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"Chances Of Ansett Flying Are Growing"  
User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

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Chances of Ansett flying are growing says Combet

Source: AAP|Published: Wednesday September 26, 9:22 AM



Unions were willing to negotiate on employee issues in a bid to get Ansett back in the air, ACTU secretary Greg Combet said today.

However, Mr Combet said pay cuts for staff were not an "attractive" option.

The chances of Ansett flying again were "growing each day", with at least two rescue plans put forward to achieve this, Mr Combet said.

Administrators have proposed the government waive some fees and charges and provide a guarantee on tickets for passengers flying with a resurrected Ansett.

The union's own proposed rescue plan involves the administrators drawing up a viable business, backed by federal government funding.

Mr Combet said the Howard government needed to publicly acknowledge it wanted Ansett back in the air and offer some sort of financial support.

"To date, the government hasn't made that commitment," he told the Seven Network's Sunrise program.

"They are being asked to provide a guarantee and to waive some fees and charges by the administrators.

"That's the sort of thing the government is going to have to do to save jobs and get this thing kick-started."

Mr Combet said the union should not have to make concessions in regards to staff, but was willing to negotiate to save jobs.

About 16,000 Ansett employees were forced out of work when the airline collapsed almost two weeks ago.

"This airline hasn't collapsed because of the employees," he said.

"It's not their pay and conditions that have led to this problem, it's been mismanagement and poor government policy making.

"We are prepared to sit down with people to make sure it is a viable airline that can get in the air, the staffing numbers are right, the productivity and efficiency issues are addressed.

"But we're very determined to protect people's pay and employment conditions in the process."

He said pay cuts were not something the union movement would consider favourably.

"I don't think its fair to ask the employees to do that," he said.

"We're prepared to sit down and negotiate ... but just a simple solution of saying that we've got to cop a pay cut is really not very attractive."

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COOL~~~~~~~~~~~  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

Until Mr. Combet realises that AN was grossly overstaffed and accepts there'll have to be job
cuts in the thousands.. I don't think AN will fly again =(



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User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Well,

AN's will have 11 A320s, potentially all up by the weekend according to the ABC - just confirmed.

Cheers,

Justin


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

At an industry average of 100 staff per aircraft, that's equivalent to 1,100 jobs. How can they be operational though when no one wants them (the aircraft)? AN can't fly on its own account - it's bankrupt. So who's going to operate them?

User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

Ceilidh. Stop asking questions and READ the bloody news!!

Geez you must have a high distinction in the subject "how to criticise without your brain"!



User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

ABC Net Online :

Ansett set to return as Govt strikes deal

An agreement has been reached between Ansett and the Federal Government on the future of the collapsed airline.

Five planes will fly from Saturday.

The Government will guarantee to return ticket prices if the service is not provided.

The guarantee lasts 12 weeks.

No other government money will be provided.



User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Here are some sites to support Ansett.

"Gone Under" http://www.keitharmitage.com/samples/Misc%20-%20Gone%20Under-Keith%20Armitage.mp3 This song goes to the tune of Men At Work's Man from Downunder.

"TripSwap" AN FA website http://www.tripswap.net/
"Ansett Stars" http://fly.to/ansettstars
"Ansett Central" http://www.geocities.com/ansettcentral/others.html
"Save Ansett" http://www.saveansett.com/messageboard.html
"Keep Ansett Flying" http://www.ansettworkers.main-page.com/
"Ansett Pilots Association" http://www.apa.asn.au

Don't know about this one, but
"Punch Gary Toomey" http://www.dc8p.com/html/boss.html (ID is 60524)
- I don't actually hate Toomey, he's been very unlucky. Where's Cushing been?

Cheers,


User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

Does this mean that I can book Ansett flights on the Galileo CRS? Or maybe book online (the ansett.com.au site is limited to only press releases)? Or just ring them up and book a ticket with them?

Or is it just for those who already have an Ansett ticket??

Thanks

Jimmy


User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

With QF to day announcing 3x737s, 6x767s and
3x747 from international to domestic by the weekend,
one would have to ask how long Ansett 2 will survive.

Wirraway


User currently offlineWirraway From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Ansett 2 will be operated as no-frills, no catering and
will have 4 fare structures according to Sky News.

4 aircraft by Sat, 5 by early next week and 11 up
by 2 weeks.

Wirraway


User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Jimmy,

Details are still sketchy. Why not ring 13 13 00?

In other news, New Zealand's Hubbard Foods is calling on New Zealanders to save Air New Zealand with ads in the Thursday newspapers.

http://images.tvnz.co.nz/news/generic290/airnz_hubbard_ad_290.jpg

http://onenews.nzoom.com/news_detail/0,1227,59671-1-7,00.html

Cheers,

Justin


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9210 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2144 times:

No catering at all??? When will they resume the Food Service?

User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

As Transport minister said, this is NOT the rebirth of Ansett (yet)... all the government is doing is to keep Ansett flying until the administrators find a buyer for Ansett...

So I think for 12 weeks we'll have to fly Ansett without the catering... Hope they can be up and running by the end of November...

I'll ring 131300 now and ask them about fares and all... brb

Jimmy


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2132 times:

A B S O L U T E L Y B L O O D Y M A R V E L O U S !!!!


**********YAY********


mb


User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Okay, after a 45min wait on the phone, an Ansett reservation staff comfirmed the following:

** Ansett will be flying SYD-MEL on the hour, every hour from Friday using its A320s.

** All ticketing must go through Ansett, therefore no travel agency will be able to issue the tickets.

** All the details for the flights (ie frequency, fare structure, ticketing etc) will be released on Thursday 9AM AEST.

** At the moment it is unclear whether Global Reward points will be accrued on these flights.

hope this cheers all of you up!

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy Smile/happy/getting dizzy Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Jimmy


User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2132 times:

Okay, after a 45min wait on the phone, an Ansett reservation staff comfirmed the following:

** Ansett will be flying SYD-MEL on the hour, every hour from Friday using its A320s.

** All ticketing must go through Ansett, therefore no travel agency will be able to issue the tickets.

** All the details for the flights (ie frequency, fare structure, ticketing etc) will be released on Thursday 9AM AEST.

** At the moment it is unclear whether Global Reward points will be accrued on these flights.

hope this cheers all of you up!


Jimmy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

Ceilidh, (what the hell - toilet lid)

Mate I would bother you with the details, but hey - you are the worldwide expert on airlines. Flap flap.

Comment on what you KNOW.

Air Afrique anyone. (Or I must flee Africa airways)

mb


User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3189 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2127 times:

Jimmy, Thanks for making the call and waiting the 45minutes, pity I don't live in Sydney or Melbourne so I could take a flight.



Why fly non stop when you can connect
User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

I know eh!

But I'd say that they would have SYD-BNE up and running again, for us -- the Ansett supporters!!

COOLNESS!!~~

Jimmy



User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

*****YAY******

so excited!!

*****YAY******

Absolutely Ansett!!!!!!!!!!!!


wow

mb


User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

From SkyNews Australia 2 mins ago:

Ansett will start flying 24 services daily between Sydney and Melbourne, with flights for Sydney and Brisbane to follow on Sunday and between Melbourne and Perth next week.

Jimmy


User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

This is great news! Any opinions as to whether AN will stay in the Star Alliance if this return to the skies proves to be permanent?


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User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

I wonder whether Ansett will be still in the Star Alliance Round the World fares?

Does anyone know?

Jimmy


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