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Turkish Aviation September 2013  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 12
Posted (11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 13286 times:

Hello there everyone,
Welcome to another Turkish Aviation thread;


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Forgive me if I start this thread a bit cloudy, I got off TK3 about 6 hours ago and still trying to stay awake... 
This was my first TK A330-300 trip, first TK 3 trip also.
Let me tell you, it is not the easiest to get up at 4:45am to catch this 7:25 leave IST-JFK flight.
Again this is my first Y experience on TK for a long time. I have been flying Comfort but this time, last minute ticket and some other budgetary issues, I had to fly Y on TK3 for work, hopefully for the last time.

TC-JNM "Samsun" had a full load today. It was a lot of firsts for me on this flight.
-I have never seen specialty meals delivered through the same door the pax were boarding, very unprofessional.
-FA asking the gate agents to check some luggage (gate check), they had no idea how to deal with it.
-I have never seen giant garbage bags piled up at the doors during the flight, no place to store it???
-I have never seen this many infants on a flight, never seen people changing diapers in the cabin???
-Never seen one of the chefs coming off from his rest in a t-shirt, carrying his uniform in his hand???
-An FA eating a piece of cheese with her hands 15 minutes before touch down and complaining that she is starving

Alll and all it was chaotic, the whole flight, constant shuttling of food, trays, bags, drinks back and forth...Slow, unattractive service. The whole plane looked like a war zone when we landed. Good luck to the cleaning crew to turn it around on time.

On the plus side, most of the front lavs were larger than what I'm used to, I even came across a handicapped lav in the Y section, very generously spaced.
Also thanks to the in flight entertainment, iphone and my noise cancelling headphones, I was happy.
The Y seats on the A333 is not comfortable for me for 10:40 hrs flight. I hope I never have to do that again.

Besides my personal blah blah, here is some questions from last month;
- From new member; Turkish777X (Welcome to a.net!!)
"In the last and days and weeks I was able to witness that the night departures to Shanghai and Peking were seriously delayed by more than 5-6 hours and waiting for the other south east asian arrivals to depart with the arriving metal. Is TK short of aircraft or what is the reason for such delays?

Does anybody have further information on the three ex-Gulfair A332? When are they arriving and is there any information on the final cabin layout?

In the past days more and more expanded bilateral rights were granted to turkey. However, there is still a huge difference compared to Emirates' rights. What are they doing better than the turkish officials? For instance, TK has desperately trying to gain further access to China and was not really that successful compared to Emirates."

-From OA260;
"Turkey’s competition board has decided to launch an investigation into Turkish Airlines, following a previous complaint filed by rival Pegasus."


Also last month I flew 4 TK, 2 Pegasus domestic flights, all on time, all full.. IST is becoming really crowded, SAW is not that far behind either. Also this is affecting the traffic to and fro from those airports, even the HAVAS busses are having a hard time keeping up.

Welcome, and please continue here with your views, news, photos, rumors, suggestions and good old sense of humor,
TK787

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User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4498 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 13145 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
In the last and days and weeks I was able to witness that the night departures to Shanghai and Peking were seriously delayed by more than 5-6 hours and waiting for the other south east asian arrivals to depart with the arriving metal. Is TK short of aircraft or what is the reason for such delays?

These delays with TK020 and TK026 have been happening quite often indeed. Again on Friday night (early Saturday morning), TK delayed the TK020 to PEK until 7 am, waiting for some inbound equipment to arrive from one of the overnight longhauls. TK020 and TK026 are of course the ideal targets for such a delay as they have 9 and 7 hours on the ground in PEK and PVG respectively anyway, so these delays can immediately be made up.

The TK B77W fleet is scheduled very tightly and any more or less extensive maintenance requirement will often result in operational issues with this subfleet.


User currently offlineSteelyman From Andorra, joined Feb 2007, 118 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 12988 times:

Recently flew QR and EK on J, and have been quite disappointed about their lounges after having experienced TK's one in IST.

Moreover, the J product on both EK and QR is not better than TK's one, when comparing 777/333 hard products of each airline.



BRGDS, Mike
User currently offlineMeCe From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12958 times:

Hi 787 thanks again for a proper tread  

As you mention early morning widebody departures always chaotic, beauce as always there no sufficent ground time, staff and equipment. Most probably your plane was one of the early arrival which has not more than 2 hrs ground time. Cleaning maintenance loading off loading all made this short time with including a ground crew shift change. TK management should not squeze timetable so much. 777 fleet alsa suffers this, in event a minimal accident, mx issuse or something else whole timetable collapses.

Last month a member asked about leased 330's; as far as I heard from a friend they sitting on a hangar in US, waiting incoming inspections. Unfortunatelly work is going very very slow; we have a plenty of time to see them.


User currently offlineboun From Turkey, joined Nov 2012, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12940 times:

I was just looking for travel options for the upcoming bayram, and I came across a tour package to Bangkok which includes Atlas Jet flights both ways. Sure they are charters but can they fly non-stop with their Airbuses? Or will they go for wide bodies again?
Here are the details of the flights for those interested:
KK301 SAW 23h BKK 12h00
KK302 BKK 22h SAW 03h00


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 12728 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
This was my first TK A330-300 trip, first TK 3 trip also.
Let me tell you, it is not the easiest to get up at 4:45am to catch this 7:25 leave IST-JFK flight.

Welcome home.

Personally I actually love that flight. Minimal traffic to get to IST. The airport is not too crowded, breakfast in the lounge is good, and you arrive at JFK where customs is quiet also before the big afternoon rush. Also I can catch onward domestic US flights pretty easy.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
In the past days more and more expanded bilateral rights were granted to turkey. However, there is still a huge difference compared to Emirates' rights. What are they doing better than the turkish officials? For instance, TK has desperately trying to gain further access to China and was not really that successful compared to Emirates."

Turkey and China only few years ago got a new bilateral. TK can run 21-weekly flights, plus cargo. That is pretty good. TK is however trying to work out a deal with Air China to allow double daily PEK services.

Its not a matter of what Turkish or UAE government are going, but they have different advantages. For example to Europe, TK can run circles around what EK can do. EK cant add more service to Germany or France, while TK can come and go as it wants. Same in Africa and most MidEast counties. Even in Asia, Turkey just signed the new bilateral with Japan that will see service more than double. Also Turkey got a new bilateral with Russia which allow further increase in the massive market.

Quoting boun (Reply 4):
I was just looking for travel options for the upcoming bayram, and I came across a tour package to Bangkok which includes Atlas Jet flights both ways.

Are these via its Kyrgyzstan venture?
I heard they would also have service to Seoul, Beijing, Colombo and Phuket in the Far East eventually via Bishkek.



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User currently offlineNorthstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 12458 times:

How many daily flights do Emirates have to IST? What aircraft?

A couple of years ago, I remember an Emirates executive saying that EK would start A380 service to IST soon and also start a flight to AYT form Dubai.

Do you guys see EK upgrading IST to A380 anytime soon? Is IST A380 ready?

Is AYT a dream for EK?



You have to have your heart in the business and the business in your heart. -Thomas J Watson
User currently offlineumit From Turkey, joined May 2009, 127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (11 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 12348 times:

I used PGS and Atlas for my short Dalaman trip last week and I have couple of notes for those trips
1) Whenever I use PGS to Dalaman , flight always made a right turn after the take off at SWA and landed thru land whereas when I take Anadolu or TK they always make a big tour over Istanbul (left turn) ,passes over Atatürk airport and lands over the see at Dalaman . Is it coincided or ??
2) Both Pegasus and Atlas cabin crew looked like they were just called from their house to help airlines out . I indeed salute for TK cabin crews after seeing PGS and Atlas crews .However, seat pitch is very good on Atlas and their 320 looked very new .


User currently offlineTK773 From Turkey, joined Apr 2013, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12300 times:

EK used to use 332/343 equipment, but these have been upgraded to 773 in the past couple of years. There are eleven weekly flights.

Personally, I cannot see EK upgrading to 388's yet. There needs to be more frequency before increasing capacity.

TK773


User currently offlinethaiflyer From Thailand, joined Oct 2007, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 months 2 days ago) and read 12187 times:

Quoting umit (Reply 7):
Do you guys see EK upgrading IST to A380 anytime soon? Is IST A380 ready?

I don't think that IST is A380 ready, not for aircraft wise (air bridge) and not for transit wise.


User currently offlineTK105 From Turkey, joined Mar 2013, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12124 times:

Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 6):
Is AYT a dream for EK?

Yes it is, for the time being!

Last time I visited AUH back in Feb13, I met with the Turkish Trade Attaché. He said that UAE proposed to lift all visa restrictions for Turkish Citizens in exchange for unlimited EK flight rights to any Turkish Airport. But Turkey refused this proposal.

Sometimes I wonder how cheap are these visa restrictions.  

If I'm not mistaken, EK used to fly 14 weekly with a daily 773 and 773/772/332 mixture, which is now reduced. On the other hand for the last 1-2 years, TK has increased frequency to double daily and upgauged the metal.


User currently offlineMeCe From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12051 times:

Quoting thaiflyer (Reply 9):




There are two gates which can accomodate A380, but I am not sure about taxiways and runways.


User currently offlineankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11905 times:

QR is adding one more weekly flight to its DOH ESB sector as of September 18th and making DOH ESB DOH 4 weekly overall.

User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11862 times:

SHGM signs civil aviatiıon agreement with Cambodia, including 5th freedom from BKK and DAC to points in Cambodia. We might be seeing IST-DAC-PNH soon I guess.

Source (in Turkish): http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...-154-ulkeyle-anlasma-imzaladi.html


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11799 times:

Regarding the A380, DHMI said in 2011 or so they would make 7 airports capable of handling ADG VI (A380 & B748) category aircraft.
So whether IST is ready today or not I dont know, but the plan is certainly to be able to handle it.



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User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 months 19 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 12):
SHGM signs civil aviatiıon agreement with Cambodia, including 5th freedom from BKK and DAC to points in Cambodia. We might be seeing IST-DAC-PNH soon I guess.

Oooh ... I like that! DAC-PNH or DAC-SGN would be interesting links to have!  

In last years schedule, the TK used to sit about 9 hours in DAC ... and I hoped for a SGN route then. Looks like TK thought something along the lines - but for PNH. I know some people who travels this route (DAC-PNH) for business and currently go via BKK - they'd love this route if it happens!


User currently offlineTurkish777X From Germany, joined Aug 2013, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 months 16 hours ago) and read 11576 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 1):
These delays with TK020 and TK026 have been happening quite often indeed. Again on Friday night (early Saturday morning), TK delayed the TK020 to PEK until 7 am, waiting for some inbound equipment to arrive from one of the overnight longhauls. TK020 and TK026 are of course the ideal targets for such a delay as they have 9 and 7 hours on the ground in PEK and PVG respectively anyway, so these delays can immediately be made up.

Today TK1985/6 flights were swapped from the regular leased 9W 777 to 2 737 Boeing aircrafts.
Is it simply possible to send two 737 instead of a 777 with respect to slot restrictions at LHR?

Moreover, TK is increasing its tringular IST - KGL - EBB route to six weekly.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11350 times:

And TK sponsors another team. This time Aston Villa for the 2013/2014 season.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlinePbb152 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 613 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11346 times:

Does anyone have insight as to how the IAH flight is doing? It has been a few months since it started and is 6x weekly now. Any news on potentially going to a daily flight?

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 19, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11323 times:

IAH Load factors -

Apr - 75.4
May - 88.3
Jun - 92.2
Jul - 91.3

It should be daily with the S14 schedule, but I've also heard rumors of switch to A340 however. 77Ws are needed more in the Far-East.



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User currently offlinePbb152 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 613 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11312 times:

Wow, those loads are great. Not sure of the yield, but I would assume it is strong as well. Can't say as I would mind seeing another A340 at IAH. It has been a while since we have had a regular A340 flight. I love 777W's, but we have quite a few of those from our international carriers right now. The A340 would add a little flair to the IAH lineup. Bring it on TK.

[Edited 2013-09-05 20:05:36]

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11274 times:

Yields are pretty trashy. Much of the summer loads were filled with introductory fares trying to gain marketshare.


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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (10 months 4 weeks ago) and read 11013 times:

I see that the TK used a 77W to take the Olympics committee to Argentina non stop. LED to EZE.
Any idea if it will stay there till the return? How can the very busy TK 77W fleet afford to take one frame off rotation?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10645 times:

A little story about Turkish Airlines "TK 1933" fragrance.

Creation of the scent was multi-year endeavour, with the finalist selections enduring a 15-month period of extensive research and testing involving customers.

The winning scent evoked feelings of trust, peace, happiness, serenity and pleasure amongst the test group.


Turkish Airlines new brand smell brings a sense of relaxation and happiness
http://www.airlinequality.com/news/tk1933.htm

=



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10579 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 23):

Oh no!! I was going to reply "Can't wait to smell the roses.."
Then I read the article, "...created by the international perfume company, MG Gulcicek...."
Please say it isn't...rosewater.


25 TK105 : DHMI Passanger Numbers for August 2013 has been published on its web site. - IST keeps the pace with 15% growth - ESB is increasing its performance wi
26 Post contains links TK787 : TK to start SAW-TLV, bringing up the number of TK flights between Istanbul and Telaviv to 46 weekly. http://airlineroute.net/2013/09/09/tk-tlv-w13/ I
27 Post contains links TK787 : This is cool! TK to open up stores at airports where you can shop with M&S miles; http://kokpit.aero/ugur-cebeci-thy-magazasi-aciliyor (in Turkish
28 TurkishSky : 53 with the new SAW flights. Up to 8 daily between 2 cities...
29 LAXintl : I was looking at some US DOT reports and noticed the JFK-IST has become the largest US-Africa/Middle East airport pair in 2012. Previously this title
30 Post contains images ASA : The growth rate is probably not very meaningful as the flight frequency probably changed between the comparison periods. But even then, with just wee
31 TK105 : I'm surprised as EK "now" has 2 daily A388 and 1 daily 77W (via MXP) to JFK. I'd have expected DXB-JFK to be on top of the list. Can you share us top
32 TK787 : It is still hard to believe DL and UA can't make this route work.
33 LAXintl : Here were the Top-10 routes in 2012 between USA and Africa/Middle East. Ranking - Airports - Passengers - Growth - Load factor 1. JFK-IST - 891,759 -
34 emrecan : IST in Africa/Middle East ?
35 777way : According to CNN's 'Inside the Middle East' and 'Middle East Business Report' shows, yes, they recent showed Istanbul as the culinary capital of....t
36 LAXintl : The US DOT classifies the world into 3 geographic areas. Atlantic, Latin and Pacific. Then the Atlantic is further divided into smaller sections inclu
37 Post contains images ASA : Number 5 missing? or typo?
38 Post contains links OA260 : Turkish Airlines privatization not on the agenda, authority says Claims that the sale of 49 percent of Turkish Airlines shares would be finalized this
39 TK787 : The news that it might happen moved the stock price 10% in the morning, but ended the day 0.6% lower.
40 LAXintl : Whoops... 5. EWR-TLV - 499,979 - (-1.5%) - 87.6%
41 ASA : wow ... NYC-TLV is really a big market. Is TK getting a piece of this pie as well? So ... the airline wise ranking is something like: 1. TK 2. EK 3. L
42 Post contains links tozbek : By the way. Turkish Cargo starting to fly Istanbul Ataturk-Singapore Changi airport with Airbus A330-200F's: http://kokpit.aero/turkish-cargo-singapur
43 TK787 : Great news. What is the number of 332Fs up to now? 4 owned (1 more arriving next year) and 2 leased?
44 boun : Atlas Jet leases CS-TRI from Hifly for Hadj operations. Maybe we can see the aircraft on scheduled services or ETS charters before that.
45 Northstar80 : what is it??
46 boun : An A330-300
47 Turkish777X : They have 5 owned frames in their fleet. The latest one just arrived a few days ago. Moreover, they have two leased ones from MNG Cargo and MASKargo.
48 Turkish777X : TK plans to introduce a new menu on their international flights from next months on. Some key facts: more options available will be available and pass
49 LAXintl : TK have appointed a new global add agency. Miami based Crispin Porter + Bogusky replaces Turkish agency Alametifarika. Also last week TK opened its pr
50 Northstar80 : It was expected, Alametifarika took part in the Gezi demonstrations and THY is very pro-government. During the Gezi demonstrations, after Alametifari
51 Post contains links boun : According to airporhaber, TK has made a KAP announcement about opening 8 new routes. 2 in Russia, 1 in Italy, 4 in Algiers and 1 in Turkey. Link to fo
52 777way : wasn't one phased out?
53 MeCe : Hi all, Heard that wet leased Jet's 777 will be converted to dry lease soon. It means that we can see them every route -most probably on gru-eze.
54 Northstar80 : Once again bringing in more inconsistency to the already chaotic fleet
55 Turkish777X : Why further inconsistency? They already are in the fleet, but just with JET pilots flying the birds. I think its a good move and will improve flexibi
56 Post contains images TK105 : Some short notes from my recent trip to GYD with J2 on A320: - On week days, ESB-GYD flights are mostly sold out including J. It was the case for my f
57 LAXintl : At the moment the aircraft are basically fenced off on specific routes. If they are converted to dry-leases then they are subject to show up anywhere
58 777way : Air Serbia are moving ops to SAW reports airlineroute. first pic on net of new livery A320.
59 Northstar80 : Cabin wise, there is no CC on these, but there is FC. They used to fly specific routes, now as per MeCe's post, they will fly everywhere.
60 Turkish777X : This is true, however the JET birds have a better hard product for business and economy passengers than most of the TK birds (except their new 330s a
61 leftyboarder : Does anyone have any idea about the new TK uniform that was to be announced? My gut says that they came up with a much more acceptable uniform but thi
62 TK787 : You are right, I was expecting by now. I have a feeling soon we will see the "more acceptable uniform" soon. There were news that they have decided o
63 leftyboarder : You are right, although people complain about service in the US compared to Asian carriers, it still is true that the US is a service oriented countr
64 Turkish777X : I wonder whether TK would change the timing of its flights & banks to europe and asia once the new airport becomes available. Atm, there are two v
65 LAXintl : Russia and Kyrgyzstan agree to new bilateral expanding services between them. Why do I post this here? Its good news for Pegasus and its subsidiary as
66 777way : More flights between Pakistan and Turkey allowed, no details out yet, I think PM is in Ankara visiting..
67 tk1244 : Hope that it is more than only increase in frequency.
68 Turkish777X : That's more than overdue. TK has been waiting for so long to go for at least double daily on their KHI & ISB services. This would give quite some
69 777way : Apparently temporary according to a blog site, due to not getting rights at IST, why? its the same airline rebranded or is the larger aircraft an iss
70 LAXintl : Probably slots. IST is very busy, and virtually no free daytime slots. Go ask LH, even they have been unable to change frequencies around.
71 Yakamoz : Hello everyone Two questions; 1) Does TK fly to Sebha (Libya) or is it still suspended? 2) Does anybody have details about number of destinations by r
72 Post contains links leftyboarder : Check their quarterly presentations (e.g. the 6th page of http://www.turkishairlines.com/downl...esentations/sunum_haziran_2013.pdf shows the breakdo
73 Post contains links Turkish777X : It is offical now, really good news for TK. Up to 14 frequencies that can be divided among Karachi Islamabad and Lahore. I hope TK simply goes daily
74 ASA : Anyone knows how many frequencies are allowed between Bangladesh and Turkey bilaterals? Where can I find that out? I'm guessing, soon, there will be
75 Turkish777X : The bilateral of 2010 says up to 14 frequencies for carriers on each side. However, the increase in frequency to double daily is unrealistic in my op
76 Post contains links LAXintl : Pegasus chief commercial officer says the company is looking at adding flights to London Gatwick (currently operate at STN), plus additional destinati
77 Post contains images bahadir : Therefore I think TK is dilluting the US market for themselves. I think you can see this route to go to A330-200 if the yields will support it. No ma
78 Post contains links and images ASA : EK calls in at BOS ... starting 2 months before TK Emirates Announces Boston (by behramjee Sep 19 2013 in Civil Aviation) Is this going to intensify c
79 TK787 : I just paid $330 at JFK last month. I guess they adjust it according to demand. Bon Voyage. Probably, but TK serves all these secondary markets and p
80 Turkish777X : Nihat Özdemir the of CEO Limak Holding said during a summit that they will start with construction works of the 3rd airport in Istanbul around May 20
81 TK787 : Let's hope so. I will start the thread on May 2014 with this in mind.
82 TK105 : Another 6 years to go ?!? How will TK and IST sustain this magical growth ? If missed, some other player will capitalize this opportunity. We have to
83 Post contains images cuban8 : I'd love to see IST get a fourth runway and will be very sad when/if the authorities decide to shut down the airport in a decade or so. The approach
84 TK787 : Still in the US being retrofitted, almost two years now. By the way, I just wanted to share a personal story with DL (my home airline) DL has been ta
85 Turkish350XWB : I do not believe that 6 years will be enough. From what i read i have the impression that there are some planning mistakes regarding the location (bi
86 Post contains links TK787 : This is my post from April 13th, 2013; Some crazy numbers.... I read part of the CED report ( Cevresel Etki Degerlendirme) on the 3rd. Istanbul repor
87 cuban8 : North South direction makes a lot of sense since most of the winds over Istanbul come from the Black Sea or the Marmara. But why would they use a non
88 LAXintl : 60m is really the standard these days. Look at FRA, DXB, ZRH, SIN, HKG, MUC, NRT, JNB, JFK, etc.. 45m is considered the minimum allowed under ICAO 4C
89 Turkish777X : Friends, Turkey has decided to award a huge military contract worth 3 bn dollards to China. This could mean, as it was in the case with Japan after aw
90 Turkish350XWB : Thanks for reposting. Some numbers seem to be mistakes... Would be nice!! Besides PEK, PVG and CAN, AF has Wuhan in its network, KL has Chengdu, Hang
91 Turkish350XWB : Ah and LH in addition has Nanjing, Qingdao and Shengyang. Let's see what will come for TK if it realizes.
92 Turkish777X : I hope they only stick to Islamabad and Karachi. Daily service to these two would be better in order to attract more passengers than having 7 weekly
93 Turkish350XWB : They won't. They will launch LHE according to aircraft availability.
94 mercure1 : Story in French media that TK service to Luxembourg which commenced in June is seeing great success. Already flights have load factor of excess 80%, s
95 Turkish777X : Awesome news!!! I really wonder what TK thinks about their JET 777s. One again needed to turn back right after take off, I hope it was not again due
96 Post contains links TK787 : Please continue here: Turkish Aviation October 2013 (by TK787 Sep 30 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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