3. I am glad they have resisted going to 3-4-3 on the big gal.



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 16
Reply 31, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10008 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 28):
These days, a middle seat in longhaul J class is a 2nd rate product.

Yeah to an extent I agree, but I still enjoyed my MS flight with that configuration, and I got it for a song. That wouldn't happen if they were 2-2-2 I'm sure.

There are still families/groups who travel in J, so ultimately they still choose those seats. With the advent of seat selection the only ones who will get the middle seats who really don't want them are the upgrades.

Quoting longhauler (Reply 29):
Wow, there's hope.

9 abreast in Y on a new build B777!

Yep, that's worth an Amen ...Miracles do happen.. 

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User currently offlineReffado From Brazil, joined Feb 2012, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9877 times:

Their J and Y products look quite superior to those of JJ. J is on par with LA, but it looks way better! Too bad I probably will never have the chance to fly this airline.

User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6605 posts, RR: 35
Reply 33, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9825 times:
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Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 2):
Any chances that we see KQ starting routes to the Americas?

I don´t think so. It has potential though for very high yield tourism but I doubt that would justify an entire airplane.


User currently onlinepdxswa From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9469 times:
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KarelXWB thanks for the info !

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5013 posts, RR: 4
Reply 35, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9370 times:

KQ's First 777-36N(ER) "5Y-KFA"


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User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1451 posts, RR: 12
Reply 36, posted (1 year 3 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8921 times:

This bird will look great! Thanks for the pics. Why just Two though?

[Edited 2013-09-18 13:35:51]


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User currently onlinepdxswa From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8376 times:
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Here is another angle and the line number.


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Click here for bigger photo!

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 38, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8262 times:

LN 1140 it is, thanks!


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User currently onlinepdxswa From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7930 times:
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KarelXWB you are very welcome !

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 40, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7290 times:

5Y-KFA on the runway, still unpainted:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/10008689995/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 41, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6734 times:

She's in paint and currently on route ARA-PAE.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130930/1900Z/KARA/KPAE



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User currently onlinepdxswa From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6064 times:
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Kenya Airways first 777-300ER formally known as registration 5Y-KFA has a new registration of 5Y-KZZ.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 43, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6056 times:

It's parked on the PAE flightline, waiting for the first pictures now.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 44, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6047 times:

Here we go:


5Y-KZZ by sabian404, on Flickr


5Y-KZZ by sabian404, on Flickr

[Edited 2013-10-01 14:09:24]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 45, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5929 times:

And already in the database too:


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Photo © Bernie Leighton




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User currently offlineeastafspot From France, joined Jan 2008, 858 posts, RR: 20
Reply 46, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5891 times:

Just so beautiful, many thanks for sharing

The press release is available:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/uploade...es/KQ_Boeing%20777%20Brochure2.pdf



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User currently offlinethegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2311 posts, RR: 4
Reply 47, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5476 times:

Ok so it's operating Nairobi-Guangzhou.

I am still almost certain the 77W will see LHR too.



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User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1451 posts, RR: 12
Reply 48, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5408 times:

Beautiful bord indeed! Won't be surprised to see her in LHR too eventually.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 49, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4965 times:

Kenya Airways released this picture: 5Y-KZZ coming out of paint.

http://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q77/s720x720/970560_10151737711523800_891042633_n.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151737711523800&l=d1cfcdad53



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13149 posts, RR: 35
Reply 50, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

She's now parked at the delivery center.


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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2599 posts, RR: 2
Reply 51, posted (1 year 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

5Y-KZZ has been delivered yesterday according to planespotters.


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