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Irish 11/13: Flightfest Follow-up  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12482 posts, RR: 34
Posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 30905 times:

Good morning folks and welcome to our 11th thread of 2013.

Here's the link to 10/13, in case anyone wants to refer back: Irish 10/13: Up There Where The Air Is Clear ... (by kaitak Aug 14 2013 in Civil Aviation)

So, we've had Flightfest - and what a terrific occasion it was; congratulations to all involved. The weather looked like it might spoil things, but thankfully everything came together and a good time was had by all ... 150,000, it was said on the news. Not bad at all. Clearly, they kept the best for last, because the A380 was the most sought after participant.

It just goes to show ... a little imagination goes a long way!

We've had some interesting developments over the last month; of course, the reverberations from the UK Competition Authority's decision on FR/EI continue and no doubt, we'll still be hearing that for some time to come, if not this time next year. Here's a few other developments from the last month (not a complete list!):

- Aer Lingus launching SNN-ACE
- Aer Arann takes delivery of more ATR72s - now four -600s in the fleet.
- Aer Lingus commits to flatbeds in J from 2015
- Aer Lingus confirmed to be in talks with other carriers.
(I don't know how anyone could possibly think this thread is an "Aer Lingus fan club ...  )
- Traffic at DUB up 6% on last year; t/a doing particularly well
- Air Lithuanica to start service to DUB this Winter
- Norwegian's second 787 in Dublin for painting prior to (slightly abortive) service entry

Well, that's about it for now; have fun, enjoy and here's to some exciting developments over the coming weeks ...

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 30866 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):

So, we've had Flightfest - and what a terrific occasion it was; congratulations to all involved.

Thanks for a new thread.

Was a great show and still loads of pictures going around the net. Some very good ones from people on their balconies in the apartments along the Quays. 130,000 people have to make this the best attraction for the whole year and more importantly free for everyone. For those that followed the coverage in Aertv ( once they got the technical issues sorted out) it was a decent feed. A few mistakes on descriptions but not bad. Lots of people have questioned as to why RTE did not cover it which is indeed a valid question. Maybe they cant afford to these days !

Aer Lingus have just released a seat sale USA EUR219 each way incl taxes.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 30815 times:

I flew home to KIR last night on the RE3208 but was delayed 30 minutes. The captain mentioned that it was due to knock-on delays from Flightfest. Aircraft was EI-CPT. What would have caused these delays? ATC restrictions?


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6339 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 30795 times:

Here's a great video from Flightfest, in slow motion and high definition!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM0oieDnJNg&feature=youtu.be

Some really stunning views, my favourite being the long distance shot of A330 over the hills and the Etihad behind Poolbeg.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Aer Lingus have just released a seat sale USA EUR219 each way incl taxes.

Aer Lingus have gone from squirrels to monsters for their sale advertising!



Much more eye catching than the stuff they used a few years ago!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 2):
What would have caused these delays? ATC restrictions?

ATC restrictions were in place I think, saw a few tweets about delays caused by Flightfest.


User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1480 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 30700 times:

In the last thread I said

" B 17 and Catalina passed close by my house in close proximity a few minutes ago, presumably returning home. I reckon it will be a long time before that happens again."

How wrong can you be!
Both passed close again today, but with about an hour between them in timing.
Where did they overnight, BAL or Weston?


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 30680 times:

I am curious about the Norwegian 787s. They are on the EI register, but crews are hired from Thiland. The operator is Norwegian (by nationality) which is not an EU member, does the long haul branch of Norwegian hold an Irish certificate or can a Norwegian airline register its aircraft on the EU register? Who oversees the regulation of these aircraft? The Norwegians or Ireland?


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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1480 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 30650 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
Who oversees the regulation of these aircraft? The Norwegians or Ireland?

Irish registered aircraft, wherever based, are supposed to be Irish regulated for air safety purposes.

Norway is in the EEA, although not the EU, which creates certain entitlements and obligations in many areas including in aviation too complex to set out but findable on the web. In general, these apply the same EU rules to Norway, without giving them any role in deciding them initially. (This inconvenient truth is usually forgotten by those who suggest a Norway style arrangement for the UK, as compared to full EU membership)


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12482 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 30541 times:

Just been listening to Joe Duffy and there has been a lot of people complaining about the time between aircraft and there being insufficient entertainment during these delays; of course, the cold didn't help, but there were certainly a lot of people getting bored and leaving, particularly those with young children.

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 6):
Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
Who oversees the regulation of these aircraft? The Norwegians or Ireland?

Irish registered aircraft, wherever based, are supposed to be Irish regulated for air safety purposes.

There was some discussion some time ago about the Norwegians basing aircraft in Ireland, but I think that was just someone putting two and two together and getting five, with a dash of wishful thinking too; I think Norwegian's plan is really just to hire cheaper cabin crew.


User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1480 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 30448 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
I am curious about the Norwegian 787s

Norwegian

According to the ever excellent Irish Air Letter, which just rolled in and is now in an entirely new format, Norwegian already have a temporary Irish AOC and an application for a permanent Irish AOC is being processed.

Many thanks to the IAL team for their ongoing efforts and magazine redesign.
Unlike some we might mention, banks and airlines included, a reworked "service improvement" is actually what it says.


User currently offlineirish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 976 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 30340 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 7):
Just been listening to Joe Duffy and there has been a lot of people complaining about the time between aircraft and there being insufficient entertainment during these delays; of course, the cold didn't help, but there were certainly a lot of people getting bored and leaving, particularly those with young children.


People were moving around during the event and by its nature it was not going to hold the attention in the same way as a more conventional airshow. The riverside setting meant also that people could not necessarily see the aircraft from a distance as they lined up, so there was a bit of waiting as they positioned between runs. However safety undoubtedly demanded that separation between aircraft was preserved and that displays were at a height a bit above what might have suited the smaller machines. Remember too that these were not for the most part display pilots - also that some items had to be dropped from the lineup for operational reasons.

The radio programme you mention maybe draws some of its callers from those with an axe to grind and time on ther hands. Having attended, I thought that it was a good and novel show (free of charge too), with enough content to impress the casual onlooker as well as the enthusiast. I think a lot of credit is due to those who organised it and ensured that it went off largely as planned. The city was certainly buzzing and I heard several people around the town talking about the show in posisitive terms today.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4636 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 30132 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Aer Lingus have just released a seat sale USA EUR219 each way incl taxes.

They have also increased the Business Class fares - €899 to JFK, then €999 to BOS, €1099 to MCO and ORD and I won't even mention the scandalous amount to SFO. They obviously think the market can handle it.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1843 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 30033 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 2):
The captain mentioned that it was due to knock-on delays from Flightfest. Aircraft was EI-CPT. What would have caused these delays? ATC restrictions?
Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 3):

ATC restrictions were in place I think, saw a few tweets about delays caused by Flightfest.

The only restrictions in place were closed airspace around Dublin itself. With only 7 departures from DUB specifically for FlightFest it was not supposed to have much of an effect on DUB ops.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 7):
Just been listening to Joe Duffy and there has been a lot of people complaining about the time between aircraft and there being insufficient entertainment during these delays;

As above, axe to grind people talk to Joe. However I did expect a bit more in terms of entertainment/stalls/food outlets. I was thinking along the lines of the Tall Ships festival....now perhaps it was the time of year. I was on the SOuth Quays...I assume the North were the same?

As for the interval.....the most was maybe 10 minutes....hardly a lifetime. And they did have some no-shows due to the high winds, if all had attended it was planned for an aircraft every 5 mins.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 29898 times:

Dublin loses to Stansted as Ryanair seals deal in expansion plan

DUBLIN has lost out to Stansted as Ryanair has selected the London hub for a surge in passenger growth.

The airline said it had secured a 10-year deal at Stansted to double the amount of its passengers travelling through the airport in return for lower costs and more efficient facilities.

The agreement will account for up to 25pc of Ryanair's five-year growth plans to 2019.

The airline's chief executive, Michael O'Leary, said the deal would see more than 7,000 new jobs created at Stansted over a five-year period.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...al-in-expansion-plan-29584434.html

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Belfast hopes rise with Bombardier’s new jet

Bombardier’s new C-Series jet took to the skies yesterday on its maiden flight – bringing hope to its Belfast workforce about that the future
A loud cheer went up from a factory floor in east Belfast as the new CS100 aircraft, with wings designed and produced in the North, took off from Montréal-Mirabel International Airport for the first time.
Bombardier transmitted a live webcast of the first C-Series flight to screens throughout its facility in Belfast to share the “excitement” of the day with some of the team who had helped make it possible.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...ith-bombardier-s-new-jet-1.1529951

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 10):
They have also increased the Business Class fares - €899 to JFK, then €999 to BOS, €1099 to MCO and ORD and I won't even mention the scandalous amount to SFO. They obviously think the market can handle it.

Well EUR899 for J Class is pretty cheap compared to others. I think for what you get the fare is still good value for money.


User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1480 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 29889 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
The airline said it had secured a 10-year deal at Stansted to double the amount of its passengers travelling through the airport in return for lower costs and more efficient facilities.

Mmm STN is fairly stretched at present so that will be interesting.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4184 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 29885 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
Dublin loses to Stansted as Ryanair seals deal in expansion plan

Typical of the Indo to pitch it as an "either / or" situation.

As they go on to mention, this accounts for just a part of FR's projected growth - ie, Ryanair has additional growth opportunities, which could go to anywhere.

Unless FR can prove DUB and STN were pitched together, the indo spin is nonsense. If FR want to grow in Dublin - they will. Everyone else is, and if they want left behind, as they indeed were when EI became the "low fares, way better" carrier, and stole the march from FR by opening a slew of new european routes, then so be it.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1480 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 29864 times:

Galway Airport


A city commuter park-and-ride service at Galway Airport has been scrapped after four months.
The park-and-ride facility was attracting fewer than 100 commuters a day.


User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 29628 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 11):
However I did expect a bit more in terms of entertainment/stalls/food outlets. I was thinking along the lines of the Tall Ships festival....now perhaps it was the time of year. I was on the SOuth Quays...I assume the North were the same?

There was a run of about 6 food stalls along the canal at the Beckett bridge on the northside, as well as toilets.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 29586 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 13):

I believe STN is far down from peak a few years back, FR and EZY have reduced capacity quite a bit?



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User currently offlinegreenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 958 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 29357 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 17):
I believe STN is far down from peak a few years back, FR and EZY have reduced capacity quite a bit?

Yes - according to the CAA, STN has declined each year from its peak of 23,759,000 terminal pax in 2007 to 17,465,000 in 2012.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 29246 times:

Rumours of some changes at FR !

Ryanair aims to become more user-friendly with a simpler website and co-operation with travel agents, in a cultural revolution for the airline that pioneered low-cost travel with minimal customer service.
The airline plans to announce a website revamp at its AGM in Dublin on Friday, chief executive Michael O’Leary said.

The company may also add a handful of longer-distance routes including Israel and is open to co-operation with long-haul carriers, he said.

He made his comments at the World Low Cost Airlines Congress yesterday at London Heathrow Airport.
Michael O’Leary said he is also prepared to sell tickets via travel agents rather than solely through Ryanair’s own mechanisms, targeting one area where rival EasyJet has made the running by linking with corporate buyers to add business fliers.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2013/0918/474932-ryanair-aims/


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6339 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 29237 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
Rumours of some changes at FR !

They've just started advertising on the television again, it's probably a reaction to the poor summer but still evidence of the need to change their approach slightly.

Interesting to see a new website, the current one is such a mess that it's a miracle they manage to be as successful as they are with it!


User currently offlineVFRonTop From Ireland, joined Oct 2012, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 29110 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 20):
Interesting to see a new website, the current one is such a mess that it's a miracle they manage to be as successful as they are with it!

The current website is one of the most aggravating experiences I have had with an airline, so unfriendly to use both booking and checking in. Happy to hear they are considering changes. Also happy to hear FR understand the need for change, there is plenty of potential in the airline and I'll be watching their development with a keen eye.

MOL seems to have finally let go of his Aer Lingus aspirations and looking for long haul capacity in other places (any guesses as to which long haul operator as the need/fortitude to start negotiations with MOL?)


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27034 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 29094 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 20):
Interesting to see a new website, the current one is such a mess that it's a miracle they manage to be as successful as they are with it!

Indeed the hassle of just booking is a pain. Too many options selling everything under the sun and then again when you go back in to print off your BP. Its all very time consuming. With Winter approaching and other LCC selling Via the travel trade its in FRs interests to try to get more business. Its worked very well for EI !


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 29004 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
He made his comments at the World Low Cost Airlines Congress yesterday at London Heathrow Airport.
Michael O’Leary said he is also prepared to sell tickets via travel agents rather than solely through Ryanair’s own mechanisms, targeting one area where rival EasyJet has made the running by linking with corporate buyers to add business fliers.

Ironic that the world Low Cost Airlines Congress is at LHR. I would have thought an empty pier at STN would have been more appropriate.
I believe FR still use Navitaire Openskies which does offer GDS functionality. Allowing travel agency bookings is probably fairly cheap and easy for FR. A new website is sorely needed, although many 'new' websites are less functional and more difficult to use than before, so we'll see what happens. A mobile optimised site would be good. A free app even better.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12482 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 28664 times:

I saw a thread running at the moment about a EuroAtlantic 777 operating for EI; is this true and if so, what happened to require this?

25 Post contains links eirbus06 : Arrived at Dublin Airport as "Shamrock 1139" to operate the 139 to Boston later in the evening. Due back from boston this morning (19/09) Shamrock 11
26 Jamie2k9 : There was a fire with the fuel system in BOS the other day and the BOS-DUB had to divert en route for fuel, expect its more a case of trying to recove
27 dstc47 : According to RTE, Michael O'Leary said that FR will remove the ''recaptcha'' security feature from its website from November for individual passengers
28 Post contains links p201055r : also see http://www.independent.ie/business/i...ng-him-188-to-switch-29592819.html and http://www.independent.ie/business/o...-to-soften-its-image-29
29 BrianDromey : How is the website going to know if you are an "individual" passenger or not. In any case it really doesn't do much, FR fares are still very visible
30 RandWKOP : Sorry, I managed to mess up the link in my last post. The Times link does not want to paste.
31 Post contains links OA260 : Second time this year ! Delays after Aer Lingus reservation system fails AER Lingus passengers endured delays earlier today after the airline's reserv
32 Pe@rson : I used to work for an international aviation events company. Early on, I asked the managing partner: as this event is mainly attended by LCCs, why is
33 Post contains links and images OA260 : Aer Lingus supporting the cause !
34 ThrottleHold : Used as ammo by the Shannon whingers in 3,...2,...1,....
35 evomutant : EI are carpet bombing local radio in Birmingham at the moment, and I assume other areas they serve in the UK. If you listen for an hour, you hear the
36 Post contains links bx737 : Apparently the proposed sale of Cityjet to Intro Aviation have stalled and Air France has withdrawn the exclusivity from Intro. Could this mean that C
37 clydenairways : I see an FR flight from FAO doing circles over ORK at the moment, looks like the dreaded ORK fog strikes again.
38 Post contains links OA260 : Positive news from BA on the BHD route. We'll maintain Belfast to London route, says British Airways chief INTERNATIONAL Airlines Group chief executiv
39 shamrock321 : Both BHD and DUB are operating very well for BA, they have just trained up quite a few new ticket agents for DUB so they've no p,an to go anywhere!
40 AmricanShamrok : When I was at DUB last Sunday I noticed two BA arrivals scheduled within 10 minutes of each other. I spotted both aircraft as A319s. What is the rati
41 OA260 : Was it the 828 and 834 ? They do quite well.
42 AmricanShamrok : Yes it was. It's great they're doing well but why have two A319s going 15 minutes apart when you could send one A321 or even a 767-300 (though this c
43 tonystan : I travel on the DUB-LHR a few times a week. I must admit the 828/834 combo is an anomaly. In my experience the first one is almost always full or clos
44 kaitak : German Wings to serve NOC from CGN next Summer, once a week (Sat).
45 shamrock604 : It is to be assumed that's a replacement for the DUS-NOC LH service?
46 BestWestern : Is the BA punctuality to Ireland still poor?
47 Post contains images AmricanShamrok : I never realised EW was ending DUS-NOC...maybe it would have worked if they routed it to SNN instead On a serious note though, 4U are advertising the
48 OA260 : Well DUS and CGN are both not far apart. 40KM so they can still attract the same passengers. NOC is still very popular with the Germans. I presume th
49 shamrock321 : BA did have some issues a few months back with numerous cancelations, but I've not heard of anything other than the typical LHR related delays recentl
50 OA260 : Delays at DUB and LON Airports this morning due to fog. 30-60 mins.
51 shamrock604 : And of course EW will become Germanwings now anyway, with all non hub services rebranded as "Germanwings", so even had DUS continued to be served, it
52 clydenairways : Germanwings would be better for carrying bicycles. Cycling is one area where we should be looking to for tourism growth potential, but a lot of co co
53 Post contains links kaitak : Ryanair is said to be "positive" toward the 737 MAX, according to the airline's finance director, Howard Millar. An internal working party has been se
54 ClassicLover : Not answering the question, but their loads in Club Europe are looking healthy. I am on BA829 on Tuesday 22/10 and they've added another row of Club
55 Post contains links bx737 : I see Flybe are starting a new service between Birmingham and Knock in October http://www.flybe.com/corporate/media/news/1309/20.htm
56 Post contains links and images OA260 : Good news for NOC well until BE decide what they are going to do that is. They could do with a miracle. -- Ryanair submitted its appeal and arguement
57 Post contains links OA260 : My TR showing the BHD-LHR-ATH route. Again a solid product from BA with a pleasant experience at Belfast City Airport. No news on the new lounge upgra
58 Jamie2k9 : Aer Lingus have added a "sort by" feature to there website for routes that have many freq per day example DUB-AMS route. I fail to see it being any re
59 Post contains images shamrock350 : Don't see any harm in adding it though. I'm sure there's a huge number of people who don't care what time the flight is and just want the cheapest, a
60 OA260 : Its a handy function so can most certainly see the reason why they added it. Filtering by time/fare is a good idea. Not life changing by any means bu
61 Jamie2k9 : only for single bookings, booking your family holiday won't avoid it.
62 Post contains images SURFER : Could be some delays in SNN tomorrow with the amount of sick heads after the Liam MCCarthy returns to Ennis tonight C'mon the banner!!!
63 AmricanShamrok : Indeed! The airport is well decked out in the saffron and blue. In days past the Clare teams would make their way to/from Croker for games on the EI
64 Post contains images OA260 : Yes I remember being on one once. Flight was packed !
65 AmricanShamrok : Just heard a 772 fly over on approach to RWY06; fired up LiveATC and it appears to be a medical emergency with ambulance waiting. Aircraft is unmarked
66 Post contains links dstc47 : Return of an old problem. SIPTU are to ballot EI members over the pension issue. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...ngus-in-pensions-row-29626569.
67 Post contains links and images OA260 : Yes saw that! Thought it had been too quiet lately On a more cheerful note as reported before a while back Luxair will recommence 4 weekly services f
68 Eagleboy : Seems like the pensions deal that was agreed upon by both EI and the unions is being held up by the Pensions Board/Authority. Apparently it sets a ba
69 Post contains links OA260 : Sky's the limit for successful business in spite of some recent turbulence Once a Royal Air Force training base during the First World War, Belfast In
70 richcandy : Southend is in Essex not Kent. (sorry just being picky) Alex
71 Post contains links OA260 : Indeed I noticed that too LOL... ---- Ireland to take part in ATC strike on 10th October according to this article. Disruptions and cancellations a r
72 Post contains links Jambost : "It's expected that executives from new owners ADC & HAS Airports Worldwide will visit Northern Ireland in the coming weeks and months to talk to
73 Post contains links and images OA260 : That was one of the only good things about the place! I have been using BFS on and off since the latter end of the troubles and have seen a lot of ch
74 Post contains links OA260 : Link to article here : Aer Lingus passenger traffic falls in September The number of passengers flying with Aer Lingus fell by almost 3 per cent in Se
75 Eagleboy : Hopefully it get resolved but I doubt it. EI are refusing to have any discussion on the matter with cabin crew. EI are planning legal minimum crews o
76 kaitak : Does anyone remember Irish Sea Airways? It was a very short lived helicopter (S-61) operation from Dublin Airport to Holyhead, in the mid 1980s. I've
77 Post contains links clydenairways : Do you mean Dublin City Helicopters? http://www.irishairpics.com/photo/10...-Helicopters/?&sid=2414893513&sp=1 Never flew on them myself but
78 shamrock350 : While the other issues you mention paint a bleak picture of the way management have approached recent issues, this is an entirely separate dispute an
79 Post contains links OA260 : An update here : Aer Lingus say 40 jobs announced earlier this year will not now go ahead Aer Lingus has said that 40 new jobs announced last July by
80 dstc47 : A small award for Aer Arann, from the European Regional Airlines association, just awarded. "The BRONZE Winner: Aer Arann “Aer Arann has achieved a
81 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : I agree. Incidentally, how many cabin crew are needed for the A330-200? Are there special arrangements made for Business Class? I.e. does it have its
82 Eirules : Does this mean that the 757 services from SNN won't happen? Or will they base a crew elsewhere, maybe in USA like the IAD base?
83 Post contains links and images irish251 : You should have looked in the obvious place! View Large View MediumPhoto © Fergal Goodman
84 BrianDromey : Min crew on the A330 is 8, one for each exit. There are 2 crew up front and 6 looking after Y. Used to be 6+3, but that was reduced a few years back.
85 aerdingus : I'm kind of shocked about the EI SNN news. I know someone who's left a job here, & won't exactly be able to waltz back in if the EI job isn't ther
86 AmricanShamrok : The 757 operation from SNN is happening alright. The aircraft are being leased from Air Contractors (ASL Aviation Ltd.), flown with EI pilots and up
87 shamrock350 : Aer Lingus announced last October that a company had been appointed to produce a new video. One was uploaded to the video site Vimeo earlier this yea
88 Post contains links shamrock350 : Aer Lingus have a new fleet page, here's the 757 profile. http://corporate.aerlingus.com/companyprofile/fleet/boeing757/ Unfortunately the detailed li
89 ClassicLover : That's a shame really - it was handy when adding flights into Flight Memory so I didn't have to pay attention to the name of the aircraft. Quite look
90 Eagleboy : Can't say I like the new fleet page, looks shiny but doesn't give the same info as before. And the names/reg's of the planes was handy as a reference.
91 OA260 : The page is a nice update but like others I would like to see the original info retained. Maybe EI can add this later.
92 shamrock350 : Aer Lingus on board wifi finally begins tomorrow on transatlantic flights, they'd been stepping up testing over the past few weeks and it looks like t
93 OA260 : Yes it has been reported by flyers on other forums that they have had it on their flights recently. It took a while but better to be safe than sorry.
94 Eagleboy : Didn't realise that....last time I looked at their Fleet Info page it still had A350 delivery in H1 2015, H2 2015 and H1 2016. Hadn't been updated wi
95 Post contains links OA260 : There was a piece on the 6:1 News tonight on RTE. http://www.rte.ie/news/player/2013/1...-wifi-to-transatlantic-passengers/
96 EIDL : Fleet page now acknowledges the RE ATRs, but claims they have 35 seats!
97 Jamie2k9 : It has being know for a long period of time that 2016 will be the first year for the A350 to arrive, EI have spoke about it in there 2012 results mos
98 cipango : Was just thinking, what would the probability be that TK would begin services to ORK or SNN or even BFS/BHD?
99 EIBoston : Anyone on here know what the seat config for the old EI 747-100's was like? I was looking at the You Tube video of EI-ASJ with Capt Aidan Quigley and
100 neutral : They have increased Dublin to 10 weekly so don't see any other service from Ireland in the short term.
101 tonystan : EI-BED had 12 Executive seats on the upper deck and all Y on the main. Alas I can't remember much of ASJ and ASI. I vaguely remember EXEC being upper
102 Post contains links and images OA260 : Two quite pleasant flights with BE . Nice crews and on time. Lounge at BHD a bit tired and could do with a deep clean. I will miss the E Jet BHD-LGW s
103 EIBoston : Thanks tonystan, appreciate that. I remember my very first flight was on one of EI 747's to Boston. I ended up in the first seat behind the cockpit o
104 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : Cardiff Airport had to close for a time today after an RE AT4 burst a tyre on landing. Flight involved was RE3296 from DUB, operated by EI-CBK. http:/
105 kaitak : This is the first I've heard of that - and quite disappointed too! I had been going by Jethros listing, which still shows 2015. As reported above, Bi
106 Post contains links OA260 : Aer Lingus staff may lose up to 25% of expected pension benefits Aer Lingus staff may lose up to a quarter of their expected pension benefits due to a
107 BrianDromey : Not a nice thing at all, although I hope they would have first refusal on jobs with ACL, they are already partly trained. I really feel for these peo
108 ClassicLover : Cross fingers! That is pretty awful for the employees, but at the end of the day if EI think 4 crew can do the job, then why not really.
109 aerdingus : I know someone who has & won't exactly be able to walk back in to her old airline... The 757s have 177 seats. You need one cabin crew member per
110 Phen : Going by my experience with EI on transatlantic they will have ample time to rest. Cabin crew usually provide a quick bar service after takeoff, then
111 tonystan : From a customer service perspective 4 crew will be a disaster. 2 crew will have to remain in Business to deliver the service there meaning just 2 crew
112 Post contains images OA260 : I think because of Irelands proximity to the USA and shorter flying time EI think they can do it. I guess the proof will be in the pudding. They need
113 AmricanShamrok : There are just three rows of Business though (12 seats) so maybe one crew member would be enough?
114 Jamie2k9 : As I have said elsewhere the crew on the 757 will have to deal with 3 extra passengers each compared to 8 crew on the A330-300. If you want more crew
115 tonystan : What is the minimum crew requirement down route should there be an illness????
116 Jamie2k9 : This could happen a handful of times per year and once again its another "if" crew become ill, doesn't justify the extra cost. This will either cance
117 Eagleboy : UA and DL have 2 crew specifically for their 12 J seats. 1 works in the galley while the other serves the pax. I believe AA have 16 on their B757, I'
118 tonystan : From my own experience it seems to me that cabin crew are more likely to become ill down route than flight deck. If the 757 can legally drop down to
119 Jamie2k9 : Do EI need to improve their business class service from Shannon, its Shannon not Dublin where the high yielding passengers. All EI have in SNN is UA t
120 tonystan : The problem here is airlines can't make business decisions based on an assumption that the flight may not be full. If that is the case then you place
121 AmricanShamrok : UA and DL have 16 seats in BusinessFirst and BusinessElite on their longhaul 757s. Where did you get these figures from?
122 Jamie2k9 : Do you honestly believe that all 12 Business seats from SNN will be filled every day of the week on the B757. Y will nearly always be sold out and bu
123 tonystan : Iv also just been told that EI have launched a new onboard service in business class which requires plating up the hot meals before delivery to the se
124 AmricanShamrok : Absolutely not. I have, however seen EI flights go with near-100% loads in Business Class this summer as well as days when the J class load was nothi
125 Post contains links SURFER : Good news from UA for SNN for next year! http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/abo...ive_month_of_passenger_growth.aspx
126 EIBoston : Ah, that may be how I ended up on the top deck. I was most likely there about 4 hours before my flight and ended up getting a good seat!
127 Eagleboy : My apologies.....I looked through my notebook.....realised I got the 12/16 configs mixed up. AA are the only US carrier ex Ireland with 12 J on their
128 ClassicLover : Others have pointed it out, but I think 1 crew member for 12 pax isn't going to ruin anyone's day. I have seen BA use 1 crew member in Club Europe fo
129 OA260 : There is no doubt it can be done. All it needs is training and all crew to be on the same hymn sheet. There is no reason it cant be an efficient serv
130 Post contains links OA260 : Aer Lingus suing State for €61m Tuesday, October 15, 2013 Aer Lingus is suing the State for more than €61m over an "undifferentiated" travel tax.
131 EIBoston : Irish Budget - Air travel tax is gone from April 1. MOL will have one less thing to complain about.
132 Post contains links OA260 : Aer Arann has welcomed the abolition of the airline travel tax. Commercial Director Simon Fagan said the abolition "brings Ireland more into line with
133 tonystan : A club Europe slip and slop hot meal ( and let's face it this only occurs on a handful of European flights, most are just a cold salad) is very diffe
134 EI564 : If the operation is more profitable than flights from Dublin then I imagine that SNN is going to benefit from more flights. Hardly discrimination. An
135 tonystan : I don't think you understand at all what I said RE discrimination. We've already had people say how SNN doesn't need a proper business service etc. H
136 Eagleboy : It seems Aer Lingus already have......."too much"
137 Post contains links OA260 : Pre-clearance for all flights From 27 October 2013 all flights to the US pre-clear US Customs and Immigration in Terminal 2 (Dublin) or Shannon airpor
138 goldcrest : What about an agreement where by they operate with , let's say 4 crew, if the business class loads doesn't exceed 8 people. Anything over that, they w
139 Eagleboy : I would think that this is a logical compromise.....however neither side in EI is known for using logic.
140 EIBoston : I notice that EI have had one of their A321's on the ORK-LHR route the last 9-10 days. Is demand high or was it just an equipment swap that has not be
141 Post contains links shamrock350 : RYANAIR WILL GROW TRAFFIC AT IRISH AIRPORTS BY OVER 1M PASSENGERS P.A. FROM APRIL 2014 1,000 NEW TOURISM JOBS TO BE CREATED FROM APRIL AS RYANAIR RESP
142 Jamie2k9 : Have another look at the press release, 500,000 visitors to Ireland, we can guess what the other 500,000 will be and where they will be flying to.
143 AmricanShamrok : Any predictions on these new routes? I'd say KIR-MAN is a contender and I'd love to see SNN-GRO/BCN, BVA or CRL return. Fair play to FR for keeping t
144 Aer Lingus : Well the supposed 500,000 coming in have to fly back...
145 Post contains images OA260 : One would hope so This was an obvious reaction.
146 kaitak : Good to see FR stepping up to the mark, rather than moaning! With regard to EI's 757s, just caught this snippet on Skyliner this morning: Boeing 757 -
147 BrianDromey : Maybe on the surface. I wonder if EI would end up sending 5 cabin crew more often than not? Presumably they used to do this when Premier still existe
148 Post contains links BestWestern : Interesting article on Ryanair in the independent today http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ryanair-article-29668012.html ON 12 August 2013 we publis
149 Post contains links OA260 : More good news for SNN Shannon aviation company wins contract with Canadian airline A Clare-based aviation services company has secured a major contra
150 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : As expected, FR will launch new routes from SNN next spring. Negotiations are continuing: http://www.live95fm.ie/News-Sport/Article/?ItemID=16561
151 Post contains images aerdingus : Feeling a bit emotional after SK actually sent me an email announcing the retirement of their MD80s! "Our last MD-80 flight from Dublin will be the SK
152 Post contains images legacyins : Full page ad in the SF Chronicle. The fare is all inclusive.
153 BrianDromey : Nice ad. Interesting that they did not make mention of connecting opportunities onwards from DUB.
154 Post contains links and images AmricanShamrok : Flight EI123 was one of the first international arrivals to use ORD's new Runway 10C/28C yesterday: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/10/17/new-runway-
155 BrianDromey : DY's recent launch of LAX, FLL and JFK from LGW is interesting. Much is being made of the headline fare. In November I'm due to fly MAN-DUB-JFK and re
156 Post contains links OA260 : A bit boring and bland compared to the European Ads. Im sure something a bit more eye catching and exciting could have been done. This looks like an
157 dstc47 : It was , of course, the passengers who paid the travel tax, whether justified or not. I do hope that Aer Lingus do not even think of keeping it for t
158 Jamie2k9 : Yes we were charged but there is no way EI charged the full amount as tax, they absorbed some of it into the fares.
159 Post contains links OA260 : Passengers land at Dublin Airport with injuries sustained during flight Several passengers on a United Airlines carrier that landed in Dublin Airport
160 shamrock321 : Seems the return sector has been canceled, damage to the aircraft?
161 Post contains links clydenairways : Some of the comments here talk about hydraulic problems http://avherald.com/h?article=46a38136&opt=0
162 Post contains links OA260 : Exceptional and redundancy costs totalling €185m contributed to Dublin- based airline, Cityjet last year recording pre-tax losses of €208.9m. The
163 dstc47 : For those of us accustomed to go through Heathrow like a well trained rat running through a maze, the news that Heathrow T2 building is also on schedu
164 Post contains links dstc47 : The National Library has digitised the Aer Lingus - Irish Air Lines timetable for the winter of 1950/51. http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000274887#
165 Post contains images OA260 : That was a great read Glad they did that. A few things to notice how cigarettes were not a dirty word back then and also how long the EI/KL co operat
166 gkirk : EI Regional Newcastle-Dublin starts this week (sunday?)
167 shamrock350 : Thursday but it appears DUB-NCL is already sold out on that day, hopefully they've finally found the right sized aircraft for the route after failing
168 BestWestern : I flew this route on a Fokker 50 way back then! St. Pappin (EI-FKE), delivered in 1991, still flying for CityJet.
169 AmricanShamrok : Rumours around these parts that FR is to announce details of new routes tomorrow. It will be interesting to see what they come up with!
170 EI320 : It's also quite interesting to note that the EI 152/154/156 outdate Heathrow Airport itself, with most (if not all) types since the DC-3 having opera
171 SURFER : A joint announcement is to be made by Shannon airport and Ryanair at 1030 this morning.a significant increase in traffic is expected.these details can
172 Post contains links OA260 : RYANAIR LAUNCHES 8 NEW SHANNON ROUTES IN APRIL 2014 (BERLIN, FARO, FUERTEVENTURA, KRAKOW, MUNICH, NICE, PARIS & WARSAW) 300,000 NEW PASSENGERS P.A
173 shamrock604 : Good news indeed. Interestingly enough, they are staying away from UK routes, with just Faro already served from Shannon. Interesting to see if the E
174 Post contains links OA260 : Also linked to what I posted before with regards to all US flights to pre clear more staff at CBP . Boost to US staff at airport THE US Department of
175 BrianDromey : Hardly greatly exciting, most tried before and failed. Most available from Cork. Shame FR couldn't introduce destinations which are actually new to t
176 SURFER : It is greatly exciting news for the region hotels and tourism will do well out of this announcement and its a great boost for the airport and surround
177 Jamie2k9 : Did you expect anything else from FR
178 BrianDromey : I was hoping, but not expectant. As others have said, it is interesting that they have stayed away from UK routes, probably a realisation that the 73
179 EI564 : Even Berlin probably isn't great for inbound flows into Ireland. But still, great for people living in Clare/Limerick.
180 Post contains links tonystan : http://www.impact.ie/13/10/24/IMPACT...nnecessary-blow-to-loyal-staff.htm Well if what Impact claims is true it's just more rediculous carry on akin t
181 IRISH251 : This evening's SK2538 DUB-CPH marked the last appearance of an SAS MD-80 in Dublin. After pushback the aircraft paused for some photos to be taken, bu
182 Post contains links and images OA260 : Very sad. I have had nice flights on those on the DUB-CPH-DUB run and ATH-CPH-ATH. I will miss the little quotes on the sides also. Some pics I have
183 Post contains links and images IRISH251 : A few photos for the record: LN-RMM MD-82 by Irish251, on Flickr url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/24101413@N03/10463591995/][/url] LN-RMM MD-82 by Ir
184 Post contains links OA260 : Some not so good news : Aer Lingus cutting 87 cabin crew jobs at Shannon Aer Lingus has told unions it is axing 87 cabin crew jobs at Shannon because
185 AmricanShamrok : The schedule for FR's new SNN flights has been released. SNN-SXF 2x weekly (Mon, Fri), year-round SNN-FAO 3x weekly (Tue, Thu, Sat), seasonal SNN-FUE
186 Post contains links OA260 : Some not so good news at BHD. Hopefully now the majority of changes have been done and airlines settled in,runway idea is scrapped they can focus on w
187 Post contains links shamrock350 : Aer Lingus Regional to add 100,000 seats AER Lingus's regional division is to add 100,000 seats for the winter, under plans revealed yesterday. In a s
188 OA260 : I wondered why SEN did not get one before the ones I flew on were desperate! Nice to see more frequencies to CFU too.
189 Jamie2k9 : Aer Lingus may of increased some European routes but have cut some others as a result. Expect overall capacity will be flat.[Edited 2013-10-29 16:05:2
190 Post contains links shamrock350 : The IATA World Passenger Symposium was held in Dublin this week and naturally Aer Lingus was the host airline. There were a few interesting points fro
191 Post contains links OA260 : EI should clean up on the LGW route after March but I fear it will mean fares going up as Aer Lingus will no doubt take advantage of their monopoly.
192 Post contains links shamrock350 : With LHR going 4 daily there will still be plenty of capacity on LHR/LGW and they'll be effectively competing with themselves along with BA. Could st
193 Post contains links OA260 : I will be watching it as I use both frequently. LGW slightly handier for me these days but next few trips I have booked BA to LHR. ---- Aer Rianta in
194 AmricanShamrok : New routes from KIR, ORK and DUB still to be announced. Great to see such expansion here by FR. KIR have long been lobbying for the return of KIR-MAN
195 shamrock350 : It will be interesting to see what ORK gets to be honest, MOL said last week that Cork could be getting very little/if any new routes during the Twit
196 Post contains links and images shamrock350 : Happy Halloween from Aer Lingus. https://www.facebook.com/aerlingus
197 Post contains links OA260 : Some positive changes to the FR website ! Ryanair’s new website features: The removal of the Recaptcha for individual bookings (from 1 Nov). A 24 ho
198 shamrock350 : Long overdue! Already appears to be gone. I'll admit I used to check Ryanair fares very frequently but since the Recaptcha appeared I stopped complet
199 Jamie2k9 : Do they need to follow, if you make a mistake EI tend to change it free of charge (I have never being charged 4 times I made an error). EI don't offe
200 cipango : They tried NRN from KIR a few years ago as well as LPL but both ended after less than a year (I think). I would love a link from KIR-LGW.
201 teahan : MOL answered negatively to a question about new routes from KIR in his latest Twitter Q&A. NRN was running the same summer as a daily HHN flight.
202 Post contains images EIDL : Mueller really is bringing them back to the 1970s EI sold their first-gen booking system to a huge number of airlines from memory?
203 AmricanShamrok : Do you have a link or remember what was said?
204 Post contains links teahan : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...-Twitter-QandA-as-it-happened.html Q: Any chance of more routes for Kerry Airport? And any chance of bringing o
205 Post contains links clydenairways : Aer Lingus cabin crew vote overwhelmingly for strike action. http://www.irishtimes.com/news/irela...mingly-for-strike-action-1.1583343
206 OA260 : They never learn. Its becoming past a joke!! Ground the fleet sack everyone and bring in new outsourced crew on new contracts with lower cost base an
207 tonystan : Sack the management more like!
208 EIBoston : Don't think so - time for the Unions to go!(or get in the real world)
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