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Delta Delays Second ATL-GRU To March  
User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3711 posts, RR: 19
Posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4406 times:

Delta was awarded seven weekly frequencies in order to double its daily frequency on the ATL-GRU route. The proposed start date was originally set for December 15th, 2013.

http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=DOT-OST-2013-0072-0034

Yesterday (09/11), Delta submitted a HOTRAN (hours of transportation) application before the Brazilian ANAC that sets the start date for a new ATL-GRU on March 1st, 2014.

HOTRAN applications are not slot applications. It's bureaucratic procedure unique to Brazil that involves everything related to aviation infrastructure, including navigation. Slot allocations come before HOTRAN applications.

Proposed schedule:

DL58 763 daily GRU 0025 ATL 0815
DL59 763 daily ATL 2215 GRU 0950+1

http://www2.anac.gov.br/hotran/

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User currently offlinejayunited From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 980 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

Isn't the busy travel season about to start for travel between the US and Brazil? I would think that DL would need that second flight especially during the months of DEC, JAN, FEB, and MAR. Why are they delaying the second nonstop to March because by the time April rolls around demand start to drop somewhat?

User currently offlinelucky777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

Personally I prefer to think of the route as MCO-GRU with an intermediate stop in ATL to pick up a few extra passengers

 

If MCO was taken out of the equation i'm not sure any Brazil routes would work long-term for Delta.


User currently offlineflyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1739 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

When does the second JFK-GRU start?


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User currently offlinedalflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

Keep in mind that next summer 2014 Brazil is hosting the 2014 FIFA Men's World Cup. Probably that is the reason why Delta is delaying the second proposed flight.

User currently offlineuberflieger From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2754 times:
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Quoting dalflyer (Reply 4):

'Keep in mind that next summer 2014 Brazil is hosting the 2014 FIFA Men's World Cup. Probably that is the reason why Delta is delaying the second proposed flight'

no self respecting Brazilian is taking the kids to Mickey from 12June-13July'14

  



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User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1599 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

The realities of Brazil economic slowdown and currency issues likely are the cause.

The boom times look to be over, and airlines will suffer along with everyone else.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2940 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2510 times:
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I am no expert in economics, but the Real is weak yet the prices (inflation) are high, virtually canceling out any real shopping deals. I bet there are enough current seats to/from Brazil (experts would know). I think this is why United was so hot about an EWR-GIG non-stop a year ago, now they aren't.

Domestic flying in Brazil is crazy expensive.

For the foreseeable future I think everyone is proceeding with caution when it comes to Brazil, but at a projected 2.5 growth... It's growth many countries would want!



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1960 times:
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Quoting flyguy1 (Reply 3):
When does the second JFK-GRU start?

Available only by October 2014.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 7):
I am no expert in economics, but the Real is weak yet the prices (inflation) are high, virtually canceling out any real shopping deals. I bet there are enough current seats to/from Brazil (experts would know). I think this is why United was so hot about an EWR-GIG non-stop a year ago, now they aren't.

UA is a little reluctant about Brazil and South America. They can do it, anytime, and they will have to decide what to do when US returns 7 unrestricted frequencies. IAH-GIG is not enough mostly days and a lot of people have to fly with other airlines.

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 5):
'Keep in mind that next summer 2014 Brazil is hosting the 2014 FIFA Men's World Cup. Probably that is the reason why Delta is delaying the second proposed flight'

That will be a month , but to be honest, heavy demand happens during the previous two weeks and the first two weeks of the World Cup. I see that DL in fact may consider this new flight can reduce their yields during the premium IATA winter season to Brazil (in fact DEC and JAN are good ones, FEB is terrible with few days of strong demand)
This year, for example, mostly flights reach around 60-75% load factor in February.



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